I was torn between the Neotec 2 and the HJC RPHA 90S, until I read a crash report from SHARP where the chin bar on the Neotec 2 only stayed closed in crashes 70% of the time, while the HJC RPHA 90S stayed closed 100% of the time. It made it a no-brainer for me to go with the HJC RPHA 90S.
Safety is a helmet's primary purpose, so the HJC is definitely a top choice, particularly due to its predecessors' SHARP results. As an added bonus, it also performs very well out on the road coming in even quieter than the Neotec 2. Thanks for the comment! What are your thoughts on the HJC helmet's performance?
@@Championhelmets I am really liking the HJC. Good snug fit. Easy to see out of. Dampens sounds well, and with a good pair of earplugs sound becomes a distant roar. Almost can't hear my motorcycle engine. And I really love the sun visor. My old helmet would make everything look dark. The HJC uses really good materials for the sun visor that blocks the suns sharp glare, but still allows me to see clearly. It costs over twice as much as my old helmet, but I find the comfort, features and the safety to be worth it.
@@Sunesen Great to hear you're enjoying the HJC helmet! We were also definitely impressed with how it performed on the road, and it showed a remarkable improvement over the previous RPHA 90. Thanks for the reply, we appreciate it! If you find you have any questions, we're always happy to help
This is probably the best and the most thorough helmet review video I've ever seen in my life! And I've seen a lot of them. What an awesome job, guys! Thank you VERY much for doing that. I'm your big fan now. Please test Caberg Levo - i'm really interested if it's any good or not.
One popular helmet you forgot was the Bell SRT Modular. It is a great helmet for the price, well balanced has all the features and was my first modular helmet. Moved to rpha 90s after 3 years but ai move definitely buy it again if I was more budget conscious ...
@@Championhelmets excellent choice of helmets. Who seriously buys a touring helmet would only consider top of the line brands. . BMW does make itś own helmet. I can understand not reviewing a helmet that you don’t sell. Would be curious how it stands up against the competition. That withstanding, great job ... next Helmet, Schuberth C4 carbon pro....Shoei close second......too bad you guys are not in Europe...greetings from Berlin, Jim
I bought the HJC RPHA 90S Carbon, specifically because of the noise level. But sadly, I find it way louder than my previous Schubert C3 Pro. Maybe it's because of the wind shield of touring bikes vs my naked Triumph Speed Twin. The 90S is way more comfortable for me though in comparison to the odd shape of the C3, so the added need for more ear protection is tolerable. Still interesting to see that both the RPHA 70 & 90 get regular stellar noise reviews, but then once in a while, people do not see the same results for them, like myself.
Noise is always a difficult aspect of a helmet since it can be affect by numerous factors including fitment, riding position, bike fairings, and more. This is why we do our best to control as many variables as possible by using the same bike through all our tests. Thanks for the comment! Besides noise and comfort, how have you found the HJC helmet out on the road?
@@Championhelmets Its very comfortable for me, and I like the "plain" carbon design. Visor is good, chin mechanism is good, P/J, and ventilation didn't let me down in 30°C weather. Fitment of my Packtalk Slim was easy (although the biggest 45mm(?) speakers don't fit well, went for the smaller ones).
Thanks for the feedback! All these helmets fit glasses well, though the Shoei, HJC, X-Lite, and Schuberth do an excellent job of being more accommodating.
Great review. Very data driven. Have you considered giving points to fit? Seems like that would be an important point. Custom fitting seems pretty important.
Thanks for the feedback! We found this an important feature as well. So, we factor in custom fitting options (such as Shoei's multiple liner sizes or X-Lite's adjustment tabs) in our features category under liner features. What are your thoughts on the helmets we tested out?
@@Championhelmets taking everything into consideration I decide to buy Neotec 2! I believe it is a really good choice because of its multifunction, double approval for 'open and close' helmet use on the road. I mean safety reasons. The price is also a strong point of this helmet. However, I think about release date of Neotec 3.. do you know rumours? Anything else about a new series?
@@cypis7777 Those are all aspects that the Neotec 2 does do very well in. So far, we have no rumors yet. Due to the new ECE 22.06 standard coming into effect, it would most likely be a few years before we see a new Neotec. Thanks for the reply! If you find you have any further questions, we're always happy to help
I bought the Nolan n100-5 plus which is the slightly cheaper alternative to the XLite, based on your review. The helmet is great for fit and comfort but i will need to get more miles and some more highway use before i can make a definitve recommendation
The Nolan does definitely share a lot of features with the X-Lite, and it is a highly well respected helmet in the touring world. As we found out on our road test, it balanced price very well with comfort, quality, and features. Thanks for the comment, if you have a chance, we're curious to hear how you find the helmet!
