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Best Parallel Clamp? Harbor Freight vs Bessey, Jet, & More! 

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@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 2 года назад
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@13daniel1974
@13daniel1974 2 года назад
I got the Bessey Parallel Clamp 2 pack. Very nice. Thanks for the review.
@Eduardo_Espinoza
@Eduardo_Espinoza 23 дня назад
*Limited* lifetime warranty = 1 year
@christopherpavlicas
@christopherpavlicas 2 года назад
I highly suspect the slight inward angle on the clamps are "intentionally" engineered into their design to account for the deflection when the clamps are tightened. In fact, I am sure this is the case.
@awlthatwoodcrafts8911
@awlthatwoodcrafts8911 2 года назад
I was thinking the same thing. Like a flatbed trailer. It is intentionally made with a crown so that by the time you add the weight of the freight, it's flat, instead of sunken. Having said that, Matt's test didn't seem to show that any of the clamps did a good job of deflecting back to parallel when under pressure.
@christopherpavlicas
@christopherpavlicas 2 года назад
@@awlthatwoodcrafts8911 BTW - Your truck bed analogy is perfect! Just a final point. Matt wasn't testing the clamps on wide material (i.e. holding cabinet sides together) that would put pressure along the entire length of the clamps out to the ends where the deflection would be the greatest. He was comparing the clamps with boards about an inch or less thick which only pressed into the lowest corner of the clamps.
@jimbusmaximus4624
@jimbusmaximus4624 2 года назад
You're correct, they're specifically made that way. It's not a defect. It really irked me that he made it sound like it was.
@bluepeakworkworking
@bluepeakworkworking 2 года назад
I agree with your flatbed analogy but I have some Bessey Revos that will not deflect enough for the jaws to become parallel no matter how much pressure. Also, the amount each clamp is out of parallel is not consistent from one to the next. My advice is to check them while you can still return them.
@thisiscristian
@thisiscristian 2 года назад
Absolutely! This guy doesn't know how to test these. Clamping pressure measurement is essential for nearly all the [important]testing he did.
@brentfrench752
@brentfrench752 Год назад
I saw this video when it first came out, but since then I learned a little more about parallel clamps. The head of a parallel clamp is not supposed to be 90 degrees parallel to the bar. There should be a slight deflection, or toe in at the upper portion of the head, or the area opposite the bar. When you tighten the clamp, the bar deflects or bends slightly upward which in turn pulls the top of the head out slightly which brings it 90 degrees with the bar. In theory that’s how it’s supposed to work anyway. Obviously, if you tighten the parallel clamp too hard, it’s most likely going to raise your panel in the center so it no longer sits flat and level. However, in all likelihood, the panel will return flat and level one the clamps are released, but this may not always be the case. When gluing up panels, you only need to tighten parallel clamps, well probably any clamp until the boards come together and you get the glue squeeze out. There’s no need to tighten it further. So, since the Harbor Freight parallel clamp head is almost, or at 90 degrees, or square to the bar, when you tighten the clamp the top of the head, or the area of the head furthest from the bar will toe out a bit as the bar deflects, or slightly bends upwards. Again, the bar deflection or bend, and toe out will all depend on how tight you set your clamps. This shouldn’t have much, if any impact on panel glue ups, as most panels are 1” or less. However, it really shouldn’t matter if your panel is 2” or so. The only time this could be a problem is when you actually need the full hight of the parallel clamp head and base to hold a workpiece. So what is that 4-5”? Therefore this is more for your education as in practice, it probably isn’t going to impact your clamping, unless you need equal clamping pressure along the full area of the head and base. I personally believe if you’re clamping panels that are 1” or less, “F” style clamps would be just as effective as parallel clamps. This information is my opinion only. I have not tested this theory, but I have seen it tested on a couple RU-vid woodworking channels.
@andrewjonas5523
@andrewjonas5523 2 года назад
My man, are you following me around or something lol??? I was literally holding the HF clamps yesterday morning, trying to decide if I should buy a few just because, or just keep buying my bessy clamps. Ultimately I decided to do my research, found nothing. Then you release this. 13 hours sooner Matt and I would have had blues with the reds. Haha great video.
@timvoiss1568
@timvoiss1568 2 года назад
As a metal worker, when i make jaws on the cnc lathe i put a taper in them, smaller at top and about .003 bigger at the bottom, when clamping the part it will push the jaws out and will make the jaws parallel. that should be the same on the clamps, top will deflect out to put more surface area clamped, this how its done on a cnc lathe, Had my hands on HF 24" clamps but I bought 3 scopes for a rifle before i bought the one for the job so I bought the 18" Bessey guess i will go back and get the HF 24" Thanks for saving me money
@misterfee6467
@misterfee6467 2 года назад
this is why they are out of square, These clamps are designed to apply even pressure.
