Better than a K Swap? (More than a Si killer!)

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8th Gen Civic Swap Options: L15B, K20C or J35
By Brian Gillespie and Aaron Gaghagen
Our R18 to K series swapped 8th gen Civic was a blast, but we were wondering if there were other options that would give us more. Looking more horsepower and torque stock lead us to a couple of newer turbo Honda engines and one "big block" V6. The K20C, L15B and J35 all are available with manual transmission and that is what we're looking for.
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@rr3873 Год назад

Jseries is the most interesting one

@VTECAcademy Год назад

Possibly the simplest too.

@_k_rolls_turbo_ Год назад

J swap all the way

@nickwagner2284 Год назад

What does it weigh vs the K20c?

@singlestickhero Год назад

J swap for sure

@JDXFAB Год назад

@@nickwagner2284 the j is ruff 300 pounds no trans

@joemcmeans7413 Год назад

I vote for the j series. Definitely different in a way. I'm excited to see mounts for all of them in time.

@JonHop1 Год назад

J series all the way... Not a fan of the newer direct-injection turbo motors at all.. They are a snoozefest and lame.

@kadoku Год назад

@Daniel McTavish J-sus 6-6 motor for thy honda lord.

@Triggernlfrl Год назад

@Daniel McTavish Dont preach others in someone else his name. That is a real sin....

@ormondjosh Год назад

J series would be really cool. The L15 and K20c are both a bit "exotic" right now. Not really easy to come by for cheap. J series are everywhere. That's a much more attainable power plant, in my mind. Would also love to see a track-built 4th gen Odyssey. Track minivans are the untapped content well of RU-vid :)

@chrisevaggelou8473 Год назад

I really like the idea of the L15

@goosenotmaverick1156 Год назад

I bought a first gen fit L15 last year for 450 plus tax from a reputable salvage yard locally... They exist but the cars themselves don't seem to die.

@goosenotmaverick1156 Год назад

Also I agree, j series are fascinating. When I found out my j35a8 had fractured rod caps, piston squirters, and cross bolt main caps, I was surprised and impressed. Well built that thing is

@jaredtopilko1313 Год назад

I'd love a manual transmission in my 06 odyssey

@googlyeye3838 Год назад

It's cheap if you get it through auction. You just need a lot of patience to find the right one .

@lbjgh Год назад

J series all the way. 260ish HP and really smooth. That would be a cool build

@VTECAcademy Год назад

It really is smooth too.

@wilurbean Год назад

276hp * And they put 255-260 at the wheel So yeah, underrated

@davidvaughn7778 Год назад

@markzieg2425 If remember correctly, japanese manufacturers have a "Gentleman's Agreement" and will only rate their engines at a set HP. It's been a long while since I've kept up with any Japanese stuff so I don't remember what that number is.

@josh31689ify Год назад

I don’t thing the gentlemen’s agreement is a thing anymore the newer gtr, nsx and other high horse cars are all way over 276hp

@wilurbean Год назад

@@davidvaughn7778 it could be, the J35Z3 was in dev since the early 2000s, and in many ways its just a tuned and bored J30 which dates back to the mid 90s. It's the closest Honda ever came to making a big block motor. Single Cam 3.5L V6 revving to 7000rpm is borderline scary. A lot of spinning mass All I'm sayin l saying is the J37z which is 0.2L bigger and went in Acuras had 40+ hp for 0.2L and the accord 6-6s had transmissions that are 97% effecient... Or the spec sheet is underrated. Those 3500lbs accord coupes were hitting 60 in 5.6s in 2008. That was fast, not just quick

@WelshyAutomotive Год назад

Please do the j35! Would be super cool to see it come together.

@davidrosario8992 Год назад

I’m gonna vote for the J series, the lack of J swaps for EP3/EM2/RSX/FA5 etc, is very surprising, I’d wager the community would very much support a “group buy” of mounts to enable these swaps, k20c and l15b are cool, but not readily accessible as the J’s are

@pottsvision2607 Год назад

J in an ep3, I'd love to see it. Small turbo on a k20 could come close to the torque feel and be muuuch simpler to get running (and potentially make significantly more power), but the j would be an excellent motor in the ep3.

@randyvlo5627 Год назад

I put a j32a with 6 sp manual in a es3 civic 2005 that came with d17a and cvt transmission

@jesusurbina7343 Год назад

@@randyvlo5627 wth how??? You got pictures on social media or sum? How hard was it? I got a 2002 civic coupe I was thinking bout doing a k swap on with a ep3 sub frame but that sounds more interesting

@averyalexander2303 Год назад

@@randyvlo5627 We never got the Civic ES3 here in America, but I'm sure the ES1/ES2 we got would be very similar if not identical.

