FromSoft once again sniffing glue when creating the cane sword: "Let's make a sword that you only get once per playthrough, with a unique design and located in front of the Erdtree" "So it's gonna be overpowered ?" "No it's gonna be the shortest and weakest of its class. The overpowered sword is the one that drops from common early game enemies"
Wrong. There are 7 reasons why the Noble's Slender Sword is the best weapon in the game. 1. It has the Longsword moveset, which is the best moveset. Forget those penniless pretenders with their fancy weapon arts, explosions, teleports and all that voodoo. You are nobility. Your puissance is yours alone, your weapon is just an accessory to that. 2. It is looooong. A whole peasant's hand longer than those filthy longswords the soldiers use. Long weapons have long hitboxes. Poke your dissidents before they can dirty your attire. Then laugh at them for being poor. 3. It gets top of the line in Dexterity scaling and takes exceptionally well to elemental infusions, for those with discriminating taste. Strength builders can even get it up to A, just please use Soap first. As if you were the type to get into fisticuffs anyway - that's what summons are for! 4. It has 110 crit modifier, because people who parry a lot are just better than everybody else. Backstabbing, too, is very appropriate for a nobleman. 5. It has rock bottom requirements. Even your noodly-armed Astrologers and Bandits can pick it up right away, without wasting points in Strength like a pack animal. Being an aristocrat is easy. 6. It looks absolutely balling and is a necessity in any fashionable build. Forget the gauchely decorated Rogier's Rapier with its inhuman Dexterity requirement, it just smacks of new money. This refined, elegant weapon is coated in the timeless glamour of gold, conveying the splendor that is yours by birthright. 7. It is an ultra rare drop from the few enemies who carry it. You can farm for hours, grinding hundreds and thousands of Nobles into paste without ever seeing it. Only the luckiest and most privileged aristocrat-killers may own this opulent deathstick. That's you. You won. Congratulations, winner.
Like the humour. This tier list is definitely dated indeed, not much to change but the noble and sonaf are both s tier in pve, whereas the noble and coded are s-tier in pvp.
Lordsworn's Straight Sword is really nice. Faster than the greatsword variant, way lower requirements, looks pretty, you can just slap whatever ash of war you want on it. I'm a mage so it's a backup weapon, but it's really good for backstabs, too. And I have 2 or 3 spares. Meanwhile the broadsword seems to be terrible for backstabs.
i’m glad people are coming around to St Trina straight sword, sleep effects like 90% of enemies in the game even bosses like Radagon, Maliketh, and Godfrey will stagger for a good 3-4 seconds when sleep is applied to them. it’s underrated sword that does decent damage but sleep is worth it
The Sacred Lordsworn Straight Sword has carried me all the way through Raya Lucaria. It’s definitely starting to feel underwhelming and I’ve been experimenting with dual-wielding it with the Ornamental Straight Sword and also using the Claymore from time to time, but Sacred Blade is just so damn good.
Broadsword easy S-tier weapon for both pvp and pve. Damage is far more important than range with straight swords because they all have pretty comparable ranges to begin with unless you compare the shortest to the longest and the Broadsword does insane damage on pretty much all infusions. Hard disagree on the moveset part of its criticism too. What matters is the powerstance j-l1 and l1, not the 1h r2. And all straight swords get that. I know a lot of people don‘t want to hear it but those two moves comprise of 90% of the straight sword moveset. Same with dual Coded. Really good damage and best range so easily the best for pvp but pure holy is awful for pve.
the broadsword might be A tier just for the damage it does plus early game availability. can outdamage just about all of them for just about any build by using the infusion that best suits your build.
I think somber weaoons that don't have a unique ash of war should have lower FP costs on their ashes as an incentive to use them over just using an ash on a regular weapon.
I'm not a fan, dmg is super low. I was trying it out in a dex arc run I started a few days ago and it was struggling to out dps other +0 weapons I had, and it was at +3... That might be just straight swords being bad in pve unless power stanced tho.
@@Ecliptor. did you put more in dex or arcane? Because it scales better with arcane than dex and dual wielding them with rotten wingsword insignia and Millicent prosthesis gets nutty damage. Ash of war is situational at best but with what of Alexander and Godfrey talisman you get crazy damage.
