It is very clear from their personalities on MasterChef, why Joe Bastianich is just a wine-maker, Gordon Ramsay is one of the most famous chefs on the planet, while Marco Pierre White is Gordon's teacher.
I didn't allow Gordon Ramsay to cry, he allowed himself to cry........ That was his choice to allow himself to cry - Marco Pierre White (Possible response) 😂😂
Yeah, that's not what happened. It's a myth. Pierre White didn't return Michelin star because those stars were not worth it, Pierre White retired from being a chef entirely because the work was too stressful and took up a lot of time. He returned the stars because he didn't think that if he's no longer cooking can the restaurants retain the stars. Pierre White refused to act like Robuchon, Ducasse or even Ramsay, once you've gotten older, you can delegate to your sous chef to maintain the restaurants, Pierre White didn't want to do that. Ramsay no longer works as a chef anymore, Ramsay sous chef runs his restaurants for him.
@@markarmage3776 Ramsay's sous chef might do the bulk of the work, but he's clearly very competent at it. Ramsay did a good job training the guy. Considering Marcus trained Gordon Ramsay, I have to wonder what it was that made him believe he hadn't done a good enough job training his sous chef for them to take over.
@@tek512 No, he trained his sous chef good enough, but that's contradictory to his belief to delegate. Chef means chief, you have to be directly working to be considered a chef. That's what Pierre White believed. He believes that people go to his restaurants to eat his food, the food that he cooks, not to eat his food cooked by somebody else.
@@propletrelooxretlitre5705 He did announced his retirement publicly. The restaurant is still there after he retired, he just no longer works there. And because he no longer works there, he believes that the restaurant no longer deserves the stars that he earned while he was there. That's why he returned the stars. Pierre White believe in the drastic ethical standard of a chef. It's not really good or bad but that's what he believed. If you go to a new 3 Michelin star restaurant, your food will be cooked by the head chef that earns those stars, only people with "culinary empire" delegates.
@@markarmage3776 He returned the stars because he realised that he was a better chef and knew cuisine better than the people who were giving him the stars. The stars are meaningless in this case. Everyone knows he's one of the best chefs in the world, he doesn't need stars to know that. The star also means that you've to run your restaurants a certain way to please the people who gave you the stars. No room for creativity or experiment, they expect you to be a robot who works that restaurant for the rest of your life. The stars also slowly progressively lost their meaning as well, bad quality restaurants would start getting stars, more and more restaurants would get 3 stars. The standards for the stars were just dropping.
The Beta: A pretend chef who frankly doesn't know what he is on about, looks to the Alpha for guidance. The Alpha: An actual chef with experience who teaches as he criticizes, has no time for the Beta. The Sigma: Taught the Alpha and and is the nightmare of Alphas and Betas everywhere. Can project the entire rage of the Alpha with a single look.
Gordon gives constructive criticism that can actually help the cooks to learn and be a better chef. While Joe is like a 90s story mode video game’s NPC chef
Gordon can be a real beast in kitchen once he has the power to do so. Marco projects the anger of a beast with just his glare while remains calm. As for Joe... his attitude is like a beast.
Beta chef: Throws tantrum because he wants people to be scared. (They aren't) Alpha chef: When he gets angry and people are scared. Sigma chef: People are scared even when he is calm.
Believe me, I'm much more terrified of a calm person giving criticism than a guy blowing up in my face. Shouting tries to convince you that you screwed up; the calm criticism makes you feel like you screwed up.
It could be applied to teacher or lecturer as well, sometimes the more calm they are the more pressure students get because they are motivated to not disappoint them and they also could learn better properly, i mean just a tought making a calm teacher get angry or disappointed on you is quite a terrifying thing indeed. Yelling and insult non-stop won't achieve anything especially when their duty is to give constructive criticism and lesson so people can learn better, instead people would get demotivated or simply irritated by their behavior. Gordon is actually quite balanced if i say. Despite he is rarely calm, he is at least still giving valid criticism and advices for people to improve unlike disingenuous Joe.