@bucknboard
@bucknboard 2 года назад
Agree wholeheartedly on minor jaw defection. I believe this is part of the design for parallel clamps. It would have been interesting to measure bar thickness and it’s relation to bar deflection. I did a review of trigger clamps this way. It is no surprise that the Bremen came in so high after doing some in store evaluation. Solid clamp
@themontashu1
@themontashu1 2 года назад
They do the same with woodworking clamps. If the vast majority of them are all angles, it’s probably for a reason
@natehaack4999
@natehaack4999 2 года назад
I bought the Bremens recently. The 48" are only $40 while the 24" are $35 as Matt said. I got my 48" ones for $30 when they were on sale recently. An awesome price! They are fantastic and also come with those clips to hold up your workpiece. I was really happy that his tests showed they were comparable to Jet and Bessey. I was a little worried that I had just gotten some diamonds in the rough. Glad to see that if I need more, I can buy with relative confidence. Back at ya Matt!👊
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 2 года назад
👊🏻
@sinsofvorador
@sinsofvorador 2 года назад
I got some of the Jorgensens and I hate these things. The bar sucks. I clamped up a pine panel and the lock cut into the bar so bad that they locked in place, so bad that I had to drop them on the floor to knock them loose. After getting them open I noticed how bad they cut the bar. And it's really bad. My bessey don't do that and I've cranked down on the hard.
@mavision6525
@mavision6525 2 года назад
I too recently picked up the Bremens. Completely satisfied way more than my Jorgensen clamps.
@chingonbass
@chingonbass 2 года назад
the bremens C clamps are also pretty good and the pistol clamps ain't bad
@josephmasini6488
@josephmasini6488 2 года назад
Bessey’s prices went up at the Home Depot. It’s now $70 for the 50” clamp. Not sure it just the Depot or Bessey them selves. I have 2 50” that I got for $56 each a while back. It’s a. Great clamp but now at $70 makes me think a little am I getting value?
@txrazor2643
@txrazor2643 2 года назад
I thought i was on Project Farms channel for a minute there. 🤣
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 2 года назад
😂
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 2 года назад
You could say I was I inspired by his videos on this one
@txrazor2643
@txrazor2643 2 года назад
@@731Woodworks I will say you were as thorough as he is.
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 2 года назад
That’s a huge compliment. Love his videos.
@GentleGiantFan
@GentleGiantFan 2 года назад
I thought the same thing. Great video!
@BigDogChannel
@BigDogChannel 2 года назад
I own a set of 4 of the 24” Bessey’s, and I just picked up a pair of Bremen 48’s. The Bremens are every bit as good as the Bessey’s. As shocking as that sounds, there is no question about it. They are very well built and worked perfectly for me on my last big glue up. I am going to go back to HF and pick up 4 of the 24’s as well. You can never have too many clamps and at half the price of the Bessey’s its a no brainer.
@michaellenorgant5079
@michaellenorgant5079 2 года назад
I've been holding off on getting these style of clamps because of the price. I see a trip to harbor frieght in my future. Thanks your your input.
@calebsanz9826
@calebsanz9826 2 года назад
Same here big dog. These Bremen clamps are fantastic…and if you were lucky you were able to get 20% off during labor day. I walked out with 2 for $54. STEAL!!
@WaterN2WineCreations
@WaterN2WineCreations 2 года назад
Thank you for an honest unbiased review. I would rather do without than “save” on something that is junk. Paying $200+ for a set of 4 clamps was out of the reach of my budget. Sounds like harbor freight to the rescue with a set of good parallel clamps. 👍🏼
@MateyBoy82
@MateyBoy82 Год назад
I love how much detail you go into and you are fair with your judging. Also, the drop test was a great shout! I wish we had this much choice at this price point in the UK.
@arthurjacobs5579
@arthurjacobs5579 11 месяцев назад
I have Bessey and Jet clamps, both great clamps. I recently had a broken jaw on my Bessey clamp, I contacted Bessey, and they sent me a replacement clamp. Outstanding customer service!!!
@HondaCrf450r.
@HondaCrf450r. 2 месяца назад
Bessey makes some higher quality ones but they aren't cheap depending on the size you get!
@arthurjacobs5579
@arthurjacobs5579 2 месяца назад
@@HondaCrf450r.you’re right, 2:27 they are all expensive. I started buying pony pipe clamps and then bought others on sale. Overall, pipe clamps still work great!
@Mike-ou5ps
@Mike-ou5ps 2 года назад
Howdy Mr. 731... I stopped my entire router table build just to watch this video . If ya don't recall, I'm the one who kept buggin ya to do a tool review on the Bora clamps. I am very excited and pleased that ya did these tests. I am not to to surprised on the outcome of the Bora but at the same time a bit puzzled as to why Izzy uses them? Perhaps he just needed some extra clamps at the time, I dunno. Ironically...speaking of "needing clamps". I needed some a few weeks back and being on a VERY low budget, Hello Harbor Freight. So, being in the need, I got some just to complete my build. I agree, they worked great and I got mine for around $20 bucks each cause they were on sale to members. 2 clamps for less than the cost of a single Bessey clamp. SCORE!!!! Thanks for taking the time and money to do these tests. Just so you know, it """IS""" appreciated. I've got another idea for ya for another tool review, but based solely on Harbor Freight. How bout Harbor Freight bandsaws, drill presses (both bench top and stand alone) and perhaps toss in their Jointer too. Compare them to the Wen and Ryobi. I know you've done tool reviews on the Wen's...but I don't think you've done a side by side with other "budget" tools of those categories. Just a thought Keep up the good work...I'm getting back to my router table build now.
