Honestly Nevermind is a bad albun. Since views he's been droppiing average projects till CLB, but HM is a badly executed album. Poor vocals and 90% of the songs were underwritten. You might've liked it, but is trash. It's okay to like trash
@@jueezzzz i agree on care package,honestly never mind. But scorpion and clb ? I don’t thing so. Scorpion half first album it’s great and half other is shit so In a scale is a 5 out of 10. Same with clb. So ass means like a 2 or 1 out of 10
im not even a huge drake fan like that but he hasnt made BAD albums, he's made classics, he's made good albums, he's made average albums. none of his albums are unlistenable to the ears. they might be mid but not BAD.
“Drake has never had a bad album” *spits water, drops glass, falls down stairs, buildings falls over, lightning hits me, dogs tears my limbs apart, I land* WHAT YOU SMOKING
Drake has made 3 great albums, and that's about it (Take Care, Nothing was the Same, and IYRTITL). Scorpion is okay overall. The first half is pretty good, however; the back half of the album is bloated and underwhelming. CLB is about a 3/10, and Honestly Nevermind should be called Jimmy Cooks: the Album, because that's the only good song on the album.
@@Young_Brumm15I went through his entire catalogue and the only album that I feel could be considered bad is for all the dogs which wasn’t released at the time
@@devilmaycrysarockingdontcome not on release but It got slightly better over time. Don’t get me wrong, his worst songs do come from that album (although i think there’s worse on FATD) but many songs have gotten better (fair trade, champagne poetry, knife talk, 7am, fountains, no friends in the industry, etc)
I’m sooo happy to see people the really appreciate Nas’ discography. I think Illmatic overshadows the rest of his albums and people don’t give him enough credit for the rest of his music
I liked all of tylers stuff but I get why other people don't. Also if we're rating an entire discography I would put alot of these guys lower becuz early mixtapes sucked. Aka kendrick
A Tribe Called Quest singlehandedly created the lo-fi hip-hop genre that is still popular today. It's pretty incredible to see the trajectory of influence that they had when they made albums. They definitely had a perfect run as far their discography goes.
Not to rip on ATCQ (They are GOAT tier), but they didn't create the lofi genre. ATCQ is more Jazz rap type stuff, and they were pioneers in that genre along side De La Soul, The Roots, and Digable Planets. They also directly influenced the groups and people that eventually pioneered Lo-Fi, such as Nujabes
I feel like you guys focus more on popularity and impact with these vids more than what you actually like more, like you literally said that Denzel not being super popular hurt his case. I still like when you guys do this stuff I just wish you would focus less on the objective aspects and more on just what you like. Nevertheless, keep up the good work and I still love you're content❤
I love the how you 2 express your opinions. 2 articulate Hip hop heads subjectively discussing the art form. Love it! You earned a new subscriber. Cheers.
Mmlp2 is fire, honestly my favourite post hiatus Eminem album, the lyricism on that album is top tier and I think it does a good job at being a sequel to mmlp
The delivery in Legacy/Beautiful Pain, lyricism in Bad Guy/Evil Twin, emotions in Headlights. Survival, Rap God, The Monster are phenomenal. Then his rap-rock songs that go crazy like Berzerk, Wicked Ways, Asshole. Don't Front is SUCH a hidden gem as well, MMLP2 is 🔥
@@quablo8962 fair enough, but to me I can only see stronger than I was being considered as a terrible song (although I personally like it, the least out of all mmlp2 songs but if nothing at least the lyrics of it are phenomenal) and on deluxe desperation (I also don't enjoy it as much as other songs and the lyrics are not the best but it's still not terrible to me). About the rest I think all songs have a good point and a reason why they exist and why they are put on the album titled "The Marshall Mathers LP2", you could argue about maybe so much better or love game, but I think they do serve a purpose at showing how his hatred for bitches is still the same as it was during mmlp, plus I enjoy so much of both songs. The song I don't enjoy as much is asshole, but it has amazing lyrics so to me it's also not a bad song.
