@@bloodymxx2199 wait till you see the video . I’m here now in Dortmund. Around 20K of us here and there are Dortmund fans amongst us. Amazing atmosphere 👊🏻
Few comments on this: I am sure that among the Dortmund supporters you definitely had some idiots misbehaving. However, I have no idea who thought it was a good idea to have the Dortmund fans marching under a bridge surrounded by Newcastle fans. Also I don’t know if English fans are aware of this, but filming the Ultras is a massive provocation and goes beyond your usual banter. Police in Germany is going through this footage to identify group structures and members of certain groups. This can lead to house raids, stadium bans etc. What is more, many of them have probably called in sick at work to make this trip and if your employer sees footage of you walking around in Newcastle there’s a good chance you lose your job. That’s why people got so mad. Still no need or justification for violence on both ends. Just hope for a great rematch in Dortmund with good atmosphere and loads of beers to be shared between all fans. From my personal experience most English fans are good sports and quite similar to us Germans.
I mean, as a general rule, if you're wagging off work to go watch the football, maybe it would be a good idea not to go on a massive march that will draw attention to you where you'll be filmed. Also, if you are 'forming into group structures' that cause the Police to raid houses, you're probably up to no good, and filming you is probably actually a good idea.
@@BaronSpamediNot really. Authorities in Germany are champing at the bit to suppress fans and impose collective punishments. One person does wrong, they go after the group. Just because they carry out house raids doesn't mean they're justified.
@@BaronSpamedi The fact that many football fans, especially ultras, refuse to conform to what society deems normal doesn't present an arrestable offense. These people have regular lives during the week too, on the weekend they choose to be "different".The ultra-movement is said to be the largest organized youth subculture in Germany and goes beyond just watching a game. Choreographies, fundraisers, banners, and social engagement are just parts of this. In Germany Police and FA do their best to suppress this, as it goes against the image of a polished, perfect, and most of all, markertable football.
By kettling the opposition fans in this manner, the police created a tribal mentality. If you treat people like animals, they behave like animals. The same goes for our fans
We pride ourselves on being the friendliest city/region in the country, yet here, when we have a golden opportunity to showcase that and welcome people from across the continent, whenever football is involved you can guarantee the idiots come out and try to stir things up. Treat others the way you’d like to be treated yourself, courtesy and respect cost nothing and are worth everything. 😕
I am not sure if you are serious but I don’t really think Dortmund fans or most away fans in general expect to receive a friendly welcome. It’s just at least to some point part of football that there are confrontations and that it’s not friendly.
Great video 👍We're becoming an embarrassment, our fans are known for our hospitality, I've travelled all over Europe without much incident now we have absolute bellEnds causing trouble that will result in our loyal fans facing a hostile environment when we go to Paris and Dortmund
Shut up Lol man city been to our stadium Dortmund And Milan this week did you see any mayhem on social media ? No because they are not pr*cks like newcastle fans that throw bottle at us and hide behind their woman's 🤐
Great Footage! As Dortmund Supporter I can't imagine such a march of away fans in our city centre. Dortmund has a massive supporting group. From my visits in the english stadiums (walsall, wolves and aston villa) I know the atmosphere. So I could imagine that there would be some clashes. But in Overall Dortmund Fans are very proud on their team and are not as aggressive as it seems in some scenes you caught. Please take the opportunity to come to Dortmund and get fascinated by the yellow wall and stadium. Stay safe and may we see us in the beautifulest stadium of the world😊
I don't understand why the Police allowed the PSG march to the ground or this one. This inevitably creates a confrontational situation. Away fans are free to circulate and drink in any part of the city and make their own way to the ground on a normal match day and in past European games there was none of this, that I can remember. We certainly had no organised "march" to the ground in Milan and I cannot see how they could do it in Paris or Dortmund. Or why anyone would want to be part of one.