The fact that Marco makes sure to remind the contestant that these things happen and not to give up, telling them that he himself made so many mistakes when starting off more than anyone else, should already tell you why he’s an Sigma.
Beta, Signa, alpha, what is all this shit? I’ve never met someone more insecure that someone who calls themselves an “alpha male”. The scariest people I’ve met in my life don’t say shit, they just beat you senseless and move on
Recuerdo una vez que Ramsey dijo que para poder lograr la receta del wellington la practice mas de 1000 veces, gente no sean ciegos! Esa es la realidad del verdadero chef, te lo digo por experiencia para lograr una receta tienes que practicarla muchas veces, fallar y te frustra! Pero cuando lo logras wow es otra cosa y los customers lo disfrutan...
Marco had a great moment on Masterchef when he asked a contestant who had visibly underperformed: ''If you gave that to your mother ... would she be happy''. No shouting, no swearing, just a way of directly telling the contestant he underperformed and wanted to make him realise that.
Because Marco is the only one of the three who has surpassed his ego. He just wants you to be a good cook, wants as many people as possible to enjoy good food.
Marco also grew up in old style European kitchens where the head chef could practically beat and berate out-of-line kitchen workers like slaves, so the fact Marco manages to maintain such calmness in the face of utter stupidity is a real testament to his class.
French. Both him and Gordon trained under the French in France, so they probably learnt the hard way. You can see discipline and major difference between Marco and Gordon
Hold on, there is a difference between working a professional kitchen and being in a TV show with amateurs. Marco knows who he is talking to and what standards to expect.
i find it funny that joe is the living embodiment of how most people think a "strict professional" looks and acts like. you can watch any movie with this trope and it's literally just joe in a different body he's also pretty much what most people believe gordon ramsay is
@@melingdiab6613Someone who's in their high horse without any backing to their complaints, and just assumes everything negative about you, that's pretty much it.
Joe is the kind of guy who acts tough, but gets mad when you smile or laugh at him. If he spit out my food like that, I would not be able to contain my laughter. He would definitely get mad, too. I love people like him.
@@farr0khb169 In short he secretly brought cameras to his wedding, which Marco didn't like. He also framed him for something and blamed it on Marco. Ramsay was secretly jealous of Marco.
@@dystopianfuture1165 That feud you mentioned was really quite a while ago (around 2000), and they have already reconciled and are on friendly terms again, at least according to articles from 2022 and onwards.
@@rocketduck44 I can't even lie dude. Those stock cubes changed my life. It doesn't help you make fine cuisine, but what it does, is help a guy who only ate TV dinner and ramen to learn how to cook. Marco Pierre White and his ridiculous Knorr memes actually helped me level up. It's cool.
Older Marco is like a cuddly grandpa compared to his younger self. It's like he went through some self-reflection and has decided that yelling wasn't working and that he needs to be more direct and precise with his feedback. Or he realized that he was 10 times more terrifying when he was quiet.
Beta: throws a fit and nobody’s impressed or threatened Alpha: eloquently expresses disapproval and people feel remorseful, promising to do better next time. Sigma: quietness is directly correlated to how much fear you are feeling. The stare alone is enough to make you want to turn your life around.
@@edencieslowski9310 A sigma is a distinguished gigachad who doesn't need to prove himself to anyone anymore, but still chooses to do so anyway, because 5 people taught by MPW will go on to teach 15 people Gordan teaches, he's of the highest esteem. He's reached master prestige. His game is over, this is his New Game+ on Hardcore. He's reached culinary enlightenment. He requires no verification.