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 2 года назад
Thanks for the idea Mike! Keep us posted on the router build! 👊🏻
@devinbraun1852
@devinbraun1852 2 года назад
I picked up a few Bessey clamps about a month ago for $44 each (not a whole lot more than Harbor Freight). I’ve used them a bunch since then and I’m very pleased.
@markcopenhaver5256
@markcopenhaver5256 2 года назад
Matt, I own Bessy and Jorgensen Tradesman clamps along with Bessy parallel clamps. By far you demonstrated a very value added presentation on which clamps to consider and which to avoid. As a woodworker you can never have enough clamps and they are expensive. However, as every woodworker knows, if you buy cheap you always buy twice. In the case of the Bremen clamps perhaps not. Another detail that I believe you may have been the only one that I know to address is the clamp flexion. There is nothing more frustrating than doing a panel glue up only to find that the clamping pressure applied warped the panel. Excellent tip there! You have offered the best detailed report on clamps that I have run across in a long while. This will definitely have an influence on what I buy and how much I am spending. Thank you for your service to the industry.
@jonz01
@jonz01 2 года назад
I'm glad you did this! Being a woodworker on a shoestring budget, I was glad to see that the Harbor Freight clamps did so well. I also did some searching on the Ehoma brand and found that they in fact have a 1 year warranty.
@averagemodeler
@averagemodeler Год назад
Me too
@paulruud5804
@paulruud5804 2 года назад
Very helpful video to me. I have been doubtful about parallel clamps (claims and cost) and this convinced me that I am going to be happiest sticking with my pipe clamps. Thanks for a clear and thorough review!
@tobytootimes7639
@tobytootimes7639 2 года назад
I will never give up my pipe clamps. It’s what I watched my dad use when I was a kid and it’s what my daughter watches me use. Hopefully she’ll carry on the tradition.
@Rossco242424
@Rossco242424 2 года назад
Agreed! Bessey pipe clamps.
@gnshp8167
@gnshp8167 2 года назад
That Projekt Farm thumbnail 👌Fantastic video as always
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 2 года назад
👊🏻
@rikityrik
@rikityrik 2 года назад
Very impressive!👍
@scottgloster3601
@scottgloster3601 Год назад
The Wood Whisperer just called you out. They're not supposed to be square. When you tighten the clamp the bar flexes and that allows the faces to square up.
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks Год назад
Yep, I was wrong on that part. Only one man ever lived a perfect life and they crucified Him. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@miserablesod1
@miserablesod1 2 года назад
Just picked up 4 Bessey 800mm parallel clamps - direct from Bessey UK - for about £26 each. They have numerous special offers on at the moment...
@MrMcTavishOBS
@MrMcTavishOBS 2 года назад
Your thumbnail picture tricked me. I thought “oh wow project farm has a new video.” Trickery of the highest order.
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 2 года назад
lol
@1averageamerican
@1averageamerican 2 года назад
I have several Bora clamps and think they're great. I've never had a problem using or adjusting them. I must point out that they are supposed to start out of square and square up as you apply pressure. I also like that you can remove the jaw, turn it around and use the clamp as a spreader. I'm sure some of those other clamps have this feature as well. As far as those little feet go, the longer clamps come with 2 but I never used them.(have about 20 of them piled in a drawer somewhere) Funny thing is I had some Bessy clamps and hated them for many of the same reasons you didn't like the Boras. I guess no one product can please everyone. Thanks for doing this comparison.
@CosmicCharlie
@CosmicCharlie 2 года назад
I'm just gonna say it. Harbour freight has 1 of the best f-style clamps out there and for the price they are definitely worth checking out
@stephenburrows8909
@stephenburrows8909 Год назад
Thank you for this review! When I first got into woodworking (many, many years ago) I got two Bessey 40" Parallel Clamps (PC) for a specific project. They were mid-priced but came with a good recommendations, they work very well and I was impressed with them. Fast forward to last November (2021) as I was getting my shop back up and running, after 15 years, not only did I need some longer clamps (PC 50") but smaller 24" PC for some small tabletops I was making. I was in Lowe's and they had the Jorgensen 24" PC were on sale for $29.98 (normally $50) each! Well, the Bessey's were right at $50 each so I got 6 of the Jorgensen's. For me they have worked very well through the 8-side tabletops and dozens of cutting boards. So was back a Lowe's last week and they are back on sale for $29.98 so I got 6 more. They also had the 50" Jorgensen PC on sale for $39.98 each but, I'm sticking with the Bessey's for anything longer.
