Just a thought. but I enjoyed the old videos where they got a budget and we followed them around as they picked up their gear and the thoughts behind it more.
@@Fukyourfeelingslol who hurt you? 😂 But nah, to each their own man, that’s the great thing about opinions - everyone’s got em For instance, it’s of my opinion that I’m not a fan of Flying V guitars, but I don’t find videos with one in the thumbnail and then comment about how I dislike them If I had narcotics, I’d share with you, seem like you could use a little, friend
@@collinadams8165 Whooooahhh!!! all that gain must be coming from like... 1,000 valves!! OR IT'S A DISTORTION PEDAL, RUNNING THROUGH SOLID STATE TRANSFORMERS. you must be new to guitar, or amplification technology. go read up, and get back to me, dunce.
To my ears, the Orange wins this one but it had a lot of help from the delay. I thought the EQ actually made it sound worse but overall, I liked it more. I might have gone with something a bit cheaper than the 5150 and added a few more effects. Also, this was good.
It’s funny, I went through this recently. I tried the pedals thing but couldn’t make the sound I wanted. So I scrapped the pedals, got a mkii 2x12 100w katana and presets have got every sound I could ever need, and gave me what I wanted
We all won with that contest, as an Anderton's metal vid is always a winner. Tbh there were bits from both rigs i loved... I use a micro dark myself so amp-wise I'm team Ben, loved his delay as well, but John's dinky and phaser were great. We want more of this stuff please Lee, and get some doom content too!
I like the 1x12 and mini head setup, there's lots of great mini heads these days you could use and have a range of tones and lot of gear in a small space.
My cheapest metal rig for 1000 (insert your currency here) would be this: Guitar: Ibanez RGA42FM or Ibanez RG421PB (both around 400 EUR) or if you don't need tuner pedal: FGN Boundary Odyssey (549 EUR which is a steal for a japanese guitar!) Pedals and Amp (=493 EUR): TC Electronic PolyTune 3 (good buffer and tuner) Tone City Kaffir Lime (great to control bass/treble) Mooer Micro PreAMP 005 (for really heavy stuff) or Mooer Micro PreAMP 012 (if you like boosted brown sounds) Mooer Baby Bomb 30 W (plenty loud to play with a drummer) Harley Benton G112 Celestion V30 (sorry but this is the cheapest way to get a decent V30 cab) This goes on a really small pedalboard and is the ultimate lightweight rig.
I reckon we win for getting to listen to that. The rigs complement each other really well to me. I don't prefer one over the other, they do slightly different things and work well together.
Both rigs sounded awesome so it's really hard to choose, but if I did had to pick then I would probably say John's tone with that phaser just bumped it over the top for me. Absolutely brilliant
I've had the Orange Micro Dark myself for years. He sounds incredible for his size, and it's really loud! But now it has become my live backup for the VX Kraken for half a year.😝
I was expecting this to be close, but John totaly owns this for me. That raspy agressive in your face sound but with great string separation, just wins.Bens sounds too squished to my ears.
John wins rhythm and riffs, Bens wins lead/ melodic runs. Both will compliment eachother in a mix almost perfectly. Last thing you want is rhythm with a lot of delay or reverb. Bens will not chug nicely, and the lack of delay on Johns is a no go for a lead/solo
That 5150 has a built-in Boost that brings up the tone for leads (adds Gain and Level). I think he should have tried it. It doesn't truly do what Delay does, but it brings up the leads nicely.
Nice video 💯.... However I would personally like to see a video where we take the amp out of it... & Use a Multi Effects Pedal with Pedal Sims 🎤 mic Sims Amp cab Sim's And Speaker Sims Although I believe adding a pedal is good... Than the Guitar 🎸. IMO SPEAKERS are More important than the guitar. However The most important thing is the PLAYER... Cheers 🍻🥃🥃🎸🎵🎶🎶🎶
Well they sound best together to be fair , that orange rig is perfect for rhythm and the Evh was perfect for lead , Ben’s rig sounded thick and juicy in the mids what carry’s the heft of the sound and John’s is spikey and sort of thin sounding with a very high register fizzyness that cuts trough the mix like a battle axe .
Under a thousand? You can do this under 500$ and sound spectacular! Will it have tubes? If You look used and very hard. The sound of Chinese manufactured pedals, preamps,speakers, power amps and guitars is absolutely stellar these days. For under a hundred You could have a set up floor and tour rig. If You can watch a video about intonation (really easy) You can have an Amazing Metal Guitar that no one would know how cheap You were cause You sound so awesome! Don’t get Me wrong I used to have to Have a Mesa Boogie Triple Rectifier, matching Oversized 4/12,Boutique tube screamers and the like, a Gibson Sg Standard and PRS S2 standard 24 satin for back up and I understand marketing and the consumer base, and the need to feel “professional”, it just isn’t worth it to Me these days because I can emulate it to a blindfolded challenge debate and debacle. Been doing this along time and In this case I would mix match these two rigs and have 600 ish left to spend! Well 400 with cab. Awesome even though I would totally not pick any of these choices. (Maybe the Jackson but different color) yep I’m bored but 100 percent being factual!
