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Best value CITIZEN hands on: The Tsuyosa small seconds and the super titanium ‘Forza’ NJ0180 

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Integrated bracelet watches are HOT. With the Tsuyosa line Citizen watches already had an affordable Rolex Oyster Perpetual in the collection and with the addition of the small seconds NK5010-51L and the new super titanium NJ0180 series I think they have a great Tissot PRX alternative in the ranks. I’m also getting some grand seiko vibes with those dials .. what do you think?
In this video i get hands on with both models in the collection to find out what there is to like or dislike about these... Things to know before you buy.
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Комментарии : 108   
@russellseah2347
@russellseah2347 26 дней назад
Citizen Super Titanium Forza is Watch of the Year for the build quality, design and price point. Period.
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 26 дней назад
might well be
@hendersonshorology
@hendersonshorology 26 дней назад
You have me browsing for one of these! Lovely stuff Tom, appreciate your awesome videos 🙌🏻
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 26 дней назад
Curious to see where I steered you …
@Ian_CognitoOnIG
@Ian_CognitoOnIG 2 дня назад
Citizen has been killing it lately! These wear so much better than a PRX and far better value. Love my green Tsuyosa and gold Series 8 GMT
@smoove314
@smoove314 4 дня назад
The funny thing with these two watches is that they stuck with the miyota 8000 series. The new small second-hand 8300 introduction mitigates the second hand studer. I wish the Forza would have at least used the Miyota 9000 series.
@BrandoDelgado-i7k
@BrandoDelgado-i7k 27 дней назад
Was just looking at the forza today, love the video and thanks for the info!
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 27 дней назад
Thanks ! I only found out making the video the us is the only market that had the name Forza for it.
@bricksandstones5816
@bricksandstones5816 10 дней назад
Do you know when the green dial is launching?
@Awatchguyslife
@Awatchguyslife 27 дней назад
Great video! I’ll have to try that titanium on. Looks really good
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 27 дней назад
Thx for your time here man 🙏
@iansegal
@iansegal 24 дня назад
Another great review Tom! 👌🏻 I like the background music.
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 24 дня назад
thanks ,, about the music: ? when you noticed it does that mean it was too loud ? :s
@iansegal
@iansegal 24 дня назад
@@BowlOfSalmon No not at all. It was a nice wallpaper tune to the edit.
@maritimuse9127
@maritimuse9127 27 дней назад
Awesome video! I will probably add the super titanium watch to collection in the near future. Might go for the eco-drive chrono though
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 27 дней назад
The eco drives are cool. Maybe a little more reliable too
@julianmoriati4682
@julianmoriati4682 27 дней назад
I saw your pics already on HF. I was looking forward to this vid. Perhaps, I grab one myself.
@Redondo_dom
@Redondo_dom 27 дней назад
OF**
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 27 дней назад
Bedankt voor je tijd hier dan. Leuke dingen hoor voor deze prijs
@alfredchen4579
@alfredchen4579 25 дней назад
I have tried on both. The blue one is brilliant when you are suitable for lighter coloured clothes, and super stylish with darker colour as well. The titanium looks quite dim and matt considering the outfits. So I think style wise, go for titanium if you are low profile; go for the steel version if you prefer a more exotic and unique dial. (I have always been wearing the most silm Citizen ecodrive watch, but the steel version doesn't weigh much on hand, which is a plus)
@RedwoodAggie
@RedwoodAggie 24 дня назад
Good points on the style of each. I like the blue, but worry it would be a bit bright and/or clashing with the other blues I typically wear. I think the blue on the titanium model might work better.
@alfredchen4579
@alfredchen4579 23 дня назад
@RedwoodAggie yeah if you have other blues already, definitely no need to go for this one🙂
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 21 день назад
Sounds like a well thought out decision. ;)
@-BlueX
@-BlueX 27 дней назад
The quality of these videos are insane!
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 27 дней назад
Thanx man
@Ibra-qv8ls
@Ibra-qv8ls 26 дней назад
You meant that the watches aren't that good LOL
@RedwoodAggie
@RedwoodAggie 24 дня назад
These are solid, if imperfect releases from Citizen. It is exciting to see Citizen really enter the conversation with enthusiasts. I like the super titanium model, with green or blue being my favorites. The white dial is even nice (affordable Snowflake?), but the colors just offer a bit extra style. The clasp is disappointing, but not surprising considering the price and being from a larger brand. I have even seen the Tsuyosa small seconds on discount already. I'm sure the titanium model is not far behind and will become an even better deal in that case. I tried on a bunch of versions of the orignal Tsuyosa last year and was impressed for the money. I am definitely considering getting the titanium model. Thanks for putting these watches in your extremely well shot videos.