@Bruceillest101 4 месяца назад

V6 all the way!

@konjiki240sx Год назад

J series is so underrated. That would be the direction I would go.

@gusplymale1797 Год назад

The J swap is definitely the way in this case. I can't wait to see how well it performs in the 8th gen.

@ism0k3fir3 Год назад

J series would be awesome to see in an 8th gen. I never thought a v6 would fit in those tiny cars

@aeroboozt9455 Год назад

It’s been done several times

@chicoh22a Год назад

People be swapping it into eg’s

@bobg3633 Год назад

Ive seen j swaps in crxs

@huntrusso Год назад

K20C all day. Personally owned the L series motor in my SI and had nothing but issues with it. It’s a shame Honda even released it to replace the previous K series in most civics.

@darkknight097 Год назад

Feel the exact same way. You spend a lot of coin to make a reliable 350whp with the L15 when the k20c4 is within shooting distance of that with flex fuel and tune. Not to mention the way better low-end torque.

@huntrusso Год назад

@@darkknight097 yup exactly. I sold my si for an accord with the c4. It’s such a good motor with crazy amounts of torque. Plus I don’t have to worry about reliability with it like the L series. I don’t think the L is ever going to catch on for being a go to swap.

@bryce_fa5si Год назад

@@huntrusso what year accord exactly are we talking about I own an 07 civic SIFA5 I want to get another one but maybe I’ll get an accord instead

@huntrusso Год назад

@@bryce_fa5si I have a 2019 with the 2.0t

@gaspererjavec7108 Год назад

Im planning to swap a j35/j37 in to a early Porsche 924. They are so underrated, basically JDM muscle.

@VTECAcademy Год назад

That will be a killer setup.

@mixxedboyybuilds8273 Год назад

@@VTECAcademy yes it will

@mixxedboyybuilds8273 Год назад

I plan on getting a second first gen rx7 as a roller to slap a j series into (rods, closed deck, turbo combination), & turn it into a rally esc street car, I think I'm going to go with the red adapter for the 350z trans & a Ford 9" set-up built for a fox body, with fox body/sn95 coilovers/spindles/hubs up front with custom tubular long travel A arm & foxbody coilovers in the rear with custom tubular 4 link bars in the rear that have heim joint ends for better articulation & adjustability.

@arman757 Год назад

Nah bruh, jdm muscle is a vk56

@gaspererjavec7108 Год назад

@@arman757 If you mean as muscle having bad power vs displacement ratio like us engines then you are absolutely correct.

@KingTurkeySub Год назад

J series for sure, but definitely cool to see the options as I have one of these and not many people do engine swaps on them

@BeastFromTheEast79 Год назад

Now that he has posted this video they will lol. Funny thing about the web is someone can throw up a video about something. and the fan boys come lurkin and the prices sky rocket. Makes it hard on us who dont have Daddys wallet or sell Drugs lmao

@matthewfuller1129 Год назад

The J would sound the best without question, but I'd take a K20C4 in my 9th-gen Si (which I think is very similar to the 8th-gen).

@Gemi4900 Год назад

9th gen is k24 I thought lol

@matthewla16 Год назад

@@Gemi4900 it is a k24

@TheOjeda13 Год назад

J for sure! The carb legal aspect seems cool. L15 seems like it will have its time to shine

@crisprojects6336 Год назад

Might as well get ahead of the curve with the new L15 swap

@IcemanJD08 Год назад

I vote for the j series. Would love to see that swapped into this chassis, I've never saw one swapped into this chassis. I like swaps that people don't normally do and would love to see you guys do a video series on it.

@dericksilva5311 Год назад

J series first for sure. So many of them engines available and I’d love to see the numbers it puts out when it’s done

@geoffreyadams6236 Год назад

For a street car I say J series. Track car K20c. Thanks for all your videos!

@VTECAcademy Год назад

And possibly the L15B for certain race classes where lower displacement would carry less of a penalty? Hmm...

@robfrmny21 Год назад

Appreciate all your hard work over the yrs with Hondas

@paulo..ferreira Год назад

You are going to save us 8th gen Si people here in Brazil! We dont have performance K available anymore. J35 is super cool, but as you say, I think L15 is the future. Thanks for your videos and everything! :)

@toyomatt84 Год назад

I like the L15 idea, since its the next generation swap (in my opinion).

