These detailed reviews make all the difference. Particularly nowadays when we are purchasing online more and more and not able to view the product in person. Kudus to you guys. Always prefer purchase from from you in return for your efforts.
I've been camping with all kinds of shitty mats for 30 years now. About 3 years ago I bought this exact Exped mat from Snowy's for a 6 week trip to Cape York and I couldn't be happier. I'm a heavy guy and It was comfy and easy to pack up as we pretty much moved camp daily. I have since also purchased this exact Zempire mat for the Mrs (she didn't come to the Cape) but haven't actually used It yet but I can say that laying on them side by side, I can't feel any huge difference. Anyway, I don't think you can go wrong with any of these types of mats and I will never use any other type of mattress again for camping, they are that good. (IMHO) Happy camping guys :)
I've had my Zempire Monstamat for over a year, very comfortable and warm when camping however packed down its really quite large, bigger than my 4P tent packed down. I'd still recommend it based on price, reliability and comfort but the pack size may be an issue if you're short on space.
I plan on using one of these for motorcycle camping where weight is less of an issue than size. I've narrowed my choices down to the Exped or the Sea to Summit but I'm leaning toward the Sea to Summit as it's a bit smaller. I've had enough of the Thermarest X-Lite it's small but brutal to sleep on. One of the best gear reviews ever. They are not paying you enough.
Bought the Exped Megamat 10LXW from you guys a few years ago... Amazing mat, I only wish I’d got one sooner. Hands down most comfortable mat I’ve ever tried... not the cheapest but worth every cent. It’s better than many bed mattresses...
Great review. You guys are the best when it comes to demos and reviews. Please keep it up, I will continue to buy from Snowy's because of this sort of service. I don't believe it is worth skimping on a mattress, but I suppose it comes down to how much you are going to be using it. Exped for me. Just brilliant. So comfortable. I have it in my swag and camp trailer. Best night sleeps. Thanks again.
Thanks for the compliments, N Noddy. I agree, the Exped is a comfortable mat, I have an old version without the square sides which I still find comfortable, and the newer one's are even better. For those who's budget doesn't extend as far as the Exped, the Zempire Monstamat will still provide a great night of sleep. ~ Ben
Great review, really helpful! One tip though about the Sea to Summit, you can turn around the middle valve and make it ‘deflate only’. Just so you know 😊
Yep, you can! Important to note, the valve flap isn't supposed to be removed - alot of people try to do it to push it in from the other side instead of twisting the whole plug - result in the centre 'pin' stretching out and the valve flap not sealing properly, or coming loose. You can also just gently push the valve flap for fine tuning firmness aswell - similar to an Exped. Thanks for your comment! ~ Lauren
With regards to the Zempire mat you can let out some air to adjust it to your preference, well worth the money and speaking from experience their customer service is second to none.
Thanks heaps for the comparison, Ben. We're on our second double, switched brand each time, this one is getting tired, your review will help us choose something with a longer lifespan. For your viewers, we've found we get better inflation when camping by storing the mat fully unrolled and inflated at home. Only roll up to do a trip.
I hope the info helps, David. I too store my mats as inflated as possible when at home as it makes, as you mention, inflation much quicker at the campsite. I actually keep mine rolled loosely inside my swag, so not completely inflated, but not rolled tight either. ~ Ben
Good demo but for a newbie like myself, I would have preferred to see how exactly to inflate and deflate the mattress and an approximate price range would be helpful.
Prices are always changing so we don't like to mention this in the video but you can see all our pricing on our website if you follow the links in the description. The inflate/deflate process is much the same for all of these mats, check out this video for more info - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SvJYkyWdEZ0.html. ~ Ben
For anyone who can't get their mat back in the bag, no matter how they try; I have an Outwell Dreamboat 16, & it's 83cmx200cm, the thing is a monster. So because I quickly realised I had Buckley's of getting it back in its case once trying, I just bought a cheap Oztrail canvas duffle in XL, & it does the job beautifully. I even got another one for my tent! ^_^
Good one, Mystery LovesCompany. The OZtrail bags are a durable and incredibly versatile item for all sorts of camping storage and transport needs, they make a whole range of canvas storage options at affordable prices. ~ Ben
Bloody legend, so much packed in that video, so helpful! I think you missed the fact that the S2S has a reversible valve as well. I came here for the S2S and I reckon I'll go for the Zempire, it's half the price and I think I prefer the denser foam thing. Thanks heaps for that video!
