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Apex Legends Best and Worst Legends Season 21 - Tier List
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@arkkon2740
@arkkon2740 19 дней назад
I have no idea why people think the alter ult with downed players thing is a bug. This was shown in the latest trailer, its definitely a feature. Plus I'd consider it risk-reward, you put down your shield for the chance at coming back to the team, it works just fine
@Spiralredd
@Spiralredd 18 дней назад
Ikr. It saved my life. Especially if you have a lifeline on your team. Cuz the lifeline can take it too and pick you up. Although it can be a double edged sword cuz if fuse knows where it is all it takes is a single knuckle cluster to bring you down again so it's best to place it out of sight
@kylevanderwolf4446
@kylevanderwolf4446 18 дней назад
And considering they can follow you through it it’s still a massive risk
@Spiralredd
@Spiralredd 18 дней назад
@@kylevanderwolf4446 they can't follow you through it. Only the squad can. They can track your movement trails but only your squad can actually enter them
@TaiKatsu
@TaiKatsu 18 дней назад
if downed teammates can take wraith and ash's portal, why not alter's right? definitely not a bug. i'd be down on the floor and take out my phone. beep boop
@Inf4mousKidGames
@Inf4mousKidGames 11 дней назад
I was just about to comment on this. Drives me nuts when my teammates don't use it. Post if the reason why I don't pay her
@DedData
@DedData 16 дней назад
S: Revenant, Bloodhound, Horizon A: Alter, Bangalore, Conduit, Loba, Mad Maggie, Caustic B: Ash, Catalyst, Crypto, Fuse, Lifeline, Mirage, Rampart, Seer, Newcastle, Pathfinder, Wraith, Octane C: Gibby, Valk, Vantage, Wattson, Ballistic
@Tenderofyggdrasil
@Tenderofyggdrasil 6 дней назад
Hes the only person to put ash above d teir I've seen but high b ot low a teir feels for me. She feels solid just kinda bland on some stuff. Has like 5 voicelines
@user-sy7vt2gv4e
@user-sy7vt2gv4e 19 дней назад
8:22 that lifeline clip is hilarious. Severed being knocked and triggered in chat while you wipe the whole squad is the average apex experience
@MangosInTrees
@MangosInTrees 19 дней назад
lol I called him out and told him to watch and he left 😭
@arctictropic1147
@arctictropic1147 19 дней назад
​@MangosInTrees you put him down much better than the enemy who shot him
@vladgabrielmatei9128
@vladgabrielmatei9128 18 дней назад
Common skirmisher behavior tbh
@troyhartung6137
@troyhartung6137 19 дней назад
I feel like any legend now can be viable in ranked. But it is crazy to think Gibby is one of the weaker legends now if you consider how he was a must pick from like season 3 all the way up to like season 13
@MangosInTrees
@MangosInTrees 19 дней назад
yeah he can still do his thing in ranked, but I feel there are better options atm
@joea7590
@joea7590 19 дней назад
Lowkey needs his fast heal in shield back or need a better ult
@RicardoFlores-ph6cg
@RicardoFlores-ph6cg 19 дней назад
nah if ur playing masters against the best legends vs ur legends that aren’t as good, ur getting outplayed most of the time bc the abilities are much better but its still 50/50 but they just have the upper hand
@lucasvincent3021
@lucasvincent3021 19 дней назад
Gibby just has a ton of counters now and it’s kinda sad to see him fall so far
@lucasvincent3021
@lucasvincent3021 19 дней назад
@@RicardoFlores-ph6cggibby is still good at what he does there are just a lot of counters to him. Doesn’t mean he’s not usable
@geoschilling
@geoschilling 19 дней назад
Bro more tier lists dude. Make a ranked specific one and a pubs specific one and re do them at the ranked split. I’d watch the same thing over and over againb
@girlweird833
@girlweird833 19 дней назад
How are you doing duos? Are you duo-ing in Trios?
@alextran5374
@alextran5374 19 дней назад
@@girlweird833ye he is
@justingilmore2176
@justingilmore2176 19 дней назад
Yeah you can tell this ranking list is based on pubs, and I haven’t touched that in years
@Delayed2314
@Delayed2314 18 дней назад
I absolutely love this legend upgrade system, it allows them to constantly buff/nerf legends easily. It feels like there is more content on new season releases now
@lycanpaws
@lycanpaws 16 дней назад
That and also any legend can feel viable
@EinfachLuap
@EinfachLuap 18 дней назад
Putting Ash above Wattson, when she literally won ALGS as well, is wild to me :P
@thekvng201
@thekvng201 13 дней назад
She didn't win algs, the person who used her did with an high IQ and lots of training.