I wish the Klim TK1200 would have been tested also. I'm curious to see where it would have ranked in features and road noise. Thx for putting this video and comparison together.
Due to the speakers and microphone already being integrated into the C4 Pro, mounting the Packtalk Slim will be more challenging. There are two ways around this with either the Cardo Packtalk Bold or going with the C4 Basic. We also go into more detail in our video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6TZHHgpqukI.html Thanks for the question!
Excellent, through and very detailed review. Best of any helmet review I've seen. Only thing I would suggest you add to your metrics would be consideration of csrtified testing approvals. (DOT/ECE/ etc.)
Hello TN, thank you for your comment, in the videos, although we do not show it on the screen, we usually name what type of certification the products have. In any case, we will consider your advice for future reviews. Thanks again!
Great review, gives a good picture of what is out there and details to look for. One other parameter I would like to see is how the visor works at speed. I am on my second Neotec, the feature that made this my helmet of choice it that the visor will stay open at speed, I like to ride with the visor up, visor down is claustrophobic for me and ruins the experience, maybe it is the lack of fresh air because riding with the tinted visor down is not a problem. My first modular was a Shuberth C3, the visor came down almost as soon as you started riding, contacted Shuberth and they said it was designed to close at something like 30 kph, could not live with it. This might be something to add the the tons of data you already collect.
I envy those who can wear all of these helmets. The Shoei is the only one that I have tried on that fits my extra large, intermediate to long oval head. If the original Neotec is any indication, it won’t be comfortable by the end of a day of riding. Nice comparison though.
Thanks for the feedback, we appreciate it! Two alternatives to the Shoei that may be worth looking at would be the AGV Sportmodular and the HJC RPHA 90S Carbon, as some riders have found those to fit more long oval. Though the best option in that case would be to try the helmets on locally to make sure. Alternatively, swapping the inner liner sizes may also help with improving the fitment. Thanks for the comment, we appreciate it! Besides comfort, how have you found the Shoei helmet out on the road?
Though the vents of the Eliminator are not adjustable and are always open, it is possible to pick up an external rain cover. Though sold separately, this will take care of covering the vents. Thanks for the question!
The helmets that offer the most adjustability out of the box would the be the X-Lite X-1005 Ultra Carbon, Nolan N100-5 Plus, and Shark EVO GT. The Nolan and X-Lite include a special band that allows you to adjust the tightness of the liner while the Shark EVO GT includes an extra set of cheek pads. The Shoei X-Spirit 3 also offers a fantastic array of fitment options, though the pads are sold separately. Thanks for the question!
At the moment, the best option to check out chin bar strength would be to check out the helmet's SHARP score. This is additional voluntary testing conducted by a UK organization, which also includes an indication of percentage of impact tests where the chin bar stayed shut. Thanks for the question! What are your thoughts on the helmets we tested out?
The B902X is the top comms system from N-Com (which makes systems for X-Lite and Nolan). This means that the system directly integrates into the helmet and is ECE approved, offers audio multi-tasking, and it offers improved performance. Thanks for the question!
Hi, have you guys ever temperature tested the difference between a black helmet and a white one? I'm very curious to see if a white helmet helps as much as I think it would. I'm currently looking to ditch my black Schuberth C3 Pro for a white helmet. Thanks!
Though we have not explicitly tested a black helmet vs a white one, over the course of numerous tests we haven't found it to make a discernible difference. We've found well-ventilated black helmets and hot white helmets. However, as far as riding for long periods in the sun, we would still tend towards a white helmet to be on the safe side. Thanks for the question! What are your thoughts on the helmets we tested out?
MY AGV Sportmodular is so fantastic but i have a lot problems with the air enters from the closed visor also a lot rumor inside the helmet...very nice but dont dance ;))))
Great to hear you're enjoying the Sportmodular! Unfortunately, the poorer seal of the visor was one of the reasons why the helmet earned fewer stars in that category. Nonetheless, we were impressed by its weight and performance on the road. Thanks for the comment! Besides the visor, how have you found the AGV helmet?
