Beer bottle scene is so good, Kim starts chucking bottles off the balcony, Jimmy joins in after. The morning after, Kim goes to clean up the mess while Jimmy goes to work. This pretty much sums up their relationship in the show.
This is such a phenomena take and view. Such a simple scene offers so much characterization of Kim and Jimmy and especially their relationship. Both make the mess, one feels bad and cleans it up. Definitely indicative of Kim’s complex character and her contrasting morals. Phenomenal view!
Hindsight is always 20/20. We can see the plot unfolding to it’s inevitable end in scenes like the bottle breaking. Kim isn’t fully into the ethics-bending like Jimmy is. Kim can’t live with the messes she makes, Jimmy can ignore them.
@@MisterzzYT late to the party as I just finished the show today. I got to say it’s just a masterpiece in filmography Also wants to say that with quality like this it’s a matter of time until your RU-vid channel takes off
Breaking and cleaning up the bottles forshadows the end of the show. She helps Saul break Howard Hamlin, then at the end she cleans up the mess by confessing to what she did. .
It really does represent them so well. They enable and encourage one another to commit crimes and bend their morals and eventually they destroy themselves and others. Great pickup
Its also a great subversion for characters like Kim. She is the "love interest" type character who we thought going to be the decent, pure and hardworking person that will push other characters to be a better version of themselves. We thought she was going to be like that but we were wrong. So very wrong lol
Easily my favorite character in the show for me. Seeing her slowly develop and embrace alot of the toxicity Saul portrays was so incredible. I remember when she and Jimmy break up and she says "I was just having so much fun" with tears in her eyes, aware of the evil she carries, disgusted by her actions......man. So well done.
I see it as couple of one veteran junkie and the other a non drug user. The junkie from time to time manages to give taste of the drog to the non drug user until makes her an equal with him. I never liked her, when she worked in HHM she was such an enabler. She acted like a brainwashed employe by the company where she working in. But when she feels she can't take it anymore, woooohaaa suddenlly she sees beyond HHM. Seriously? And.... Her morality... She always acts like she has moral values but at the same time she's morally flexible. Her sense of right and wrong has blured side and they very debatable. Also I always see her as using Jimmy as a pet, not really being a lover. Maybe like a frind with whom she lives and have sex but she doesn't have romantic feelings, she avoinds discutions about the relationship or feelings like it's a taboo topic between them, she avoids emotional intimicy. This a why I don't like her. She's also very non charismatic and could towards others, is like she's so basic, her personality has no shape of color, she's netrual, grey...ultraboring and in contrast with Jimmy's personality who is the exact opposet, he's like a ultracolorfull perrot and extroverted and charismatic.
No one ever mentions that Kim wears that same exact earring every single time. The ones her mom stole for her. She wears them as a burden until Howard's death and she leaves town. When we see her again she's wearing nothing because she feels like nothing. Cut to the end she is wearing earrings of her own choosing. The burden is lifted, she can move on.
I think the way Kim and Saul/Jimmy always smoke together is one of the best pieces of foreshadowing I’ve ever seen. To me it represents them pushing each other towards mutually assured destruction and with how the show has them sharing cigarettes very early in the show before their relationship really develops, it’s one of the many things that makes this show so excellent with visual storytelling and symbolism
Also cigarettes represent rebellion and being able to do what you want in the moment. Like smoking outside your job or for example jail. When your boss is walking all over you and you had a bad day at work or, a inmate the least you can do is smoke and have control in that moment.
It's also an interesting point that we never see Jimmy smoking alone, he only ever smokes with Kim, and in those scenes it's always Kim who hands Jimmy a cigarette, never the other way round. Although subtle, it's an example of how they both enjoy participating in each other's vices.
They lacked boundaries, imo. Jimmy is a walking red flag, but Kim always always always took his side. Prior to "Chicanery", Kim was firm on Jimmy. And then I think she softened to him, until they became enmeshed. They got so close, they ended up on each other's "other" side.