@@Ecliptor. You need to understand that some weapons are frontloaded and some backloaded meaning some will have really high base damage but do not scale well while others have low/lower base damage but scale well. This sword is much better on a high RL and when it is upgraded more because the scaling is improved. Food for thought
It is kind of incredible that you are still making tier lists over a year later. This game is way too fucking huge. I really like your comedic sensibilities and would love to see you branch out a little bit.
I started my first playthrough with Confessor and Broadsword and beat the game with it (powerstancing it with other straight swords) because I didn't wanna repeat the mistakes of ds3 and bloodborne where I'm waiting for a better weapon to upgrade and having a really tough time in early game so immediately upgraded the Broadsword whenever I could which I didn't regret in the slightest, it's very very good for a casual, range has never mattered to me because like most players, I'd always be facef*cking the enemies when fighting and change our playstyle to match the moveset of the weaponso honestly A tier but personally S tier
It's interesting to me to see how many of the swords moved, such as the lordsworn and Noble's Slender sword. One thing I want to point out is that the swords do have different stamina costs. With the higher damage swords costing more, such as the lordsworn, longsword and broadsword. The Noble's slender sword cost slightly less per swing, from 12 to 11 stamina per L1. The sword that costs the least stamina is in fact the cane sword, at 10 stam per L1. Which gets me to the fact that i think the idea of this cane sword is different. While the bloodborne cane was a sword pretending to be a cane. This one was a sword that an old warrior could not bear to let go of, so he used it as a cane and thus it's tip is dulled. It's theme is small sword for the weak old man. I would say that it has it's use in receiving spell based weapon buffs or with any build with low stamina.
All the straightswords have about the same length except for the crappy short ones no-ones use. The broadsword is S-tier in PVE because it does the most damage, and it's not much shorter than anything else. The heavy attack is great in PvE because it is really fast, it does more poise damage than similar weapons, and the sweep can hit enemies that are behind you. I've used all these swords and the broadsword consistently beats everything else in PvE. If you change the affinity, it generally does more damage than the swords that have that affinity. A magic broadsword is better than all the magic straightswords, and a faith broadsword is better than all the faith straightswords, including the coded sword.
@SahnigReingeloetet Yeah, the Coded sword has an insane unique AoW, and using somber stones is always a plus, but damage wise the broadsword still wins.
Great list. I use the Golden Epitaph sword when I'm in places with skeletons (catacombs, Tibia Mariner's, etc.), so it gets some decent use there. On "my list" it would be upper B-tier, but I agree that, as a main weapon... Uh.. No!
Finally someone saying lordsworn is top tier. Never understood why most put it at high b to low a, yet say miquellan is the best in the game just because if it’s r2.
In terms of pve I agree except Longsword is S tier. It’s actually S tier in every souls game being the highest damage infusable straight sword + buffs except the broadsword. However the Longsword has superior range and move set so losing 20 dmg for more range, thrust, and better move set. It’s basically lordsworn but with less range, less critical dmg but more dmg. So if Lordsworn is S tier so is Longsword
the basic longsword is better than b tier, with most other scaling types it does more damage than the lordsworn only being beaten out by it with them both being keen so the lordsworn being s with the longsword being b is kinda wrong
I dont want to hate or anything but this is kind of bs honestly. First of the Longsword is literally a better Lordsworn, the broadsword damage is significantly higher than all the other basic swords, its moveset is only different in its heavy attacks and they aren’t significant on ss anyway. Range too, ss are all pretty much the same lenghth. There are a view outliers but the range difference for anything shorter than the noble slender and longer than the saint trina is negligible. Broadsword, Talons and Coded should be S tier for pvp, Broadsword, Coded, Eochaid and Night&Flame for pve.
True, the Longsword does overtake the Lordsworn in damage at some point. But even fully upgraded with heavy infusion and 80 strength, the Longsword does only 13 points more damage than the Lordsworn. That's barely a difference, and the Lordsworn still has the higher range and crit modifier.
Bro put SONAF in A 😂😂 Easily S teir. Straight up easy mode for pve. It takes like 45min of the usual early game setup to basically 1 shot the first 4/5 bosses.
lordsworn straight sword does less damage at high level than longsword. longsword should be in A tier and it should be beside it. critical damage doesnt really matter
Lordsworn Straight Sword not only looks beautiful, but powerstanced with either bleed or cold infusion does insane damage and status build up, has a great moveset and can also be infused with a multitude of ashes of war. Brilliant sword. Reminds me of Lothric Knight Sword from DS3.