I’m a cudi fan, but I’d throw him in good. Man on the Moon 1&2 are certified classics for both Cudi and the genre, but he hasn’t had that momentum since. Even though I enjoyed Man on the Moon 3, and even some earlier projects, it didn’t have the impact both the first two projects did. Still, Cudi to me is a legend.
Pink Friday is a class in terms of female rap. It's really easy to say it's not when you stack her up against her contemporaries but at the same time just like we don't mix in trap and traditional , conscious , or experimental rap , it is not fair to do the same to her. Without Pink Friday half of the female rap population would simply cease to exist , I know most times this is credited to Lil Kim with albums such as Hardcore but as far as modern rap and especially modern female rap , I don't know if there is a album more important to the landscape. Nicki was ruling that scene for a hot minute and miraculously still is whether through her directly or the branches off her tree of influence. In fact I guarantee if that same question was asked to people such as Doja Cat , Megan Thee Stallion , City Girls , and countless others they would say the same. For better or for worse depending on how you view female rap , Pink Friday changed the scene for female rap and modern pop music in general I believe.
Not a Nicki fan but i agree with your comment, she def pave the way to the new gen of the likes of Doja and Cardi (the first time i hear Bodak Yellow i though it was Nicki), my favorite song from her is Champion, really like the conscious rap of the song
Earl staying in good is a crazy hot take besides being one of the best lyricists of our generation, he's also undeniably one of the most important artists when it comes to showing off vulnerability and losing your grip from time to time. Of course that doesnt mean that the more depressed you are, the better you are as a musician LMFAO but rather that in its own definition, he DOES have a classic, if not multiple. Some rap songs will go down in history as one of the best albums ever in my eyes
Yeah can't believe he's that low... sure he has earl and sure feet of clay is an acquired taste but all his studio albums meet a pretty damn high standard
Vince Staples didn’t make the cut? He’s easily had one of the best artistic developments with “Vince Staples” and “Romana Park Broke my Heart” both being exceptional albums with great production and his utilization of said production is fantastic. Definitely upset to not see it mentioned here
Ghostface: Great Wu Tang: Good (If you include all the group member's solo albums then it's amazing) Mobb Deep: Great (2 Classics, but the rest were meh)
@@Maxipadtriplesix 2 classics and 1 strong album. So yeah pretty good but I wish they could’ve done more because they had so much potential to be one of the most consistent rap groups ever. Should include The Roots should be included and they are one of the most consistent rap groups ever.
@@WarningBFG-isHiring I agree, when I was a teenager, I was obsessed with Wu Tang. If you asked me then, I would have said perfect. But now, with perspective, there was a clear drop off in quality after Wu Tang Forever, and even worse drop off with 8 Diagrams. I think you could make the case that Tical through Ironman were all group albums since RZA was still the only producer and almost all of the features were Wu Tang.
16:50 the thing is he doesn't drop as much albums as other artists do so he hasn't been able to show his discog off as much but every project is definitely quality. His quality so good he already has a major influence.
They gave it a Great because he has the chance to slip up. If they are going to use that logic for Travis then it should be applied to BIG (which I personally think is a dumb argument). Travis has a near perfect run for me. Definitely better than drakes and ems because it has no flat out fails.
gettin tired of people saying yachty has a bad discography whenever the last album they listened to from him was lil boat 2 or teenage emotions. nuthin 2 prove, lil boat 3, and michigan boy boat have changed the way his fans listen to him.
Lol. Fantano would tear them apart. They are incredibly inconsistent and lean too heavily on what’s popular. Their opinions are never super original or shocking. They would simply agree with most of what he says. And if they disagree then he’d rip them apart. Melon is the almighty savior of music critics.
@@Hdingdong opinions always shouldn’t be shocking lmao, sometime everyone are right and agree with a common thing, like when pimp a butterfly dropped did anyone say that was a bad album, NO cause it isn’t. There are lotta opinions that they have that is different too like they don’t take care was drakes best album, and so on, it’s not always a bad thing to be a bandwagon
For Logic, Welcome to Forever was the first mixtape that FELT like an album to me... absolutely incredible. Not sure if he ever outdid that on his albums
@@Elightenment 4:44 highlights and focus songs are truly great, but i feel as a whole the record doesn’t get play like that, especially when compared to the heavy hitter classic lps
Mac I think personally should’ve made perfect. He changed a lot and he seamlessly did it not missing on a album. But glad to see he didn’t drop under amazing
@@thebohr11 Agree with you about Pac and biggie. Kanye?? Nah bro. Kanye is arguably the best album maker ever in rap history but he definitely doesn't have a perfect discography.