@fredcheung1940
@fredcheung1940 4 месяца назад
When I use my Bessey clamps, I drape wax paper strips over the rails to eliminate having to remove glue drips later. It has been effective so far.
@johnh9962
@johnh9962 2 года назад
I use cheap painter's tape on the clamp bars under the work piece. Glue sticks to the tape and is simple to remove.
@NicksMind21
@NicksMind21 2 года назад
You missed the allen key in the handle option, that is great!... Bessey all day everyday... But might pick up Bremens as I have broke a Bessey before with normal hand clamping. HomeDepot took care of me.
@BroRiv
@BroRiv 2 года назад
I'm a YUGE Bessey fan. I glue up tons of Cutting boards and they perform very well. They also have a built in screw in the handle to give you that extra umph if needed (using a T handle Allen wrench). Soaking dried glue on the ribbed rails in white vinegar is the simplest way to remove the glue. Lots of videos on that. Excellent comparison test.
@rickpouley2857
@rickpouley2857 Год назад
Hello to the group.. I have an up-date about my post about the Harbor Freight Clamps... I purchased 6 clamps from Harbor Freight, and I was really impressed with the way that they have worked. After about 3 weeks of using the clamps, I had two of the 6 clamps fail. Harbor Freight changed them out without any issues, so I was happy and just figured maybe it was operator error on my part. Two weeks later, I had three more of the clamps fail again. 1 of the clamps that failed was the replacement clamp. I took them back on Saturday and they again replaced them. Now, I am afraid to use these clamps anymore due to the failure rate of these clamps. I was lucky that I had Jorgensen clamps in the shop. So, now... I have to rate the Harbor Freight Clamps, a No Buy....
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks Год назад
Thanks for sharing!
@ryanm2214
@ryanm2214 2 года назад
Thanks for this! I am a HF fan, usually on tight budget, but was hesitant to save on clamps. This helped!
@warrenwerks
@warrenwerks Год назад
Good comparison. I have a bunch of the Jorgensens and actually like that they slide quick. They don’t get hung up in stressful glue ups. Also something about the orange has always just seamed right for clamps in my head for whatever reason, totally irrelevant to functionality but I just like the way they look!
@notajp
@notajp Год назад
Personally, I really like my Jorgensens. I also appreciate how easily they slide when I’m doing quick glue ups. That said, I’ll likely go with the Horror Fright clamps if I buy any more. I have both the Bessey and HF bar clamps, and for the price, the HF work just as well for a lot less money. Plus, I like the rubber grip handles better than the slick wood on the Bessey. HF have really been upping their game lately.
@matthewdoering3493
@matthewdoering3493 2 года назад
I bought the Bora a few years ago. I was not happy with the jaws not being parallel so I contacted customer service. I no longer have their direct response but is was along the lines of "this is by design so that when pressure is applied the clamps will be parallel". My experience is that by the time I have applied enough pressure for most clamping operations the heads are parallel but if working with thin wood the pressure I would apply is not enough for that. Having said all that while I have a good supply of the Bora I will probably be adding more clamps in the future (shock!), just not Bora.
@robtowne5905
@robtowne5905 2 года назад
thank you for the comparison. I see a lot of folks talking about HF Brand and how well they do, I am sold based on seeing it in action here.
@tom.coomes
@tom.coomes 2 года назад
Thank you, been on the fence with the HF clamps. They have been making steps towards more quality tools, look at the Icon line, they are going after the tool trucks with them.
@wittworks
@wittworks 2 года назад
Great viddy! No bias! I'm a #BESSEYBOY, but I think if I were getting started today, that HF is a great value. That trigger on the jet is cool. But not for $80 or their wonderful shipping practices. Thanks for doing all those tests so I don't have to! 🤜💥🤛
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 2 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@dan__________________
@dan__________________ 2 года назад
The fixed jaw is supposed to be slightly out of square leaning towards the other jaw. This is because there is some deflection when the clamp is under load.
@mwaynem
@mwaynem 2 года назад
I don't currently own any parallel clamps but I am in the market for them. I do have several bar clamps about equal numbers of both harbor freight and besse. Both get the job done.
@leewitherington4415
@leewitherington4415 2 года назад
Just picked up the Harbor Freight 24" clamp. Thanks for the recommendation
@lesterhayes5777
@lesterhayes5777 2 года назад
I have Jet and Bessey . My Bessey stopped holding pressure . No problems with the jet. I have more Bessey but Jets my favorite.
@mike480277
@mike480277 Год назад
I agree! I haveJet and Bessey and I always grab the Jets first.
