I don't always like narrations from the Doctor's perspective because they never feel as alien as him. Tom however, nails it in Scratchman. Every description makes it sound like you're inside the fourth Doctor's head.
Most of the Doctors were walking in the shoes of Troughton. He wasn't the first, but he was the first doctor to be a "madman with a box". I think Baker took what Troughton brought to the character and elevated it further. I think that Smith channeled that with 11 quite nicely, especially incorporating the darkness inherent in the character. I think that the 7th Doctor also tried to channel this energy, and was fairly successful most of the time. I get that 10 still the most popular Doctor of them all, and I think he probably deserves that even though he isn't personally my favorite. I would say he was an effective mix of Doctors 2, 4, 5 and 8 (mostly 8's darkness).
My 11 video is bad, but the list aligns with my opinions still. The lists for 7, 8 and 9 aren't perfect, but nothing so pressing as this and the Tennant one.
it's funny when people talk about things like K9 as though they're embarrassing to the show yet are fine with the constant pain of watching 10 gloat moan and cry his way through series 3-the specials (especially as he was so irritating in series 2 with rose). People can stomach 11 and River yet can't stand K9. Don't get me wrong K9 is pretty dumb but this was a character made for kids in a show that has an insane amount of just god awful shit in it.
Ngl I can see Baker having a working knowledge of SJA, given how close he was with Sladen, and when writing a book starring her and specifically a scene depicting her future, I could see him reading up on the show for it Also if you haven't already, listen to the audiobook version of Scratchman. Baker reading it in his do alien yet so familiar voice is the definitive version
The directors of the horns of nimon intentionally asked all the actors to be as panto and as melodramatic as possible, i think it is a great example of cheese in doctor who and I cannot help but love it. Its objectively bad but its really fun just like Timelash
I’m so happy you remade this this to include Scratchman and Well mannered war since those are two of my favorite stories of all time (Scratchman being my favorite story ever)
Oh hey mate- As an April Fool's Joke, you should do a: '2021 version,' of a Doctor, but literally just have it as a complete re-upload of the previous version! 🙃
So glad you talked about The Well-Mannered War. Never read the book but I ADORED the audio adaptation of it. I know Gareth Roberts is...well, you know. But if there is any Doctor Who writer that most successfully captured the style, tone, and overall sense of fun that the Graham Williams era had while also improving upon it and making it his own, it's Mr Roberts.
an interesting idea for a video topic that's not been done to death is analyzing the panto of Dr.Who specifically the panto humor tropes light hearted episode that old and new who used and the weird ways they shaped the lore. like dr.who is so saturated with stories that have a very English kinda sensibility that there's all sorts of strange and wonderful things floating around and I'd be curious how much of that whimsical wunderlust was informed by panto tropes
The only flaw I can identify in warriors gate is when romana automatically held the tharels hand they both teleport and she gave no reaction. Apart from that it's a masterpiece.
I remember last time all the entires were just from the show- None from audio comics or books- Not complaining, but I wonder if this will be different :)
I don't know. The "bouncy castle" line was quite shocking for me... _New Earth_ 15 April 2006 as _Rose_ is possessed by villainess _Cassandra O'Brien.Δ17._
I recently got the E space trilogy second hand and discovered that I had not seen State of Decay and Warriors Gate. Watched those two episodes in one day and... mwa... some of my favourite Doctor Who TV stories.
Series 18 as a whole is probably one of my favourite full series in Classic. Don't think there's a story in there that I don't enjoy at least a little (yes, I enjoy The Leisure Hive, Meglos, and Logopolis) The E-Space trilogy and Keeper of Traken are definitely the highlights for me (and the Big Finish audio that's a sequel to Keeper is pretty good too, though that's a 5th Doctor thing)
Romana II is the best companion. I always feel that Romana is unique in that she's really the only companion who is pretty much the doctor's equal. Sure she's younger and more inexperienced, but she's just as smart, cunning, and charismatic as him and they have a great chemistry.
Leela, not only could she protect you handy with a knife and ready to cut the throat of anything but she was hot in her severteam outfit! But yeah Lalla Ward (Romana II), Liz Shaw, Jo Grant (Katie Manning) are definitely up there with Romana I (Mary Tam) , Ace (Sophie) is cool too and Rose in the newer series....
Imagine a conversation between Tom Baker and Jeff Goldblum. Also, I'm stuck in a time loop between 4:36 - 4:40... thanks for that. 5:21 well it happened to Captain Jack to, and that was with Keith Lemon.
I don't know exactly why but the epilogue with 4 and 13 on the beach at the end of Scratchman actually brought me to tears. This book is heavily responsible for bringing me back to DW, even if it took me several months to get through for no reason.