Thanks for the kudos, Jonathon. I did forget about the reversible valve on the STS mats, it can simply be flipped over for inflate/deflate options. Seem I have down-sold you into a cheaper mat... don't tell my boss ;). The Zempire mats are top value for money, if a little bit of extra bulk doesn't bother you then you'll be more than happy with them. ~ Ben
We recently picked up very the similar Wanderer Premium 4x4, I didn’t see any of these other mattresses in our local store but they have been fantastic, we used to sleep on 170mm of mattress, 70mm kings big daddy deluxe foam and then 100mm kings self inflating mattress. I’m around 125kg and the 100mm wanderer is far superior in comfort and size. I think one of the best features of any type of mattress like these is the outer layer is bonded to the foam, but still flexible, so no ballooning at one end of mattress
The Wanderer brand is specific to BCF, Delta Window Cleaning. It's a slightly different mat to the ones in this video though, being that it is heavier likely on account of thicker fabrics and possibly doesn't have cored foam. I can't say for sure, but no doubt it still offers a good night of sleep. ~ Ben
Snowys Outdoors ah right, I didn’t know that! I definitely would have liked to try these other mats out but we were in a bit of a hurry when we picked them up, I’ll definitely be consulting your videos for all future gear, really keen on the Hyperflame after seeing that video the other day👌🏽
We dont carry the Mondo @Micah On The Move, but I've checked it out and it looks pretty cool. Difficult to comment on comfort though. At a glance its slightly thicker at 11cm, but has a lower R-Value. ~ Lauren
I’ve had the megamat for 3 years now bought from snowys when it came on special It’s very comfortable and easy to roll up however to get the firmness I need to pump it up a little I also bought a dune matt which is similar to the zempire firm but harder to roll up The valves on the cheaper mats are a concern Can you buy spares?
Thanks for your feedback, Michael. It depends on the type of valve as to whether or not you can get spares, I'm not familiar with the Dune mats sorry. We can certainly follow up on spare parts for you on any of the brands we sell though. ~ Ben
I've got the monstmat king single...ive.had it for about 1.5 to 2yrs....used it maybe 10-12 times I think....I have 2 BTW...in my experience, they aren't full self inflatable, probably to 80% ...you need to manually blow....ours have also become less self inflatable over time...I would estimate its now down to 50%, and it becomes an effort to get it fully inflated (or thereabouts)....one of the mats is also leaking, I suspect via the valve somehow....can't see how, can't see why.....by the time morning comes around your basically sleeping with no cushioning......I paid $200 each for our mats....I couldn't fault them in the first 12 months, but given all of the above, they're not that great for the price.
This type of may will generally only self inflate to around the 80% mark, Andy, and then require some extra air to make them firm. As for the Monstamat, we sell loads of these with a lot of positive feedback. It's not unreasonable to think an inflatable product like this can get a puncture too, often the small, slow leaking punctures like you describe are the most annoying and hard to find. You can identify where the leak is by inflating it firmly and spraying with soapy water, you'll see bubbles forming where the leak is and you can repair this with a dab of sealant. ~ Ben
Very informative. Thank you. I love my exped megamat 10. It was interesting the S2S mat wasn't as popular as it should be. Sea to Summit, unlike Zempire, are not good to deal with.
We've always found Sea To Summit to be really good with their support, I'm sorry your experience has been different. This STS mat is a nice one but I think they are better know for lightweight adventure rather than car camping gear. ~ Ben
As a new owner off the Oztent Rs1 . Why don’t they bring out an air mat with the valves on the side so it is easier to inflate and deflate with a pump ?