@VTECAcademy Год назад

For sure the future. They put that in so many cars like the K.

@darkknight097 Год назад

I think that job is going to go to the k20c4. The L15s are laughably weak when making anything more than 300whp/300wtq. And the cost to make more than 350whp shoots up exponentially as you run into fueling limits

@franciscoortiz1652 Год назад

Head gaskets L15b

@tayvonrose2528 Год назад

@@darkknight097 finally someone talking real shit

@castacus Год назад

i had one in a 10th gen SI and i absolute loved it, i think this would be a great swap for many Honda's. With the peak torque coming in so low it feels like a mini V8. I know it doesn't have V tech and its a lower rpm motor but they are going to be cheep, plentifully and they love mods with a huge aftermarket support.

@easycheddy Год назад

I’d like to see a j swap plus they sound so nice singing vtec

@jacobfarkas3916 Год назад

J. I love the subtle sound of them. It's a surprise massive hit of torque.

@heinrichvijsma1851 Год назад

Greetings from Aruba, just bought a Ex coupe friday last….. Love your page, really awesome ideas for engine swaps. 🤘🏼😁have a great new week head

@joshjohns_PC Год назад

j series would be fun i know personally im still waiting till 9th gen mounts start becoming more common place but been debating getting an 8th gen as a fun project soon.

@colinbowers8813 Год назад

I said J series last time, I'll say it again. As the owner of a manual transmission 2008 EX sedan, I would love to shoehorn a v6 under the hood. I'd also like to see an AWD converted 8th gen 👍🤙

@hoobered1232 11 месяцев назад

my 2008 ex manual trans. coupe has a blown 1.8. This J looks nice to me but would my manual trany match ? I doubt it

@colinbowers8813 11 месяцев назад

@@hoobered1232 I would almost guarantee that it wouldn't fit. 🚫

@hoobered1232 11 месяцев назад

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@hoobered1232 11 месяцев назад

yup I realize that thanks

@TheycallmeRpCratchet Год назад

Soo cool to see a J series in that chasis. Love to see it running in there!!

@prun8893 Год назад

I always wondered what happened to Johnny Fever when his time at WKRP ended. I'm glad to see the good Dr. found another passion.

@rklracer Год назад

Would love to swap the l15b in my 8th gen

@jesusberlanga4346 Год назад

Jay all day.....no replacement for displacement.....would be cool to see the harder route taken

@gordythecreator Год назад

the Abundance of j-series engines + swap-simplicity is "the icing on the cake". GiMME MY CAKE!

@JoshuaRosaaen Год назад

earned my sib...thank you...cant wait to see more about the 50 state legal swap...although the 3.5 looks fun

@youngb1ood Год назад

J series swap, simply because it's harder to do and find done well.

@VTECAcademy Год назад

It would be fun!

@K20X Год назад

L15B - less weight, more potential in future, easy to increase power with turbo.

@Angrynood Год назад

Love that the J-swaps are getting some more love!

@allenanthony4033 Год назад

I’am a Honda guy 👍🏾 I’am hooked waiting and watching 😎

@sjhudon386 Год назад

I want to see them all!

@VTECAcademy Год назад

Us too!

@josesosa2824 Год назад

J series! love the 3.5 v6!

@VTECAcademy Год назад

We gotta do it.

@OrganicGreens 8 месяцев назад

I had an 02 accord coupe with the J. loved that car. That engine is really smooth and actually has torque down low unlike the others.

@funkbro2 Год назад

The fact these fit is incredible

@robracesandrebuilds6499 Год назад

While the J's are cheap and plentiful.. the 6MT for a J is not easy to come by. For that reason, I'd vote for the L15b7. They can make great numbers with tuning, although they are kind of a boring engine.

@NpaujKhaabChannel Год назад

Better off k series then right

@charlesbilodeau6916 Год назад

I'm a sucker for J ❤️

@robinlopez1909 Год назад

Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

@ancientsociety653 Год назад

LET THAT MAN BUILD THE J! its been a long time coming for this platform to get some love. People have been bashing J swaps (especially in RWD) for so long!

@NinosGarage Год назад

I vote J series! That would be super awesome in this chassis!

@ammonhansen6459 Год назад

J35 will be the most widely available to swap in it. I say j35

@VTECAcademy Год назад

J35s are the cheapest engine compared to the newer ones. It's the transmissions that sometimes take a bit to find decently priced.

@kevinrichardson6680 8 месяцев назад

Ill be anxiously waiting for the new J series content!