@brianthornton942
@brianthornton942 2 года назад
I got 4 bora clamps for xmas last year........and you're right, I really dislike them. I think I'm gonna go for the quick hit of HF/Bremen clamps until I win the powerball and then buy all Bessey :D
@bradouellette6558
@bradouellette6558 2 года назад
I have Bora and Beesey , let’s just say the Beesey sit and collect more dust than the Bora , and forget about the Beesey J style clamp , thin slick handles really suck
@ravenheart1439
@ravenheart1439 11 месяцев назад
Yeah that harbour freight clamp a bunch recommended it, one guy took it apart cause 1 failed out of 4 after 6 months of use took it back after reassembly and got a new one no questions asked, life time warranty...I looked at em but like everything at harbor I don't trust, but I trust the clamp now lol and hands down one of the best clamps out there...crazy..so I'll save a TON of money on clamps now at least lol...thanx Matt. You are the man no doubt...
@quadsquadracingable
@quadsquadracingable 2 года назад
Just bought 4 of each size of the bremen. Very satisfied and will be adding to the collection. I definitely want a 36" option just because I'm that guy! Lol
@jamesbannerman4804
@jamesbannerman4804 5 месяцев назад
I have some Harbor Frieght 48" bar clamps in my shop. Got them on sale for $20 each. By far the best clamps for large panels, specially for that sale price. True story.
@elizabethgearhart
@elizabethgearhart 11 месяцев назад
I definitely appreciate your comparison videos. I’ve always been into furniture flipping and renovating. Which doesn’t require a lot of tools. But recently I’ve expanded my interest. Which also means I need to start collecting the appropriate tools. You do a good job about comparing. So I don’t waste time and money. Which is good because I don’t have a lot of either! 😂 Thank you so much!
@montelott8570
@montelott8570 2 года назад
Good comparison; at this point in my life I'll stick to my bar & pipe clamps, a little heavy but durable and good pressure if needed.
@bhough410
@bhough410 Год назад
Just bought my first set of parallel clamps about the time you posted your comment for a batch of about a dozen (mostly chevron pattern) cutting boards. Parallel clamps outperformed the 1/2" bar clamps I already had (both bessey) by a considerable margin, maybe 3/4 bars would've performed better. The parallels took much less planing to flatten out the cutting boards after glue up. A couple of the cutting boards glued up in the bar clamps ended up having different wood species joints well out of line from each other, guessing the reason was a combo of being location of the bar clamp pressure causing an out of square glue up & requiring more planing accentuating the issue.
@steffendetrick9403
@steffendetrick9403 2 года назад
I’m not really a harbor freight guy and don’t really use any of their tools with the exception of the Breman quick grip clamps which are right on par with the DeWalt clamps which I was really surprised how good the quality was for the price because the Pittsburgh clamps are trash. So I’ll definitely have to check these out don’t think I saw them at my HF.
@spencerjw
@spencerjw 2 года назад
I have 2 sets (4) of the Jett 36" parallel clamps that I got on sale, which they have often. I love them but I didn't even know they were as good as they performed in your review, so thank you for making me feel better about buying them. That being said, they are pricey, but if you find them on sale, which happens often, they are a great buy!
@joejtrip
@joejtrip Год назад
Good comparison. I have Jet and Bessey clamps. I prefer the Bessey because the clutch on the Jet causes sticking when moving the head into position before turning the screw... a simple upward pressure on the Bessey allows it to slide easily into clamping position.. Sliding onto my hand like you show is not an issue. I don't use the clamps in that position. Another observation - Dropping the Jet causes the handle cap to fly off .
@michaelvasquez6895
@michaelvasquez6895 2 года назад
As a entry level woodworker, thank you for this information. This type of information allows me to be more wise with my money and saves on frustration. As a new viewer, I have to ask, what's with the handcuffs in the back?
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 2 года назад
I’m a former Arkansas State Trooper. Video about that here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gZ7g7MTc7-Y.html
@michaelvasquez6895
@michaelvasquez6895 2 года назад
@@731Woodworks thank you for your service! Back the blue!
@lanemcook1
@lanemcook1 2 года назад
I agree on the Bora. I have 4 of them and one completely failed to hold pressure.
@susantipsyhealy7655
@susantipsyhealy7655 2 года назад
Thank you for this video. And great timing. I never realized there is so many different brands. So I was confused by whichever would be a good choice. I learned much.
@rogerrathbun444
@rogerrathbun444 9 месяцев назад
I've been using wax paper and lay it across my clamps. It works great . It protects my clamps from the glue and it really doesn't stick to the wood or glue
@davidgrissom8448
@davidgrissom8448 Год назад
i think the thing you hate about Jorgensen clamps is one of the things i love about them. I love how they slide open unassisted. i store all my clamps fully open so i can grab them and clamp whatever without having to open them. the slick bars are way easier to clean. just my opinion.
@stevenvachon9745
@stevenvachon9745 2 года назад
I've used Bessy clamps for about 30 plus years on a professional level and the first version had about a third break on me. The second version not so much.(they are on the third version now). The Jorgensen clamps I have never failed (the older wood handled ones) so when it came time to buy more, I went with the Jorgensen. Just FYI, the smooth bar makes the quicker to slide in and out and won't "drop" unless you don't push the handle in when storing vertically. They changed the thread to be finer on the newer ones so you can get much more torque plus they lengthened it. The only thing that I really like about the bessey clamps is that you can get joiners that you can join the bars back to back for those occasional long clamp ups.
