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Best Wireless ANC Headphone Ever: Focal Bathys Destroy Competition 

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On October 4, 2022 Focal introduced their first ever wireless noise cancelling (ANC) headphones. They're called the Focal Bathys and they'll sell for $799 USD.
Our Senior Headphone Editor, William Jennings has been testing Focal Bathys for the last three weeks and has some interesting things to add to his full review on eCoustics.
Our review:
www.ecoustics.com/reviews/focal-bathys/
$799 at Crutchfield:
bit.ly/3CvQ9eQ
Competitor Reviews:
Mark Levinson No. 5909 ($999)
www.ecoustics.com/reviews/mark-levinson-no-5909/
Master & Dynamic MW75 ($599)
www.ecoustics.com/reviews/master-dynamic-mw75/
Bowers & Wilkins Px7 S2 ($399)
www.ecoustics.com/reviews/bowers-wilkins-px7-s2/
Sony WH-1000XM5 ($399)
www.ecoustics.com/reviews/sony-wh-1000xm5/
#focal #bathys #wirelessheadphones

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@04yellowjacket
@04yellowjacket 2 года назад
Focal actually already had a wireless headphone- The Focal 'Listen'. Just not ANC.
@ecoustics
@ecoustics 2 года назад
Good memory! We noted that in the written review.
@aceofspades6667
@aceofspades6667 2 года назад
Frequency response graph from resolve has this following harman target pretty closely. There is a -4db dip around 500 - 1k hz which you can solve through the eq app.
@brothatwasepic
@brothatwasepic 2 года назад
Hi there. This is a great start for Focal but I really hope they will pay a dollar or two to support Aptx Lossless and LDAC or give us the option to pay for it ourselves
@jimmycychowski1142
@jimmycychowski1142 2 года назад
Yep I'm hoping that can be done too! 👍🏻
@DaFunkify
@DaFunkify 2 года назад
Thank you for the great Review. So I have the ML No 5909 and overall they are the best sounding BT headphones compared to Bose, B&W, etc. Would it make sense to switch to the Focal Bathys soundwise or would it be pure madness? How big is the gap looking at the sound quality between those two headphones? Or is it just preference? In comparison I felt the gap was very big between the B&W Px7 S2 and ML No 5909.
@barbouradam
@barbouradam 2 года назад
I have the same question
@thomasferrarojr.9772
@thomasferrarojr.9772 2 года назад
The new B&W PX8 are probably as good as these Focal's, I'm sure.
@barbouradam
@barbouradam 2 года назад
@@thomasferrarojr.9772 Have you heard them or just guessing
@thomasferrarojr.9772
@thomasferrarojr.9772 2 года назад
@@barbouradam I'm basing it off a Headfi user who listened to both over a fairly good listening session. Each headphone has its strengths and weaknesses of course preferred the PX8. He said the Bathys had a more holographic sound, a crisper profile etc. but the PX8 had a more natural sounding timbre and and more realistic sounding instruments. I should have my PX8 tomorrow, and I hope to audition the Bathys as well.
@alexsmith1207
@alexsmith1207 2 года назад
@@thomasferrarojr.9772 Umm I might take that as a grain of salt, Px8 which is new and the bathys which basically just came and there is a comparison already?! I had the H95 and while the instruments were natural like cymbals, guitars, metalic like tuning, got ear fatigue over 2 years of using them, natural high vocals, but it wasn't my cup of tea. I enjoyed my Momentum 4 actually more and plus i could hear bad recordings. I'm actually wondering how the expensive Focals sound compare to the PX7, PX7 S2, heck even cheaper headphones like my Momentum 4.
@djfx549
@djfx549 2 года назад
@ecoustics - like your thoughts on the new B&W PX8 vs Focal Bathys. Thanks
@ecoustics
@ecoustics 2 года назад
We waiting to get the PX8 in for review. We’ll find out soon.
@thomasferrarojr.9772
@thomasferrarojr.9772 2 года назад
I'm sure they're neck and neck. The reviews on the PX8 have been excellent.
@unarestem254
@unarestem254 2 года назад
Yes I'm looking forward to hearing the comparisons of Bathys and px8 too.
@jimmycychowski1142
@jimmycychowski1142 2 года назад
I just bought these Focals, I have Way too many wireless headphones to mention,😊 the Amiron wireless headphones being my favorite so far, I'm very much looking forward to testing these out, I was going to go for the 5909s happy I didn't 👍🏻
@rockon856
@rockon856 2 года назад
And your thoughts jimmy?