@@Championhelmets The weight is exceptional with a good soft interior. The plastics are a little bit cheap. The closing mechanism is good. Remember it is a P and not P / J approved helmet !!!
@@captonlocation3143 Great to hear the interior is working well. We were also hoping for a J homologation as well, though we still seem to have a mix even among other premium options since the C4 Pro is also only P certified. Thanks for the reply, we appreciate it! If you find you have any questions, we're always happy to help
Great comparison, but the Caberg Levo is missing, which (from reviews) could easily compete with the tops of other brands despite being in a lower price range.
Thanks for the suggestion! Unfortunately, we don't currently stock Caberg helmets so we haven't been able to test them out on the road. Though it does seem to be a strong helmet in the lower price range. What did you think of the helmets we tested out?
@@Championhelmets I am more oriented towards helmets with a wide field of view, both for safety reasons and for driving pleasure (for example in tourist trips). In this respect, the C4 is certainly at the top, and the LEVO is probably no less. Basically that's why I was interested in adding it to the comparison ;)
Hi guys, really appreciate the accurate reviews and well put together presentations. One question - i thought the SCHUBERTH C4 pro only came in 2 shell sizes, however you mention that the C4 pro carbon comes in 3 sizes - could you elaborate on the difference between the two models’ shells ? Thanks
Taking another look, the C4 Pro comes in 2 outer shell sizes, with the distribution running from XS - L and XL - XXXL. Unfortunately, this is not very many compared to the helmet's competitors, and, according to our matrix, it would mean a carbon fiber helmet would earn 3.5 stars for this category while a fiberglass helmet would earn 3. Nonetheless, the C4 Pro (carbon) still comes out on top due to its excellent performance and features.
The main difference between the two helmets is that the EVO GT is meant to be the more advanced Shark option. This means that the helmet comes with improved ventilation, a more premium comfort liner, extra cheek pads for fitment, and a better mechanism that means that the Pinlock is included in the box. Thanks for the question!
Thanks for letting us know how you found the two helmets! The Schuberth does tend towards the rounder side of intermediate oval, which can make fitment a bit tougher, while the Shoei is a bit more neutral. Besides fitment, how have you found the two helmets?
@@richardvalitalo3670 When we tested out the helmet, we found the E1 actually came in slightly quieter than the Neotec 2. This is not surprising considering its relationship with the C3 Pro, and, subsequently, the C4 Pro. As far as noise isolation, Schuberth or the HJC RPHA series are among some of the strongest contendors that we've tested. Thanks for the reply! If you find you have any further questions, we're always happy to help
The best helmet for 2021, 2022 and so on is still the Schuberth C4 Pro (non-Carbon) 🙌🏻 It's cheaper than the Carbon (which really does NOTHING except raise the price) and also has better Comm System range, which is something that you completely omitted...
Lolwut? I don't care about your fantasies, but in reality Schuberth C4 Pro is a heavy pig that weights almost 1.9 kg, which is ridiculously heavy for a modern expensive high-end helmet. C4 Pro Carbon, on the other hand, is whole 200 grams lighter than it's cheaper fat sibling. And that is significant difference between otherwise similar helmets. Which makes C4 Pro Carbon much better than the C4 Pro.
@@Rex_Payne "heavy pig" said the guy who rides around on his Bavarian midlife crisis bike. 🤣 Okay, boomer. Go tell yourself that that markup for a C4 C is worth it 🤡
@@mx5701, OMG that is hilarious! You didn't had the money for a proper helmet - so bought a cheaper heavy version instead. And now you are trying to compensate for this by saying nonsense online. Please proceed: that is amusing =) BTW, I'm barely over 30, poor, and ride an old Japanese bike in a 9-year old Caberg Duke. But, if I had the money for a new helmet, I would definitely NOT buy a Schuberth C4 Pro because I don't want to wear a kettlebell on my head.
If only Schuberth had 3 or 4 shell sizes so those of us size small wouldn’t look like bobble heads. This is the main reason I can’t ever purchase a Schuberth C4 Pro. So sad.
Since the main difference between the two helmets is their outer shell, we would expect them to be at about the same noise level. Though this may very depending on what conditions you're riding in, fitment, and your bike's setup. Thanks for the question! What are your thoughts on the HJC helmet?