I'll admit Music to be Murdered by has 4ish skippable songs that I never go back to, but there are incredible tracks on this album. The only albums keeping Em's discography from being perfect IMO are revival, half of MMLP 2, and about a quarter of Encore. Even with the misses, it's still an Amazing catalog in my humble opinion.
Drake, Eminem, travis and Tyler are all amazing. They may have some misses but the highs are just as high or higher than Cole, Mac and especially carti
Yeah but drake has too many misses and Em yeah 1 or 2 misses out of 10 is ok but more than that isn't I also think ye should have been a tier lower because he has like 4 misses imo
@@MrASAPAB that's arguably but in my opinion En only misses are Revival, Encore,Relapse, and MMLP 2 other than that everything else imo are good or great.
@@trtorbelfort in terms of writing he’s really the greatest Kendrick Lamar quotes Jay Z at least once on every single one of his albums man has ghost wrote for some of the best in the game,
@@leespn4396 even on that front damn near half of his albums are classic Reasonable doubt volume one the blueprint the black album 444 the blueprint three
I always thought if Eminem retired after Relapse he would of had a solid top tier discographies. I started to lose interest after he completely switched up during the recovery era and onwards
@@djmeagaaim17it's not about having a perfect discography dude. I don't think Emjnem really cares about it. Think if he had retired after the TES we would have missed so many gems from him. So i think he's decided to do his work for the culture as much as he can.
@@djmeagaaim17 But the majority is still enjoying him. So i think he should do his work for some years from now. Even jay-z who's older than him hasn't retired 😅
@@Mcbikey24 I respect that illmatic is top 3 for sure greatest is arguable also it was written was great too but nas has like what 11 albums idk but he has atleast 4 misses maybe more but that doesn't take away from his greatness his catalog is good thats all
Lil Boat 1, 2, 3, & 3.5 are great. Summer songs 2, MBB, and Nuthin 2 Prove are nice as well. Yachty has an ok discography. There are a lot of filler songs on the projects tho
I love Pac but I wouldn't put him perfect his first two albums were pretty mediocre but his 3 album run after was amazing and Jay-Z American Gangster is amazing it's one of his best albums and Dynasty and Vol. 1 are also underrated albums 🔥
@@EazyRocko Strictly 4 My Niggaz was not mediocre. Keep Ya Head Up, I Get Around, Holler If Ya Hear Me, and Souljah’s Revenge are classic Tupac songs. Just cause an album isn’t a 10/10 or classic doesn’t mean it’s mediocre.
@@Christian-eq6pq it doesn't have to be 10/10 I just think either half or good amount had weak production or not Pac best rapping but I love Keep Ya Head Up, I Get Around, Streetz R Deathrow, Papaz song, Representing 93, Souljah revenge, 5 deadly venomz it's an ok album
He hasnt had a universally loved/praised album in nearly 20 years. Every album after Eminem show is debated on if its good or not. He has 3 undeniable classics and then everything else you can make a good case for ranging from good to horrible
@@0Architectdude0the Drake hate is so ridiculous that you guys lie to yourself 😂😂😂 I bet you have listened to more Take Care or NTWS songs in your life than any Denzel album Numbers don’t lie, nobody stay at the top for so long without talent 🤷🏻♂️
Great video, guys keep it up. I respectfully disagree with your Jay Z and Em takes. Eminem should be in amazing just for his three album run alone and Relapse if you are gonna have J. Cole there. Also Jay-Z is perfect, no question.