@edv59
@edv59 2 года назад
Thanks for doing this test, been on the fence about the HF clamp! Will give them a try
@KingsFineWoodworking
@KingsFineWoodworking 2 года назад
Those clamps are actually supposed to be out of square that way. (At least all but the last 2) That’s engineered into the clamp on purpose. As the clamp is tightened and approaches its peak pressure, you will notice a curve, or deflection in the bar. This deflection coupled with the “squareness” will result in a perfectly square clamp under load. It’s impossible to avoid bar curvature under pressure. So what looks like out-of-squareness, is actually necessary. Except those last two. They are out of square in the wrong way. Those are trash.
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 2 года назад
Thank you James!
@gerardbroussard6336
@gerardbroussard6336 2 года назад
I have Bora clamps and it’s great to know that the “out-of-squareness” is normal. Aside from sticky sliding motion, I’m very satisfied with the clamps although I’m now tempted to sample the HF Bremens.
@csimet
@csimet 2 года назад
Not only that, but I suspect the more out of square they are unloaded indicates the more deflection they have when loaded and why it is built into them. The "cheaper" ones may deflect more. As long as they self-correct, I'm good with any of them.
@rickpouley2857
@rickpouley2857 2 года назад
After using both the Jorgensen and the Harbor Freight clamps, I have to agree with you about these clamps. I hadn't issues glueing up cutting boards with the Jorgensens, but after purchasing the Harbor Freight clamps, I have glued about 35 cutting boards with them and no issues at all. So, I will be purchasing and use the Harbor Freight clamps. Loved your review!!
@craigfehr411
@craigfehr411 Год назад
You should watch the parallel clamp review video by the Wood Whisperer. Specifically he talks about how the jaws are intentionally angled inwards to compensate for bar deflection
@design8studio
@design8studio 2 года назад
Awesome video. Super helpful. Thank you!
@anthonyreyes6642
@anthonyreyes6642 2 года назад
Great job Matt I love comparison videos, makes life much easier for everyone
@mcmathwoodworks
@mcmathwoodworks 2 года назад
Despite the fact that you forgot to say that this is Matt “Clamps” Outlaw, this was a great review! Lol! I’m not currently in the market for clamps, but I had to click because I really appreciate how thorough you are in your reviews! Thank you so much for spending your time and money to do this for us!
@robertkerby2581
@robertkerby2581 2 года назад
You did an excellent job of comparing the Parallel Clamps! I have been a fan and very satisfied (happy) user of the Bessey Brand "F" Style Clamps for many years. I am happy to learn that the Bessey Parallel Clamps are a top performing brand, too! Well done, and please keep bring us more!
@alanr745
@alanr745 2 года назад
Well, that was helpful. I did not know about HF's, but that looks promising! Great test and review! Thank you!
@briandw5416
@briandw5416 2 года назад
Just an FYI on the HF clamps,went today to pick them up but were not on the shelf. Asked an associate if they had any in back,he had to take them out of a box,and they both had 2 blocks each(my guess is the employees take them off and toss then to remove the plastic from the bar before stocking them) he also handed me 2 extra clamp covers( 1 per clamp i guess)he said were laying in the box.
@briandw5416
@briandw5416 2 года назад
i posted pics on the FB group
@AlbeTurner
@AlbeTurner 2 года назад
I threw one of my HF Bremens out on the driveway. It jumped up and offered me a 20% parking lot sale discount. Man I’m sold..
@csimet
@csimet 2 года назад
Finally, a reason to go back to HF after all these years. I bought a bunch of their cheap shorter f-clamps, just for general abuse use and they work well enough for that. I've been looking for some parallel clamps and the sticker shock was preventing me from doing so. Looks like the Bremens are worthy of a serious purchase.
@scottadams2624
@scottadams2624 2 года назад
Loved the video, Matt. Great job, great perspective.
@MrJohnnyboyrebel
@MrJohnnyboyrebel 2 года назад
I have two 48” Bessey clamps and have nothing but trouble with them since day 1. The movable jaw is very stubborn to move. The “threads” along the clamping bar are nearly impossible to remove dried glue. In contrast, my “go to” parallel clamps are the Irwin. The jaws slide easily and the bars clean off using a screwdriver and brass brush. I have not tried the Bremen, but after seeing this video, you can bet that my next purchase will be a couple of Bremen clamps.
@profcah
@profcah 2 года назад
Thanks Matt. Great review and I am going to get some HF clamps. Bessey is still a great clamp but I am still on a budget.
@crewman90
@crewman90 Год назад
Thanks for the recommendation! Picked up 2 Bremen with the New Years 25% off coupon…can’t go wrong with ~$26 per parallel clamp!