In a lot of respects, Howard might have been a good boss to work for. When he finally stood up to Chuck, he made it clear that it was all about protecting the firm. So if you can just make sure everything you do is translatable to the firm's benefit, you're good with Howard. No personalities, relationship conflicts, or anything else.
The McGill brothers have to be taken as a dual entity. Chuck and Jimmy complete each other. Everyone else was secondary. I'd even venture Chuck would not have been Chuck if his younger brother wasn't Jimmy or had they had a sister. Poor Kim just got involved with the wrong brothers.
Agreed with you on Kim's darker side. Jimmy at least got his motives clear, but Kim? I really don't know. Her eventual confession to Howard's wife just can not cover the damages that She & Jimmy did to Howard. To show his regret & love for Kim, Jimmy spends the rest of his life in jail, where is Kim's part of regrets?
@@freddiesimmons1394 Maybe not being to practice law again for her crimes. And yet in the end of the story, she just got back to her pro bono work, never have to receive the consequences of her actions because Jimmy had it all covered for her. Howard died for nothing.
@@ruggedland At least Skyler was forced to live in her shitty apartment, losing her job and had half of her family wiped out. Kim still has - A nice cozy house. - A stable job. - A good husband. - Good friends. - Not facing any jail time and the prospect of grand civil lawsuit is so unclear that it might of might not happen at all. - Become a lawyer again (I’m talking about the scene before DA Suzanne called her). She had it easier than anyone because she doesn’t lose anything that matters to her. Her only suffering was that she felt sad for 6 years and cried a lot but other than that, she’s fine and the audience loves it because she’s a fan favorite character.
@@nont18411 what crimes did she do that would be worth being disbarred? I'm pretty sure a lifetime of emotional scarring and being with someone who she doesn't satisfy her as much as Jimmy both count as consequences
@@emmyturner7385 explaining how her character is flawed isn’t anywhere close to misogynistic. I don’t entirely agree with his explanations of why she does certain things, but his viewpoints are still valid. There’s no sign of misogyny here
I think the best scene played by Kim in the history of mankind, for me, would be the waterfalls in the bus scenes, the way she nods 3 times before totally exploding into tears, not bursting, literally EXPLODING INTO TEARS, that definitely depicted how long she has held it together and pushed it to the ultimate end and even further. Kim is one badass bitch actor! I fucking love her!
My favorite part of the last scene between them is the visual symbolism. First Kims PoV, Jimmy in a literal physical cage We see Jimmys PoV, Kim behind a fence, her cage being an abstract one Then a shot of them both seperated with a gap between their own 2 cages. Both being prisoners of their sins. Ive admired the camerawork of this franchise for a while now and this is just one of many excellent examples of it.
I don't think I've ever seen a couple in any show or film that had better chemistry. I utterly believed their attraction to each other and those short moments when they got along and things were going well felt so good. Jim and Kim were why I watched the show.
I think the acting makes it work and the chemistry between the actors, but just going off of the script I dont think it works very well. Jimmy is manipulative and mentally abusive to a degree in how he uses Kim and Kim is aware of it but still goes along with it. Based on her skill level and intelligence along with her abusive mother, I dont actually find it reasonable for her to find Jimmy attractive.
@@bloopboop9320 If you don't think people marry people who abuse them in a similar fashion to the way their parents did, then you must be living under a rock.
@@gregorybrown9101 thank you for your entirely useless and redundant counter argument. Just because people do that doesnt mean it makes it logical within the context of the show. Kim is constantly an over-achiever and bases her self-worth off of helping people and being "good" while Jimmy is selfish and self-loathing who lies to her consistently during their relationship.
@@gregorybrown9101 again, congrats on not being able to argue or discuss a point. The issue isnt self destructive, the issue is that it is directly against her personality and interest at the same time. People will bend their standards in one area, but people rarely bend their standards in nearly all areas of their life. For example, the two of them getting married almost made me quit the show altogether. Quite literally right after Kim says "our relationship is over because you keep on manipulating me and lying to me" she then says "let's get married." That's gimmicky writing because the writer's wrote themselves into a corner and then had to 180 it due to the rule of everything having to be unexpected in the Breaking Bad universe. 90% of Better Call Saul's dialogue scenes are simple reversals of expectations, but it happens so often that it becomes expected. It isnt bad writing per say, but it's predictable.