@jimmycychowski1142
@jimmycychowski1142 2 года назад
@@rockon856 they are absolutely outstanding mate 👍🏻, I've been testing them wirelessly all of the week with my Pixel 6 Pro, and the last few days with a Pixel 7 Pro, the Sound quality they produce is so good, that I honestly don't want to take them of my head, and for me that says everything, I've tried a lot of genres and I'm blown away 👌with what Focal has done, with my other wireless headphones,( B&W P7 Wireless, B&W PX7, PSB M4U8, Sony wh-1000xm4, the Nuraphone, Amiron wireless headphone) I always had something that I didn't like either with the sound, or the Build, construction of the headphones,or the lack of noise cancelling, or the lack of Bass, lack of volume, I don't have anything to complain about here with the Focals, I feel in all honesty I could get rid of ALL, my other headphones and be Happy, and I probably will 👍🏻
@jimmycychowski1142
@jimmycychowski1142 2 года назад
@@rockon856 I will be testing out the DAC feature of the Focals on weekend with my Surface Pro 8, so I'm interested in seeing if the sound quality will improve even more with that USB DAC mode, I have previously used my Amiron wireless headphones as my main quality wireless and USB headphones, those will be kept as a secondary back up 😂 as I'm totally in love with these Focals 👌
@jimmycychowski1142
@jimmycychowski1142 2 года назад
@@rockon856I'll be pushing some higher quality files also in USB DAC mode from my Surface Pro 8, also, as most of my testing wirelessly have been with Spotify Premium, which in Australia is limited to 320kpbs track file's, and Even with those tracks the sound these Focals produce is the on top of all my other Headphones 🎧👍🏻 In all honesty I'll probably sell everything except the Amiron wireless, and these Focals 👌 hope I've answered your question 😂
@rockon856
@rockon856 2 года назад
@@jimmycychowski1142 I’m in australia too ! Mate this is very cool to hear I’ve never owned anything in this price tier before for headphones … but I do own the Focal Twin BE studio monitors , they run off my Apple Mac Studio. Incredible . Been considering the AirPods Max headphones (still haven’t heard them) but hear they are heavy on your head .. these focals are 50 grams lighter but I’m coming from very light Sonys so not sure yet re weight and fatigue … Word is the internal battery on the focals may not be able to be replaced once it dies.. Not sure what I think about that yet 😬
@Doctopian
@Doctopian 2 года назад
Seems like I pulled the trigger too quickly on the ML 5909 headphones. Is the sound quality really that much better with the Bathys?
@denislemieux7294
@denislemieux7294 2 года назад
I have an iPhone. Does the sound quality take a hit? Thanks.
@gianlucaalessia5538
@gianlucaalessia5538 2 года назад
How would you compare these to the bo h95? Same price curious on sound quality who wins or if basically the same
@ecoustics
@ecoustics 2 года назад
We haven’t compared both head-to-head. But we don’t think you’d be disappointed with Focal.
@gianlucaalessia5538
@gianlucaalessia5538 2 года назад
@@ecoustics if I can get h95s for 600, still focal? Lol
@ecoustics
@ecoustics 2 года назад
@@gianlucaalessia5538 still Focal 😀
@gianlucaalessia5538
@gianlucaalessia5538 2 года назад
@@ecoustics lol focal it is! Thank you and thanks fir the great review!
@andrewwong9769
@andrewwong9769 2 года назад
How’s the sound if it compares with the Sony WH-1000XM5?
@ymmp30
@ymmp30 Год назад
If anyone is still here, perhaps you could help me with htis question. For me, personally, I like the sound signature of the Galaxy Buds2 Pro - plenty of thump that does NOT affect clarity. They're a little thin in the middles (as if the 10mm woofer and the armiture tweeter are mostly covering the ends) so I boost it a little, but they are clear with a nice soundstage. I also have the MW08 which are not accessible to me right now but I also like a lot. I think (need to listen more) they're a little warmer and more refined than the Buds2 Pro, but maybe not as dynamic. Which of the high enders (5909, Bathys, MW75, PX8 and H95) would fit in between the 2 pairs of buds mentioned above? Thanks!
@ecoustics
@ecoustics Год назад
We haven’t tested the H95, but I don’t think you’ll be disappointed with any of the other four. Further insights can be read here: www.ecoustics.com/articles/best-wireless-headphones/
@juahnhatwell
@juahnhatwell 2 года назад
How's the sound on these compared to the momentum 4's??
@-Derp-
@-Derp- 2 года назад
I just bought a pair, and my research suggests they destroy 4's quite easily. ML's and B&W PX8 are good but are outclassed by Bathys.
