Couple nitpicks: Sucrose National can vape XQs E for some really insane frontloaded damage by just changing the rotation to XQ Qn1 > Bennett Qn1E > Xiangling n1E > Sucrose n1E > Xiangling Qn1 > XQ E(E if sac) > normal attacks and Bennett Es for energy, you can also normal attack with sucrose in AoE (hydro swirl for AoE vapes) Reverse Melt can always melt Bennett Q at the start of the rotation, Kaeya should always QE instead of EQ because he can't really pre-funnel, also Amenoma is generally better than Blackcliff because it actually has a passive and scales with refines the rest if fine, hyperbloom is really hard to mess up
fr i was afraid she wouldn't heal enough because od low scaling so i slapped 40k hp on her and let me tell you, she heals me full hp with her E, and her E cooldown is very short, moreover her burst heals an entire party's HP in 3-4 seconds!!
problem is that getting em mainstats for artificats is almost as hard as getting a decent crit ratio lmao. I have been farming vv for the past month and I've gotten only 2 em pieces (sands and circlet ). But reaching max potential is easier because substats don't really matter ( except the flower and feather ig ) .
Oh, that's strange, I only needed 2 weeks to get Raiden shogun almost full EM gilded dreams. Kuki also only needed 2 weeks to get almost full EM flower of lost paradise. It's already 3 months yet my Raiden, xingqiu and XiangLing still have crap Emblem artifacts. So hard to get crit stats on emblem artifacts. I find farming is super easy because you only need main stat as EM. Emblem is a pain since u need correct main stat AND sub stat.
@@NPC5273 sadly for me, 3 and half months farming Emblem artifacts, still can't get good artifacts for my Raiden shogun, xingqiu and XiangLing. 2 weeks - got full set gilded dream EM set for Kuki. 2 weeks - got full set flower of lost paradise EM set for Raiden shogun.
5:04 I really recommend Amenoma sword. I'm currently using Amenoma R4 on Kaeya. As long as you cast skill at least twice before Burst, he can Burst consistently. Even if he doesn't catch much particles and only have 150% ER. Amenoma Energy refund passive is really good for any character that can use skill frequently. Also, the fact that you can have a stack without the need for hitting enemy (unlike Kitain Spear or Katsuragikiri Claymore).
Both with at c6 and r5 sac weapons, collei applies 13 total (5 from 2 e’s and 3 from burst) dmc applies 8 with their 2 e’s and 6 from q So collei does more :D
@@jihad1251 collei has icd every 2.5 secs which is not good for creating more seeds, DMC dendro apps has standard icd of 2.5 secs/3 hit which is far more consistent than Collei, resulting in more seeds created, we know more seed = more dps in hyperbloom
New sub! You're very underrated. The most quick and effective explanations with nothing unnecessary, you helped me so much. As someone who is Ar 56 and couldn't fight any of my world bosses and couldn't get past floor 4 (not cause I wasn't strong enough, I just focused on 1 team) I can proudly say that I was able to clear abyss for the first time! :) Keep up the great work!
In sucrose national, you can also vape xingqiu E after the double swirl which can hit around 120k👍. This team might be one of the strongest team even if comparing with the 5* team
Absolutely best guide for now. You don't need anything else than these characters build so just pull and build the ones you want after building these 4 stars
Excellent showcase. I think a lot of people chase the new shiny 5* characters and weapons (which to be fair, you're sort of supposed to). But this showcase is just a great example of how building the 4* characters that are easy to get can lead to effective teams. Characters like Kaeya and Rosaria are two of the best characters in the game if used and built well, but are often overlooked because Ganyu and Ayaka are clearly better, but not the only choice. Similarly Lisa is overlooked because of Shogun. No one seriously thinks Lisa is better than Shogun, but Lisa is perfectly fine. And lastly, the OG 4* like Xiangling, Qingqiu, Bennett, Sucrose and Fischl are so good they still show up in the Abyss regularly.