My Best and Worst 4th Doctor Stories. WORST 5: Terror Of The Zygons (An Utterly boring romp through a Scotland ending with a goodbye to an honesty forgettable companion.) 4: Destiny of the Daleks (Mostly Dull with the only saving graces being Lalla Wards performance and The 4th doctors interactions with Davros 3: Nightmare of Eden (An episode where you could tell Tom Baker didn’t get along with the director and a messy, unorganized story) 2: The Masque of Mandragora (Disappointment: The Episodes. Featuring a spotlight, A dick-ish Fourth Doctor, and a setting and concept that could’ve been so done with some improvement.) 1: The Armageddon Factor ( An episode that felt like someone was forced to finish a loose story arc and hadn’t see any of them up until the point of writing.) BEST 5: The Talons of Weng-Chiang (A Great gothic mystery with interesting characters and showing Tom Baker could play a decent Sherlock Homes. Brought down by some not good special effects, action scenes feeling like filler, and uncomfortable yellow face.) 4: The Foe from the Future (Same great gothic mystery, Interesting villain and settings and one of my favorite endings to a Doctor who stories.) 3: The Face of Evil ( To put it simply, Iconic. Iconic settings, Pretty cool concept, A great introduction to a classic companion, and has probably my favorite Fourth Doctor moment.) 2: Genesis of the Daleks (The go-to Fourth Doctor adventure. Giving the show’s most iconic villains a dark origin and a creator almost as sick as them was fantastic. Great performance from all of the cast and I can see why people say it’s the best Original Doctor Who episode.) 1: Scratchman ( A story that feels personal to Tom Baker and his past. A amazing, If surreal story with on point characters and setting with a unique monster for the Doctor to face. In the end, It’s what I think to be the perfect epilogue to the 4th Doctor time.) Comment what you think of my list.
Seasons 15b to end of baker in season 18 had some of the worst stories the production had gone down hill I could understand why baker was unhappy about his last few seasons for me there was only a few good episodes in this era a lot of silly creatures and villains in these stories I'm glad we got seasons 12 to 15a before the rot set in
The City of Death did get good ratings, but ITV were on strike so don’t be fooled by this, it’s an over-rated tale in my view. The other selections I agree with except for Invasion of Time which I have a soft spot for, the Sontaran reveal blew my mind when I watched it as a kid. Deadly Assassin is my absolute favourite, while I remember it upon first broadcast, I came to love it later. Thanks for this, keep up the good work.
Have you listened the most recent series of Fourth Doctor Adventures earlier this year? It took place during the E-Space Trilogy and is honestly some of the best stuff Big Finish have put out this year. I know how much you love the E-Space Trilogy so I highly recommend it! Especially Chase the Night, it's honestly one of my favourite Big Finish stories of all time.
Honestly I love your longer videos, my regular binge. Keep em up! And I’m glad to see that, like me, your getting more into James Goss who NEEDS to make the jump to tv who!
So I agree with everything you said here and you explained it well, except that-probably an actual hot take- _Nightmare of Eden_ is one of my favorite Tom Baker episodes. I just really enjoyed the plot. The Mandrels are terrible, but I've seen enough Classic Who to get past them. I see your faults with them but I guess I'd say of the "Doctor arrives on a ship" episodes, I think it's one of the better ones. Also, I must add, if anyone here read _Scratchman_ and enjoyed it, or didn’t yet, listen to the audiobook. I started reading it and had trouble staying interested, but once I started reading along to Baker's narration, I greatly enjoyed it. It's a great story for Four, and is better yet with Baker's voice.
5:49 LOL! 🤣 I've seen this episode twice in the past week, for I often go to bed with either *Doctor Who* or *MST3K* on my TV (via *Pluto TV* live stream). And you're absolutely right, *Graham Crowden's* performance is so. . . _kooky._ I keep wondering if he thought the show was for very young children (versus a family show). But as with such performances, I lay it all at the feet of the directors and producers. Because apparently they thought this was _just fine._ 🤣 And hey, I'm kind of glad we have it too! 😆 _"Lord Niiiiimon. It's meeee, Soldeed…"_ Before my experience this week with the *Horns of Nimon,* I really thought the pirate captain from *The Pirate Planet* earned the _over-the-top_ award. _"Mr. Fibuli!"_ 16:09 *_MAKE IT STOP!!!!_* 😫 And, ugh. . .yes, *The Invasion of Time.* 🙄 Everything you noted. As I continue to watch so many episodes, I was instantly annoyed at the 'misunderstanding predicament' which reared its truly ugly head virtually each and every time the *Doctor* first arrives somewhere. _"You murdered them!"_ _"You must have sabotaged the ship!"_ Speaking of things. . . I would have liked to have seen *Dylan Moran* as the *Doctor.* Although, I can pretent a bit as I watch *Black Books.*
Oh hey revisiting the big Baker, I guess it was inevitable given the sheer volume of 4th Doctor content is pretty intimidating even by usual Doctor Who standards.
Most of my classic Doctor stories have come from the BF line of stories and there are some great ones, but oooh boy are there some stinkers. Have you heard Planet of the Drashigs? Its litteraly Jarassic park. Within 10 minutes you can tell whos gonna die, who created the problem and how its going to be fixed. I only finished it because its part of a collection. Thanks for the Scratch man recomindation. Definatly going to check it out now.
All your "worst" choices are stories I like with one exception but I'm glad you've dropped Robots Of Death - but your reasons for including it last time were objectively wrong. And you're wrong about Ribos Operation as well. It's hard to pick a "worst of" Tom but it would probably include Robot, Android Invasion, Invisible Enemy, Revenge of the Cybermen, and it would definitely have Underworld top of the list.