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 21 день назад
Agreeing to what you say. 🤛(Always easy to find citizen below the official prices. )
@nurariefnugroho1126
@nurariefnugroho1126 19 дней назад
The success of Citizen Tsuyosa makes Citizen launch successors like Tsuyosa small second & Citizen Forza. Citizen just launching New Series 8 GMT with integrated bracelet likes Tsuyosa shape models. Maybe next Citizen should be release the Tsuyosa Diver. 👍👍👍
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 18 дней назад
oee a diver .. that would be cool
@moniquelegarda1842
@moniquelegarda1842 8 дней назад
My Titanium Forza arrived today, and I am one happy camper.
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 7 дней назад
Congrats man !
@joakimdam9723
@joakimdam9723 24 дня назад
Would definitely take the solar quartz version.
@talkingabouttime1622
@talkingabouttime1622 23 дня назад
You know what. I’m really starting to like this bowl of salmon guy! The Ti looks great also! Citizen is killing it in this price range!
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 23 дня назад
Lol. Thx
@vincentschneuwly9783
@vincentschneuwly9783 27 дней назад
I tried them both at the boutique and I totally agree with your conclusions, the Tsuyosa looks great but feels too hefty and bulky on the wrist when the super Titanium wears better being lighter, and I do prefer its dial pattern, so I bought a Super Titanium for a close friend's birthday and for myself you would ask? I bought the new Seiko 5 SNXS which has kind of the same bracelet, which I do really like, than the Tsuyosa and being smaller is way more confortable on the wrist, which makes it IMO the perfect summer watch I was looking for.
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 27 дней назад
The tsuysa should be fun with a good rubber strap. It’s not a bad watch. Not at all. But I guess I just wanted the total Package to be a a good as the dials look. Or something like that. 😅
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 27 дней назад
Thx for watching btw !
@derbagger22
@derbagger22 27 дней назад
I have the small seconds Tsuyosa in this blue. For my 7.5" wrist, it fits PERFECTLY. Well balanced and the blue is incredible. It really is the perfect shade. It seems to go with everything as the blue has some green in it. I wear a lot of blue in my clothing and no matter if it's royal, sky, dark or light blue, casual or dressy, it just works.
@derbagger22
@derbagger22 27 дней назад
Also, getting your fingers on the crown when it's out isn't too bad. If I just need to wind it, I just rub my finger against the underneath of the crown and wind it with that one finger. Much easier and fewer scratches on the case, over time.
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 27 дней назад
Thanks for sharing! The blue is incredible. Tried any other straps for it yet ?
@derbagger22
@derbagger22 27 дней назад
@@BowlOfSalmon not yet. The blue leather strap citizen makes for it looks good.
@bricksandstones5816
@bricksandstones5816 10 дней назад
Where can i get the green version of it?
@derbagger22
@derbagger22 10 дней назад
@@bricksandstones5816 it's blue. There is no green yet
@timetexas1518
@timetexas1518 26 дней назад
Really nice looking watches!
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 26 дней назад
Something there to appeal to a lot of ppl
@timepeacelove5837
@timepeacelove5837 27 дней назад
A great video Tom! Both look amazing, but I think I’d choose the titanium. Really love that case and agree, the clasp could have used more love, but not a huge deal breaker. Cheers!!
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 27 дней назад
Thx J. Not a deal breaker at this price point. Just parts of me who wishes they would totally knock it out of the park
@timepeacelove5837
@timepeacelove5837 24 дня назад
@@BowlOfSalmon Anytime! Yes I know, with just a tiny bit more effort and $ spent, it could have fully delivered
@keithburford8589
@keithburford8589 24 дня назад
Good stuff as ever Tom. The offset small seconds on the Titanium appeals to me but a couple of negatives do not. I like to feel that I have something on the wrist and the only Titanium watch that actually does is a ruddy joke , yes the Rolex Deep Sea Challenge !. Personally I think it would look better sans date as the proximity to the sub seconds looks a tad cluttered. So in stainless minus the date I would probably give it whirl as for the money Citizen have been releasing some pretty good affordable pieces of late.
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 21 день назад
Personal tastes. I got used to it. And learned to love it rather quickly.
@What_is_ai_anyway
@What_is_ai_anyway 24 дня назад
Weird choice for the super Forza to go with the lower grade movement and the same stamped clasp as the basic tsuyosa.. actually makes the tsuyosa small seconds more compelling with current discounts imo
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 21 день назад
Maybe that’s the idea. Idk.
@What_is_ai_anyway
@What_is_ai_anyway 21 день назад
@@BowlOfSalmonCouldn’t figure it out so I got both 😅
@Dialandhands
@Dialandhands 27 дней назад
The new titanium models are definitely the winners over the Tsuyosas. The hands on the steel models are just to skinny.
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 27 дней назад
I have no complaints about the dials on tbh. Elegant. The titanium feels more original somehow
@Dialandhands
@Dialandhands 27 дней назад
@@BowlOfSalmon I love the dials. It’s just the hands on the steel tsuyosas. The titanium models definitely look the best and have proper hand proportions.