Hi Chris. Ultras are organised groups that are highly motivated and have rudimentary rank structures. They’re almost like a military unit. It’s part of their tradition to march to the stadium, a bit like an army unit going into battle, hence the drums and coordinated chants. We have a different culture and therefore it’s necessary to provide a police escort to ensure the safety of all concerned. We can’t just refuse 2-3K (mainly men) to not congregate and march. That’s impossible
Once again, great video from Tyneside life. My opinion is this. I think the Police and planners haven’t handled this well at all. They’ve allowed PSG and Dortmund fans to over populate bars in the city centre/Big Market area, then they are faced with the difficulty of moving a large group through the most densely packed areas of the city, where emotions are high and the atmosphere tense, which inevitably leads to pockets of trouble. Why don’t they create an away fans zone around Times Square area. They can be contained and then moved up St James Boulevard as the match nears, avoiding the city centre and especially the Blackett Street/Percy street junction/bottle neck under the bridge. Poor planning and Policing.
Great idea, just impossible to organise, manage and execute. Ultras are from a different culture to us snd part of that is their march. If we attempt to stifle that, I can see only one likely outcome. All things considered I thought it went well except for a few minor incidents
Let the police organisers do exactly what they've done for years. Toon fans also travel in numbers. The problem is the knackers throwing missiles, get them named and shamed. Could cause serious injury get hit my a fast paced bottle
good video Eddie, ive seen Dortmund fans at the Bridge last season. Most are generally very friendly as ive worked on Dover- Calais ferries for 11 years and fans come to and from all the time.
Why spoil it for the fans Dortmund fans are amongst the best fans in Europe few toon fans spoiled the occasion .We get bad reputation and Toon fans will get targeted at our away games in Europe . Great video Eddie
Eddie I think the reason for extra police is when we played psg the machems were playing at home. Also more fans knew what to expect with this march creating a bigger interest and attracting the hooligan element.
Never understood these situations on European nights let's fans enjoy the city and walk to the stadium like any other football match (apart from the Derby) the police create these situations by turning up in riot gear??? Arranging road closures and assembly pointe and assembling sheep pens throughout the City they're utter morons.
It’s an organised march and tradition in countries where there are Ultras. For that reason it’s necessary to close roads and provide an escort for everyone’s safety. I felt the police presence was heavy handed but we don’t know what intelligence they had regarding potential threats etc
Interesting video. Maybe because the ground is in the city centre, there is more trouble in Newcastle than other grounds. See you next Wednesday at Old Trafford. Will Newcastle fans behave?
the throwing was equal... i got drenched in "beer" lol.... thankfully it wasnt in its glass container... the 'eldon gaunlet' as im now calling it, was bloody amazing. bit scary though, singing and smoke and pure electricity in the air.... you cant pay for that
I was there from the start for the PSG and Dortmund marches and followed them to the end. I found that Newcastle fans usually threw first and the opposing fans retaliated. Baring in mind that the Ultras are being heavily filmed too. A minority of Newcastle fans and putting the rest of us at risk when we travel to PSG and Dortmund
@@TynesideLife i was there all day as well Eddie mate... spoke to a few canny Germans, , i dont doubt some local chavvy knackers started throwing stuff first... i went undercover and marched with the Germans for a bit... theure just like us to be honest... not angry like some of those psg fans
@@TynesideLife i highly advise doing it... even if you cant record any footage youll have had an experience... just hoy a wig on so they dont recognise you lol
Our fans letting themselves down throwing things, do these idiots not realise that some of our fans including women and children will be traveling abroad for the return fixtures. Save your support for inside the ground which was unfortunately poor last night.
Another great video, Eddy, catching all the atmosphere as you usually do. Idiots on both sides, unfortunately, but pleasing to see it never turned into a battle. Hopefully in the return game our fans behave themselves and show us in a very positive light.
@@callumkent7155All they do is march when we go abroad we have the courage to go around in smaller groups, we go in all the bars and do our own thing.