Good video. Are all self inflating mattresses adjustable, because I want less air to make it softer? Do they role up easily, I need to use it on top of a hospital bed to to make it softer (spine damage) standard mattresses are far too firm for me. thank you
Generally yes, all self inflating mattresses will be adjustable to a certain extent. They may not roll up easily, but it helps if you get a small electric pump that can deflate aswell ~ Lauren
Hmmm, that doesn't sound right. Have you checked to see if it is the valve leaking i.e. by using soapy water. We've got a video that may help here - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ENLEFCEzCJI.htmlfeature=shared. If the leak is elsewhere then it can be repaired, if it is the valve then it would be worth enquiring at the place of purchase to see if it is actually faulty. ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors i havent. I will give it a go. I found myself blowing mid night many times to stop feeling like Im sleeping on the floor. I will check the video
Prices change all the time, Andy, which is why we leave it out of the video and invite our viewers to go to our website to see our everyday low prices. ~ Ben
@@nzpomdotcom we only ship within Australia sorry, and I haven't heard anything about the custom Tesla version of this mat becoming part of our range. It might not yet be available in Australia at all and it's not something we have any demand for yet. Not to say this won't change, just nothing on the cards at the moment. ~ Ben
I can't confidently recommend one that is going to be good for your back sorry, Gonzalo. They will all offer a similar level of comfort, but if you are concerned then I'd recommend trying to get into a store to try them. ~ Ben
Thx for the review! In on a search for my daughter's. They are 7 and 5years old and need a good mattress to sleep on in there tent. We're not looking for a light one, but a cheap strong one with good isolation. Any hints or tips? Unfortunately our budget is not the biggest 😕
There are a few options in the sub $200 range, Joop. Zempire mats are good value and their Bomberpad offers 7.5cm of thickness at a good price - www.snowys.com.au/bomberpad-3d-camp-mattress. I use these for my girls - www.snowys.com.au/comfort-plus-self-inflating-wmns-sleeping-mat, but they are not made of a super tough material and kind of balance comfort with lightweight. These - www.snowys.com.au/camp-mat-self-inflating-sleeping-mat are a tougher and really affordable option but are only 3.8cm thick, which may still be adequate for young kids. Their r-value is 4.0 which is suitable for most climates, you may need to add something underneath in the depths of winter. If you need more advice, it may be easier over the phone - 1300 914 007. ~ Ben
I was going to ask you witch mat you like. I see you telling beeceekay, thanks for the zempire monstamat. One thing i like to see. How well does it roll up. Also where are you
We're in Australlia: www.snowys.com.au/ You can also check out the details of our two stores online, and also head to our Monstamat review here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WfuOnqUcNtQ.html ~ Lauren
Not on the singles, it doesnt work very well at all and you end up with a huge pack size. It also creates a weak point in the foam down the centre. You can do it with the doubles, it effects them less and the foam crease doesnt really impact comfort as most people sleep on either side. If you do want to fold it for whatever reason I'd say only do it for transport. Store it rolled correctly, or open and flat. ~ Lauren
I've had a number of requests for me to lay on the mats, Jose, I just feel a bit hypocritical telling others whether or not a mat is comfortable given their experience laying on the mat will more than likely be different than mine. ~ Ben
I wouldn't say it was more reliable, but it certainly has a good reputation. It's overall design is probably better in that it folds up easier and smaller for similar performance. ~ Ben
Dude; you didn't show the most important part!! How do the damn things self inflate and how long does it take. then actually roll the thing up again???
These will be just as good in summer as they will in winter. If the ground is hot they will stop heat from rising in the same way they stop the cold from rising. The R-Value is a measure of thermal resistance, not just warmth. ~ Ben
I wonder how small I could roll my 1550 swag with one of these (single sized) instead of the standard foam mattresses that came with it. My swag would have to roll up to near half the size I reckon 🤔 That would be an interesting experiment.
If you do try it, let us know how you go. You'd have much more success pulling the mattress out and getting all the air out of it separately, then putting back in the swag for pack up. ~ Lauren
The All Terrain mattresses from Darche are a little different in their design, Luke, but they still offer a good night of sleep. The All Terrain mattress is made with a heavier PVC exterior and I don't think the foam has been cored so it does not pack down quite as small as the mats in this video. The benefits of this heavier style of mat is that the foam is still supportive in the event of getting a puncture. ~ Ben
I'm NOT happy with my Sea to Summit. It wasn't long before it developed a slow leak. Very frustrating to have to inflate it every night. I suspect it leaks through that cheesy valve. Looking for something more durable.
