I picked up the one with red handles about a year ago and am amazed on how fast it cuts. One thing though, it does tend to kink up or loop and get tangled. But I still think it's the best saw you can get for under $30.
@@SurvivalOnPurposeThe chain type teeth geometry closes up when used on small radiuses. The triangular teeth stay in contact on the small branches. Supreme makes the original, the PS102 and they tout the small branch performance(3") I have used a chain type(Nordic Saw) on 12" dead spruce and pine with good success, but the teeth were twice as close, meaning twice as many.
I think the fact that the plastic handle saw has a finer grade cut and performed better in that bouncing timber as a result. The other two, being like a chainsaw and rougher teeth and cut, kept catching in the unsecured timber. Secured timber would probably even it out and in fact the chainsaw like teeth would no doubt cut through quicker in my opinion. Even so, they’re still great saws
Brian, you must be one of the busiest youtubers in all of survival and outdoors entertainment. You upload as much as 5+ videos a day and I still can't get enough.
+AZ Patriot I'm trying to get caught up so I can start the new year fresh. I'm going to SHOT this year and I don't want a bunch of commitments hanging over my head.
(EXCELLENT) analysis and answers to all questions ever asked, well done Sir and a big shout out to all the young people out there learning these things.
Brian, I wish I had found your channel a month ago. I've bought close to $3000 on camping/survival gear through Amazon in that time and I'm just now finishing up. I'll still buy several hundred each year and I've bookmarked your link to them so you get some sort of kick from it. Keep doing what you're doing... it's very helpful.
Follow up: I try using this saw to cut an old stump, 8 month dead grapefruit tree. The bark pulled away from the trunk already. What’s left is kinda dry out & somewhat hard. The chain saw did not get a good bite out of it for me to get a good start/pull. I resorted to using my regular hand saw. The chain pull scratched up the surfaces but didn’t chew into the trunk of it. Might be because it’s dried up. If it’s a live tree branches & trunk, it may yield better results. Did cut into a tiny twig of a live tree and it chew it off, albeit an uncleanly rough cut. That’s my findings.
ive been looking at these pocket chainsaws, and always wondered how the type that use actual chainsaw style chains and teeth could possible work. They work on chainsaws because they are spinning in the same direction at 1000s of rpm, something a human cant mimic. so it makes sense the one with handsaw style teeth would work better when powered by a human. thanks for making this video and proving my theory.
No comparison. You saved a bunch of people a bunch of (unneeded) work. I know what to buy now, thanks to you. With the calories you burned up on the other saws, you can now eat extra cookies at Christmas! Thanks for what you do!
Bought one that looks like the one you are testing called 21” Pocket Chainsaw by TrekMate #24930. I chose it over the chainsaw chain because it is thinner and glad to see that it outperforms that. It is listed as * High Strength * Heat Treated * Comfortable Hand Grips * 92 Bi-Directional Cutting Teeth Coated for Rust Resistance. I’ll go and saw a dead stump in my back yard and will do follow up. Hope it will work as well as in this video. Thank you.
Say Heah Brian, I never really got into these pocket saws, Although I did find a pocket saw that I was able to make handles out of pieces of wood and possibly I could use it as a pocket saw. But I alway's wanted to get a Optinel Pocket Saw, I know their different and I know I'm talking apples and oranges, But, I carry my Wicked Tough Saw and it's on my Survival Belt most of the time unless I'm doing what bears do in the wood's or sleepimg. But I also just got my Victorninox Delemont Collection Ranger Grip 78 and it looks promising, But I will never give up on my Folding Jab Saw, my Fav's is the Lenox but the Milwaukee you can change the blade much easier. As far as carrying one of them ChainSaws, first it takes alot of energy to use, and I can also carry my system in my pockets too and like I said my Wicked Tough Saw is on me most of the time with the Combo which is a sheath that allows me to carry the saw in the opened possition, and most of the fire wood is on the ground, Yeah, a little fine steelwool and a spark from.my ferro rod and blip, blap, blam a fire. But Thanx for this video, it's something to think about. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RTtc2pM1boE.html Best, Paul'ie
Good video! I do have a question. If I throw this portable chainsaw over a high limb. Will it cut? It looked like to teeth are only on one side. Am I looking at it right?