@EinfachLuap
@EinfachLuap 13 дней назад
@@thekvng201 Yes. Thank you for this very insightful response lmao
@shalindelta7
@shalindelta7 11 дней назад
​@thekvng201 he wouldn't have done it with Ash, that's the point. In no universe in the multiverse is Ash better than wattson. I play both of them so i know.
@thekvng201
@thekvng201 11 дней назад
@@shalindelta7 Anyone with enough game sense and IQ can play any legend in the game. Wattson is better at defense than Ash but Ash is better at fighting and getaways, with the changes to her tactical she is much better.
@shalindelta7
@shalindelta7 11 дней назад
@thekvng201 No shit Sherlock that's why they're in those respective categories. Doesn't change the fact that Wattson is the better legend overall. You cam play aggro with wattson if you have sense and IQ but you'll struggle hard with Ash in defense.
@coolcoolguy6582
@coolcoolguy6582 18 дней назад
I main Wattson. You WILL get stunned by her fences just like a wraith portal. What's even better about it though is enemies get stunned in the small invulnerability time when coming out of the portal so they're already slowed. Wattson will be the best counter to Alter out of all the controller legends.
@thekvng201
@thekvng201 13 дней назад
Nope wattson is very situational and if you are smart you can avoid her traps. Alter is very strong against wattson, Newcastle, rampart and catalyst with her tactical. The only counter to alter imo is fuse and mad Maggie, whose tactical can hinder alter from just jumping through her portal.
@youareevil9146
@youareevil9146 18 дней назад
Legend tier list: S: Mirage F: everyone else
@bone.08
@bone.08 18 дней назад
As a Mirage main I can confirm this is true
@Ajgamesalot
@Ajgamesalot 18 дней назад
@@bone.08ALL HAIL MIRAGE
@PrettyMuchCarnage
@PrettyMuchCarnage 18 дней назад
As a non mirage main that has been bamboozled more times than I wanna admit. This is true.
@riskyumbrella4874
@riskyumbrella4874 17 дней назад
good then i hope they nerf him :)
@ehdohkyi593
@ehdohkyi593 16 дней назад
@@riskyumbrella4874you’re a bot 😂
@joelanderson8062
@joelanderson8062 18 дней назад
Man everybody STILL sleeping on Newcastle... Dude is absolutely S-tier and one of the best legends in the game.
@-_-4936
@-_-4936 18 дней назад
Same as crypto
@calitoosh45
@calitoosh45 18 дней назад
@@-_-4936na, crypto is definitely not as good as newcastle, trust me on that one.
@shadowatch8815
@shadowatch8815 18 дней назад
FAX bro i'd put him high A tier myself cuz barely any movement and the hitbox but he's absolutely the best at what he does. insane sleeper pick fr
@jamiep4674
@jamiep4674 15 дней назад
@@-_-4936Crypto stinks bro
@crisis514
@crisis514 14 дней назад
@@calitoosh45no he is
@PaperJavi
@PaperJavi 18 дней назад
Something to note about Caustic is the gas acts like a scan for you as you can track where the damage is coming from.
@juangalvan8900
@juangalvan8900 19 дней назад
I’ve been getting farmed by predators all day today like last season I had a 1.60kd but now I’m a .30 kd like it’s so rough out here
@MangosInTrees
@MangosInTrees 19 дней назад
so many sweats
@juicepouch1
@juicepouch1 19 дней назад
That happened to me last season. Usually I'm about 1.25 kd, last season bc of the terrible first few weeks I finished I think around 0.75 lmao
@juangalvan8900
@juangalvan8900 19 дней назад
@@MangosInTrees worst part is my poor teammate are new. At least I know what to do to have a bit of a chance, these poor new accounts are fed to the lions
@donnadiore2356
@donnadiore2356 19 дней назад
So ?
@igal5553
@igal5553 19 дней назад
​@@donnadiore2356 fun go BOOM booom
@jonathonm3556
@jonathonm3556 18 дней назад
I thought everyone knew downed players could take the ultimate...it was featured in the trailer
@littlemikeyultra3330
@littlemikeyultra3330 17 дней назад
ikr? it even has a special animation!
