Best Moment: Tiffany Studios Inverted Hanging Shade, ca. 1901 | ANTIQUES ROADSHOW | PBS 

She already knew. She put it on there looking for buyers.

It takes a lot to impress anybody who has a sun porch.

Lol. My thoughts exactly.

@@sutats She's from New England, gotta already come from $ to live there anyway.

There's probably a snobby chicken or four in that henhouse.

Don't get your tailfeathers all riled up there.....

Right? Tiffany or not, if your chicken coop's got a stained-glass chandelier, I'm not sure the $100k-150k estimate is gonna be life-changing for this particular life. I don't know what it would be worth if it weren't Tiffany, but from the videos I've seen online using modern equipment to make smaller pieces, just knowing how much time even goes into those minor works... something like this would take a very skilled person potentially weeks of dedicated work. Like, hundreds of hours. There's the planning, which is three dimensional, sourcing the glass, cutting it, smoothing it, applying the copper foil (a relatively new technique at the time, which today has become common practice), soldering*, and then... what, welding, for those support fins? And that's another three-dimensional effort. The support fins may have been planned and constructed before the glass was cut, because otherwise you have thermal shock to contend with, right? So even a starting artist would likely get thousands and thousands and thousands of today-dollars if someone commissioned something like this from them. The fact that it's a Tiffany rookie card certainly helps though. But my point is, a work of this scale and quality was never meant to just be lying around. If the family from Jack in the Beanstalk had this lamp, the cow wouldn't be the thing going to market. *Anyone who has soldered circuits together would be familiar with this. You put copper on the thing, and then you apply hot molten solder, which bonds with the copper. The solder becomes the structure that holds the glass pieces together. The framework that holds the glass pieces together isn't constructed ahead. The metal and the glass are added to the work, one piece at a time. Just putting a fine point on how laborious this process is. The appraiser says that this work is unfinished. In most modern pieces, a compound (a strong oxidizer, maybe) is added to the finished piece, turning the surface of the solder that characteristic black.

@@tom_something Her grandfather the maintenance man, stole it. That's why it was hidden inside the chicken coop.

@@dirkremmington bawkbawkbAwWWK!!

I'd sell it to build a house.

That has been done.

It is nice, not 150,000 nice... rather have the cash and buy a fake Tiffany lamp.

Absolutely, I get the feeling that lady was expecting it to be more than 100K

@@dtulip1 oh yes. In fact, I wonder if she was hoping for 200k and was a little disappointed!

She did seem remarkably underwhelmed. lol

Guess you don’t need the dough anyway

Indeed, I would have said "color me happy" then proceed to sell it...😉

That was her pre faint game. Holy crap that shade was incredible!

@@rk100364 Not really, she was immediately cheesing the last few frames of that shot.

@@matthewnienkirchen8083 Not really. Very precise and detail oriented work! Not to mention a very costly "Habit" but the end result can be stunning and rewarding!!

She's an only child.

🤣🤣🤣

That’s 😂 funny!!

Muuuaaahahahahahaha🤪

lol

She was waiting for the evaluation ($$$) of the piece and didn"t care about the history of it lol

​@@MDeLorienI'm not even sure she was that impressed at the price!

@@TheDramaKings right!? I was thinking how excited I’d be.

I love how everybody on the Brit version says “Right, right…” (pronounced, of course, like WROYT)

Yea

Yeah.

🤣🤣🤣 Is that you cousin?

Yeah I thought that straight away. "my grandfather was a superintended at the estate, and somehow he got this and used it in his chickencoop". Yeah right, he would have known the value of something like that, and surely wouldn't have put it in a chickencoop. And if he had bought it, or were gifted it, it would have never been put in a chickencoop, and also that part of the story would surely have been known in the family. So it came across to me as if he stole it and was stored away safely somewhere.

Like she said "good to know"!

@@DutchFurnace sounds more like the owners of the house wanted to redesign/remodel (new chandeliers) and left this in a trash pile.

My second cousin, who's a chicken, lost a giant lampshade when someone stole it from his coop, spilling all his feed on the floor. We always figured it was a fox, but now we know the truth.