Just watching you with those other 2 saws made me tired. :) Just by looking at the design of the, will say LOUIE saw, you could tell it's gonna cut good, in my eyes.
WELL THUMBS UP!! THE THING I SEE IS MOST FOLKS BUY SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND NEVER TRY IT OUT. THE ONES THAT YOU SEEM TO FIGHT WITH CAN YOU IMAGINE BEGINNERS TRYING WHEN IN NEED, THEY WOULD THROW IT AWAY AND START CHOPPING WITH THERE KNIFE. BUT THE NEW ONE LUM-iiii. LOOKS LIKE ANY ONE COULD USE. GREAT REVIEW!!!!
Brian, saw a fixed limb .... like the dead fall behind you. Either of these products works good or great on a fixed limb. Looks like you were working a spring lathe ...
+John Lord I wanted to put them to the test. If they all perform equally on a fixed limb but one performs the others on a wobbly limb, in my mind that indicates a clear winner.
I have the same type chain saw that I got for Christmas last yr, but it had yellow handles on it and I think it pretty nice and cuts good, but can get bound up and if you try and cut a fresh limb and can get stuck, my came with a black bag to carry it in, but overall, not to bad
Man, can we get a quick head to head comparison between this and arguably the best folding saw Silky? We gotta figure out which is a better system, folding saw or pocket chainsaw! Unless you already have an an opinion and want to shed some light?
+Atimatik Army I do have an opinion. I prefer a folding saw for "normal" use around camp. I think the chinsaw types are really good for a survival kit because they take up less space and have the ability to cut larger diameter wood if needed. Honestly, I think I would prefer having both, just in case.
hmm, what was the weight of this saw? (Maybe that's the factor that tips the scales). And I'm thinking in terms of an overall emergency bag/bug out bag that you would grab for any type of possible emergency situation.
Yes, but a little bit big and gaz is not that easy to find in the wood, they should make a mini chain saw powered with urine, that would be amazing in survival situation :)
I've been using the Ndur Pocket chainsaw for about 2-3 years now and it works pretty good, however like the Chain Mate that you demonstrate here you need the wood to stay pretty still or it does not work very well! I've seen similar saws as the winner in years past and they seem to work very well, one day I intend to add one to the collection/gear rotation.
i have always been a sceptic when it comes to these saws. i have come to learn 2 things about them that affect performance. the amount of cutting teeth and if the saw cuts on both pulls, ie. if it is sharp on both forward and back sweeps. I just bought my first one, it is a Canadian Shield Camping pocket saw, it has a cutting edge on each link vs. some that re like every third link, and also has both sides sharp so it cuts on both pulls instead of only one way. I can tell you this it better cut like a champ or it will not be coming on any trips with me. i feel like for the work and time, you could just use a silky or bow saw and not work so hard and work faster.
dude I love your channel and I grew up doing survival out in the woods of the Pacific Northwest in Washington state and I feel like your videos give me more information about iteams I've been thinking about using thanks
We used a pocket chain saw for pruning fruit trees (we have 6). Dead limbs are a hazard too. You can use a rope with the Green Mountain one. I don't think the L. one has a way to use a rope? I had a nonprofit called Fear Thou Not 4 years ago. I retired . I do want to encourage people to use the Buddy System when possible. Make it a point to ask people to hike and walk with you. Survival is not an accident. Safety awareness and self defense are important.
Good demo. That new saw is very impressive and seems to be more versatile. I think your chainmate and the chinese knockoff would have done very well on a more stable piece of wood. Try it and see what you think.
I'm not surprised by the result here. Although the LIEUTNNT is by no means a typical chain saw, it has more teeth than the typical chainsaw blades used by the Chain Mate and Chain Mate knock-off. More teeth equals more cutting for each similar-length stroke. Also the kerf from the non-traditional teeth of the LIEUTNNT is much thinner than the kerf of the typical chainsaw blades on the Chain Mate and its knock-off. A thinner kerf means you're actually cutting less wood, doing less work and expending less energy. Yes, a folding saw like a Silky or Bahco has an even thinner kerf, so it takes even less energy. Even thinner yet is the kerf on a Sven saw. Those saws are all much easier to use, so I recommend throwing one of them into your backpack. But what happens if you get separated from your backpack. A pocket chain saw will fit into a survival kit that will fit into your pocket. None of the folding saws or collapsible bow saws will fit into your pocket. You should always have a survival kit that stays with you at all times, so that when you need it most, it will be there. A pocket chainsaw may not be quite as handy as a folding saw or bow saw, but it will be there in your survival kit somewhere on your person when you need it most, and it will work almost as well. That size/weight/packability versus function trade-off is one that you will be able to live with, and one that you will be able to survive with.