@d_townnigil
@d_townnigil Год назад
Really like the detail in your videos. Amateur DIY wood worker and have used a lot of your videos to get the best options for what I need.
@4321Woodworking
@4321Woodworking 2 года назад
Fantastic video!!! I think those HF clamps are in my future especially if they hit an ITC sale for a bit more off!! I'll keep an eye on the Bessey clamps for a sale as well.
@markelonich6783
@markelonich6783 2 года назад
I appreciate your work, I have Bessey and Irwin, and I actually like the way the Irwin clamp slides all the way to the end. When I glue up I like how easy it slides compared to the Bessey. I'll probably stay away from the Harbor Freight, didn't like how the bins are compared to bolts and or rivets on the others. Thanks again.
@gregwyatt6534
@gregwyatt6534 Год назад
In Australia we can't get most of these. I have Boras and Jet (but they are green and sold under the Torquata brand). Jets are my favourite and interestingly are less expensive than the Besseys which are generally considered the best.
@Shamustodd1
@Shamustodd1 Год назад
I have 5 of the 48" Bremens that I use for gluing up 36 - 40 in. panels and am very happy with the results. Slowly getting away from my old pipe clamps and really liking the Bremens. In all the side by side reviews I've seen or read the Bremens always perform very well against their peers. They may be a budget brand but they perform in the upper half of the class. You're getting a quality clamp and the price discount is just an obvious bonus.
@starseeddeluxe
@starseeddeluxe Год назад
I have a blue plastic circuit board clamp, it sits on a desk, and you clamp it together to hold onto a large circuit board so you can do repairs. The blue plastic was fine, until a few years went by, and something happened where the plastic was exposed to a little bit of UV light (maybe from sitting near a window) and it became so brittle that I dropped the small clamp jig on the carpet and the blue plastic shattered. I'm wondering what the long term durability of the plastic is on the Harbor Freight clamps, because clearly there are different grades of plastic. Some plastic literally falls apart in a few years, apparently...
@davidlong5400
@davidlong5400 2 года назад
Really nice review! Been looking for better clamps. Fast pace overall but explanation and overview at end was best part flashing back of products! Surprised harbor freight came in so high! Thanks for going through all that trouble to help everyone else out!!
@jaredmartin6164
@jaredmartin6164 Год назад
Hey David. I have a terrible experience with bora. Would never buy again. Big fan of the jet. Pony Jorgensen and bessey.
@steffendetrick
@steffendetrick Год назад
Parallel clamps are designed to take deflection, They are intentionally out of square to absorb that pressure, they have different tolerance. But all of them become square once pressure is applied.
@louiecal4480
@louiecal4480 Год назад
“ in this video we are going to compare 731 woodworks RU-vid thumbnails to project farms”
@davidsmalley9336
@davidsmalley9336 2 года назад
Great video and test Matt, as far as parallel clamps I only own Bessie and recently the Bremen from Harbor freight, and after seeing your results and what I’ve put them through, (the bremen brand) is just as good.. So if you’re just starting woodworking, or been doing it a few years, and whether or not you’re on a budget, I think most people will be happy with them. 🤗👍
@no_handle_required
@no_handle_required 7 месяцев назад
Agreed on HB clamps. Especially when they're on sale. Crazy inexpensive, but very good quality.
@REDCRANE1944
@REDCRANE1944 6 месяцев назад
Thanks! I’ve been shopping for these clamps and leaning towards the HF brand due to price. I appreciate your report.
@kmslatton
@kmslatton 2 года назад
Thanks for this video. I was considering the HF clamp but just wasn't sure. I think for my needs that is the winner.
@matthewransom6469
@matthewransom6469 2 года назад
Thank you for that test. I've been wandering about the harbor freight one. I have a couple Jorgensen and bessey. I love my bessey clamps. The Jorgensen does good for me but on smaller pieces. Larger pieces tend to warp during glue up with the Jorgensen. Thanks to your test I might just try out the harbor freight ones. Thank you
@lincolndickerson1293
@lincolndickerson1293 2 года назад
Great review, thanks for the information. For what it is worth, I like when there is a summary table at the end of reviews like this. It can be super simple with 1 to 10 for each test and the price. Or super detailed with exact values and with superior performance and failures color highlighted…
@MrJohnnyboyrebel
@MrJohnnyboyrebel 2 года назад
I agree with you. However, since his tests were mostly subjective, there was very little data to compare. He didn’t measure the clamping force used on his deflection tests, so those results were non-conclusive. I prefer Project Farm’s testing techniques where objective numbers are accumulated and charted.
@lincolndickerson1293
@lincolndickerson1293 2 года назад
@@MrJohnnyboyrebel I agree with you on the subjectiveness of the tests. Even in that there was information gathered and opinions expressed, even if there needs to be a disclaimer about the testing methods, that would be nice to have in a summary at the end.