@@Championhelmets I feel it's a good helmet the non carbon gives u more for your money since it hangs with the more expensive helmets. Was considering that or the agv modular since I found a deal on it but most likely going rpha 90s
@@djmurria That's fair enough, though the AGV definitely has the RPHA beat on weight, the 90S' performance on the road speaks for itself. Thanks for the reply! If you find you have any further questions, we're always happy to help
More than likely it's the same exact helmet with just a different paint scheme then called carbon fiber. You would also think there would be a significant weight difference between "carbon fiber " and the regular version. Carbon fiber is just a fantasy would for fiberglass. Like in cellphone screens or screen protectors have gorilla glass AKA plastic.
Got the Shoei Neotec II. I spend a lot of time in the shop walking round with it before buying. All seemed good but pressure points start to build after about 40min of riding. The pain builds up and distracts me from riding properly at some point as it is the only thing you can think of. Eventually the pain turns so unbearable that I have to stop. Last time didn’t make it even to a gas station anymore. I simply MUST stop and get this vice from my head. It sounds so stupid but all the enjoyment of riding is gone. You just want to stop, stop and stop. Get that darn torture device from your head. I’ve done the ‘Shoei custom fit’ twice in two different shops. All measurements match. Got all kinds of pads in it now and whatnot to make it fit. My ears do not align with the ear cutouts in the helmet any longer so earplugs hurt now too. And I can ‘kiss’ the chinbar as its very close now, which is weird. After all adjustments, my usage went up from 40 min to about an hour. Then I have to have a break and ride back. The second stint i cannot go as long. The third stint I only resist about 20min. I refuse to ride any long distances now with my mates. Went on a motorcycle holiday in Spain and it was a pure torture. So just short rides for a coffee these days. Nothing more. Such a shame, cause the helmet is great. Great airflow, silent, stable, easy flipup operation, no fogging up. I really wanted it to work and gave it a fair chance I think by having used it now for about 2 years. But I cannot take it any longer. So a great helmet, just not for my head. I’ll replace it soon with an AVG I think cause that brand always fitted like a glove for me. Too bad for the 800 euro’s or so that I threw at it. With all the custom fit adjustments, I doubt i can resell it too. Good luck!
@@Championhelmets nah, not really. To be fair, they cannot be blamed for the shape of my head... :p Anyway just to make people aware that the Shoei custom fit has its limits. And if its off, you’re in for a torture.
I'm the same, after 40 minutes I feel like I'm dying. I've had shoei, hjc, agv, ls2 some are better than others but in the end they all give me pressure points that set in within an hour. A break helps but as soon as I put it back on, within 10 minutes it's back with a vengeance. Some helmets, the pressure is on the back of my head, some it's the crown, some the sides. I'm thinking a modular one size up might be the next move, probably hjc as that is the best I've had thus far.
While both helmets would be fine for city riding, the V90's modularity will make it more convenient for gas station stops. However, since the V90 is only P certified, it is not certified for use with the chin bar open while on the road. Thanks for the question!
I just bought the Schuberth C4. I have a large melon and measured it and purchased size XXXL based on the factory specs. I find it quite tight...almost uncomfortable, but I haven't ridden with it yet. Is that typical fitting for it?
Some riders have found the C4 can run somewhat small and that it has a slightly more rounded head shape than most other modulars. The best option would be to see if you can break in the helmet any further by wearing it around the house. If the helmet is still too tight, a larger helmet may be required since the interior liners cannot be swapped to other sizes. Thanks for the question!
@@Championhelmets Thanks for your reply. I did wear it around the house and I pulled at the sides a bit each time I put it on. I have gotten use to the snug fit and have been on a couple of rides for an hour each or so. Chin strap is also a bit snug, but for some reason, all this snugness makes me feel a bit safer than my old Bell. Next step is to get comm set up. :)
Though we haven't tested out the Droid, the two helmets will be quite different in design and, as a result, performance. The Droid is a more standard touring modular helmet with aggressive styling, a drop down sun visor, and a full flip up chin bar. In contrast, the Broozer is primarily designed for street and urban riding and will come with fewer features even though the chin bar has been certified as protective, which is rare. In addition to this, the Droid will also offer a much better field of view than the Broozer. So, between the two, it would mainly depend on what you're looking to get out of your helmet and what sort of riding you usually do. Thanks for the question! What are your thoughts on the helmets we tested out?
@@Championhelmets thanks for the detailed and kind reply. Had the same impression about the two of them, droid less stylish but more "concrete", broozer beautiful with the visor lowered but you cant take the chin guard off cause its orrible otherwise..so rounded They're in the same range price but for two diff purposes.