@bowley4
@bowley4 18 дней назад
One thing to point out with caustic on broken moon… there is SO MUCH more cover now! POIs have a lot more little boxes and corners and random bits along the way between buildings etc… all sneaky spots to leave a trail of breadcrumbs… and when a whole team is rotating a path, and they all pass by a tree and set one off, that’s a good 40-60 damage sometimes and it all adds up over a game! There are times when I’ll have like 200-300 more damage just from people popping random traps I’ve hidden around back of a box they can’t see. ABC- Always Be Caustic-ing! Once you’ve got a trap ready it should be going down somewhere. Be it just blocking a door to annoy an enemy or maybe it keeps an enemy from getting to cover and they get killed outside.
@P3t3rB311
@P3t3rB311 19 дней назад
Next, you should do a tier list of legends in solos only
@dorgonx
@dorgonx 14 дней назад
slight argument for ballistic, been playing with his new perk and it basically allows you to ignore the need for attachments altogether. for example, if you're running havoc, volt, mastiff and have purple shield you can essentially switch the volt and havoc in and out of the sling and have purple attachments for either whenever.....all you need is the mastiff attachments. it's been working out for me
@iTuber012
@iTuber012 17 дней назад
@8:35 "Make sure Yall keep looting the whole time" 😂LMAO
@ShaunGotFans
@ShaunGotFans 17 дней назад
Dude was mad he died n didn’t land w his team 😂
@domisiowyyt8457
@domisiowyyt8457 14 дней назад
"I dont think gibby is the worst legend" procedes to put him in the last place
@matthewl8448
@matthewl8448 18 дней назад
Alter's teammates can take the Nexus while downed. This is a FEATURE not a bug. It was shown in the gameplay trailer on Monday, go take a look. Overall, seems like a rushed tier list IMHO. I would definitely revisit this list in the feature and maybe take a second look at legends you glossed over. Saying Wattson can't hold down a room as well as Cat is a bit of an L take considering Wattson just won a LAN. She's the QUEEN of locking down an area since Season 2 and will continue to do so until we start seeing more Crypto EMPs.
@icetea8946
@icetea8946 19 дней назад
we need that weapon tier list video soon
@Spiralredd
@Spiralredd 18 дней назад
Ik the alternator and volt will be S tier. Especially fully kitted
@flixytip4571
@flixytip4571 18 дней назад
Vantage could be goated if they just removed the large ass laser indicating where you are aiming at all times lol
@PrettyMuchCarnage
@PrettyMuchCarnage 18 дней назад
Idk about goated but to make her better they should remove the laser. And just make her shots become tracers. The laser is stupid af for her. 😂
@astellas4856
@astellas4856 18 дней назад
It will be annoying as hell. Like im BallSuck main also i like Vantage and you know devs implemented very strong cores in both of them but I feel like devs kinda scared of Vantage meta or Ballistic meta because how much Vantage main will be abuse sniper ult
@djdoesstuffz5896
@djdoesstuffz5896 18 дней назад
The sniper mark should track footsteps and bat should get a rework
@KaitDiaz47
@KaitDiaz47 17 дней назад
@@astellas4856 Ballistic was balanced in season 17 he did not need any nerfs because all the players kept on crying he takes skill to use.
@whits6783
@whits6783 17 дней назад
​@djdoesstuffz5896 what kind of rework were you thinking? What don't you like about her current echo relocation?
@CharizardLv95
@CharizardLv95 19 дней назад
Wattson won ALGS.... A tier just a high skill ceiling
@TIMandKIMFishing
@TIMandKIMFishing 17 дней назад
Hey man! Your video randomly popped up on my RU-vid and I recognized the name and checked and I was one of your original subs on Twitch years ago and we actually played together a couple times! You probably wont remember me but Im really happy that you’re still playing and doing big things! Congrats bro
@patrickkristensen6897
@patrickkristensen6897 19 дней назад
i halfway agree with your take on wattson her lvl2 upgrade does suck but i think your wrong about catalyst having better outplayability against alter catalyst can only hold down doors and small patches of floor where the fences a can cover or spiderweb across the entirety of most small buildings and rooms the phase may protect against the first fence on the door but fences have so much more coverage options than the spikes especially if there's a gen out
@swabbie2066
@swabbie2066 19 дней назад
Personally I think that wattson is B tier because if you are holding down a room all u have to do to counter the alter portal is fill the room with fences as well and because u can't see fences while in phase if the room is relatively small they will 100% hit one of the fences
@Lynxee3004
@Lynxee3004 18 дней назад
I think one thing they could do to buff valk is give her ult a kind of afterburner effect where she can burn people when landing on them. Like the fuze ult, just without the slow.