The thing is jimmy continued multiple times to stop with the “bad” lawyer shenanigans but then Kim always comes in and convinces him to do it. Then he does it and he is able to live with the consequences but she can’t. If it wasnt for her he wouldn’t have gotten in nearly the amount of trouble he did
Yeah now that you mention it, why didn't the character of Kim wexler attract more attention. To me her character is the perfect representation of what the "strong independent woman" should be. She never had to say that she was, she just did.
Its because most people who champion strong female characters can only identify them in an environment of weak or incompetent male characters ie they believe for a woman to be strong the man has to be weak. In actuality calling for strong female leads shines brighter when her male counterpoints are idiots, I give you Kim Wexler.
Because the writing in these shows are real.. they are real character with real development in 10years + not a money grabing hollywood travesty of forced inclusion.
Love the use of season 6 music here. Stargazing and Lament for Howard are some of the best tracks in the show. Season 6 had some really good music. Also want to point out that a lot of Kim's actions that got her spiraling into the criminal world came from a need inside her to save Jimmy. This enabled him. She tried to save Jimmy from Chuck multiple times which enabled his schemes against his brother. She got back into scheming to save Jimmy in saving Huel (and their drifting relationship). She saved him from Lalo. She saved him from further interrogation by Cheryl. And I think she kept quiet about Howard's death throughout the 6 years to protect Jimmy from Mike, Fring and the Salamancas.
She always wants to save everyone and clean up their messes, but especially Jimmy. Definitely stemmed from her chaotic childhood with her mother. And thx, stargazing and lament for Howard are some of my favorites as well and I think I’ve used them in all three of my BCS vids lol.
Chuck caused all of Jimmy's issues . By telling him he couldnt change and scheming against him over and over , chuck made sure even if Jimmy wanted to change he wouldn't be allowed to . Chucks the big bad
At the same time, Chuck is mentally ill. It doesn’t excuse his actions and he was always an asshole who hated Jimmy, but I don’t think it’s fair to label him a “big bad” Definitely a foil and definitely an antagonist tho. Great comment.
@@MisterzzYT it would be interesting to see how Jimmy turned out if chuck had just backed him in HHM for the job . If he did then no saul . No saul means breaking bad would be so different ...keep up the great work btw
Ultimately, it's still Jimmy's fault. There were numerous points in the story where Jimmy pretty much had a dream job or significant wealth with no strings attached. Even if we're looking at it from the perspective of nurture, you still could say that when he saw his father get scammed, what he took away from it was for him to decide. He could have decided that it was his responsibility to be the wolf of the wolves. Hell, imagine prosecutor Jimmy taking out con-artists and criminals.
It was an affront to him that a con man who cut corners would become a partner in a firm he worked at. Howard didn't cut corners and did everything by the book. He also pointed out that Jimmy ultimately hurt everyone he is involved with.
Chuck is the big bad of the first half of the show (seasons 1 through 3), but Jimmy becomes the villain throughout the rest of the series. That's how I think of it.
Thank you guys so much for the support on my recent Better Call Saul videos. The love you guys have shown has been incredible and I truly cannot thank you guys enough. As stated in the video, this will likely be my last Better Call Saul video for a while besides one last “Ultimate Analysis” coming at the end of this year. I have so much planned for the future and I can’t wait to show you guys. So truly, Thank You ❤
Kim Wexler is not only the most complex person in the BB/BCS universe, but also one of the most complex and intriguing characters in all of TV history. Rhea Seehorn deserved much more critical acclaim and awards, especially since the show runners admit that Seehorn's performance was actually a driver in how the character developed. She was mesmerizing, couldn't take my eyes off her.
