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Better Acoustic Tone on the Axe-Fx III, FM9, FM3 -- Fractal Fridays with Cooper Carter #3 

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@bobmarton9913
@bobmarton9913 Год назад
First thing I noticed is you add mids in the Tube amp then remove it from the EQ then add it back in the compressor That sounds a lot of extremely confusing mid settings. Maybe leave it all as flat until and forget the eq set the amp flat then bring to taste with the comptressor
@TocoaPuffs
@TocoaPuffs 3 года назад
I've spent a lot of hours trying to figure out how to get my acoustic sounding good for gigs with my FM3. I've gotten away with "good enough" but this is making me excited to plug in. I love that tiny bit of chorus trick.
@justinTime077
@justinTime077 Год назад
What are you do during those hours? Sounds like you’re sitting back noodling on your skin flute rather than trying things in fm-edit!
@ryanadams1483
@ryanadams1483 3 года назад
I use my FM3 for my live acoustic gigs. I use IR’s but never thought to use a pre amp set up. Thanks for the help.
@FastRedPonyCar
@FastRedPonyCar 8 месяцев назад
I also use an FM3 with my acoustic live and even though you can get it sounding pretty good with what the FM3 comes with, a proper acoustic IR block really makes a huge difference.
@Lexxo777
@Lexxo777 2 года назад
The Tube pre does indeed work great for live acoustic gigs, adds body, mojo and a hint of drive, it does a great job.
@josephrogero7988
@josephrogero7988 2 года назад
Good tips, I have an FM3 and use a cab block to load an Acoustic guitar IR. I also put GEQ block in parallel. Then I blend some dry signal back in. Works pretty well.
@bradfoisy7034
@bradfoisy7034 Год назад
thank you so much for this, absolute game changer for my live acoustic sound.
@justinTime077
@justinTime077 Год назад
Sick ass vidjya my friend, thanks. You showed me a lot more that I needed than just how someone might set up their acoustic with fractal
@GaryMcNeill
@GaryMcNeill 2 года назад
Wow.... this is ana absolutely amazing difference in sound!
@curlzwalk
@curlzwalk 2 года назад
Excellent video!! Thanks CC!
@edrosenquist6541
@edrosenquist6541 Год назад
Thanks! I'll try this out this Sunday, since my Fishman Loudbox fizzled out... Sounds great! Why didn't I think of using my FM9 for acoustic?!!!
@josevillarreal4897
@josevillarreal4897 Год назад
That sounds great man. Thanks so much 🙏🏻
@fredmillard5018
@fredmillard5018 2 года назад
Cooper, as usual thanks. I’ve now got an amazingly great sounding acoustic sound. May add a pitch block for 12 string sim.
@marcelosilveira.guitar
@marcelosilveira.guitar Месяц назад
Very nice, sir!!
@bryanfarless9579
@bryanfarless9579 2 года назад
Thank you, really appreciate the tutorial, well done.
@AudioAtmos
@AudioAtmos 3 года назад
Great tips. Sounds great. Thanks!
@mrmoon5001
@mrmoon5001 2 года назад
I was looking into the Fractal FM3 for acoustic guitar. This was interesting but my Gurian JR with a Sunrise pickup, BBE Acoustamax preamp, to an Eventide H9 sounds far better than what you're getting. I see the problems as you're using a Taylor dreadnought, a Taylor pickup, killing the mids (bad idea), and accentuating the plastic sound of the pick. Your initial sound has a plastic sound which with all the effects you're adding doesn't make it very pleasant sounding.
@justinTime077
@justinTime077 Год назад
Fractal for everything guitar, brother man.
@yeahwhatevermike
@yeahwhatevermike 3 года назад
You should share the preset on axe exchange forum
@rustywilmot
@rustywilmot Год назад
I second this!
@jnparesa
@jnparesa 10 месяцев назад
Great video
@JANDRE08
@JANDRE08 2 года назад
Awesome! Thanks dude
@michaelgregory2231
@michaelgregory2231 2 года назад
Great info here, thanks!
@sboy1955
@sboy1955 Год назад
Sounds pretty great, have you tried building a preset with acoustic IRs?
