Joe- WOW! I cannot thank you enough. This was so thorough and thoughtful of you. So many things I have not considered. I appreciate this very much. Before this, I was leaning towards a skid steer but had some doubts, but the tractor with PTO is really the way to go. That new Branson with a CAB for slightly more than my budget may be the way to go. I’m going to watch your video again with Jen and put some more thought into this. I cannot thank you enough Joe.
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WOW!!! Thank you for explaining the difference and what you suggested and why, I spent 25 years in the Army, now I am going to try my hand at a small homestead of 10 acres! I had no idea where to start for tractors, horse power etc, You provided me with more than just a base line. Thank you again!
Another great video. You left off one important variable -safety. CTL 10 excavator 8, tractor 6. I agree with you assessment on power-anything less than 50 HP is a waste of time I had a 30 HP John Deere compact tractor and moved to a bobcat t-190 and never looked back. I feel much safer in the bobcat and rarely worry about tipping. I also found renting additional attachments easier with the bobcat The ctl is more expensive; however I justified the expense primarily due to safety and ease of renting attachments Mr Kapper is correct. Always buy a tractor with greater than 50 hp. Any thing smaller you wii regret. Go big or go home!!
Kapper I agree 100% with you, the only thing I would add is hydraulic down pressure to the 3 point, this allows you to hold grade while cutting with a rear blade or box blade.
For a homesteader I agree that the utility loader tractor with 3 point hitch and pto is the first piece of equipment to buy. If your handy wrenching and understand machinery, used will get you started at the least up front cost but repairs are expensive and when the hay has to be cut and bailed you don't have days to wait for parts to arrive. That said, what you intend to do with the farmstead is just as important. How are you going to accomplish your primary income stream. Growing you own produce and raising protein on a small scale will help make the dollars go further. Trying to support yourself on the homestead is different and you need to sit down and work a plan to accomplish your goal. A full time job with benefits, goes a long way to help set up infrastructure on the homestead, as you develop your skills. Best of luck to anyone thinking about this lifestyle.
I don’t know what the delivery charge might be, but for Homestead How take a look at LSETractor Sales in Springfield, TN. LSE sells Kioti tractors packages called “pick-five”. The packages include the tractor, trailer, plus 5 implements of your choice from a list of compatible implements that fit the tractor of your choice. Their pricing is extremely aggressive and I believe that most of the implements are Titan brand made in the USA. LSE is the top selling Kioti tractor dealer in the U.S. and Kioti includes a 2 year bumper to bumper warranty on the tractor and 5 years (or maybe its 6 years?) on the engine and drive train. I don’t own a Kioti or work for them or LSE, but I’ve heard a lot of good things about them. Kioti sales are skyrocketing in the U.S. because their price points are excellent in comparison to their competitors and apparently they are exceptional quality machines. Just an option to check out, you never know…
Good info, thanks for the heads up for Homestead How. Most Korean made lines are very good quality, they have been making machines longer than we have. Have a good one, thanks.
All great recommendations, Kap. After Homestead How weighs these options, they can make a decision. If they can swing it, they should get the new Branson (financed) and maybe they can purchase a few implements in a bundle/package. They'll be surprised how much cheaper it will be than purchasing implements piece-by-piece. A new first-time landowner can use this video as a benchmark to help determine what's best for them. Your video clips reinforced every bullet on your list which was great. Okay, brother, time for me to get some work done. Big thumbs-up 👍!
Excavator is nice but you cant farm with it.... He needs a good 40 HP tractor with front end loader with bucket. Add in a few implements like, bush hog, disc, tiller, blade or box blade, post hole digger and possibly grapple for the front end loader and a set of forks. That is one great start and will do for just 20 acres.
The tractor is good at the specific things but a skid steer will do anything they could ever think of. If the budget allows, there’s an attachment for it.
thanks kap, been meaning to reach out to update, got our new place, 35 acres, with spring coming here in kentucky been looking at our first machine purchase but we're at half that budget
John Deere 110 for the win! Backhoe, front end loader, 3 point hitch and pto. They can be hard to find but they are great little machines. Check out some of Dirt Perfects older videos, he had one.
you put some thought into your answers and I have to agree with everything you said. not one machine will do everything, but you can get away with one machine doing most of what you want.
Great advice Kapper. I'm in full agreement with ya....TRACTOR POWER!! I can't even imagine trying to do the things on my property without my 90hp tractor. You're also right about the horsepower--I wish I had a 110hp tractor. smh
Thanks man, even us different color machine guys can agree :) Yeah, pretty much hands down with a tractor to begin with. Have a good one man. Wet and rainy here....
Good review Kapper 👍 one point I disagree with is traction, if the top 2 or 3 inches of soil is greasy or muddy rubber track machines are way behind a 4wd tractor with ag tyres in my opinion 💪👍👍
Well, I've had better luck with the track machines in the same slick clay around here. They just seem to do OK. But now that I think of the Branson with AG tires I haven't gotten it stuck yet so you could be right! Thanks.