The real tragedy of _Revenge of the Cybermen_ is that they made Kevin Stoney wear that ridiculous mask that completely negated his acting talent. Yep, the actor who played Mavic Chen and Tobias Vaughn, two of the most captivating, entertaining villain performances in all of Doctor Who... and I'll bet you didn't even know he was _in_ Revenge of the Cybermen. Oh, and my favourite 4th Doctor story (and one of my favourite Doctor Who stories for that matter) is _The Ribos Operation._ Not because it's especially good, but because it's the story that I can always enjoy watching, no matter what mood I'm in. It's flawlessly adequate, low-effort fun, and it's the one I always come back to when I want to kill a couple of hours with some casual Doctor Who.
Unlikely! 4, 10 & 12 were the three that really desperately needed maintenance. Just rough videos and outdated lists. The others are usually just one or the other. Thanks for watching :)
I started off watching Josh Snares Doctor Who videos because I just stumbled across them and thought, "Eh, what the hell." Josh is quite funny and knows how to make comedic, entertaining stuff. Then I saw your vids being suggested and I gave them a try as well. Josh has dry wit and sarcasm but you seem to amplify it to the power of "Oh holy fuck!" leaving me almost passing out laughing, and grappling with my computer desk as if it's the 60s TARDIS console and "The 2nd Doctor" has just said, "Everybody hold tight, here we go!" 21:39 Is that really you? Holy crap, you're adorable... 😍😍😍😍😍 No. I won't take it back, not even if you totally trash Sylvester McCoy once I get round to watching his your "best and worst" of his 7th Doctor! But please... DON'T FREAK OUT! *_People find cars attractive/sexy that they'll never, ever get to ride (in)..._* 😏😏😏😏😏
I feel like people really quickly looked over this story but uh.. Genetics of The Daleks is easily top 5 Dalek stories of all time and it’s one of the best Baker stories ever made!! I will not be hearing otherwise.
@@SamyulDavis woo! Hyped to see you talk about TLV. I’m waiting a little while to get around to it all because I’m currently trying to listen to 8s run in chronological order. But I’ve heard Genetics obviously, watched Daleks! and I own the two 10th doctor novels (knight fool and dead & all flesh is grass) plus the three (currently) released 8 audios. Still need minds of magnox and echoes but then I’m set!
Appreciate your efforts in making this video, but completely disagree with your takes on some of the episodes. You strike me as the type of person that completely tunes out, doesn't finish watching an episode and then writes a review anyway based on the first 5 minutes that you did see.
Professors in DW and The City of Death Like 99% of classic who fandom I love the Fourth Doctor. Oddly though, whilst I enjoy it greatly, I seem to be the one person in the world that does not consider The City of Death to be his penultimate episode and really just for one reason, yet an issue that so often occurred in the series. That problem being how professors are always portrayed as crazy lunatics with a genius mind but no normal social skills whatsoever and always eccentric. Take the professor in Robot, the worse German accent in history professor in The Nightmare of Eden, the lunatic fascist in Inferno, the earnest but doddery old man in the Twin Dilemma and many more with maybe Professor Litefoot being the exception and of course River Song. Professor Fyodor Nikolai Kerensky in the City of Death was one complete stereotype of how DW usually represents professors and with that forced accent I find his character cringe to watch. I still think it is a wonderful story, but it never ceases to amaze me (as Tom often would say) that this has never seemed to be considered any kind of let down in an otherwise great story.
Its weird seeing my two first Classic episodes on this list. Destiny I still think is a lot of fun but even as a kid I knew Invasion of Time was garbage. Also while Revenge of the Cybermen is pretty mediocre (I put it on the same level as Destiny) the coolest weapons the Cybermen ever had were the Gatling Lasers on their heads
The worst was the second season, there was Sarah Jane fatigue, the worst companion: K9 Worst single episode: Underworld Best season 16 and 18 Best episode Deadly Assassin Horns of Nimon is the first Companion story led story. The 4th Doctor/Romana era is the best part of the Baker era
I’m curious if you’re joking because apparently Roberts is still alive. Was the mention of the greyhound racetrack a joke that’s not translating well or what?
PADI diving suits - come on the budget of Dr Who was next to nothing even Blake's 7 probably had better, this made Dr Who a cult as the monsters and sets (often Quarries) are expected - the plot and story was often the best though usually in the golden era.
There are far better novelizations for the 4th doctor and the 2nd Romana than the Well Mannered War, the Romanace of Crime by Gareth Roberts is far better The worst part of the Tom Baker era is seasons 2 and 3, although you have Deadly Assassin and Talons of Weng Chiang.
Some of the best moments of the show were the hide and seek games the Doctor was playing with the Sontarans while running around inside the insanely spacious TARDIS
About to start this doctor with my partner, it's their first watch through of Classic and we're halfway through death to the daleks (I've seen all the episodes multiple times)
@@SamyulDavis Leela fights a giant squid, rides a sperm whale and showers in front of people 😂 if you need any more encouragement. Dont be put off by the non linear way in which it's written