@jimmynorris
@jimmynorris 2 года назад
I have been using the boss AC-3 on my electric to cop acoustic tones. It has been fair, but not good. Using these techniques, I have a pretty good sound. It is not a real acoustic, of course, but does a the job. Thanks!
@Teleman01
@Teleman01 Год назад
I actually borrowed this idea you have here to use in a professional environment. It sounds great. And so far is the best preset design I have seen for acoustic guitar. The guy I take care of plays a lot of bluegrass style lead. What I am finding is, when he plays lead on the high notes, they can be a bit thin. I'm going to try to use a pitch follower on the high frequencies only. Maybe that will take care of some of that. I'll let you know how it goes!
@Taustavoima
@Taustavoima 2 года назад
Nice video. I use acoustic IR and compressed and EQed DI signal in parallel with my AX8
@fishmank27
@fishmank27 Год назад
This is awesome. The enhancer was something else! Thanks! Oh and no IR! I have a few IRs that are based off some captures of certain guitars and I noticed the “proximity” dial seems to add bass. Maybe a good thing if there’s less of a band?
@vindellsmith
@vindellsmith 9 месяцев назад
great vid
@pclindholm
@pclindholm Год назад
Love that m comp
@Spielkind45
@Spielkind45 2 года назад
Great. Thanx man!
@Smittefar1
@Smittefar1 3 года назад
I love using my acoustic with the AxeIII - I do use IRs, and it definitely helps, but Cooper got really far. I really like the Warm Stereo Chorus for acoustic, it just lifts it up - I would also always add a standard compressor block (most likely optocomp or tube comp) with my acoustic guitar. This is also mostly standard in all studio recordings of acoustic guitars.
@coopercarter
@coopercarter 3 года назад
Depending on the pickup, I like a standard comp block for acoustic, too. Not always necessary though I've found.
@lawrencekovalcik8848
@lawrencekovalcik8848 9 месяцев назад
Thx for this!!!..👍
@chiefpotpipe
@chiefpotpipe 2 года назад
Be fun to try my new Yamaha A3R with the SRT mic emulation!
@jorgea3507
@jorgea3507 2 года назад
So if I understand this, I can use FM9 DI to FOH with electric and Acoustic for live applications using inputs and both xlr outputs 4 total. (stereo)
@larslars8379
@larslars8379 3 года назад
Another very nice effect I think is, pan the short delay (about 30 to 60 ms) to the left or right, this gives a nice stereo spread :-)
@coopercarter
@coopercarter 3 года назад
Yep, I like this, too. The enhancer is the same this as this method, more or less, especially when set to "Classic"
@chrischriston4897
@chrischriston4897 Год назад
Very nice video, very helpful! Thank you Cooper👌 In a live situation, I would of course like to have my electric guitar and my acoustic wired in parallel, without having to unplug the electric guitar and plug in the acoustic every time, or vice versa. Is there an “official” way to achieve this?
@curlzwalk
@curlzwalk Год назад
Observation, when the MBC is turned on CC says "A lot more body, right off the bat" well looking at the 3 Output Levels, Each one is boosting by 6db. Shouldn't we expect it to sound louder and fuller when boosting? Yes. I set all 3 bands to 0db, then normalize the MBC block level bypass/active so Block Output is +3db. The when turning on the MBC it has only a very slight affect on the tone, at otherwise stock settings.
@AndreVieiraguitarist
@AndreVieiraguitarist 5 месяцев назад
Sweet! This works for a JP piezo system as well correct?
@stratkimstratkim4686
@stratkimstratkim4686 2 года назад
Where do I download presets?
@Harrysound
@Harrysound 3 года назад
I’ll stick to the mic setup, it’s a right pain but can’t beat the sound.
@MPacman79
@MPacman79 3 года назад
Great video! Do you know if a mic can be connected to the FM3, so that it is possible to use the interface of the FM3 to record acoustic guitar without pickup-system?