@andre3k658
@andre3k658 10 дней назад
That would actually be badass
@taatanka
@taatanka 19 дней назад
While it doesn't move her out of B-tier, Ash's Ult did get buffed as well. While phasing, she does see enemies highlighted in red. Again, not enoigh for A-tier, but still a small buff.
@rossary6972
@rossary6972 18 дней назад
i think we need a tier list of the best and worst legends for solos now! because i actually have no idea who to play and just stick to alter/caustic all the time xD
@nathanaelthomas9243
@nathanaelthomas9243 18 дней назад
For Ballistic, not that I would change his power ranking, but one thing you can do with him now that you couldn’t before is carry a more niche gun in your sling since it levels with your armor. For instance, I prefer AR and SMG, but I can put a sniper, marksman rifle, or shotgun in my sling and have it for when the situation benefits from that weapon. Making that weapon gold is obviously less useful, but I suppose you could end game swap your primary or secondary into your sling to pop your ultimate and drop all your attachments on the ground. Lol
@lucavalenzuela2937
@lucavalenzuela2937 19 дней назад
I didn’t see mirage so I’m assuming he is so good that mentioning him would insult the audience
@MangosInTrees
@MangosInTrees 19 дней назад
Correct
@MrThogge3
@MrThogge3 18 дней назад
He’s in B tier in this video
@SlapDashR
@SlapDashR 19 дней назад
A Wattson just win LAN. Atleast give her b tier. Having one new legend “counter “ her doesn’t drop her a letter
@kapss0832
@kapss0832 19 дней назад
Yea this dude yapping nonsense
@kylevanderwolf4446
@kylevanderwolf4446 18 дней назад
Alter also doesn’t counter Wattson. It you use x patterns instead of just a straight line, you can trap an alter and kill her so easily.
@matthewl8448
@matthewl8448 18 дней назад
I agree. Alter can't just walk into a Wattson setup for free. Once she sees the fences she either has to commit or go back and rethink (her life). Additionally, getting rezzed at 50% is the difference between you catching a stray bullet and going down again vs tanking the shot and getting the swap. He didn't even bother talking about how Split Circut now grants you FULL shield regen off of twin gens instead of 150sheilds each. But ya know, I don't really expect someone who didn't even mention Wattson winning a LAN to ever mention this.
@jacob934
@jacob934 19 дней назад
as a valk main it pains me to see how far shes fallen, she needs an ult height buff if they want her to be competitive with evac towers imo
@igal5553
@igal5553 19 дней назад
Hear me out Her ult flies you to saturn and you can stop ascending whenever you want
@Ricecakez380
@Ricecakez380 18 дней назад
@@igal5553or a rework
@igal5553
@igal5553 17 дней назад
@@Ricecakez380 i guess, her passive can stay ofc
@maxd.9455
@maxd.9455 18 дней назад
I have almost enough to get a new legend. Should i get ballistic or caustic? I want one of them for BR and which one is more fun to play?
@jmlitwiller
@jmlitwiller 18 дней назад
As someone who has always been very critical of how respawn has treated Crypto, I think he is A-tier this season, ESPECIALLY in ranked. His first lvl 3 perk is trash though compared to Hackathon. That speed boost is fantastic when it works
@tylertaunt
@tylertaunt 17 дней назад
C: Gibraltar, Valkyrie, Vantage, Wattson, Ballistic B: Ash, Catalyst, Crypto, Fuse, Lifeline, Mirage, Rampart, Seer, Newcastle, Pathfinder, Wraith, Octane A: Caustic, Alter, Bangalore, Conduit, Loba, Maggie S: Revenant, Bloodhound, Horizon
@abby8043
@abby8043 18 дней назад
Mangos on Rampart: "she's not gonna be in the meta" Trevstacks: "hold my evo cache real quick"
@ProfessorLooney95
@ProfessorLooney95 18 дней назад
I’m 3.53 mins in, Gotta argue the Watson being so low, Watson is a counter to Alter. If I fence up a room and an Alter tacs into said room, she’ll be stunned and vulnerable. Put them on the same team and you have a very fast portal trap through walls. Add in her both ultimates and you have a STRONG synergy. Also I do find myself using the sling weapon out of necessity. Typically I don’t reload before going into Ult so if the fight is still going after ult (ballistic). Good content tho, I’ll keep watching
@NonnyStrikes
@NonnyStrikes 18 дней назад
Off question here... but I notice the FRate alternating often. Is it better to keep my game max at a 125 fr even if I have a 165 monitor? I've tried both and can't seem to notice a difference, but the FR I'm consistent at is 125 without drops in FR. Even if someone in the comments knows, please lmk. I've researched this, but haven't been given a true answer.