@pjstocker7692 10 месяцев назад

I really could use a video breaking down a k24a2 swap into 9th gen si keep up the quality work, guys

@VTECAcademy 10 месяцев назад

Don’t we have that? ru-vid.com/group/PL9Qq92QbHKkjP9m4L0dpSoGMjadLldUeB

@vthoj Год назад

J series would be neat

@joldsaway3489 Год назад

As someone who’s been spending over a year trying to get a j-series swap in my Miata, I have to give everyone a fair and advanced warning that it’t not an easy swap at all. I’ve needed a remanufactured intake manifold, an engine rebuild, a new flywheel, and dozens of other parts. I hope to get my car this weekend, but I don’t have my fingers crossed. Not saying not to do it, but there’s no such thing as an “easy swap”. Good luck to all builders out there

@greasebeardsgarage Год назад

You're up against a lot more issues than this swap would be. No matter which generation Miata you have, you're going FWD engine to RWD car. V6 engine to I4 chassis. Even different manufacturers which might have different electrical connections and mean that all your sensor wires need new connectors...if you're even trying to use any of the factory harness at all. It would be nice to have a little more pep in the Miata though!

@joldsaway3489 Год назад

@@greasebeardsgarage You have no idea how many issues I've had, lol. I'd bought a kit from Minitec thinking that it would be a fairly simple swap, but it's been anything but. Hopefully it will be done soon, however.

@louisbabycos106 Год назад

@@greasebeardsgarage I saw a sweet GM 3800 power train swap from a Camaro into a Miata . Absolute torque beast . Low RPM Torque and HP . Exhaust note was exquisite.and throaty growl without being being overly loud .

@thronewalker1153 Год назад

@@joldsaway3489 nice build. I’m doing a swap with a j series into a Honda del sol.

@mogulme6190 Год назад

Sounds like you also bought a bad engine…. That’s a difficulty factor you caused

@lllDolph Год назад

As an owner of a j35 accord coupe with a manual I can say that you will not regret the decision on this drivetrain. Solid power all throughout the rpm range. My only qualm with my car is you can definitely feel the weight of the J series on the corners but it’s a strait line beast.

@hxllowgrave Год назад

I'm torn between the L and J. I've been wanting to see an L series in a em2 for a while now, but J series is just so rad of an engine.

@brandonbatista1165 Год назад

J would have some gnarly induction noise too

@StayBlaziin Год назад

The k20t is what I want in my em2 😁

@simonlagann8178 Год назад

j all the way - rpm systems

@tjabdon606 Год назад

Awesome info Thanks 🙏

@10sandovalallan Год назад

Given me ideas for my 7th gen accord

@nzzl1 Год назад

The J would be a marvelous pick! I can see why you’ve been wanting to do it, I didn’t think It could work or fit that well but man definitely will hold on to my 8th gen for this one day

@wtjonathan871 Год назад

I speak for us all when I say J series is what we wanna see. Me having an 8th gen sedan, and wanting to see this done would be a huge inspiration and a good foot path to follow.

@matthewla16 Год назад

Speak for yourself buddy lol (also an fa5 owner)

@TristanVash38 11 месяцев назад

1:25 Nice RV6 manifold!! Nice!!

@elliottewilliams1316 Месяц назад

I have an ongoing build on a 2008 Honda Accord what channel has been very helpful in knowing which directions I want to take with my build

@inaNis_ Год назад

L15 is common in the junkyard and I think its the average garage enthusiast's choice. makes reasonable power and lots of torque while also being pretty economical. not that many downsides to it when you want to keep the power levels relatively low

@rogermoore9225 Год назад

In the middle on doing one now.. into a ek civic..

@elmerarana3944 Год назад

I want to see what l15 will run like and how hard will it be to convert

@levr1088 Год назад

Oh my god please just do all of them that would be amazing

@mouachang874 Год назад

Love it..keep it coming. This is like drugs for motorheads🤣🤣

@VTECAcademy Год назад

Ahahaha! Get your fix, mannnnn.

@snowfreak207 Год назад

Does the transmissions from L and k swap out?

@RobZombahr Год назад

I would love to see a J series in an 8th gen

@lantice013 Год назад

The V6 one. Always had a sweet spot for Honda V6 engines. Had An Acura Legend. Those things sounds exotic.

@bgee461 Год назад

They all sound exciting.

@youngb1ood Год назад

The l15 has oil dilution problems, and head gasket failure in certain cars. Do the j series.

@VTECAcademy Год назад

Definitely leaning toward J...