@@Paul-eb4jpwhy are you talking shit? Never been abroad as it seems. English fans also meet at pubs and march together. And the get their heads kicked in.
Great video mate, I was standing outside the soho bar just watching these come past, just enjoying the moment, one of the cowards threw a large stone the size of an apple at me full pelt, luckily it grazed my ear but could have been much worse, there were kids stood who were only spared due to the the lack of aim on these Germans, a bit ironic really considering they had a serious lack of aim in 1939-45. Find it really frustrating that our police are more interested in filming and arresting our fans than turning around and seeing what’s actually going on behind them. It’s as if the dortmund fans could do anything without any sort of intervention by police, however if you so much as farted in the direction of the Germans you’d have a police camera pushed in your face. pathetic!!
Being in amongst it I can say that it was our fans that started the missile throwing the whole way up. I was nearly hit by a bottle from one of their fans but it was in retaliation to an idiot behind me who threw one.
@@Handeln557 no matter how much you are provoked you don’t throw missiles at kids! The size of the rocks you lot were throwing would have killed somebody, Shameful!!
Loved all those sroats thinking they where dead ard ,,,,, plastic toon fans,,,,, ultras are so organised if they wanted a rumble believe me the law wouldn't know what to do 😅
Like going back in time to the mid 80's like the Geordies have never seen a European before pretty pathetic response to people visiting your City for a football game
Fans are separated more strictly here, there is no chance you have hundreds of drunk agressive home fans 3 meter away from the away ultras on their way to the stadium. Looks like it could have easily escalated a lot more, and as fun as it is to give a bit of banter as a normal person to the away team, especially when it's BVB, I personally wouldn't want to fight the first few rows of Dortmund fans where most of them do kickboxing and shit specifically for these occasions.@@TynesideLife
@@nikinhosvr4861 it’s a difficult situation as St James’ Park is in the city centre, so it’s impossible to separate the fans if Ultras want to do their March. That’s why there was such a heavy police presence.
@0;48ish The dibble comes out with "It's for your own safety" That is the alibi of the tyrant. I really enjoy your videos pal, ever since I saw the first one about the 2 lads pulled by GMP dibble at The Etihad.
Eddie I’ve got a feeling Newcastle will get something over there. Dortmund set up well and didn’t do much else. Hopefully Eddie Howe can get organised for them. I think Borrusia Dortmund and their stadium is one if not the greatest in Europe as a Rangers fan we beat them spectacularly on our way to Europa final but minus a lot of their fans due to the covid bollocks and minus Elling Halland but with Jude Bellingham. Onwards and upwards Eddie
Oi oi eddy. We were parked right back down railway street the police wouldnt let us near and we couldnt park up there so we just seen the arse end of the zi jermanz , up at Greys monument there.canny turnout wannit Cheers eddy crackin stuff marra 👍🏴🏳️🏴🏳️🏴🏳️
EEEE AYE EEEE AYE EEEE AYE OHH........EEEE AYE EEEE AYE EEEE AYE OHH.........UP THE PREMIER LEAUGE WE GO....... THOSE POOR DORTMUND FANS MUST HAVE BEEN TERRIFIED
Whats the common theme here . Trouble last night ,psg game and with leeds and villa . Its Newcastle fans . England fans will get it in Germany next summer
Pushing you! Do they know who you are!!! Joking aside think the police may have had a wake up call after PSG so going to police Champions league matches at home a bit more aggressively given the number of away fans and how organised they are
Not a women in sight , it’s all about hooligans been able to have a free walk through our streets 🇬🇧 do this outside the uk and were classed as a racist nation
Eddie, do you know what the policy is on drums in the Stadium - can they be banned, if not then we should take them to their place and give them headaches. I still have headache now from last night.