Sorry to hear that @Riding with Stymie, if you picked it up through Snowys we'd be happy to take a look for you. Our warranty info page is here: www.snowys.com.au/warranty ~ Lauren
This one is still pretty new, Nenad, and we haven't had any good feedback yet. I guess no feedback can be considered good feedback though. It certainly feels like it's made just as well as the other mats in the range. ~ Ben
still a pity that a. the comfort is not really tested and b. the seize deflated is mesured by factory standard. I roll my exped about half the seize as shown. put som muscle into it.
What I find comfortable is likely to be different to the next person though, Egbert. We do sit and lay on the mats when we review each one individually, you can find these video reviews on our website. As for pack size, it's not realistic for most of the population to be able to pack the mats up to the size they are out of the factory so we try and be realistic in our demonstrations. Some people will be able to roll them tighter, others will struggle to roll it at all. We don't want to be elite with the gear we well, we prefer to be all-inclusive. ~ Ben
Solid review, I am looking at the Sea 2 Summit or Exped Megamat to go into a rooftop tent on a GoFastCamper. How flexible are they if you need to fold the mat out of the way while inflated? To access the tent sleeping platform one must enter it through removable panels within inside the bed of the truck, so if 2 people are sleeping and 1 person needs to get out, is the mat flexible while inflated so you could access the exit point/panel? Thanks
It depends on how tightly you have the mat inflated, Disillusioned1811. Without the valves in i.e. no pressure, they will fold pretty easily. When blown up firmly you'll be able to push them back but they will be wanting to spring back into place as soon as you let them go. I hope that makes sense. ~ Ben
These are great until you realise you have to store these fully inflated and only roll them up when you intend to take them on your next camping trip. Leaving them rolled up for prolonged period will damage the foam inside makings the mattress unable to inflate. Plus you can’t get any moisture inside either as this will also damage the foam… We had two double mattresses storing them inflated in our house was impossible, who has spare space to keep to inflated mattresses for months at a time??
Storing them deflated doesn't necessarily damage them, HJC, as long as they are stored dry, but it does mean that the foam will take longer to inflate when you go to use them next. Best practice is to store them inflated, but that's not always practical. I store mine semi-deflated and rolled up inside my swag and it's still functional after almost 10 years of use. ~ Ben
How long to fully inflate them. I've heard 5 to 10mins from a different store, but I think the reality is an hour or more on a new mat. I don't know if that will get quicker the longer I have it?
It will take a few days when you very first get it @komakaze komakaze, as its been factory compressed for a long time. Having it in a warm room can really help this inital inflate. I would recommed a few hours for the first few uses, but once you've slept your mat in and had a few trips you wouldnt need more than 1/2hr. ~ Lauren
Sorry autocorrect I live in Portland Oregon and I would like to buy a zempire monstamat, and camp light. I saw on their website they will be coming to the u.s. next year but, if there is anymore detail on that, or hopefully I could buy one now.
@@tylernewton7453 I'm replying to this just because it seems to have fallen through the cracks; unfortunately, last time I personally checked (I'm just a customer), Snowy's only ships within Australia. I do know that Zempire's own site is an international one, so you might have better luck going straight to the source.
We don't have the Exped medium sizes sorry, Straight Outta Isolation. The only 1100 self inflating mat we have is the Darche All Terrain Mattress in the 1100 size (www.snowys.com.au/atm-all-terrain-mattress-1100). This isn't really equivalent to the mats in this video though as it is much heavier and bulkier. Sorry we couldn't be of much more help. ~ Ben
Sorry to hear that @Martin Hyde! We've had feedback from people who have upgraded to EXPED and never had better support, so its definitely subjective. Really hard to know if a mattress is going to be right for you without trying out first. Hope you've found one that you love! ~ Lauren
Oh, sorry, S G, I had hoped to clear thing up not make them fuzzier. At the end of the day, they are all pretty similar, but some have had more time in the field than others. ~ Ben
We don't have any of the thicker Thermarest mats in our range, gwag24. We do sell the Prolite hiking range though, and I would have no hesitation in recommending any Thermarest mat. ~ Ben
Hi John, I am in the Keswick store in Adelaide, but either of our stores (Keswick or Brendale) will have mats that you can test drive. Just bring a pillow and your favourite blanket and we'll find a quiet spot for you snooze for a while :). ~ Ben
@@SnowysOutdoors Ok Ben thanks for replying. Yes always carry my own pillow you never know who's been dribbling all over them elsewhere.. I'm in northern nsw so it's the Brendale store for me..