@robertw1871
@robertw1871 2 года назад
Exactly, you might as well pick up an electric and EQ it to sound acoustic if you’re going to use a pizo pickup, no feedback and much easier… mic is definitely best if your looking for decent tone…
@johnfrancis8586
@johnfrancis8586 3 года назад
Great stuff as always Carter. How about a piezo pickup in a solid body guitar? Same approach?
@Smittefar1
@Smittefar1 3 года назад
In that case, I would try to record an IR to 'translate' the tone. I would also use the multi-band-compressor to simulate a bit of body resonance; have a band around from 200 to 500 Hz, with a healthy (7-10 dB) gain reduction (and equal make-up gain). This will make the body sound come in with all sustained notes. The attack and release will sort of control the character of the modelled acoustic. Release should be pretty slow (500 ms or similar)
@nuntiantisnuntiantisvicem6468
@nuntiantisnuntiantisvicem6468 2 года назад
Does it matter which input you enter the acoustic guitar in Ax Fx III. Thank you for your response
@harleyosterlund5796
@harleyosterlund5796 Год назад
Is there a polyphonic octave option on the unit like the boss octave pedal
@samuelholder
@samuelholder 3 года назад
This is so great! Do you ever use the IR player? If so where would you put it in the chain?
@G66eu
@G66eu 3 года назад
You can use the IR player wherever you would use a cab block. It is a simplified version of the cabinet block.
@samuelholder
@samuelholder 3 года назад
@@G66eu I had the IR player in front of the AMP after the comp. You'd recommend after the AMP?
@heut4384
@heut4384 Год назад
Hi, I'm trying to find out if AXE-Fx III if the acoustic-simulator tone is decent for, both, 6 strings and 12 strings. There's only ONE or TWO people in RU-vid (or demoing) using electric guitars, but these guys play really awful and their sound system is bad so I can't even hear if Axe-Fx 3's acoustic sound is good enough for me to buy a $2.5k modeler. Lol. I've been listening your demo using your real acoustic (and a few others), but I just wanna know if your regular electric guitar can actually use your patch as well? Or are we limited to use the regular acoustic-simulator tone if we want to use our electric gtr? I do have a Roland GR-55 (if you haven't used one) and I do know that the 6 and 12 string acoustic tones are great. so I'm just tyring to use my GR-55 has a bench. Thx.
@googleprofile9893
@googleprofile9893 2 года назад
Why FM9 has not acoustic simulation?
@harleyosterlund5796
@harleyosterlund5796 Год назад
Is there a polyphonic octave option on the fm3?
@r.llynch4124
@r.llynch4124 3 года назад
How about using this with a piezo bridge on an electric?
@798125
@798125 3 года назад
I use a DTAR mama bear acoustic preamp to make my acoustics with piezoelectric pick ups sound exactly like a miked up acoustic guitar and if I could make a tone match of that preamp that would be the ultimate way to use the axe effects for making an acoustic with a piezoelectric pickup sound like a miked up acoustic. Has anyone tried this already? If not I will give it a go and share the IR.
@starbadger2016
@starbadger2016 3 года назад
Hi could you please share where you got that desk from :)
@coopercarter
@coopercarter 3 года назад
I designed and built it myself!
@clintverville784
@clintverville784 2 года назад
ok so the next question i have is can you do this with dual acoustic guitars in 1 unit?
@JeffrStarkey
@JeffrStarkey Год назад
Yep, there are 3 different input blocks and output blocks
@clintverville784
@clintverville784 Год назад
@@JeffrStarkey tanks mang
@redcomn
@redcomn 2 года назад
Hey i even plug old ass roland rompler synth into it.
@michalwalas9960
@michalwalas9960 2 года назад
What model of Taylor is it ??
@im58woody
@im58woody 2 года назад
710ce
@n0nyabznss
@n0nyabznss 2 года назад
Nothing will beat a properly mic'ed acoustic guitar. Pair that with the output from the pickup and then blend it. Shame you have a decent acoustic and you're killing its tone by simply putting it through the fractal box.
@JeffrStarkey
@JeffrStarkey Год назад
Having a mic'ed up acoustic guitar is not practical for many live situations. If that's not a concern for you then don't use it.
@francescodefelice6650
@francescodefelice6650 9 месяцев назад
Thanks a lot.❤
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