I'm enjoying off handing golden epitah with the miquellan sword on my build that can't use golden vow. It adds a flat 25 sacred before 10% for 1 minute. Buff up the miquellan sword with sacred blade for another flat 95 for about 800 AR, then charged R2s all day against bosses.
I believe the long sword does more damage with the strength and quality scaling than the lordsworn's and has the same reach and moveset. Not sure it's 2 tier difference. Also one note about the short sword - it has the best moveset because it can do heavy thrust when two-handed. I wish any other infusable straight sword would have this moveset! Anyway it's something.
If I remember correctly, a keen long sword actually passes a keen lordsworn in damage as you approach 80 dex. I think a keen noble slender is pretty even with it at 80. All three are fairly interchangeable with some slight differences depending on the infusion.
Lordsworn has a 110 crit multiplier, so it could possibly be better than the Longsword if you are stance breaking stuff constantly. Longsword does have more AR, so it would be more consistent. But yeah, both are definitely s tier
Lordsworns should be A at most, it has lower AR than Slender sword when keen infused and lower AR than broadsword when heavy infused, the only thing it has over them is the critical being 110 instead of 100 but if that matters just use an off hand dagger, im not saying its bad but its certainly not the best straight sword Edit: i retract my previous statement, i must have been mistaken for a diffrent sword because boy i was wrong about the lordsworns, it has the same unique attack as the slender sword and has the same critical scaling, it does have lower ar than broadsword but with a better moveset and if im not mistaken it get higher ar heavy infused than keen infused aswell as having the same ar as slender sword when keen infused with 80 of each stat (strengths and dex)
I'd argue that the Cane Sword does have merit as its tied with the Coded Sword for lightest Strait Sword, and as you know in PvE Holy damage becomes useless in the endgame. So while the Coded Sword becomes useless, the Cane Sword given the Flame Art Affinity isn't and will do better, which if you're trying to stay in light roll/on a build hard-pressed with equipment load it can be a life-saver. Also unlike the Coded Sword you can customize it, so you can give it things like Impaling Thrust, Bloodhound's Step, Golden Vow. Also the Cane Sword is good for two other things; 1. A backup weapon on a caster when you run out of FP or don't have an opportunity to get a blue flask off (aggressive PvP opponent/boss), its light weight means it won't burden you much. Remember that Carian Slicer requires FP, the Cane Sword on the other hand doesn't. 2. An off-hand dual-wield weapon, its weight means that it isn't as much of an issue to fit onto a build over a different Strait Sword, plus Intelligence builds can't use the Coded Sword. Have had some success with it this way. It's a SUPER niche weapon, but its weight gives it a unique place, I'd argue it's better than the Weathered Strait Sword because its lighter. D-Tier is fair, but I wouldn't call it useless. Also its accurate to how Cane Swords were IRL, they were self-defense weapons, not made for proper combat that you'd go into battle with. They were weapons that you use if someone jumped you in the streets, so it doesn't need to be the greatest thing, just something to keep you alive in the same way that a knife or handgun does today. Also the Golden Epitaph is one of the best weapons in the game for dealing with Those Who Live in Death, and its skill Last Rites makes it so ANY attack that you land that kills keeps them down for good, even if you don't use the weapon itself to do so.
Weathered straight sword has lower stat requirements then the longsword. So if you've picked astrologer, dumped all your points into INT and left your STR and DEX at base, you still have a straight sword option. You maniac! 😄
What? Out of the Square Off swords the Longsword and Broadsword are S tier! They both scale better than the Lordsworn. The Lordsworn is an early game weapon.
At 80 dex longsword finally surpass lordsworn by a measly 6 AR while having less range, lower crit and being behind in damage most of early and mid game. 6 ar at 80 dex is not worth what you lose.
It would be nice if you had the name of the weapon showing up on the screen as you talked about it, or annotated the video. Not trying to be rude, but sometimes your voice can be hard to understand and put that on top of the weird names for items in Elden Ring and some people's preference to watch these videos at 1.5-2x speed it can sometimes be easy to miss.