Good video thank you. I have ? I'm moving to Vermont and have a chance to buy a caterpillar 430 d . My property has some steep hills .I wondering if the backhoe will tip over backwards going up to some of the spots I need to get to.thank you again for the video
Great video for information... how about snow? say 2 feet deep and frozen underneath and would be for logging in winter and summer field work... the tractor gonna make it?
Good job Joe, but I disagree about the h,p. my 29 h.p. handles a 5 ft. grader & brush cutter. If you have large acerage and need bigger implements, than of course you will need more h.p..
Good input. Depending on how creative they might get it could make a difference having more HP. Also I recommend it for stability, like for lifting a half ton log with the loader/grapple. More hp equals more weight. Just my thoughts, but thanks.
This was very helpful thank you. I know the video has been out for awhile now but... I was wondering if you would still pick the tractor for mountain work. I have 90 acres in the mountains FYI.
That would totally depend on the major tasks you plan to use it for. The tractor is best for using implements behind it; disc, planter, tiller, blade, box blade, etc. But if you don't plan on gardens, working up any ground, and just road work, ditch work, then a CTL/MTL might be a better fit. Good luck! Thanks.
A deere 110tlb has a removable hoe and a PTO drive the same as say a Kubota L48. They have a lot more lifting capacities and you can find them with aftermarket cabs. You said a CTL for traction was an 8 i think but you forget that he wants to push snow and the tracks are not as good as wheeled and the tracks freeze in the cold and i had it happen lots when they are left out. But if it was me i would try to raise that budget to 30 grand and buy a simple compact tractor with a backhoe and the implements he wants and buy an old farm tractor that is in good shape and not some POS and use it for the grunt work like pulling logs and yanking stumps.
A lot of the bigger tractors (and maybe these back hoes?) have an 11 spline pto shaft and can't work with smaller tractor implements. Good points. I hope they can maybe up the budget some at least also.
Good information 👍 I had a hard time deciding on a John Deere X575, X585,X595 or a 1025R/1026r for a small 4x4 sub compact/Super Garden tractor to do smaller chores and to mow the yard about two years ago. So I decided to go with a used 2004 John Deere X575 4x4 super garden tractor with 490.5 original hours on it and it came with a 54 inch John Deere mower deck and it mows and plows snow great 👍. Also I have some videos of me mowing and plowing snow on my RU-vid channel if you would like to see it.
@@kapperoutdoors Thank you! I currently have a John Deere X575, 1996 New Holland 2120 compact tractor with loader, 1967 Craftsman 10XL garden tractor, a 1974 John Deere 110 garden tractor which is the newest addition to my equipment fleet and a 1983 Satoh Mitsubishi Beaver Three compact tractor that has 186.8 original hours. My dad has a 1986 Wheel Horse 520 HC, 1996 Toro/Wheel Horse 520H, 1994 Ford 1920 compact tractor with loader, and a 2006 John Deere 5325 4x4 with power reverser with cab and loader.
good morning It is a great review and provide clearly recommendations. I have a question and need your opinion. I bought a vacant land, and I need to open a road. my land is in a hill area. and I will plant fruit trees and run a vine yard in the future. I have 30K (Canadian dollar), based on my situation, what kind the machine is optimized option, if I want to buy? Tractor with backhoe, skid loader or mini excavator? Thanks
Building a road eliminates the tractor for the most part. In hilly terrain I'd say a mini excavator would be the best tool for building a road, mostly because of its ability to pull stumps much better than a skid steer. But a skid steer is better for grading a road, leveling dirt and moving material. Best of luck on your future projects, thanks.
What about snow removal? I live in Michigan, Wisconsin's next-door neighbor, and we get snowfall a foot or two at a time in some parts of the state so digging myself out of my mile long driveway is a big deal
Yes you have a very good point there. But most any machine you get should be able to remove snow with the right implements whether it be a tractor or a skid steer. Thanks and good luck
That’s awesome that you got to test out many different types of tractors and equipment. That definitely looks enjoyable. Keep up the awesome content I enjoy watching.
Hey Kap at 7:52 I had to stop. Your evaluations are skewed. A tractor is the best machine for a first time prepper. The start up cost are cheaper the attachments are cheaper but the learner curve is longer. That being said once the tractor is mastered then a prepper can move on up to minis and track loaders. I am tired of beating a dead horse, forgive me. I give up.
I hope by now you would realize that I have been here since the beginning. I have always supported you but sometimes you are a little off. I have done this type of work since the early seventies, back before mini ex's and skid steers. All we had was tractors and if lucky enough a backhoe. For a small operation a tractor is the best way to go because of start up cost. I am sorry if you think I am trolling you, I am not. I just want to help.
@@12ozbuds yes I know you've been with us since the start and we appreciate that. But I'm going to be honest, lately you've been more and more negative than what you used to be. Perhaps we're just changing and you don't enjoy it anymore, which is fine. Thank you, and as always I don't mind open discussions. I still remain open and willing to learn because that's just how I am. Maybe it doesn't come across as much.