@dimitrywatt6571 Год назад

I vote for the k20c that always intrigues me. I think it would fit but it would turn the car into an absolute unit.

@ericguimaraes8092 9 месяцев назад

J series. That opens new possibilities. I agree that it's smart to make mounts for all the options as they are the future. J series excites me the most though.

@mikeemail1101 Год назад

This is gold.

@thetruth7633 Год назад

For 8th gen I would vote J series, some out of the ordinary. For own project: For weight benefits and usable power I would vote L15, to me perfect in EC ED EE EF. For the sake of easy to find and bang for bucks J in 8th gen like I said. K20C is very very expensive, tried to source a front clip, forget it! Might as well just buy a K20C Type R.

@carsinruin6102 Год назад

I want to see the j swap however the k20c and l15b are the future.

@VTECAcademy Год назад

Yes, to all of this!

@Kazaken667 Год назад

I love anyone showing the j series some love

@stretchwakefield4832 3 месяца назад

Dope Chanel watching from new Zealand 🇳🇿

@VTECAcademy 3 месяца назад

Thanks!

@michaellatham9737 Год назад

Def wanna see the j swap

@VTECAcademy Год назад

Seems to be the choice here!

@leereyes9381 Год назад

J35!

@VTECAcademy Год назад

J35 would rip.

@upstatesinglespeed7177 Год назад

K20C. Pave the way for the future!

@nstorm390 Год назад

I will admit the J series would be a really cool wild swap but I'm really digging the L15. How nice would it be to have a later gen motor in an 8th gen body? Def a head turner.

@darkknight097 Год назад

Not worth the headache or cost that is trying to extract more than 400whp. Speaking from experience

@averyalexander2303 Год назад

My vote is for the J swap, I really like the simplicity and reliability of those engines compared to the newer ones and I think it will probably be the quickest and most fun to drive since it has so much torque available instantly with no turbo lag. No replacement for displacement. And obviously a J series will be way easier to find and cheaper.

@yulmerced4434 Год назад

I've been keeping an eye on the L15 for my mini

@Rlinsenbach Год назад

Totally do the s-swap and mounts. Definitely would be interested in j swapping a 8th gen sedan.

@nicolassarmiento2479 Год назад

Where do you sell the mounts? I was following the l15 Dc2 build and would love to see how it mounts and gets wired?

@VTECAcademy Год назад

hasportperformance.com/ The DC2 project got put on hold, but we have another L15B swap in the shop which will serve as R&D for the Integra.

@nealfrazier7742 Год назад

J series

@chicoh22a Год назад

I love my J on my 13 accord coupe,it feels really good and power comes very smoot,just imagine on a lighter chasis🙌🏼🙌🏼🔥🔥🔥

@xjdmEJ2x 6 месяцев назад

J series is definitely something I’d like to see more of ‼️

@jimfeng2542 Год назад

J series!

@VTECAcademy Год назад

Hell yeah!

@alanclark9000 Год назад

@VTEC Academy j35 gonna feel a lot nicer to drive slowly because of TQ but I feel like this video is trying to say the engines are near each other. The j series is awesome but it has downsides. 1 VETC cam and hardly any mod support. I like H because they rip them tires

@nobodynoone2500 Год назад

Is there a Manual AWD trans available for the J? Do you have to J2K, and would the k trans hold up?

@creativeconscious Год назад

2013 TL SH-AWD 6spd manual

@Korokukanas Год назад

I love this Channel!!

@VTECAcademy Год назад

Appreciate it!! 🤙🏽🤙🏽

@matthewla16 Год назад

I’d love to see the k20c1 in the civic. Built engine and a turbo from the factory. Wouldn’t have to do much to it but put it in the car and enjoy it. Also the exhaust note of the c1 is exquisite

@blongx9957 Год назад

jseries

@eulogy1981 Год назад

I suggest you do the l15 swap because every everybody's already done J series NK series countless of times and I would like to see what the L series can put out they've done correctly

@VTECAcademy Год назад

But, is the world ready for the L movement?

@eulogy1981 Год назад

@@VTECAcademy embrace it is what I say every VTEC has it's place

@alanclark9000 Год назад

@VTEC Academy yea I'm not sure what this guy is speaking on. When it comes to, don't know what a l15 can put out. The new si comes with a l15 and there's plenty enuff videos on 400hp L15

@samcarter5799 3 месяца назад

I have an AWD Saturn with the 3.5 in it, and it's got an impressive power band going for it. Plenty of power to tow trailers and even vehicles over the pass in my case.