@epitome-of-sin
@epitome-of-sin 19 дней назад
I decided to try playing again and the highest I’ve gotten in the bp for the past 9 seasons was 55. Every single time I tried it was not fun and a bunch of bugs. I mained Loba when she first came out and she kept having bugs. Each time she broke, they took forever to fix her just for her to break again! Switched to Valk on her release and had my first 20 bomb on her. They kept making bs changes and finally made her feel better with the perks. Got interested in playing again after barely playing last season only for my main to be broken again! Like seriously it’s frustrating that a company that gets a bunch of money can’t ever do anything. I wish I could have a refund for my account. I’m a week one player and how this game ended up is just sad.
@honeybadger036
@honeybadger036 9 дней назад
Fuse Belongs in his own Tier. IF you are playing with team mates who are definitely better than you, Fuse is the only legend you should pick. IF your team mates are roughly equal to yourself in skill or worse, look else where.
@FrostyTrix24
@FrostyTrix24 19 дней назад
Finally a tier list where Catalyst is put somewhere that makes sense
@beardedcat9744
@beardedcat9744 15 дней назад
New Castle is def S tier now. Him being able to throw down his shield alot faster now is insane. Plus his ult being Wattson ult plus coverage is insane. Also he has the best revive in the game.
@Andrekenz
@Andrekenz 15 дней назад
Heat me out. Wattson level 2 upgrade, revives team-mates with 50hp AND 25 shield
@corpiantales
@corpiantales 17 дней назад
IT HAS ARRIVED THANK U MANGO
@isixii5632
@isixii5632 7 дней назад
I gotta disagree with you on ballistic. The best part about the sling is that it allows you to cover all your bases. Shotgun or smg in the sling for close range AR as your primary for your medium range and a sniper as your secondary for your long range. The thing going for him is that he’s versatile I think he’s higher then where you placed him
@Vellamoon
@Vellamoon 19 дней назад
Im playing Watson my Self and alter is a pain but you put her in A tier last tierlist how did she end up in c ? Is it just alter or the map rotations etc ? I’m coming back after a long break (season 13) and it’s funny to see valk and gibby so low
@brom762
@brom762 18 дней назад
cause it is a rushed list with limited thought behind it.
@jamesball9623
@jamesball9623 18 дней назад
Mangos: these legends suck and these legends are good Respawn: “Patrick, write that down WRITE THAT DOWN!”
@kazua802
@kazua802 17 дней назад
I feel like Wattson should be out a little bit higher because even if alter can counter her dances it depends on how well fenced that Wattson is because you can’t always avoid all the fences plus her ultimate heals shields overtime so that’s very good
@cedricfratus-nolen6520
@cedricfratus-nolen6520 17 дней назад
I've been playing Alter since she was out, and I love her passive and tac, but her ult I've only set down like 3 times, and I've only used it once. It might be better with a team, but in solos, it's been pretty useless.
@theanimeshack1373
@theanimeshack1373 18 дней назад
So the thing about wattson being countered by alter is that she can trap entire rooms with her fences and make it impossible to move without going through her fences. Shes the only one who alter cant counter in a roo.
@Prowl_X74v3
@Prowl_X74v3 18 дней назад
Before I even watch the video, I know he's gonna underrate Newcastle and put him in C or D tier instead of S or high A. Edit: it was B but he always underrates Newcastle even though he was always really good.
@attilatoth592
@attilatoth592 12 дней назад
Horizon isn't S-tier because of his gravity lift but because that her steps still don't make a fucking sound...
@kayreinier182
@kayreinier182 18 дней назад
9:39 got a correct you there mirage was OP at one point because if you remember back near his launch he was able to stay invisible with his ultimate for like five seconds and hold his weapon out to be that guy, but not that many people know this so but I do agree with you about removing his features
@Ashfromthere
@Ashfromthere 18 дней назад
I've played the new season for like 3 hours and my kd is at .16 when my kd last season was 1.7. I've died to the same 96,000 kill octane like every game
@maozedowner5915
@maozedowner5915 19 дней назад
My man Vantage is still dogshit
@CosmicOcean-jv4eu
@CosmicOcean-jv4eu 19 дней назад
I hate her. Snipers are always annoying but She is super annoying.