Great review. So i have narrowed my choice down to either the Exped Megamat or Zempire Monstamat. Im not bothered by the extra cost of the Exped but is it the better mat and is it actually worth the extra cost?
I think it is, Brad. It is lighter, packs away smaller and has a much nicer face fabric. Customer experience backs up the quality and comfort of the Exped mats too. At the time of writing this reply we have 153 reviews on the Exped Megamat 10LXW, 149 of them are 5 stars. Check the reviews out here - www.snowys.com.au/megamat-10-lxw-camping-mat. ~ Ben
I have never used any self inflating mats and would like to know how bad is it if during camping the mat gets slightly punctured (airbeds are totally ruined after a few days of use outside). Is it still usable, "fixable" or how durable are these? Thanks!
Hi Ronan. A self inflating mat will be better than an airbed should a puncture occur, but comfort will still be lessened. The foam inside will still provide some padding and insulation, but most of the support in the mat will be lost should it go flat. These are durable in the sense that they are not easily punctured if used in line with their intended purpose, but there is always a risk of this with any inflatable product. The best course of action is to make sure you clear the ground beneath the mat prior to setup and make sure you don't walk on the mat too much in the tent, especially with shoes on. Should a puncture occur then they can be repaired, and most mats come with a small repair kit of sorts to do this. Alternatively some repair glue such as Seam Grip will do the job, the tricky part is finding the puncture. ~ Ben
G'day Ben, Out of the 4 above, which one is the more durable? my current bonded mat is probably 3 years old and is already stuffed with minimal use. cheers
I'd go with Exped or Sea To Summit, Trent, as the quality of materials and manufacturing is a step up, but they are all on par in terms of durability. ~ Ben
It is much the same as the existing mat, you just need to give it time for the air to escape, but you'll likely end up with a more compact swag once it's packed away. I use a self inflating mat in my double swag, pack up is pretty similar to the foam mat that came with it. ~ Ben
@Master Yoshi any of these will do the job, but you'll have trouble finding something to the exact dimensions. Most of these double mats are about 130cm wide, so you won't fill up the width. You can get a Darche mat that is 1400 wide but they will be much bulkier than the mats in this video - www.snowys.com.au/atm-all-terrain-mattress-1400. ~ Ben
We have a generic video on how to do that here, Karen - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qCdSgAbfMTw.html. The DeepSleep is a little thinner than the mat used in this video so it may be a little bit quicker, but it depends on how strong the person rolling the mat is. ~ Ben
It's a shame you couldn't lie on them to demonstrate.. we all need that realism! What are you hiding ? Also demonstrate the mats being rolled up ? emphasize the weight also when rolled, for each individual mat
I'm not hiding anything, Hoo Hragh. It would actually be unrealistic of me to lay on the mat and tell everyone whether or not someone else will find them comfortable as I've no idea what the next person prefers in a sleeping mat. Fact is, they are all comparable as they are all a slab of foam encased in fabric with air inside with which you can adjust the pressure for individual comfort. The main comparisons are build quality, weight and packed size, all details you can find in the specifications and reviews section for each product on our website. ~ Ben
Yeah wow righto hoohaa ,😂 keeping the hoo in the haa haa 🤣 Ben couldn't have done a more thorough and unbiased review! It gives you more detail than any I've seen. He went through weights . . . Theyre no different when they're rolled up and don't have air in them . . . ,😂 . . . . and comfort is always down to your personal preference. Get into snowys and have a lie on them all! Great job Ben it's soo good to see a comparison and not just one brand pushing their own products - keep up the awesome work! Love you guys @snowys
England accent! I'm an Aussie. Thanks for the compliment anyway. If there was good a fish and chip shop nearby then I reckon you'd be silly to refuse making the most of it. ~ Ben
We've had cheaper ones before, Charley, but they haven't proven to be worthwhile. Often people end up buying twice when they choose the cheap mats, and this ends up being more expensive in the long run. The Zempire mats are the best when it comes to a balance of price and quality. ~ Ben
@@gregdogg10 I've never actually seen one sorry, they look like a new product and we may not have actually had any in our stores yet. I've followed this up with our purchasing team. I have tried the 15cm Exped mat though, and I think the extra thickness would be good for those needing extra depth in the mat for shoulders to sink in a little. Anyone who sleeps on their back will probably be carrying extra weight and bulk for little benefit over the 10cm mats. Hope that helps. ~ Ben
In all honesty each of these companies are pretty good with their warranties, if it's an obvious manufacturing fault then they will, within reason, sort it out. ~ Ben
I think there is about 6 tents in the background, offsboy, bit I'll assume you are referring tot he silver dome with green trim? If so, it's the Coleman Event 14 shelter, check them out here - www.snowys.com.au/event-14-deluxe-sun-shelter-sunwall. ~ Ben
You are right, I wasn't specific enough. I am curious about the army green baker tent like one right behind your right shoulder. Thanks for the quick answer!