Very well done video! I've been playing since Xiao first release in 2021 and I've spent about $600 on the game as a casual player. I kind of feel guilty about it but I also put over 500 hundred hours into the game so I know I'll get my money's worth out of this game (not planning to spend anymore). Long winded way of saying I wish these kinds of guides or even Dendro reactions existed when I started the game. It was pretty much a given you needed a hyper invested 5 star DPS to clear Abyss unless you built a strong National team. I'm aiming to build every character eventually so will come back to these guides when I'm ready to work on these teams! Keep up the great work
this type of video waiting for .....so unique video because not everyone have 5 star character like me ....am in AR60 still i have one 5 star chracter dehya dehya really sucks
Great video. The only thing I have to say is that I don’t think Lisa needs to use her burst at all so she doesn’t need the ER in her hyperbloom team. Team’s damage here comes mostly from hyperbloom, which ignores defence like every other transformative reaction, thus the burst’s def shred doesn’t matter. The only benefit from the burst is more electro application to reliably trigger hyperblooms, but Lisa’s NA and tap skill trigger most seeds without many problems, I also like to wave in every now and then some CAs to guarantee to not waste any seeds on the ground, how often depends on how much the enemy is moving and how far the seeds spawn, usually I do something like 2NA tap-E 2NA tap-E CA and it feels pretty nice. This way you don’t have to waste time charging her burst with her hold E and you can free up space for more EM, which is too valuable in this team. Also, her burst honestly kinda sucks at targeting the seeds anyway, at least in my experience, it’s not reliable enough to build ER just for that, it may probably improve with C4 but for most players it’s hard to get there, I’m still at C2. TL;DR Building ER in Lisa hyperbloom isn’t worth it imo, just go full EM. That said, nice video 💪
She might be in Ayaka’s banner, which is a blessing since she is a really strong and F2P friendly cryo carry. If I were you I would save my primos for that banner, but see first if you like her of course.
Try hyperbloom. It's easy to play and build. ( No need good playing skill). I kept dying when I was using sucrose national and Morgana freeze team. Barely cleared 12th floor with 0 star. Someone told me to use hyperbloom. 2 weeks later, got my first 36 star. Since Jan 16 this year, all 36 star. Hyperbloom really really OP!
@@VrtielA6300 team 1( AOE team) is Dendro MC high ER spec, Kokomi ( onfield dendro core creator), Raiden shogun, yaoyao ( I only use Yao Yao E when dendro MC burst on CD). Team 2 ( boss team) ZhongLi, Nahida ( onfield dendro core creator) Xingqiu, Kuki
@@VrtielA6300 my AR 35 second account had trouble doing archon quest with my Noelle, Barbara, Kaeya and Fischl. I got so fed up since I keep dying Vs the Abyss Lector and since it's archon quest, I can't cheat using my main account to help. I ran all the way to sumeru to make MC become dendro. ( I don't have collei or yaoyao so only had Dendro MC) I farm 4pc deepwood ( did not bother to get gilded dream set). 1 shot abyss lector. The reason, Noelle, kaeya , fischl damage is around 200-300 per hit. 1 hyperbloom was 3k damage! ( So even though fischl is bad at triggering hyperbloom). A few hyperbloom, broke the abyss lector shield and straight away kill it. Hyperbloom at low level AR is insane!
Is 4pc gilded really that much better than a 2pc/2pc? It only has max 70em more and has a short uptime and a cooldown. And building a split set is much easier than farming 3 EM main stats for just one set.
No, 4pc GD and Paradise Lost are just slightly better than 2pc + 2pc EM. If you already have two Wanderer EM pieces, just farm two GD or Paradise Lost pieces and you're good.