@@tqmper7153 having yachty below jack harlow on this kind of list should be a crime. His discography is at least mid, even if you dont like him. I would have him at good because he has extremely high highs but also lows for me in his discography
eminem has dropped way more bad albums than kanye lol. the only bad ye album is donda 2 and that doesn't really count since it's unfinished and he's currently working on it
Em deserves more love. MMLP2 is at least a great album and a respectable sequel to the original MMLP. There are so many underrated & underplayed gems on the album like Bad Guy, Legacy, Love Game, Evil Twin, Groundhog Day. (MMLP2 is his lyrically magnum opus imo)
For sure dude. MMLP 2 is in my top 3, I don't understand the hate. Besides some of the weird production, it was one of his best albums since the eminem show.
Great video. Your main problem is that you have “perfect” as the top tier. That word indicates flawless, but a flawed discography can be better than a flawed discography
Agreed, when I think of perfect discography I think of every album released is a 10/10 and I don’t think a single artist in their perfect tier qualifies for that except maybe Biggie, but that’s cheating when he only released two albums.
And their reason for dropping him to great was because his discog isn't as developed as Drake and Em? When they put Biggie in perfect with only 2 albums? How many albums an artist has in relation to other artists isn't how they were ranking until they hit Travis lol should just be based on what's been released.
while i agree that travis is a better artist than drake, he only has 3 albums, and one of those (birds in the trap) is pretty mediocre, so yeah travis doesnt have an amazing discography
@@lorenheckard5146 i feel like for a discography ranking its as well important to look at quantity (obv not near as impotant as quality), so id rather see biggie ranked lower then travis ranked higher
@@tannermarkland5214 you’re not a real hip hop fan anyways . So what would I except from a amateur like you. Your just mad that Drake is ranked higher than Eminem
@@staxx2353 “ranked higher than eminem” i can tell from that statement you gotta be 13-15☠️i dont even care about eminem but the fact that you think theres an objective ranking?? come on bruh lol
Man I gotta disagree heavily with the Earl placement, but enjoyed the video nonetheless. Love how y’all always go into these topics with level heads and at multiple angles.
@@librahz your probably only saying that cuz it's long but if it was shorter u wouldn't say that. Scorpion had great rap cuts like Survival, Emotionless, 8 out 10, Sandra's Rose,Mob Ties, Can't take a joke, Blue Tint, Elevate, March 14 and great singles like God's Plan, Nonstop, Nice for What, In My Feelings and Don't matter to Me and also Jaded and Finesse are great R&B cuts Scorpion was just long and had some skips it just need to be shorter
If Pusha T’s group work with the Clipse can’t be considered for his catalog, then Andre 3000 can’t use OutKast’s group work as a basis for his solo standing among the greatest in hip-hop.
That makes no sense because on a topic discussing albums you have to look at just albums 3000 never had basically a double career like pusha he started with outkast and ended that way
Ice Cube puts out a dud “You can’t hold that against him, he had 3 classics, he goes into amazing” Eminem puts out a Dud, even with having the best 3 album run of all time “He goes into the great category” 🤦♂️
he has multiple duds imo albums he has that dont stand up to his great albums encore revival kamikaze mtbmb cube having one dud lowers it less so than ems duds
Em has like a near decade of duds and he's actively trying to make the best albums that he can. Objectively you can say he has way more misses than makes
@@NFRPodcast The production is good, the features are sick, the flows are insane. Especially on Unaccommodating, Godzilla, I will and Book of Rhymes. He has like 3 songs that are double entendres. The song Darkness is genius. Leaving Heaven slaps. B side have some crazy beat switches. I mean the album is really really good. It has like 4 bad songs out of 30.
In MY opinion yall missed with Jack Harlow and J.Cole with jack yall say his mixtapes are bad but naw thats the best version of Jack nowadays hes lost his touch but listen to Loose and you'll see what im saying and with Cole his catalogue is very similar to Kendrick with the albums released and being high quality so he should also be in perfect
I feel like yall didn't take Wayne's mixtapes into consideration. Drought 3 and no ceilings are 2 of the top 5 mixtapes of all time. And Carter 3 is one of the best albums ever(Carter 2 is my favorite but feel like it's underrated). Not saying he should be in the perfect tier but the amazing tier no doubt