@SpykerSpeed
@SpykerSpeed 2 года назад
I have the Momentum 4 and they sound pretty good when they are EQ'd. I also own the Focal Utopia, which are insanely detailed and have much tighter bass. So I imagine the Bathys are like a more detailed Momentum 4 without the need for EQ (unless you're obsessive about adhering to the Harman curve like I am).
@-Derp-
@-Derp- 2 года назад
@@SpykerSpeed Yeah I am seeing that Bathys is a no joke ANC hifi can, rather than some Bose competitor. Honestly I think they are pricing Bathys too cheap, when you consider ML are another few hundred, and Bathys are being compared to Stellia and Celestee in terms of performance, both a bit further up the Focal food chain and alot more $. Well done on the Utopia's, a better can I am not aware of, though sound is subjective, they are regarded as worlds best in many circles.
@alexsmith1207
@alexsmith1207 2 года назад
@@SpykerSpeed I'm wondering if you ever had the (original the first)galaxy Buds because that kind of sound signature Harman curve, climatic like sound except no resolution (because of the price), bright, and the vocals bright, was one of the best sounds i heard. I'm wondering if there is anything like that, sounds even better, more detailed. I have the Momentum 4 my best headphones yet coming from H95 which has a metallic like sound tuning. I'm surprised the Momentum 4 has a low price, and Focals are even triple the price and how the focals sound signature sounds like even better the bathys, and Bowers and Wilkins.
@deadline7610
@deadline7610 2 года назад
Thanks. If you were using the Bathys with a Dap what connection would you use to get 24/192 from the dap ? Thanks
@brothatwasepic
@brothatwasepic 2 года назад
You can't unfortunately unless you plug in a wire. They sound good though except when compared with the Ananda BT
@marcom.7995
@marcom.7995 Год назад
I have them. They are Nice... You will need the EQ, Sound out of the Box not that great ...They do not beat the PX8...
@kevinpuloski
@kevinpuloski 2 года назад
How are they for phone, and video meetings?
@klepmod
@klepmod 2 года назад
I've used them for 2 days now. I work remote and spend a good portion of my day on video calls. Everyone so far says my audio sounds great. Another big feature is the multipoint connection. I'm connected via Bluetooth to both my workstation and my mobile phone. It works flawlessly.
@kevinpuloski
@kevinpuloski 2 года назад
@@klepmod Thanks for the reply. Audio for phone and video is super important. 👍
@step0251
@step0251 2 года назад
Have you guys had a chance to listen to the Bowers & Wilkins Px8? If so, how would you compare those with the Focal Bathy's?
@ecoustics
@ecoustics 2 года назад
We’re still waiting to get the Px8 in. Once we do we’ll plan another video.
@djravenation
@djravenation 2 года назад
I have listened to both and from my personal perspective the B&W PX8 , where I was waiting for, are very mainstream oriented. Hard bass, good sound signature, but not the clear sound I expected, owning already the PI7. The material is amazing, they look and feel great, but is this enough for about 250 Euros more than the PX7.2. If B&W had brought the PX8 for 599 I expected, I had bought those. But after the unexpected news of Focal Bathys, I tested both with the view on sound quality. As I listen to rock and classical music, I decided to buy the Bathys. Before buying PX8 , it might be interesting to Test the PX7.2 related to the price and the Bathys related to the sound. At the end it is a personal emotion of what sounds better. The ANC and telefony is similar for both, but it is not comparable with Sony or Bose, because those are a lot better. I use my Bathys in the train and sometimes I wish me a little bit more silence from the ANC. Just for your information: I have tested with Astell Kern Cube for high fidelity sound and Samsung Galaxy Note Mobilephone with all 3 Headphones by Bluetooth connections. The DAC mode for cable connect e.g. USB C is only available with the Bathys.
@Mackr_5
@Mackr_5 2 года назад
LDAC is the only thing missing
@BenX74
@BenX74 2 года назад
Focal did make a wireless headphone before, the Listen Wireless.
@ecoustics
@ecoustics 2 года назад
You are correct. It didn’t have ANC which we noted in our written review.
@aldphillip2003
@aldphillip2003 2 года назад
Utopia is solid beryllium, not plated.
@Mackr_5
@Mackr_5 2 года назад
Ok I got these and they are gd headphones. They are a jack of all trades, a master of none. Sticking with my DT 1990s. You can't get anything extra out of them with a external Dac/Amp. They are as gd as they get out of the box. Need more volume, need more of everything out of them for me. I'd advise ppl looking at this to get sony mx5 instead, the nc is better and not worth the extra money for the sound it offers imo.