What makes Marco the best is that he achieved his "3-Michelin Stars" and "5-Red Forks & Knives"- the pinnacle of culinary excellence, and then just walked away. He said that he had achieved the highest level of distinction, yet didn't want to waste his life in maintaining that level, and further, to be judged by people who know less about the culinary industry than he. Boss Level->MAX
Exactly. He walked away at his peak and was dedicated to his craft. Chef Ramsay seems a master of culinary business though as a testament to his empire. Both are great chefs, I dnt care about the other one with bad manners 😂
He talked about how winning the Michelin stars meant he had to be on the attack, he had to differentiate himself from other chefs. Then when he had won his 3 stars, it became more about defence, protecting those 3 stars, and he didn't want to spend the rest of his career trying to protect his 3 stars, so he walked away.
Marco is a chef because he absolutely loves food, and wants people to be able to create the best food they possibly can. He doesn't care about critics or anything like that.
You're anxious about making a mistake with Gordon, because of how much you fear him But you're terrified to make a mistake with Marco, because of how much you wish to be like him
Joe's reactions a lot of times seem like he's playing it up, like he's hoping a producer will notice him and say, "He'd be a great host for a reality series" and then he'd be able to escape under Gordon's shadow
@@runnre his net worth is $15M give or take….i think Joe is doing alright You guys actually think the actors get Final Cut on their characters on Masterchef? Fox has producers and those producers are really experienced at selling characters.
betas and alpha’s will insult you directly but Marco will calmly ask you to explain yourself, forcing you to reflect and then hate yourself more than anyone else could ever hate you, and that’s terrifying
the "beta" will bark a lot like an annoying sh*t, the "alpha" might actually bite you, but the "sigma" will stick a knife right there where it hurts the most
Marco can teach cooking to anyone. He doesn't just complains. On the process, he ensures people understand what went wrong and what they should have done. Fabulous personality... kudos
He wasn't always like that. Back in the day he was a wolf. Chef's do not pull their punches but from what I've seen. As they get older, the relax a bit and become more calm in their approach.
I think deep down you might actually understand it perfectly. You just don't like it, and neither do I. Joe is the only one that is cruel in the culinary world. Others can be mean or aggressive on occasion, but he's legit cruel. He does it because he believes it's compelling, drives ratings, makes him 'like Gordon', and establishes some sort of culinary dominance. And perhaps even just your standard run-of-the-mill dominance too. Unfortunately, he's super wrong. It is compelling, but it compels people to be revolted. It does drive ratings, but it drives them down. It doesn't make him like Gordon, because Gordon is aggressive (at times, and other times quite endearing) not cruel. And it certainly doesn't establish culinary dominance. It establishes the kind of dominance where your boss comes into the office and threatens to just straight up fire the bottom 10% of performers this quarter, without giving any metric for "performance", you just have to figure it out. Then when you get fired, he insults you, makes a huge show of you leaving, and laughs at you. Thus, NOBODY except Joe's mother likes Joe. Try to find one comment on the entire internet praising his personality.
He had his fair share of being a pain in the ass with his cooks. He’s an old timer now, everybody knows him and respects him, he’s smart enough to know that there ia nothing left to prove and his nerves are now more valuable than ever. Why do you think he did the whole knorr stock pot promotion years ago? He doesn’t give a fuck about what people think anymore.
People eat (pun intended) that shit up. Drama and conflict is what draws people to these shows, far more so than cooking or the competitive aspects. That's just the unfortunate reality of American Reality TV (though I won't lie, it can be sort of entertaining when genuine).
It's all for ratings. Gordon has made a career out of being le angry english chef and he definitely plays it up for the cameras because reality tv is his main job now
As a trained London chef who had Marco as a guest lecturer I can confirm that look of superiority is always locked in... And he is unexpectedly hilarious
How did you end up becoming a chef? How long did it take you to become a professional chef? And was being a chef something you’ve wanted to do as a career since you were in high school?
@@beaucaspar3990 studied a professional chef diploma at Westminster Kingsway College in Victoria, London. Course was 3 years, pretty tough but well rounded ( studied classic cookery /pastry/front of house/food science) and great connections with the industry lots of us went on to work at The Savoy, The Ivy, Michelin star establishments or start our own things. I ended up loving the food science studies, left chef land behind and became a dietitian 😂
@@nousnous4361 A dietitian, that’s a pretty good job. That sounds like a pretty exclusive college you studied at, was it really expensive to go there? And how long was you a professional chef before you left and became a dietitian?