Hey Ben, we are looking for a queen mattress and realize that most Exped, Zempire, Sea to Summit and Black Wolf are all in the 130 to 132cm range wide. Recently scrounging the Snowys site we see that Black Wolf also do a queen 3d diamond that is 150w. Struggling to locate much detail on that diamond mattress and it's not on the BW website at all. What's your thoughts on the diamond hexatherm over the standard hexatherm, and why is there such a large cost difference?
Hi Robert, the Hexatherm and 3D Hexatherm are on par when it comes to quality. Black Wolf introduced the Hexatherm 3D Diamond in larger sizes, in particular a queen sized mat. The cost difference comes down to numerous factors, the 3D Diamond Mats are new and prices on new products can be volatile, it can take years for it to settle down. We offer them at our best everyday price up front though, never at full RRP. ~ Ben
Hello, DENMONKEY! :-) Just some info from a fellow consumer, + a Snowy's fan (I have a lot of time on my hands ATM, so I've been weighing in occasionally on these videos, to try to help out fellow campers). The Zempire MonstaMat model in this video is the extra-wide, King Single type version, which is 77cm wide; the original Single model, with that same 10cm thickness, is 69cm, & only $200 (with these guys). Zempire also do have a slimmer product, called the Bomber Pad, which has the same boxed sides but is 63cm wide, + 7.5cm high instead of 10, at $150, which might be a bit kinder to your hip pocket if you're currently looking. Additionally, there is a Coleman High Peak version of this 10cm style (a more recent product than this video, so they gave it its own one, here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bVjm5wcT1jw.html ), which is 68cm wide for $190. I'm not affiliated in any way with the store, I just buy a lot of my gear from them as they offer free delivery with no minimum, & I was specifically recently comparison shopping for a new cushy mat (& browsing across BCF, Tentworld, Freddy's and Amazon, too). I hope this helps! :-) [Edit: a measurement.]
This is total madness, a closed cell foam pad will match or beat the comfort of any of these, and they are noiseless sleeping, at a much less bite of your budget. Yes it is heavier and not as compact, but my scooter is not a peddle bike. If my power to weight ratio shrinks because of too much gear I will add more power or buy a bigger bike. $300 dollars, madness.
Each to their own @Stephen Johnson. Personally, you wouldnt catch me dead sleeping on closed cell foam pads...I've done my time on those and I actually want a decent nights sleep. I know a few people who still use more fancy engineered closed cell foam options, its just not for me. If they work for you though, thats awesome! The beauty of choice. ~ Lauren
They are self inflating mats @Email, so are primarily foam filled. The valves allow air to be sucked in to help expand the foam. You would generally close the valves before sleeping, but for the purposes of the video it's not neccessary. ~ Lauren
One of these is sure to be more comfortable, James. You can easily adjust firmness to allow hips and shoulders to sink into the mat, hence keeping your back straighter. ~ Ben
Hey James I picked up the 10cm exped megamat and I really can't fault it. If your back is really bad maybe go the 15cm depending on how bad it is. It was more comfortable than my previous bed mattress. I haven't tried other mats like this except a shitty self inflating mat from Kings which has nothing on the exped one. I found that it stayed nicely inflated for quite a while too. If you haven't already purchased I highly recommend the exped but again I haven't tried others to compare and honestly I'd probably just replace it with another exped if I needed to.
@@Floatnride all good mate. Not sure what f\up is but that's ok. Exped is expensive but definitely worth the money in my opinion. If you love the outdoors and have a dodgy back you need to do whatever you can to keep your health in check both mental (camping) and physical (your back)