@samuelkim2611
@samuelkim2611 25 дней назад
Strongly agreed !!!
@irvinnwin
@irvinnwin 23 дня назад
Do you think the Rolex datejust hands are too skinny?
@Dialandhands
@Dialandhands 22 дня назад
@@irvinnwin now that you point it out…yes😅😂
@FuegoBoricua203
@FuegoBoricua203 23 дня назад
I hope some company out there will make a better bracelet upgrade for this watch then it will be perfect
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 21 день назад
Bracelet. Not sure. But rubber straps , they will jump on it I’m sure
@danielgillrup9518
@danielgillrup9518 27 дней назад
Both watches are just 2-3mm too big. Hopefully they offer more sizes in the future
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 27 дней назад
But do try the forza. Wears a little smaller than size suggests.
@samnova450
@samnova450 27 дней назад
Looking for more colors to come out in the US market.
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 27 дней назад
Undoubtedly. What model are you eyeing most ?
@dultanur
@dultanur 26 дней назад
Citizen have replaced seiko in the entry level for me, including the pro master series. Looks great,very good entry level movements at a great price. I can easily forgive the bracelets, they had to save somewhere. I might just swap my blue tsuyosa for the new ti model…
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 26 дней назад
there is a lot of truth in this
@devstories-iv1mw
@devstories-iv1mw 6 дней назад
I am waiting for them to create a bit smaller versions like 38mm
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 6 дней назад
maybe they will do quartz... the super titanium wears a little smaller than size suggest imho. do try it
@devstories-iv1mw
@devstories-iv1mw 6 дней назад
@@BowlOfSalmon It would be nice. Yup, have to try it
@SoeUnfiltered
@SoeUnfiltered День назад
Is that 3kliksphilip's Atomic Amnesia?
@Harisampath
@Harisampath 28 дней назад
If only the colour matched the date wheel 😫
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 27 дней назад
There is a white dial …
@bricksandstones5816
@bricksandstones5816 10 дней назад
Hello sir i am looking to buy the green dial but i am not able to find the exact color in the same model in the United states. Can you please help me out?
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 9 дней назад
might be a euro version
@bricksandstones5816
@bricksandstones5816 9 дней назад
@@BowlOfSalmon do you know the launch date for it in america?
@samuellinchen5793
@samuellinchen5793 27 дней назад
Where can i buy it in the US?
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 27 дней назад
Google will help ;)
@shubsodhi5986
@shubsodhi5986 7 дней назад
where can I buy one in canada? Someone please let me know kindly.
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 7 дней назад
Green could be the euro version. I’m Not sure
@kennethchong6752
@kennethchong6752 25 дней назад
I will be perfect if its eco drive and 37mm bezel
@jamest6373
@jamest6373 24 дня назад
They do an eco drive version at 39mm! Look it up
@Leaptab
@Leaptab 12 дней назад
Why not centre, my OCD!
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 12 дней назад
part of the charm
@Chou005
@Chou005 17 дней назад
Even i can afford to buy luxury watches...i always choose tactical watches..
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 16 дней назад
i tend to lean towards tools a lot too
@user-yu1pm9vj8j
@user-yu1pm9vj8j 26 дней назад
€379 and €429
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 26 дней назад
True. But I usually don’t mention exact prices because they are outdated fast
@user-yu1pm9vj8j
@user-yu1pm9vj8j 25 дней назад
@@BowlOfSalmon I mention them because people want to know.
@0x2fd
@0x2fd 8 дней назад
How accurate they are
@0x2fd
@0x2fd 8 дней назад
6:04 I found it
@0x2fd
@0x2fd 8 дней назад
Can anyone recommend me an affordable titanium watch with quartz movement
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 7 дней назад
Solid question. Perhaps I should find a quartz lineup to feature.
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 7 дней назад
Check out RZE and the mecaquartz
@georgecupac1202
@georgecupac1202 27 дней назад
its okay but its not a Seiko turtle.
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 27 дней назад
That’s an icon for seiko
@ummar02
@ummar02 27 дней назад
That’s not my cup of tea or rather go for tissot PRX
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 27 дней назад
I get that. I think The tissot prx is great and perhaps a safer design overall to appeal to more
@ummar02
@ummar02 13 дней назад
Exactly
@TinBin-Craig
@TinBin-Craig 27 дней назад
nice watch i love it ... but intergrated bracelet i hate it .. will not buy one cheers
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 27 дней назад
Fun to change it up once in a while ? Aftermarket bracelets will come
@electricjoshaloo
@electricjoshaloo 26 дней назад
That really is a shame about the clasp on the titanium. It does look cheap. I was gonna run out and grab one but maybe gotta think about it now
@BowlOfSalmon
@BowlOfSalmon 26 дней назад
True but again. They had to cut a corner somewhere I suppose. Still a solid new line
@electricjoshaloo
@electricjoshaloo 25 дней назад
yeah for sure...great looking watches for the price. I want one.
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