@@beaucaspar3990 that particular diploma course was more exclusive than the college itself oddly enough. In the UK you're expected to continue some form of education up to 18 yes old so the course allowed anyone aged 19 and under to enrol for free. If you were 20+ then you had to pay pretty hefty fees. Luckily I was 18! However you did have to pay for chef whites uniforms, knife kit, books etc. Literally a chef for 6 months and thought nahhh I miss using my brain lol
Joe is the guy who likes to talk smart and be an ass Gordon is passionate and most goes after people who aren't passionate any or making basic mistakes at such a high level Marco is just a legend
@@TheTraxxxmaster Bro your comment just made me laugh like a literal goblin. Please answer the phone this way at least once. Do it for your new pal Vinchinzo from the internet.
One thing i love about Marco is that before a restraunt take over challenge. He stops everyone before it stops and hypes everyone up. He gives a speech and reminds them the finish line and whats at the end. He tells them if you want it fight and give me your best. He hypes everyone and gives them motivation.
Gordon and Marco: Craps on your life, but gives you criticism in order to make you a better chef and improve your skills Joe: Craps on your life...thats it really
What Marco and Gordon has in common is that they want the best out of you. Even if you fail, so long as you have tried with your whole being, you have a chance
@@areyousureaboutthat3457 I'd rather get a brutal criticism from gordon and marco than the balding dude who obviously looks like he doesn't know what it is to be a masterchef.
@@peanutgallery5427Marco somehow convinced Gordon to come back after throwing pots and pans when Gordon jumped the gun and made the sauces that Marco was supposed to make when Gordon then afterwards ran out crying seemly quit after throwing off the apron
Marco is the man, and the best mentor of the 3 by far. He's the only one that doesn't completely lose his cool and scream out personal insults at people. Most of what I've seen with him, his criticism is always constructive.
Wrong analysis. The best “mentor”, which is the criteria you established, is the one who is flexible and can lose his cool and use personal insults in the guys that need it and give calm criticism when needed. He’s adaptable and has deep human understanding.
Joe's presence would have me trying my hardest to hold back smirks and all sorts of cues to make it seem like Im taking him seriously. This is what giving power to a pretentious beta does for us all, everybody.
One thing worth mentioning here is that the US version of MasterChef (where Joe and Gordon are judges/hosts) is made in a much more overly dramatic way, as the US versions of shows usually are. They tend to dial the drama up a few notches. So the way the judges behave is very much a part of that. The Australian MasterChef (the superior version if you ask me) where Marco has been a guest judge several times, is much more 'relaxed' and undramatic so the behavior of the judges reflects that.
Same reason I like a lot of Gordon's UK versions of shows, tbh. The American ones are fun, but they're also such a headache and I feel like I learn more with the other version.
I'm glad we're all in agreeance that MasterChef Australia is the better show. I HATE the US version, only because it relies more on drama than cooking, whereas with MasterChef Australia you get great cooks with great advice who actually give constructive criticism but don't degrade their contestants. That's honestly why I don't like American reality tv because we tend to focus in on drama, crappy sound effects and bizarre editing that I'm not gonna lie, makes me dizzy sometimes, where as MasterChef Australia feels more natural and chill. Even Kitchen Nightmares UK I enjoy more than the US version BECAUSE it focuses more on the relationships between Gordon and the staff and sometimes the staff with each other but it's not at a point to where it feels overdramatized. The lack of music also makes the show that much more enjoyable, it feels like you're with them AT THAT MOMENT.
Marco leaves no room for denial, he asks you the questions you usually ask yourself, you'd feel like he read your mind, and at that point you'll only be able to either tell the truth, or lie to YOURSELF, not to him.