😂 💯 😂

I'd rather see someone scream and jump up and down. This woman probably just couldn't get the housekeeper to bring it this day.

Hahahaha.....yes, her 'enthusiasm' left alot to be desired.

😂😂 Yea, she's a bit arrogant, isn't she??

I think you are reading her reaction wrong

And he kept it in a chicken coup for years. Because you would, wouldn’t you? 😂

The story left too much room for the imagination. I was giggling thinking he might have picked it up on his last day. LoL

Grand daddy had such a good taste!..He knew what he was after!..🤔🤭😜

​Fairly Vague Yeah, there's only two reasons you'd keep stained glass in a chicken coop. 1) you had literally nowhere else to put it, or 2) you were trying to hide it. That last one hangs together a lot more plausibly.

Lol

true, but she seems stupid

I think she was expecting more zeros on the end of that appraisal.

Some people are just like that. Dhe might be an introvert who didn't want to make a fool of herself.

@@herberthickey5998very good point

or shes rich already and that number doesnt impress her

SAME! OMG was driving me crazy. I would slapped her! Yeah implies you already knew something and she didn't know crap! LOL

Drove me nuts too.

Yeah

I've seen that frequently in these shows where the "client" says, "yeah" in the middle of the experts description. It's so annoying you'd think they'd edit it out.

Like most people who haven't got a clue about something. Its the go to answer.

except styles change I have lamps out of torn down mansions that at the time were not wanted

Maybe he stole it.

@@RubbishFPS Maybe you missed the hint...

Yes! She put it in her sun porch. My sun porch is 10x12 and aluminum. If I hung it from the ceiling, the roof would cave in. 🤣

And hung it in her loft in the barn lol

So did the appraiser when she under-valued it. The gallery she works for was almost certainly trying to buy it from her at a lowball price.

@@AFAskygoddess lol!

Yeah her family has prolly been stealing stuff for decades.

She's sharing it? I wasn't aware I get to have it in my apartment for a while. Could you give me the dates when I am expected to be its caretaker? That's funny. Most lampshades are three dimensional objects. This is only two-dimensional on my screen. And the appraiser said that it was 33" in diameter. It's only a couple of inches in diameter on my screen. Maybe the appraiser was exaggerating a bit. Then again, the appraiser is only four inches tall herself. Now perhaps the woman has given the object to a museum. That would sort of be sharing it with the world, though how many people in the world are actually going to see it at the museum? What she has done is to share a series of pictures of the lampshade that make up four minutes of video with the world, or at least the people who have the money and the broadband connection to see them. I no more feel that I own a piece of that object than I feel I am part of Joe Biden's family by watching him on TV. If your friend in 1st grade said he/she was going to share a cupcake with you and then showed you a photo of a cupcake, or even a TV commercial featuring the cupcake, would you be grateful? Mind you, the owner didn't claim to be sharing it with the world. She was just coming to get it appraised. She may not have even known ahead of time that it was going to make the cut to the actual TV program. Indeed, if it hadn't been genuine, it probably wouldn't have been shown and she would have gone back to sharing it with chickens or her dining guests, so it's hard to imagine her intent was to share it with the world.

I think what most likely happened was, the place was either going to be torn down or gutted, and the property owner told him he could take what he wanted, because it was going to be trashed anyway. This was very common in the mid-20th century, before there was a desire to maintain and restore old buildings, architecture, furniture, etc.

It always reminds me of the Frazier episode where they took the bear statue on the show. I'd be freaking out regardless.

hopefully not moving it into the barn anymore

Haha

She must be well off.

@@sstills951 lol, its valuation was a bit less than I'd expected.. maybe that was her thoughts as well? But for sure she has that pinky out vibe about her, and her manner of speech.

Not everyone goes ape shoot over money. A good friend, of modest means, just inherited quite a fortune. His reaction was, "Well that will be nice for my children."

Yes, she should have screamed and vomited.

@@Imnotplayinganymore Yes, that is true. And, not everyone steals or wants to commit insurance fraud as some imply.