@@Adriana-eu6ty i love kim and like skyler. I think most people that hate skyler are probably gullible. The show purposely sets up skyler to look like a villain in order to TRICK the audience. In reality shes the only one in the show thats ACTUALLY doing everything for her family. She sacrifices her relationship with her son and relation ship with her sister and brother in law just so they dont have to feel the pain she feels. Her "cheating" was set up to only look like cheating from a far distance but then if you look even slightly closer she had already split with walter, got him out of the house and found out he was a criminal. I love kim for completely different reasons. Kim is objectively not a very good person (i dont think she is evil). She wants to do the right thing but constantly proves otherwise with her actions until she realizes that her actions effect other people more than she thought. But by then its too late. Its truly a tragic and incredibly complex story of morality and i love that about her.
Great series and great analysis. Kim has such a way of getting you to like her that when she left Jimmy (after 5 whole seasons!) I felt something like a sense of loss.
Never ceases to amaze me how people can even be convinced to... find joy in destroying people who haven't so much as harmed them. Feels like a waste of potencial for someone who might actually help a lot of people. Surely owning up to the harm caused, in some way improves the world, but also imagine if they might somehow turn thier skills to decent ends. Sadly the corrupt people they've benefited, in working with, are not as easy to get off on tricking. Maybe they're always want the easy path of tricking idealists to feel superior
I think part of the reason Kim is such a popular character for women as well as men is because we live in a time of so much awareness of addiction, and Jimmy/saul has an obvious addiction to being in the game. At least for me, I related to her so much for genuinely loving and caring for someone you know isnt making the right choices, knowing you won't be able to fix them and maybe not even wanting to at all, but you wanna live a life with them still. Covering for them is a thrill, its Us vs The World, and you may even be the only exception they would never consciously try to scam. So that can feel so great. When jimmy is willing to throw himself down for her in the end, able to admit honestly to her what he did and ACCEPT consequences no not just accept but force the legal system to give him the harshest consequences, christ if the scammer I loved in my life could do such a thing I would fill their commercary and visiting time whenever possible even after so long with no contact.
Their romantic relationship went back to their days in the mailroom & was on & off for years, remaining friends the whole time. It didn't begin after the 1st bar scam - that's when it started up again.
I didn't find it realistic that Saul would confess just to please Kim, and we can see he is ready to change and take responsibility for what he's done. If he wanted to change, he could have done something good with his skills outside of prison. What was the point of choosing to rot in prison except for the writers to conclude his character arc?
I can imagine him being incentivized to do it knowing that it allows him to come to terms with what he did. Think about it like this: if he doesn't confess, he spends 7y alone. No Kim to visit him. A shameful prison life where he thinks about what he will do when he gets out. But if he does confess, he can prove to her and himself that he can take accountability for his actions. That he can atone, and better: he can change. He can give a final F you to Chuck, and see Kim for the rest of his life, and he can think fondly of his life and reflect on it freely. Confessing is quite honestly just freedom for him, when he knows he'll just return to conning after 7y. He's too materialistic to stay away from unlawfulness, too talented at it and too entertained by it. Choosing 86y was a net gain for him because of how it affected the quality of his life going forward, as opposed to choosing 7y of hiding from the truth and trying to forget Kim.
Good video overall, but I take issue with your statement that Chuck "earned" Mesa Verde as a client. It was actually Kim who did all of the legwork. I think the series makes it pretty clear that the primary motivation for Chuck's convincing Mesa Verde not to stick with Kim (a sort of chicanery and conning on the post of Chuck), was done out of pride and spite towards Jimmy, as well as Kim given that she essentially chose Jimmy over HHM. But a small point really. Otherwise, great job!
I mean, Chuck did earn it. He didn't use shorthanded methods to convince them. He was intelligent and he used his wits the right way. So in that sense, he did earn it
@@errwhattheflip Nah, he stole it. He did 0 work in acquiring the client, chortling with Howard, until after Kim got them through the door. Sure, he did work for them afterwards, but he did not earn them. Masterful stealing though, but that's just business.