@alainlopez9970
@alainlopez9970 9 дней назад
No she's not 😂
@Spiralredd
@Spiralredd 18 дней назад
Alter is my new main. Like her kit is just so insanely useful and void Nexus saved my life multiple times
@silverragecx9248
@silverragecx9248 19 дней назад
The alter ult thing is not a bug, and i wish people would know this sooner, the amount of times i drop my ult so i can rez my team and them not using it makes me so sad lol wasting a whole 30 seconds telling them to use it and then they blame me they died a minute later when a 3rd party finds them downed in a corner is insane lol like plzzzzzz take the ult and let me rez you. Also from what ive seen, those grenade loot holds, if you use your tactical to go inside of them, the hold instantly opens and saves you from having to use a grenade to do so lol also, try using her ult more for movement, in the sense of placing it at an off angle, ive done that alot and used it to quickly reposition behind teams when taking fights to beam them on the other side of the cover they are using ., tldr, fun legend :3
@zovex13
@zovex13 18 дней назад
ive been playing apex for about 3 days now(kbm). i know how to wall jump but i cant seem to tap strafe well i do scroll up but i don't see any difference then just side strafing any tips?
@ToastyGGG
@ToastyGGG 18 дней назад
Scroll up needs to be bound to jump, you have to only press a or d (don’t press W) and your mouse movement needs to be relatively smooth. Other than that it’s just building muscle memory
@bluewater5463
@bluewater5463 12 дней назад
Been a Loba main since I came back to apex in season 8, never thought of her as boring but I get what you mean. To me, I’d rather focus on positioning and fighting rather than looting. Nothing worse than having a kitted gun and everyone is running an ammo type you don’t need. The market can be huge in ranked to swipe heals late game
@alainlopez9970
@alainlopez9970 9 дней назад
Apex is actually peak rn. They just need to fix all the bugs
@imfikoou
@imfikoou 18 дней назад
I feel like every legend In the game is viable enough, valk could use a buff here and there, and maybe gibby needs an improvement to his upgrades, but other than that I'm very happy how this season is turning out
@oldjebidiahbrown2454
@oldjebidiahbrown2454 19 дней назад
Nah, Seer is indisputably the worst legend in the game. Gibby's one perk of auto reloading shotguns on knocks is more useful than Seers entire kit. L take. Also Wattson is one of the best control legends, and the best legend for countering Alter because if you fence the whole area the Alter will get stunned no matter what, or at least if shes too careful you can shoot her while she is destroying a fence. There is far more outplay potential on Wattson than Catalyst in any indoor situation, especially against Alters. And the reason Caustic isnt better is because most Caustic traps will be placed at doorways which Alter can easily bypass and even if they get caught in the gas, they can just port back but if they get caught in a Wattson fence they will get stunned way more and are far more vulnerable.
@KaitDiaz47
@KaitDiaz47 19 дней назад
No vantage is the worst the only one who's the weakest recon Legend is vantage
@oldjebidiahbrown2454
@oldjebidiahbrown2454 19 дней назад
@@KaitDiaz47 I don't care, they are both ass and gibby is far better than both, especially in solos
@KaitDiaz47
@KaitDiaz47 19 дней назад
​@@oldjebidiahbrown2454Debatable vantage is terrible. Sounds like a skill issue with seer
@KaitDiaz47
@KaitDiaz47 19 дней назад
@@oldjebidiahbrown2454 vantage doesn't have "Scan abilities" she needs a rework her passive maybe can she only do more damage with Sniper's, and her ult needs to have a highlight scan on enemies for 2.4 secs.