Laid across the back set of an old mini van with pop cans and fastfood bags to prop it up.

"I dont know how he came to have it" lol

No, this is what happened to Tiffany glass, lamps, windows etc after LCT died and his work fell out of fashion. Seventy five years later it was repopularized by a small handful of female collectors in and around NYC. The gallery the appraiser works for was founded by one of these women. The appraiser, however, knows 150k is lowball.

@@historyiwitness5915 It was when she said they stored it in the chicken coup, which made it all odd to me!

@@historyiwitness5915NO. IT WAS STOLEN.

Yeah.

With her intentionally lowball appraisal of this shade?

Oh good, glad it wasn't just me. I even said "shush lady" out loud. Lol

Yeah

Oh wow...

I went back and she said “yeah” 19 times 😂

19? That's it? I'll take your word for it. I can't listen to that again.

I have to agree with you @Donna Greene-Salter.. I've viewed more AR (both US & UK) than is normal, for someone my age and have been watching for decades (& still watching). The opening theme music is starting to feel like a burn on me.. "Haha, you're an old woman" no, I'm a middle aged woman!

Dear Donna G. 👍👌👏 You are absolutely right! I couldn't concentrate on what the expert lady said. Good grief! People who think it is necessary to "comment" each and every sentence (and even in nearly every half of the sentences) with "ja" are simply very annoying and respectless. Best regards, luck and health.

Yeah, it's obviously not there so she can put a price tag on it....she just wanted some history on it. And now....an insurance policy. LFMAO

Common folk would have never known this thing was worth anything. This was something special to this woman. She wasn't looking for a money grab, like the filthy animals of the world would.

Yeah

If you look at the thumbnail her mouth is open in shock. My guess is they allowed her to “redo“ her reaction because she was embarrassed and edited the first one out.

I agree, she had an idea.

@@jakegolding8388 ​ The thumbnail is from 0:54

She likely did. Lillian Nassau's gallery knows 150k is far below the value of this shade and they were likely trying to buy it from her at a steal. They would sell this privately for 3x that amount.

Whenever they say “good to know”, You know they’re disappointed !

Yeah!

i didn't notice

@@fmcdomer oh

They research things before taping the show with the owners.

Except how to legitimately appraise a very rare lampshade. This was a lowball appraisal that the gallery's appraiser hoped would slip by without notice.

Seems more then a bit strange.

Explained at the end by the support structure and being built like a brick out....chicken coop.

In this case its because the shade has been sorely undervalued. Lillian Nassau's gallery knows this is worth much more to a private collector and the owner may have had it checked out before she went on the show. The gallery was trying to get it at a low low price and betting dollars to donuts Ms. Sulka tried to buy it right after the filming.

@ran196. I completely disagree if you watch the UK Antique Roadshow the guests especially from the 1990s are always underwhelmed. Even with great appraisals.

Either that, or she's so filthy rich she'd pretty much be unimpressed by any number.

I remember a Tiffany table lamp auctioned for one million

@@danacaro-herman3530 are they allowed to do that?

After Louis Comfort Tiffany died, many many of his creations were treated the exact same way. It would be wrong to think his glass remained popular from then until now. It didn't. In fact, it fell completely out of style and nobody was displaying it anymore. Shades, windows, favrile glass...it all went into the "out of vogue" bin and for more than 50 years after Tiffany died, nobody cared. Then in the 1960s a small handful of female collectors (which included Lillian Nassau, whose gallery this appraiser works for) began re-popularizing the medium and thanks to them a huge market exists today. HOWEVER, the appraiser knows very well that this shade is worth much more than 150k and a "shame on them" is somewhat appropriate here.

@@historyiwitness5915 Thanks for this information. Very helpful. I think the clip is not 2022 - hence the appraisal..I think it from a way back.

Stop throwing commas around ffs.

@@poeticserenade Triggered by commas? Who, would, have, thought?

@@lucindaarmour4685 commas aren't supposed to be used when you physically say "uhh"

No one was. It's Tiffany. Compare it to others such as John LaFarge and there is no confusion.