Eh, u only need 2pc from either sand, goblet or circlet. The last piece can be from any artifact set. But I guess if u are already doing 30k per hyperbloom, don't need to bother getting 4pc. I was desperate last time since I barely 36 star abyss. Back then my hyperbloom was 28k Now that my hyperbloom is 34k, I finally cleared 12th floor with 30 to 60 seconds spare. It use to be only 0 to 10 second spare.
yes.. because the 4pc gives massive EM boost for different elements on the team.. If you dont have 4pc Gilded, 2pc 2pc is still an ok replacement, but dont get your hopes too high because the damage will be lower
The 4pc effect is really good ngl, since you don’t need perfect artifacts but just a couple of EM mainstats and the domain is so resin efficient it’s really worth it. I think it might be ok to ignore Gilded only if you have Wanderer’s Troupe flower and feather with insane EM rolls (100-120 EM EACH), but even then you still want to farm the Gilded domain for Deepwood so… yea, just farm Gilded
@@xanthee_imr I agree with you bro. My hyperbloom damage: 2pc gilded, 2pc wanderer 27,723 4pc gilded ( for first few hyperbloom 33,899), later 32,xxx after 8 seconds. 4pc flower: 1st hyperbloom 34,xxx 2nd onward hyperbloom 35,xxx ( The damage increased from 2pc/2pc to 4pc gilded is significant and we only use a bit of resin. ) Best part, both of my gilded and flower set only have ONE gold EM main stat artifact. The other is a purple. The third piece is from other set. I love how I don't need to waste time farming 2 piece of EM main stat for Sand/Goblet/Circlet. (Note: This damage is against the ruin graders.)
I gotta ask, what constellation is each character at? I can see your Sucrose isn't C6 which is what got me curious, because every "4-star" showcase tends to use C6 Sucrose for the elemental damage buff which does inflate numbers a bit. I also just naturally assume everyone has a C4 Xiangling and C6 Xingqiu as well, which sucks because to me it feels like those 2 characters are very gimped at lower constellations.
@@fredxu99 Yes tbh constellations are very good on xingqiu, sucrose, xiangling and fischl but their base kit is so good that you don't need them. And sucrose C6 is like gambling, you never know when it's going to infuse with the correct element (if any haha)
Quick question, when you say that Kuki and Raiden are better usually better for hyperbloom do you mean that they are usually better than Lisa but for that specific team Lisa is better, or that Raiden and Kuki would work better in that team? If it's the latter, than what artifact set should I use for Raiden?
some of these are quite interesting though not fully useable on my alt account (0 wishes ever, no noelle) which needs the help sometimes. team 3 reverse melt will be interesting in the future when i get a bennett. perhaps aloy over rosaria in this case.
I took a long break from the game so I love to see this. Especially after getting Dehya today lol Unfortunately I don't have Yaoyao. Can she be replaced with Collei?
Hello, this sounds dumb but how do you immediately swap to a character then burst like right away? Or you just do it the normal way and it just seems fast bc you are on good ping and I'm playing on sh8 ping? There's a feature in mobile when their burst is active, you just press the burst button next to them and then you can burst right away when they get swapped. I don't know if there's something like that on PC
I think it's the ping. Whenever I get lag spike where my ping jump from80 to 200ms, I can't seem to swap character properly. Sometime I don't swap. I use Kokomi jellyfish, then swap to Kuki, then back to Kokomi. But when lag spike, I did not swap to Kuki! So maybe it's your latency?
how do you rate Iron Sting on Kaeya? Depending on luck, some may have it at R5 even faster than Lion's roar. And what about Chongyun replacing Rosa in reverse melt team? The double burst from Bennett Chongyun can deal great dmg in seconds, but you need to level up Kaeya's NA talent since he will be the the main cryo dmg dealer after that.