Unfortunately, we do not stock LS2 helmets at the moment, so we are unable to test them out on the road. Thanks for the question! What did you think of the helmets we tested out?
Hello im new to motorcycle and currently looking for a good cruiser helmet before i get my bike. Do you have recommended helmets that would go well with rebel 500?My price range is 500-800$
With a bike like the Rebel 500, you have a number of options as far as helmets, so it would mainly depend on whether you're looking for an option that prioritizes comfort, aggressive styling, or mixes a bit of both. As far as comfort, this would best be served by an Arai with something like the Concept-X or the Quantic. For more aggressive styling, you can take a look at the Bell Broozer or Scorpion Covert-X. For a mix of both, you may want to check out something more retro like the Bell Bullitt DLX or the Eliminator. Thanks for the question! What are your thoughts on the helmets we tested out?
@@Championhelmets thank you for the answer. Really helps a new rider like me. I like the scientific approach of gathering ur datas. Really highlight the real world use and each pros and cons of the helmets. I just recently finished watching your best retro helmet video and i learned alot from it. Thank you again!
Have you opened the inner ventilation holes? They can be covered by the liner for extra isolation during winter. My C3 has very good ventilation compared to my previous two HCJ helmets (by now very old ones, admittedly)
@Champion Helmets whats the real weight for hjc rpha 90s carbon in large size? Some websites states its about 1350gm whereas you've stated it to be about 1520gm.
For a long oval fitment, the most positively mentioned helmet would be the LS2 Strobe, though we have not been able to test it out yet. The X-Lite X-1005 Ultra Carbon has also been mentioned as being more accommodating for LO head shapes, and it does include an adjustable liner as well. Though the best option would be to try these helmets on in a local store (if possible) to make sure that they fit correctly. Thanks for the question! What are your thoughts on the helmets we tested out?
hi, i get that you are testing helmets on the same bike with same rider but i would question using them on a bike with a screen (even in the low position). screens can create dirty air and can cause more noise than they take away and combined with different helmet shapes may give questionable results? i would have tested them on a bike without a fairing or screen but i get that testing hardware location may be an issue? i assume they were tested on same strip of road travelling in the same direction? i've just ordered the agv which i hope will be ok. at present i have a bmw system 6 which gets heavy on long runs so i hope the agv will suit my needs
By using the same bike, we do our best to ensure that our results are as controlled as possible. As such, we always test our helmets at 130 km/h on long stretches of highway where we take averages throughout. The AGV Sportmodular is among one of the lightest modular helmets that we've come across, so, hopefully, it will do the trick. Thanks for the comment! What are your thoughts on how the helmet performed?
@@Championhelmets hi, thanks for the response. i haven't received the agv yet but i'm hoping it will be as quiet as the bmw system 6 i have at present. the reason for change is 1700g on a long ride is starting to give me neck ache. as i stll want a modular the agv seemed like a good choice. the bonus is i got a new helmet for £280 due to a cosmetic defect. i'll reply back if the fit is good enough to keep and ride with it. i've also moved from an urban London environment where i wore a shoei j cruise most of the time. now i live in the Norfolk countryside near the coast. it's very flat and near the coast there is wind from all directions. i shied away from the schuberth due to price and the look. i had a c3 a while ago and i just didn't get on with the fit.
@@simplysounds @nigel sims Though we haven't had a chance to test out the BMW helmet, we'll keep our fingers crossed. The Schuberth can be a tricky fit for some riders. Though the C3 and C4 are slightly different in interior form, they do tend to run somewhat small and they vary between intermediate oval and round. Thanks for the reply! If you find you have any questions, we're always happy to help
@Champion Helmets I don't like to have to be "that guy" but it's been 4 days since last I've heard from you, I feel like I have no choice but to keep following up with you until you deliver the items I ordered and paid for. On Friday, 3/26, I spent $600 at your online store on items that were shown to be in stock, and also paid for 2-4 day expedited shipping on order #2000005901, only to get an e-mail three days later indicating that the items were actually not in stock, and estimating up to two weeks before they are in stock, and not being able to estimate a delivery date. Can you kindly please go through your supplier channels to source the proper helmet and bluetooth system I ordered, and expedite immediate delivery to me ASAP. Thanks in advance. Please contact me by phone directly (off of RU-vid) for any further questions.