@oldjebidiahbrown2454
@oldjebidiahbrown2454 18 дней назад
@@KaitDiaz47 it isn't a skill issue. His tactical is slow as shit and enemies can easily avoid it, and even if it hits the silence really doesn't last very long to make much of a difference. His ult has a super short duration and people can just crouch to not get scanned, and with how many Revs there are it is very likely that they'd crouch around in your Seer ult to ambush you. Bloodhound and Crypto are far more effective scan legends, with Crypto taking far more skill to use than Seer because there's only so much nuance to Seers abilities compared to Crypto. Also Vantages sniper is super easy to hit people with, and the 2 tap potential early game is ridiculous, and even though Vantage is the biggest recon character she is also the only one with some sort of movement ability. Even though it isn't a good movement ability, it is still better than nothing. Her passive is also fine because she is the only legend that has the potential to scan both ring consoles and survey beacons, which is a super strong benefit for ranked. There are far more situations where Vantage is powerful compared to Seer. Seer is only a problem when you rely on get-out-of-jail-free card movement abilities and you randomly get scanned, and even then most of the time if they are playing Seer they are usually new to the game and have no idea how bad Seer is so you can usually easily beat a Seer in a 1v1. I don't think Vantage needs buffed, but reworked a little because she is always doomed to be an early game stomper with little power end game. They should actually make her sniper like a recon tagging tool that does less damage but highlights enemies for longer, and allows teammates to do more damage to tagged enemies, adding a recon and team play element to her kit instead of just having a weapon for an ultimate like rampart.
@haloboy817
@haloboy817 18 дней назад
Caustic is approaching C-Tier as someone who mains him. Mid-High level players EASILY bypass his traps and can navigate through his ULT. It barely slows now, and the damage ramp up does nothing if they know how to use their abilities to get out of/through the gas quickly. It was stated that Alter can trigger the traps which is true but it doesnt matter if she can trigger the trap, take 5 dmg and mag dump me in the back before I have a chance to realize she ported in. Controller legends role is to stop Skirmishers ability to push. And every couple of weeks they nerf them more and more. Incredible to think how far Wattson has fallen. Especially if they are going to give her ULT to Newcastle for free. There isnt a way to counter an aggressive push from Alter, Rev and Horizon as a controller legend anymore. And even then they can use Alter's ULT to reset the push after all the traps are destroyed LMAO.
@olit4063
@olit4063 18 дней назад
I think vantages bird should act a little like a crypto drone but pulse like bloodhound
@magana7009
@magana7009 17 дней назад
Valk's jetpack doesnt work, it doesnt refuel
@tsunyun5925
@tsunyun5925 19 дней назад
8:24 felt bad for the guy not having a good day stay in games next time
@samlasalle3853
@samlasalle3853 14 дней назад
Wattson being C tier is ridiculous, she is at least as good as catalyst and IMO rivals caustic.
@TempoKid
@TempoKid 19 дней назад
14:03 watch the gameplay trailer at 1:08, look at revenant and that will answer your own question. 😶‍🌫️
@jamiep4674
@jamiep4674 15 дней назад
As a Maggie main I feel sorry for gibby players these days
@km_1911
@km_1911 8 дней назад
10 days later Valk’s bug still exists 🙄.
@samaantree
@samaantree 18 дней назад
As a Wattson main I agree, I hardly used Wattson even last season instead I used Newcastle for instantaneous shield cover. might use Wattson this season though to fence off portals but with Alter it might be like a game of Wack-a-mole 😅😒
@matthewl8448
@matthewl8448 18 дней назад
If you fence an entire room, she won't have a lot of real estate to move around. People seem to forget fences are a DETERRANT not meant to royally eff you up for entering (Caustic).
@embercrow7781
@embercrow7781 18 дней назад
The Gibby abuse right out th gate continues! 😂 😭
@wolfgecko2091
@wolfgecko2091 18 дней назад
wouldn’t wattson be a counter to alter since she can trap the portal area when an alter tries to get a good push ?
@alf_ok7599
@alf_ok7599 18 дней назад
i've started playing again after two years and i am just confused bruh
@dimkadaglhf3197
@dimkadaglhf3197 10 дней назад
Horizon ult is so weak nowadays, it should have the same cd as mirage ult
@maximum_75
@maximum_75 18 дней назад
Lifeline genuinely is the most annoying character to play against! Feel like she needs a nerf
@AverageQ-BTD
@AverageQ-BTD 17 дней назад
The glow up of rev needs to be studied
@armaniesingletary8979
@armaniesingletary8979 17 дней назад
To put gibby as C is an atrocity......BRO THEN DUDE SAID ILL DO YOU ONE BETTER AND SAID WATTSON. bro gg. Bro please man please this man put seer in A tier last season. IM THE BIGGEST HATER OF THIS TIER LIST. Pin this comment!
@TaiKatsu
@TaiKatsu 18 дней назад
they straight up ruined valk's jetpack. even just jumping stops the regen. imagine not jumping in apex.