CCTV , organised coaches , police escorts , designated safe pubs , marching in there thousands to the stadiums 😂 give me the old days when a good crew had to fight and negotiate the hostile route from the station to the pubs , enemy territory , to the away end 😂
You’ve got this the wrong way around Kev. The police aren’t stopping them from going where they want, they’re providing an escort for their traditional march to the stadium. To do this there is advanced planning and roads are closed to facilitate it. The fact that we have a city centre stadium means the ultras are marching 1/2 mile through our city centre too. Having an organised and policed march is s lot safer than the alternative…
@@TynesideLife just the look on their faces … like why has this to be so hostile. Lived in Dortmund, now 1km away from Union Berlin stadium. Some fan groups don‘t even being separated because in the end there will always be a group that will make trouble anyway, this are maybe 5%.
Why did our people allow drums and megaphones into the stadium?? It ruined the atmosphere and the monotonous one chant per half by their fans was effective in quieting our lot down. Wor flags have done their bit but it’s time for the supporters to organize the singing sections better as English fans are being outdone I’m afraid
Hi Alan, we can’t stop them bringing a drum in. It’s not a prohibited article. It annoying for opposing fans but that’s the point. It destroyed our atmosphere and we were quiet for most of the game and that gives their team an advantage. I have to say, being up close to them twice now, I’m very impressed! They’re almost like a military unit going into battle. Highly motivated snd well organised, something I think we could learn from. In my opinion 😃
Not sure why English clubs don’t learn from these fans? Almost every European team have these fans. They’re well organised, everyone sings and claps in unison, it’s like a well organised machine. I personally love the drum, has a gearing for battle feel, and helps synchronise the singing, doesn’t have to drum incessantly but initiates the singing. English fans seem disorganised and only sing if they’re winning
It will either have been agreed to be taken in via a fan liason pre-game, or they just take them in with force. The police/club will know its better to allow it than cause a provocation.
@@TynesideLife blokes wearing balaclavas and ski masks throwing missiles, a woman got punched off 1 of them. All the dortmund fans we met pre match were great lads
When the away fans have the procession, it seems like a statement that they are marching into enemy territory, I get that it's their fan culture, but not ours so I also get why home fans feel provoked. I don't condone any violence by the way. I just don't think the away supporters should be allowed to do this, they are visiting this country and should be mindful of how our football fan culture is.
I disagree Graham, unless you expect Newcastle fans to be respectful of the cultures in other countries? We don’t care if we invade the canal area of Milan for example, drink ourselves stupid, leave rubbish everywhere, rock cars and vans etc? I think we should respect their ultra culture and not throw missiles at them like cowards. It shames us
I do expect, or hope, maybe, that any away fans are respectful to the culture they visit . I am not condoning the missile throwing at all and it is shameful. @@TynesideLife
@@TynesideLife in my remark below they mass up in numbers so they feel big but safe then when we go there they attack peripheral pubs where they out number you and cause damage don't give them the coverage there nothing but tossers also the police shouldn't let them mass like that
There actually louder than Newcastle fans outside and inside the ground . There's allways the idiot throwing a bottle amazing how the police control the masses
Once again Newcastle police screwed up ,not use too handling fans,,,look at faces of most of Dortmund fans ,you could see wtf is going on.... Great video but best Newcastle are out of europe soon as possible because police and fans cannot handle it....... Europe is a fun thing FC Copenhagen were a pleasure at Old Trafford on tuesday and will be friends for ever more...Geordie clowns both police and supporters YOU LOT NEED TOO GROW UP
Terrible location for a football stadium in a city centre. I live in Birmingham and our 3 main teams WBA Villa and Birmingham are miles from the city centre. Even though we still have problems its easier for the police to handle
Please newcastle fans don't let some idiots from your fanbase ruined your reputation I spent a great moment your atmosphere is fantastic but you got some serious trouble makers that shouldn't be associated with you . Anyway your city is great, just probably need to work on the food taste 😂😂 but nice and peaceful environment in general 😅🫶🏿 From a Psg fan ❤️💙