I find it interesting how Marco trained Gordon and yet their styles of “intimidation” I guess are entirely different, Gordon gets loud and the room rumbles, but Marco just looks up with a certain look and time itself begins to tremble
That’s because Marco mellowed out and left the Michelin star scene. He was basically Gordon but scarier in his early years. Give it time and Gordon might become similar.
@@N0noy1989 Yep, people dont have a clue about what it was like, and still is, in many Michelin kitchens. Back in the old days cooks got actually physically beaten by chefs for screwing up. Not screaming in their face, they got punched in the noggins or stomach for fucking up. And thankfully that shit is pretty much over nowadays. That is a horrible way of leadership, its not how you get the best out of people. You want them to respect and admire you, not fear you. Fear screws shit up way more than anything else
@@retrowave9536 you don’t need school to be a chef, Gordon has trained under various highly regarded French chefs. He is a chef it’s a position that doesn’t require a degree.
@@Iceican I don't care who he trains with he's not chef on paper that's like a kid going to the police academy pre training to be a cop but not a cop or jrotc acting like a soldier but not a soldier 🪖 Ramsey's in the same boat
@@retrowave9536 Your comparisons are bad, the most accurate thing to say will be "a soldier trained by the biggest rank generals". The thing is technically he isn't a chef, but he has Michelin stars, with that I mean that he is more than prepared to critize people
@@ginsoxx92 he has no right to criticize anyone where this man can't even make scrambled eggs and at the end of the day he doesn't have that paper so you're trying to justify somebody that isn't a chef he's just a TV guy with a personality nothing more
when gordon ramsay commands presence, marco radiates it. Gordon makes you truly know you fucked up when he melts down, Marco simply just raises his head and you knew, you fucked up real bad.
If there was a video game where you had to cook against chefs, Marco would be the final boss. Gordon would be before Marco, and Joe would just be in the tutorial of the game.
I like how the one time in this video Marco is genuinely angry, he doesn’t make a big scene out of it. He makes a joke and orders the kitchen to fix the problem instead of smashing plates and throwing food
@@christopherstein2024super simple dishes aren't his thing honestly. But he's just incredible at making very elaborate gourmet dishes. It's like when you correctly responding to the difficult question of the test and fail the easy one
Love the respect Marco gets, I enjoy Ramsey as a TV personality, but you can tell Marco has more empathy for the cuisine than for those who make the dish. He almost laments over failed dishes as one does when giving a eulogy for a wrongful death.
In polish Masterchef, while MPW was a special guest, he was so wholesome. Judging a lot, but also teaching with no anger. And he also learnt a thing or two while being there. Trully a man who follows a rule: a true master is an eternal student.
The masters in any field would never claim to be masters, they would claim to be clueless because there is so much still to learn. The more you learn about a subject, the more you learn about how much you dont know.
Joe isn't a chef. He's a bully with no way to help. Also, there's a great clip of a chef who makes a sausage roll with an Italian twist. Search up "Gordon Ramsay eats the perfect sausage roll". Gordon absolutely loves it and Joe says and I quote "I don't know, I've never even heard of a sausage roll until about 5 minutes ago". The two actual chefs loved it but his goofy ass is just full of it.
Joe wants to act like Gordon. Much respect for Gordon and Marco. Both legends. Also the french guy that tought Marco everything. Forgot his name. But man, what a teacher must have been.
Marco is and will always be the best chef in the world in my opinion. His cooking videos on youtube are so simple and so easy to follow. I also love his obsession with beef stock pods for seasoning lol
I absolutely love and admire Marco Pierre White, his style is so refined, elegant and deep, even when he was young, you coyld feel his energy through the screen.
Marco is the king the master and the best. Not only because of what he has achieved but also because of the person he is. He leads and inspires chefs to be more then they realise they can be
Marco Pierre White is a God father of cooking. He’s gonna be hard, but he’s gonna be fair. He’s been through all the cycles of arrogance, humbleness, and now he’s moved past all of it and is a pinnacle in the chef community. Comparing him to the beta chef, wouldn’t work. The only time he would be in Marcos kitchen, would be to eat.