These two should do more vids together - the banter is great 🙂 But what we really need to see is Nathan & Lee back doing bass stuff. Where's all the good bass stuff?
Here would be my picks (Current Prices in USD from Sweetwater): 1. POD GO: $375 + $20 (You can by AMAZING IRs and Presets for like $20 and really transform this), personal fav: Fremen Presets 2. Boss Katana MKII: $229 (Only interested in MKII since they have POWER AMP IN - so directly acts as a CAB for POD GO, can also be used as AMP if needed) Both 1 and 2 total 624 USD 3. Now you have $376 for a guitar, so depending on what you play, you can try couple of these. However, you may need a lil more for a decent guitar 3.a. Jackson Dinky Arch Top JS32 - new one for $399 - Amazing fret work and great pickups for the price. Comes with A Floyd Trem system - not the best but pretty stable. 3.b. If you shell a little more for a Schecter Omen 6 - that would be the best choice but will put you 50-100 USD above the budget.
I enjoyed the sound of the Orange rig a little more. Probably due to the V30 loaded birch ply cab. My ears are so used and that sound and it just works.
Joyo Jackman II (Or the Dual Rec clone they do) 112 V30 cab subzero/hardly bentone Tone city TS clone Whatever other tone city pedals you want as well Epiphone Explorer, V, SG or Paul Sinple as
It's the best choice, when you decide to focus your budget primarily on the amp. at least for what kids today think is "Metal". I'd rather pick a squire classic vibe and a Marshall dual super lead 20
Funny - I can almost replicate Ben's winning rig with things lying on my "spares shelf" including a King V JS32 (EMG upgraded) and a criminally under-used Micro Dark. I foresee a mini rig-build coming up ....
For the purposes of the video. The guy on the right's rig sounded better. But I have owned that Orange setup before - without the EQ pedal - and I was not happy with it. I question wether there is any chance you could hear it over a drum kit either. And the 5150 sounds way better in person. But whatever. I havn't watched one of these in years, back when Rabea was doing them. This was entertaining and fun
Looking for a begginers rig i would probably go Hotone Ampero II, its decent enough to keep you entertained and its conveniet. Everything else is going straight into guitar. I fould either get an FRFR monitor later or experiment with real amps, but if i am on a budget and i am fresh to guitar world (basically these two together are almost always the case) a reasonably priced modeller plus a decent guitar is the go for me.
Yeah anything with orange instantly wins for me, i think an old Marshall JMP might overtake orange but in this case orange wins hard. I think its that raw organic sound orange has, its exactly like those old Marshalls cranked hard
I expected Ben to crush this, but I actually think John won 100% You can tell the Micro Dark is really starting to fart out at those volumes... owned one back in the day and while it definitely punches above its weight, it's rather limited and at higher volumes it kinda farts out.
I bought a Js-227 and the quality blew me away. Maybe I got lucky but when I tested out LTD schecter etc. nothing was close. It's better than most of my other guitars that cost 4x.
John's sounds better on its own but can't be heard when played with Ben due to his pronounced mid range. It could be an issue with the EVH in the mix but maybe through a tube screamer in and that might fix it.
Not even a debate; John's rig sounds more metal. 5150 will always be the standard. Also, came into this video thinking "none of these guys are going to know shit about metal," but I was pleasantly surprised.
I'm more into Doom / Stoner metal. So I'd get an Epiphone SG Standard. In Alpine White. And a Marshall DSL20 combo amp. For pedals, a Electro-Harmonix Nano Metal Muff, because it has EQ and a gate too. And a TC Magus Pro, because it does the heavy Fat Rat sound, and the gnarly Turbo Rat sound. Fuzz & Rat together would get me toward that Sunn O))) Life Pedal sound. Can play the octaves by hand :)
Metal is supposed to sound big and loud and powerful and you cannot get that from a little 3 inch orange amp that makes it sound like it's in a bird house.
I have a Micro Dark and a Dark Terror. I don't find they NEED an EQ pedal if you know how to use the tone knob. You can easily get a balanced but mid-heavy tone.
Hit like if you think Andertons should do a video on Cort Guitars and Basses. They are producing really quality premium instruments. I would love to know their perception of it. Please make this comment stand out so Andertons gets the message.