Brian!You should have kept the saw wrapped around it!....nah just kidding,i liked the lutinatit what ever its called better.You almost looked like you was gonna faint when you was using the chainmate.
I would like your advice on a saw. I'm putting together a 100 liter live off bag that's about 34 inches high and I was wondering if you knew the most durable saw that's not overly massive. I've been looking at those Japanese hand saws but they do have very thin teeth. Any recommendations under $50? Is it even possible to get a saw that lasts 20 years or so that's not over 5 pounds? Or do you think it would be better to stock up on wire saws with the versatility to be able to turn them into bow saws using branches?
Silky has several teeth styles and I have a Sven Saw I have used off and on for almost 20 years. I don't think a wire saw is the way to go. In my opinion, they are just sort of a "better than nothing" way to have some sort of saw in a very small package. Maybe these videos will help: ru-vid.com/group/PLlvBLL5-fJbikKKsypnw4wQJXGSgdhM0F
Try them on a solid mounted log that doesn't move, you will see a big difference . The chainsaw teeth are more aggressive and tend to grab more and bind on a moving tree branch !!!
The clips on those chain saw saws get in the way with hard wood and dont cut. They are terrible on hard wood. I'm guessing you cut soft wood the first time you tested the ChainMate? I have a Sabersaw and its also terrible and gets hung up all the time. We are also introducing a version of a pocket saw in a few months and we have also created a low profile tooth design to get away from the old chain saw style. Nice video!!!
Great comparison video Bryan. Looks like a great little saw. You demonstrated the difference extremely well for performance between all of them. I think you better go sit down now and take some of the special medicine in 12oz cans. A 12 pack of them should help. :-) Thanks for sharing, Dan
Great review. The design of the LIEUTNNT saw looks like it would perform better as it would cut in both directions. Came across a similar design saw available here in Canada on the Mountain Equipment Coop website "Supreme Pocket Chain Saw". Would be interesting to compare it against the LIEUTNNT saw
Those thin pocket chainsaws, the Leutininet, don’t work well when you have to pull against them with the wood secured with a lot of force, the opposite of what’s in this video. They tilt over flat back n forth and you can’t set a groove, the standard chain style blade since it has thickness can rest flat with force applied. You got to do a better test like with a standing tree with decent diameter
the chain mate is a chain saw blade and they are made only to go one direction the other one is more like a regular saw on a chain. no brainier just looking at it
Hey Bryan im not positive, but im not so sure that thing wouldnt whoop up on the corrona and the bahco. Bet there will be a chain mate giveaway next week lol.
I tried with mine. And it didint work but you migjt find different results from a factory made one itsbjust the wind and being in the top of the tree its not easy using both hands
Say Heah, Brian, it's not only you, it's most of us, I just think, in a survival situation those kind of saw's would drive me crazy, Even tho its a short drive he he he, but Yeah, I'm surprised how well a Folding Jab Saw works, I just put on a wood blade and "A way We Go", , , ,
Doh!! My bad, I reckon I should learn to expand the description and look for the links. Thanks for putting up with an Old timer. Great review of the products.
Using a real chainsaw blade like that seems impractical because the blades are spaced further and are meant for high speeds as compared to the other one where slower cutting grabs more material
Another cool vid review ... i have seen them contraptions around for years., your id showed me what i supposed ... (allot work compared to a saw) ??? the new design looks like it did much better... but ill take a saw and a axe any day buddy !! peace
@@SurvivalOnPurpose Because a Company send you a product to review for revenue and you mocked their name instead of calling the company and ask how to say it! Best Regards!
Yup I'm with ya on the winner= Loo-2-Loo, What-Evir she's called gets the prize, Bryan. Sure got ya some sweat goin on there..ha ha...............ATB Terry.........God Bless