@Trippy_X_DUI
@Trippy_X_DUI 18 дней назад
2.8k kills 1m dmg ballistic player here to say his sling is something i use a lot tbh its what makes his kit, hes op honestly and 2 smart bullets? 50 free damage? thanks op to me alter is who im running atm tho
@PinxPer17
@PinxPer17 12 дней назад
Got back into apex since season 13 and. Same thing happens. I re adjust to the game and do good for a handful of games then i get stomped CONSTANTLY by high skilled sweats. Sucks.
@suku9259
@suku9259 18 дней назад
Can’t agree with putting horizon in the same tier as revenant and bloodhound while she’s remained consistent and strong just not borderline broken tier in all honesty
@ReginaldSkulls
@ReginaldSkulls 16 дней назад
Been trying to play new rev since I left around the time of his rework and it just doesn't feel as satisfying anymore and I can't get a lot of kills with him. Loving Alter at least.
@johnnopeyy4129
@johnnopeyy4129 13 дней назад
Revenant is for good players.
@ReginaldSkulls
@ReginaldSkulls 13 дней назад
@@johnnopeyy4129 Even if I was as good as I used to be new Rev just feels boring to me. Old Rev felt way more satisfying.
@janimize-3066
@janimize-3066 18 дней назад
Alter ult is good but feels too situational to me for it to be an s tier ability
@matiestrella510
@matiestrella510 15 дней назад
Pathfinder hitbox is the same as Revenant
@The_RedVIII
@The_RedVIII 18 дней назад
I'm pretty sure the fact that downed players can teleport to the Void Nexus is NOT a bug. Why? Because they showed it in the freaking trailer! And like you said, the Ult isn't that strong, if it wasn't for that.
@florianhogger8600
@florianhogger8600 18 дней назад
I love Valk. But i gotta be honest, she doesnt really have a purpose right now. You find Evac Towers in every second Chest or so. I hope they do something about her, no reason to pick her at the Moment over any other Skirmisher.
@RlchlRlch
@RlchlRlch 15 дней назад
LMGs arent Meta. *Cries in Spitfire*
@ryancox7577
@ryancox7577 15 дней назад
I feel like wattson counters alter.. wattson fences don’t need to just be one straight fence. We make zigg zaggs triangles just put that shit everywhere and that phase shit is dead and gone, you won’t be able to make it out. And the 50 Hp is to help basically boost off her ugly and give shields and extra hp on revive, she almost can replace a healer
@circasurvive7256
@circasurvive7256 18 дней назад
I kinda wish you didn't have the wraith-tac when you came out of an alter portal. Alter definitely seems broken
@survivor42069
@survivor42069 19 дней назад
I think Mirage should be an Assualt class, he should get his passive reworked. It just doesn't fit him
@shadowmstr3
@shadowmstr3 18 дней назад
Gave Maggie a break to learn Loba. Looks like we back to Maggie.
@DripToohardd-_-
@DripToohardd-_- 18 дней назад
I think the only change rampart needs is to change the wall deploy animation... Make it like the way new castle throws his shield, rampart should be able to throw her walls.. if she was able to throw her walls instead of placing it at her feet she would be much better... What do you think ? 🤔
@nathanaelthomas9243
@nathanaelthomas9243 18 дней назад
I agree that would make her more useful rather than having to run out from behind cover to set up cover.
@DrCooper93
@DrCooper93 18 дней назад
How about a legends tier list for solos?
@cystax
@cystax 18 дней назад
solos mode made me realize how truly privileged of a character horizon is, she can just do whatever she wants lol
@twelvenation6393
@twelvenation6393 8 дней назад
Rampart is easy S tier, her shields alone make her s Tier. Iv never lost a 1 on 1 when i have my shields out
@riyzen53
@riyzen53 16 дней назад
its crazy to think gibby is worse than ash and ballistic
@bdubzzz69
@bdubzzz69 18 дней назад
They really need to buff Gibby... as an OG legend, he needs to some refreshing, otherwise he'll just continue to fall. He'll be D tier next season.
@davidgarage103
@davidgarage103 18 дней назад
Is gibby really that bad this season? Wanted to main him this season just to get better with him. Should I switch to a different legend?
@shredfreak93
@shredfreak93 18 дней назад
🙋‍♂️Potentially dumb question: Bangalores perk of reducing Ultimate by 60s. Is that a one time thing or is it for rest of game?
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