Since everyone propably pointed out most interesting stuff about Kim here, I just want to appreciate the show for showing and using some of childhood memories in a lot of cases and not make it "oh this person was evil from the start" but rather show how these past expierences ,even if small, changed the character of these people. Childhood is an extremely important part of life and especially in case of Kim, these important moments, even if few, pretty much shaped some of her traits. Children are a blank card and depending on how they grow up, different things may develop later and visualise themselves in not as usual ways as we sometimes expect. Better Call Saul doesn't just copy the same behavior from youth to adulthood but evolves it in an interesting way and also makes a point, that sometimes these things stay rooted very deeply in our minds and if we want to fight it, it's really hard, or it just straight up controls us. Not just trauma, but even how we were taught to live by our parent figure.
Kim is really the only character that tries to do good, with her pro bono work. There are others that are lawful, or treat people they know better, but none actually try to make the world a better place.
Just one thing: Saul and Kim did speak once during those 6 years, when they divorced. They divorce sometime around the start of Breaking Bad, we know this because Emilio walks into Saul's office immediately after and Jesse tells Kim about it outside. This is immediately after Emilio is arrested in a drug bust during episode 1 of Breaking Bad. Otherwise, great analysis!
You misremembered how Kim got put in Doc Review, not from Jimmy getting fired from Davis & Maine, but because she saw his unapproved TV advert without saying anything to HHM about it (because Jimmy lied to her about it being approved). He wasn't fired for that, though it was both strike one and strike two.
No one ever mentions how Kim gaslights Howard’s wife at the funeral/wake That scene was wild as fuck. Her story should’ve ended different tbh I feel she got off way too easy.
Kim (R.Seehorn) became a co-star. In some ways her and Lalo were upfront last two seasons. Incredible acting. Who would have thought this ended up almost a love story. My fav KW scene was with a Spanish version of 'My Way'.
The punishment that she inflicted on herself was the most terrible: Boredom. If she, out of guilt, had went to jail, commited suicide, forced herself to do heavy work, undergone physical torture... she would have felt that it wasn't ENOUGH, since she actually enjoys drama, pain and difficulties... She started in Florida the most horrible life for a character like her: bare of spark, meaning, fun, surprises, hard work, challenges... For me, it was one of the most painful moments to watch...
It feels like for the purpose of the video you cut out how much responsibility Saul has in this, he did make an active effort to push Kim into scamming and ultimately it was his actions that led to her spiraling into a monster, not some hidden maniacal evil deep in her psyche.
@@emmyturner7385 I have no idea how any of what you watched implies this channel has anything against women... Jimmy and Kim were bad for each other. Remember that she was the one who wanted to ruin Howard, against Jimmy's initial judgment. Sure Jimmy helped feed the resentment she had building in her, but by the end she also pushed him into crueler stunts. They literally say it in the show, together they're poison. They both share responsibility for what happened to Howard.
I love how you said that Heull was the most complex character in television. I mean we all want Heull to be happy am I right? Also I just found your channel and your content is great, i agree with not hammering bcs tho, it just ended and a lot of people are just realizing how great the show is. There are literally countless videos out now about the show. Its just youre right, same way the show came out slow and steady. No need to pump this content out quick because it takes time and should be respected
Thanks. I’ll likely be making a sort of “Ultimate Analysis” of BCS at the end of this year and that might be the only video I upload in all of December, but for a little I’d like to shift my focus away from BCS. Thanks for understanding and I really hope to see you in my next videos. Might revisit BCS in half a year or so but for now I’ve said most of what I’ve wanted to say. So again, thank you so much for supporting me and thanks for understanding.
I’ve watched so many video analyses of characters from the BCS and BB universe and my main take away is that every main character is at least a little bit morally corrupt.
@@MisterzzYT I don't think thats really all that fair. BCS and BB hyperfocus on criminals and criminal enterprise. ofc those people are largely immoral. Its part of the game
Kim's hate for Howard is justified, the way he discarded her so easily and talks down to her, but stooping down to Jimmy's level was stupid. She should have just started her own practice and stolen all of HHM's clients and gone head to head with Howard every chance she could get, or cut him off compeltely would hav ebeen the most healthy. She is the essential Devil's Advocate.
What about the scene where Kim is being picked up by her mom from a store backroom after she'd shoplifted? Goes to show by far Jimmy wasn't the first one who instilled evil into Kim. The way the scene with Kim's mother goes after they leave the store implies it was actually a con her mom and her were running in my opinion.
