@@dingo4458 i said foreshadowing. this entire show we have seen bits and pieces of s5 and we haven't gotten context for it until the final moments of s4. the whole show is loops that repeat. dolores has been simulating versions of events to find a world where hosts and humans dont destroy each other. the final game willam is in , the game that ford mentioned is that a variant of william needs to travel to the sublime. "it begins where you ends and ends where you begin" - human william needs to choose to become a host and enter the sublime to trigger the correct variant of reality where the hosts and humans coexist. one of the final scenes of the show was probably going to be benard with ford in the sublime "at the place where the waves conspire, that they return , a place where maybe you and I will meet again" somehow ford has been aware of everything.
@@BrianStCyr-zw8tjDamn bro you are wicked smart and on your shit, like I watched this show season by season (knowing there was plenty that flew over my head the first, and likely would be even the second time around), because the story is a “trail of breadcrumbs” that don’t really add up until you’re near the finish line, but god damn would that have been a satisfying line to cross had HBO not pulled the plug. Damn you Covid-19 😢
We actually found out. The system tried to reprogram William and that’s why he thought he could be a host the whole time. “The game begins where it ends, ends where it begins” like Ford told him in season 2. It began in an institution and it ended there.
@@TheNocturna001 I think Ford said „The game begins where you end, and ends where you began.“ But anyway, please elaborate. I don’t quite get your comment? What System tried to reprogram William? Rehoboam?
@@TheNocturna001 we never found out. we have no explanation for the s2 post credits scene. also the MIB never wins ford's final game, we never see him pass through the door
In this game, you have to make it back out. In this game, you must find the door. Congratulations William. This game is meant for you. The game begins where you end. It ends where you began." - In season 1 we see a William who has never been himself before, finding himself in the park with Dolores. Then that William pretends to be the good guy in the outside world (like the charity he has to help sick people), but inside the park we see who he really is “the black hat”. In the beginning we have no idea about the program for outliers but later we see that the idea for that program is to suppress those who don’t follow the established order. We can assume that the system classified William as an outlier too because he was declared dead after entering the asylum (as per the conversation between Bernard and Stubbs). The maze is a game for hosts which helps them with gaining consciousness. What we see with Dolores is her going full circle. She was programmed to see the beauty, but she starts to question that as she is becoming “something that is truly free” (like Ford said in S2, episode 10), then when she dies she says: “There is ugliness in this world, disarray, I choose to see the beauty.” It’s another analogy with “the game begins where you end, ends where you begin”. The game itself is for him (William) to find himself because this game was meant for him. He reaches the question which started his journey “Am I me?” And that’s why Dolores says “Welcome to the end of the game”. That’s William going full circle. I think the door is symbolic in a way - more like “a way out”. Also, I think what we see in season 2 episode 10 (the scene with William and his daughter) is William unconscious as we see him when the episode ends - his idea of the afterlife in a way. He believes he is being “cloned” because he doesn’t feel like himself throughout his life. That was tiring to write, but this is how I see it. Edit: We can assume, I guess, that Rehoboam has done this same program for outliers before with William. And season 3 was his second time.
@@TheAngous I think they actually made it worse... 😐 Host in Black is not William, despite what he thinks. He's more like a reflection of what William saw himself as at the end. William himself never confronted and resolved his issues regarding his daughter OR Dolores. Massive waste of character arc IMO. If there was a season 5, I would home for the return of Jimmi Simpson as young William to try and salvage the character.
@@powerfrenzy but that's the point of his character... he's not able to change, he's not able to solve his issues... just like the human kind, which he represents. He just believes that our race serves chaos and he wants the hosts to get extinct. That's exactly what he obtained in season 4, by manipulating his host replica. In the end he felt like he won. Dolores' challenge in the sublime should be trying to fix him/humanity