@731Woodworks
@731Woodworks 2 года назад
I put the summary table on my website www.731woodworks.com/731-blog/bestparallelclamp
@lincolndickerson1293
@lincolndickerson1293 2 года назад
@@731Woodworks You rock!
@michaelhudsondrums-mhd
@michaelhudsondrums-mhd 2 года назад
Amazing thanks for taking the time
@Coreyrkennedy
@Coreyrkennedy 2 года назад
Great video! Thanks for doing this
@user-lg2jm9zg6l
@user-lg2jm9zg6l Год назад
Ehoma, who doesn't have a huge North American presence, manufactures the Semble brand for Woodpeckers. Oh, and you missed the only real difference between the two - the Semble has a handle that pivots out 90°, making it easier to torque down.
@christopherungaro8454
@christopherungaro8454 2 года назад
Interesting video. The only thing I care about is price and parallel clamping. I have a bunch of Bora’s and agree with you. They’re hard to move and they don’t really clamp parallel. It’s hard to glue up flat cutting boards, panels and such. I wish I saw this video before I spent money on them!
@rtgray7
@rtgray7 2 года назад
Great news Matt! Thanks for this. I have almost bought 48" Besseys several times but always felt they were over priced. Great to see the competition from Bremen.
@pawpawstew
@pawpawstew 2 года назад
That's a great rundown. Now here's a thought for a follow up video. How do parallel clamps like these stack up against pipe clamps and how to various pipe clamps stack up against each other?
@rykastner
@rykastner Год назад
Great review. Found this after looking for reviews of the HF clamps. I have two 50” Bessey clamps and a barrage of Jet clamps. But I bought them before a few years ago they got crazy expensive. Acme had a buy one get one free Black Friday special back then. Still a big fan of the Jet clamps but am also impressed that HF is starting to step up their game. I’ve bought some impact hex head drivers and their Hercules bench grinder in the past year and been very happy with both.
@danielb5400
@danielb5400 Год назад
I bought 5 48" Jogensons bc they were on sale for 39.99. I haven't had any issues with glue ups so far. As of now since they are on sale for a low price I'd say they are the best for price and quality.
@littlepoolefam3
@littlepoolefam3 Год назад
Wow...I am so glad I subscribed to your channel. I have been wanting to see a comparison of these clamps for a long time. Knowing that HF's clamps perform that well is a comfort for me, as my budget right now is small.
@BMOORE344
@BMOORE344 2 года назад
I didn't think the harbor freight would score so high, interesting
@clintlockhart433
@clintlockhart433 2 года назад
Thank you so much for doing this video! The HF performance did surprise me, but shouldn’t have since I have a few of these and haven’t been unsatisfied.
@woodworksbygrampies1284
@woodworksbygrampies1284 2 года назад
Hola! 🖐Really good video, I appreciate all the effort you put into it especially the out of pocket expense for you in buying the many clamps. I found it very informative and has definitely helped me narrow down my options for when it's time for me to make a purchase. Keep up the good work sir! 👍Take care and have a good one, Adios!👊
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Год назад
Great review. I bought a set of Jet clamps (on sale) after reading many years ago in a woodworking magazine that they were the most parallel brand in the test. Good to see similar results here. I checked mine on arrival and one was unacceptably out of square. I called Jet, they requested some info and pictures, and they sent me a new clamp, so great warranty support. Some variation is inevitable in manufacturing, and sometimes I wonder if a brand tested poorly because of variation, or even if it performed well because of variation. I wish I could get some parallel clamps with jaws exactly 90° to the bar. For most of the work I do, if I need to apply a lot of pressure to close a gap, that means I should have jointed my boards better.
@robertpenn2152
@robertpenn2152 Год назад
Parallel clamps are specifically engineered this way to account for bar deflection. Zero clamps should come perfectly 90* out of the box. If they do, they are cheap and/or not engineered correctly. There should absolutely be an angle to it, so that when pressure is applied, it comes into parallel.
@TheWeekendWoodshop
@TheWeekendWoodshop 2 года назад
Most of my tools in the shop come from Harbor Freight because of budget constraints. I am very glad to see that HF has an affordable option now in the clamp game that performs well. Thanks for the test Matt!
@terrmaso
@terrmaso Год назад
I recently got very lucky and purchased an older model of the Bessey at an amazing price, 8 clamps for $75. 2 of each 12", 24", 30" and 50". When I saw your review video, I was very curious as to how the Breman would compare and was pleasantly suprised. HF has been stepping up its game as of late. Looks like I will be adding a few more HF clamps to my line up. Thanks for the review 👍
@chadwilderdyke1275
@chadwilderdyke1275 2 года назад
I bought the Bremen when they came out and I am very happy with them. I also like their squeeze clamps too. Very affordable and I have done several glue ups and they have come out straight. Great clamps for the money.
@claudestewart5465
@claudestewart5465 Год назад
I've been using Bessy for years and I've always liked them. I have some Jorgensen's too. They work well but I always grab the Bessy.
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