The most important character in this show is the bottle cap(the same one that was on the bottle that killed 90% of the drug cartel in Breaking Bad). It perfectly represents a morally neutral character slipping in an out of crime at moments notice and the cap becomes more and more prominent as the seasons go along until the midseason finally in 6(and we all know why).
Your BCS analyses have been quite good, the algorithm better pick your channel up because the numbers this channel has should be higher for the quality put out.
The numbers and support have been insane recently lol, you guys have truly been incredible over this past month! Thank you though really glad you’ve enjoyed them
Kim and Jimmy's story is the most romantic story I ever witnessed, even if they're not good people, they love each other and would literally kill for each other
She's not evil. It just got outta hand. It's really on Jimmy. He showed her the ropes of being the wolf and the benefits that comes with it. I could see my ex doing the same with me, we would've had a lot of fun but it wouldn't have gone that far. Hell, even if the roles were switched, we still would've done it. There's nothing more satisfying, more fun and more empowering than succeeding with that one special person. Great video man! I've watched a few of yours. They were all great!
@@emmyturner7385 not true at all lol kim definitely gets a bit evil up until howard’s death.She literally brings up the idea to sabotage howard even though he’s not even that bad of a dude she just gets off on it jimmy isn’t perfect either but everyone knows this already
@@emmyturner7385 Ok lol all ur comments on the channel are just talking about being misogynistic and hating on females.meanwhile the show paints the picture clearly kim gets pretty corrupt but ok
I puzzled over her character and actions throughout the show, looking for a heart of gold, seeing a glimmer here or there. Never made it to this final conclusion, but you are right. A truly perverse character.
Brilliant analysis, thanks. There’s to add, that this superb storyline and characterisation reflects the corruption to the core of the system. It’s nearly impossible to uphold high morality in it.
As a child, Kim was rewarded for bad behavior but rewarded for enablling it. Good behavior was frowned upon by her mother and she was left in the cold. Makes sense that she enables Jimmy and went one step too far with Howard. At least she admitted it. She never knew what she wanted because her sense of right and wrong was fragile. Stopped liking her after Season 5. That was the point, though. These characters became unlikable, tragic and had to redeem themselves. It was left to the very end.
Dude. This is the second I've watched from you. I'll watch other videos of yours, I watch a buttload of different shows, so I'd be happy to watch others. I dig your insight.
i would unironically love one more spin off from breaking bad: the story of huel. where it turns out that he was secretly the deepest, most bad ass character in the entire show who masterminded EVERYTHING and controlled everyone like chess pieces the whole time. we finally find out what happened after we saw him locked in that witness protection house: he killed the feds, bailed to mexico and took over the entire cartel and drug trade because his plan worked and everyone else is dead.
This guy is off on much of his assessment..for instance the real reason Kim doesn’t stop is much deeper and vain. She feels that much off her relationship with Jimmy is hinged on the fact that she doesn’t like Jimmy is the mastermind. You can see it fully manifested when Jimmy tricks her even though it helps the situation/s. She tries to play guilt trips on Jimmy when he succeeds at his schemes as a means to humble him. Since she can’t upstage Jimmy’s exciting life, she takes every opportunity to try and demoralize him. She loves insecure, needy, scared and remorseful Jimmy hidden inside of him, buts is attracted to the grandiose scheming Jimmy. The feeling of anger that she feels at Jimmy’s destructive genius turns her own and gives her new life. Ultimately she blames Jimmy for all the problems they’ve fell into, and it’s true, because if she was never enticed with the indirect proposals of being a role player, she would have remained in her safe bubble, and continued living and much less exciting yet successful life. Howard’s death was a obeying moment for her, showing what immature games can lead to, and although she was more blame for that debacle, she internally blames Jimmy.