Genshin are lucky coz the base stats aren't that different between 4 and 5 star unlike Warframe where you're forced to wait/farm for Primes rather than the base Warframes
Well explained video for each team but I have the rng problem. I'm farming emblem but pieces just don't want to drop... I exchange those with bad stats for thunderfury for my keqing but I got bad rolls. Took me so many artifacts wasted for 2 pieces with good stats that ended up bad as well... Can you make a video about artifact stats, specially for those who just lved 45 AR and are willing to start abyss. Cuz I aim for decent stats before starting abyss at all. I've always being slower than the majority of ppl so maybe i'm doing something wrong for sure u.u
What characters are you using with Keqing? I don't see anything wrong with what you're doing cuz there is no trick to improving your artifact RNG. My best advice for leveling up artifact when you're AR 45 is DON'T level up your artifacts to 20 unless they have REALLY GOOD stats. Leveling up from 16 to 20 is almost as expensive as 0 to 16. If you're running out of artifact fodder, you might want to consider doing artifact route during your free-time. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-39SWbBnCl4g.html Btw when I reached AR 45 on my alt account, I focused on getting talent level 8, level 80 characters and level 90 weapons before I even started farming artifacts.
@@f2pkeqing Fischl, Collei (waiting on Venti's bow for her) and Sayu. I have Yaoyao too but she increases dendro Dmg to the party or to the other dendro character so I didn't change her with Collei to put Sucrose instead of Sayu + i had both Sayu and Collei lved up already so.. Ye I do that too. I lv up artifact to a certain lv, depending on what it lvs it up into. If it's trash i stop and use that one to lv up the next one i find. Keqing has Lion's Roar r2 (i can make 3 iron stings if I want to but i keep the billets just in case), 9/7/9 (waiting on wolf's boss material) but either way, i did lved up my talents and weapons. If i don't do weekly bosses i use resins on condensed, characters i will use (kuki, ayato, for 2nd team, dendro mc and have no clue about the 4th slot), their talents cuz weapons are ready. Only dendro Mc is weaponless. Fav sword just doesn't want to drop '^^
@@nephtys6090 Yeah, that looks good. Just stick with Lion's Roar on Keqing cuz its better than Iron Sting. Your next goal should be getting Keqing, Kuki and Fischl to Level 90 if you haven't already. Since you have Yaoyao, you can use her as fourth slot on your second team for Dendro resonance and generate Dendro energy particle for DMC. You can use Sumeru craftable sword or Skyrider Sword on DMC in the meantime and 2pc Emblem piece for extra ER on DMC.
@@f2pkeqing Fischl just needs artifacts. She's 9/9/9 and with stringless r1. Kuki is lv 80 with takents lv 7 if I recall (exept aa) About Yaoyao, if Dmc will have 2 and 2, she'll have 4x instructor or 4x deepwood. I found some pieces with HP and ER of instructor. Is it ok as set? If only RNG would help me some more...'^^ Ty for your tips btw. I'll put them to good use :)
Team 3 is the closes to what I have since the only character I don't have here is only Bennett... the rest, I don't have 2 or more characters... so for team 3 is it possible to swap Bennett with yoimiya/diluc/yanfei? those are the only pyro characters I have
Its possible but any of them will be a huge downgrade to Bennett. So, you should save up your starglitter cuz Bennett will appear on Paimon's Shop during May.
Unless you have Kuki or Raiden, absolutely yes. Btw Electro Traveler can work too (using the burst) even though you have less uptime on the electro application
Gilded dreams is the best, though if you don't have a full set full EM VV is alright too, since most people already have that build for her. But basically, anything with EM works
After all... I always thought of the game is never meant to be easy at all despite of difficulty spike, artifacts grinding, trashed characters. Discouragement does the matters a lot. I just can't let everyone trashing them. It's only for me of I would use more than everyone, including all of those doomposters (Especially the Death Threat one) still stand and spreading falsehood everywhere. Other games that clashing this game is dead, but this game still having most bad communities despite of META is everything.
raiden hyperbloom (dmc, barbara, em lvl90 raiden, flex slot, maybe sucrose or yaoyao) on side 1, naxiaonal (bennett xiangling xingqiu plus favonius xiao) on side 2
You could try 1st-Ei (lvl90 full em), XQ, yaoyao, dmc (4p deepwood) and 2nd-Xiao, sucrose (battery), benny, flex slot or any shield character. For raiden hyperbloom any decent artifact is enough but you might need to invest on xiao team a lil bit
