Incase you guys are wondering why your favorite Doberman is not on the list is because the list is about Great champion males and Top producers that produce top Champions as well
-Zac Ginga house- average dog, a little bit too long, bad back angulation -eBay del tibur- horrible in movement, too big, mastiff like -Quiz Schwarze kraft- same as ebay, but even more extreme. I know a situation where Rada Istvan from perla era kennel was judging and asked “what is this” when he saw quiz. -Colt di perlanera- bad ear positioning, head like mastiff, too much skin on neck, horrible back angulation, too open, dog is too tall, around 76cm - Hazard do altobello- probably the least deserving to be in the list, divergent head, yellow eye, soft back, bad paws, they are literally flat instead of being cat like, too long... Here is a few better options: -Legend goes on Astor - Yanick dell colle Della Guardia - asterix del Nasi
If you think these dogs are bad or mastiff like - wait until 4 years time when they add PoR Chongar, Giddy Blossom Spasen and Hunter Vital Screen into the list 🤣😁
barbelljoe A lot of breeders don’t have an eye for standard. Breed is evolving a little bit, but you cannot breed heavy type of dogs like eBay, quiz... the worst thing is that there are breeders that are using them as studs. I cannot believe.
@@aleksandarsimovic6868 Hunter Vital seems to be sireing a tonne of litters this year and the pups all look just like him - with scowling eye brows, large heavy ears and mastiff-like jowls. Definitely a badly conforming dobermann.
@@aleksandarsimovic6868 It's pretty bad. There is a pup for sale who has PoR Sidor in his line FIVE TIMEs - including grandfather - both great grandfathers and great-great grandfather. I was interested in the pup until I looked at the pedigree. He is over 50% Sidor DNA! www.dobermann-brat.ru/dogs1.php3?id=3504&lang=eng
Why are the handlers so rough with these beautiful Dobermans? Looks like they are being strangled with those chains around their necks pulled so tightly. Beautiful dogs, though.
Regardless if we are talking best dogs or best producers, half of the dogs on the list shouldn`t even be close to the top 10 list. I agree for other half :)
Hello Natalia, Thor is great ! I thought about putting Thor on this list as number 10 but I figured Zac's reproduction ability is greater than Thor's. This list is based on personal opinion. Btw I really like your breeding. Oksamit is one of the all time greats for me !
@@EuropeanDoberman Thanks! But Thor is not my breeding :) I just want to be objective :) Also agree that Asterix was forgotten. Clot is very good boy but he's too young to say about him " still alive", much health to him
deGrandeVinko I as said I really liked your breeding it was in general. I know Thor is not breeding his mom is :) So you would remove Colt and who from to list to add Thor and Asterix 🙂
Toscano. Son of Urbano del Diamante is From Italy. Urbano was world champ. My fem has Urbano in her pedigree along with Maxim de Altobelo, Gino Gomez, Nitro, Oksamit DeGrande Vinko and more
Would have liked to know which have WORKING TITLES NOT ONLY SHOW… And get a detailed working & show record of the pedigrees… That would be of more help for those of us into this breed… Tx. Mike.
@@EuropeanDoberman in fact not rlly my first dog and we did somes misstake, we failed the ears and he got some grey hair because we forced to teach him bein alone :(
You can eventually speak about most popular males in Europe but surely not best producteurs in the world. In many countries most of them are even completly unknown. Europe is not the world, there are dogs overseas.
Contact steve at serria doberman farm n memphis Tenn or Ronnie n Alamo Tenn sunnyhills doberman farm. All european quality dogs u wont b disappointed. Steve owns rights 2 the DeGrande Vinko line n USA beautiful healthy wonderful tempermant dogs. Ive owned several of there's Great honest peope 2 deal with also
LOL - But you do believe only yourselves - There are many other dogs which are much better. Than dogs, which you have to hold the tail up, because they have no drive ;-)
@@magneabrahamsen8458 Del Nasi and all of the breeding lines you are talking about, are not really best Dobermann. An much inbreeding procedure. Only business fot the Del Nasi and Pride of Russia seller.
This list is just not about being a good Kadir. It is also about reproductivity ability . Dont get my words wrong Dali is a great dog but his progenies are really superstars, Siegers or World winners? There are only Festus and Fahir. Festus gets no big rewards in the rings and Fahir even being a jugend sieger gets no litter requests. 😉
@@anas.1037 Simon usually breeds Asterix with Eutay's daughters and Eutay with Asterix's daughters. So there wouldn't be much diffence. What you have to is choosing a good qualty puppy. Because even Eutay or Asterix produces bad puppies.
@@anas.1037 Right now Eutay is in the lead but he has so much more progeny. Check Ghost Gamon v. Ashanti, Nikita del Nasi, Victor del Nasi, Tahi-Reme Chico.
I really like him Scarlett. In fact I really thought about if I should put him on the list. It is just he hasn't produced a really big name yet but It doesn't mean he won't
European Doberman Yeah, I’m getting a pup from Sant Kreal and I absolutely love his pedigree! The sire is Amber Amulet and he has SK Zeus, Oscar Z Padoku, Oksamit de Grande Vinko, and Urbano del Diamanté Nero in his lineage. Got some awesome dames in there as well! Can’t wait to get that baby already
@@jettechdonatkins Ascania I think are a Euro working line kennel so I assume she knows something about the breed. Maybe she doesn't like the showlines.
Hi, if possible please do make a video on best females as well... We love to see these beautiful dogs and i plan to get one soon as well, but I am from India and i guess it is really difficult to import one here....
Yes transport fee would cost too much. I would suggest some Chinese breeders. They bought some serious dogs last year. And yes I will make a video for females as well.
Haha i am sure the World is going to stay away from China for a while, and it is not about transportation cost but India doesn't allow import of dogs....
That arent exposition dogs they are guard dogs you have to selected to what they are otherwise the breed would broke on the time lot of people mix then with galgos to take there capabilities and temperament braking them functionality but i say their body anatomy is not correct that is like a barrel barril but i like them mouth they face look like a doberman not crosses like in amarican
Erm, no. Hunter is just big with a large head and chest and gets lots of photo angles to make him look like a great dane. That's not what a dobermann is supposed to be and he won't win any major competitions like IDC. He looks unhealthy and a dobermann should not weigh more than 45kg unless you want joint and heart problems. Be surprised if he lives longer than Sidor. Also the original doberman was a tax collectors dog and should be able to chase somebody down.