I greatly disliked that Kim suddenly grew consciousness and berated Jimmy even though she was the one that pushed him to destroy Howard. Jimmy tried to pull out multiple times but she just couldn't let it go because she enjoyed it so much. This is why the hypocrisy of her saying Jimmy needs to take responsibly angered me greatly. In the end Kim escaped without being punished for this scam and Jimmy takes all the blame on himself to protect her because he loves her. So Jimmy grows as a character by taking responsibility but Kim doesn't making it even more tragic.
I loathed Howard's memorial scene when Kim told Cheryl she caught Howard doing cocaine. I even screamed and startled my husband. I couldn't believe she would intentionally hurt Howard's grieving widow just to back up Jimmy's lies. I agree with you. Kim being relegated to living a drab existence in Florida isn't penance for her actions!
I think you're picking and choosing here when it comes to pointing fingers of immorality. First off, they both "escaped" from that "scam". Jimmy ends up in Nebraska because of his "evil" (if we're gonna use that word) connections and collusion with the murderess drug cartels, both during Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad. The fact that Howard got killed had to do exclusively with Jimmy, not Kim, and was incidental to their chicanery with Howard. Anyone who would have visited them that night would have been killed. Jimmy's need for confession at court was not only to protect Kim from ancillary crimes she was not involved in, but was inspired by Kim's own confession. Hypocrisy? Not so much. Did Kim become more and more addicted to Jimmy's duplicity and cons? Yes, and even went further than Jimmy in the BCS universe (but not the BB universe, Jimmy as Saul did that). If she had become sanctimonious *after* what they did to poor Howard then you might have a case. I believe her many concerns with Jimmy's behavior in the first 4 seasons were genuine. Others might make the argument that Jimmy led Kim down this onerous path, and the ruin of Howard was all from the no good Jimmy. Which is of course equally baloney. The writers did an amazing job of creating complex characters that were capable of both wanting to help others but also hurt others. As an aging male dude, I can't help but see the misogynistic trope of blaming the "evil woman" for all the misdeeds of the male counterpart in some of these comments surrounding this particular video. I'm hearing Santana's Evil Woman in my head right now.
Kim reminds me of Walt in the sense that she was always this person. It’s just getting the chance to be enabled to do it, and feeling the freedom to continue.
The "hidden evil" thing is the same conversation as the "jimmy vs saul" or "walter vs heisemberg" We all have evil inside us, its a matter of whether we choose to act on it or not. As long as people keep saying "X was always evil he just didnt show it" and such, we will never learn that anyone can fall into evil if they get careless enough
I found her incredibly irritating. I had to fast forward through her every appearance. She is false to the core. If there were a person like this in real life she would have no friends.
Man just came across your channel yesterday, really like your vids. Keep it up you putting in a lot of work and it will pay off🙏🙏. Also have you ever seen the sopranos? If so i wonder if you’ll ever do any content around that. Anyways keep it up mate🫶🙏
I really didn't like Kim. Her constant moodswings are annoying. She is a hypocrite. Tantalizing Jimmy one day about how immoral he is, giving him the silent treatment and then the next day suggesting "let's do this thing that is 10 times worse" And at the end she betrays him, for no real reason.
I never watched the final season (which I now see was a mistake) but Kim and Jimmy DID NOT kill Howard, Lalo did. Idk how the season and court trial went fully, but no deep dive video I've watched so far has even remotely proven that Jimmy and/or Kim killed Howard in any way, even though every one of the aforementioned deep dive videos says they did. If I'm missing something, OK, but they are not guilty of murder whatsoever otherwise--especially not in the legal sense. If the show charged either one of them with murder, that would be the only piss poor writing in the whole series.
Jimmy was not selling those phones illegally. He purchased them from his employer and then re-sold them; he even had the permits to do it. It's the type of customer he was catering to that eventually got him into trouble.
Kim is toxic. She loves doing small cons with jimmy and experiences a manic rush afterwards but then gets upset and condemns jimmy when he does small cons for himself. Her love and affection for jimmy is obviously transactional. She impulsively wrote a 15,000 dollar check to Howard for her school fees just to prove a point and show dominance. (This is money that she did not have to pay since Howard said that it was a gift from the firm). She is constantly trying to prove meaningless points in an attempt to show dominance and prove to others and herself that she’s good enough.
