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Beware of Ford’s 1.5L 1.6L 2.0L Ecoboost Engines and Their Never Ending Coolant Consumption Issues! 

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@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 2 года назад
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@durangotang1681
@durangotang1681 2 года назад
Add my 2017 2.7 Ford Fusion sport to that. It’s toast at 127k miles. Ford wants me to pay 3k for the tear down just so they can tell me what percentage of the 10k for the new engine they’ll “assist” with. And I still owe 10k on it. Haven’t driven it in a year and still got another year of paying on that damn thing.
2 года назад
Can you make a video on how or why Ford Explorers with V6 3.6 engine has a "LOW ENGINE OIL PRESSURE" when the engine is full with synthetic oil. My Explorer is a 2014 with 145, 000 miles. Already with a water pump failure at 110, 000 miles. I MADE FORD pay the $5500 bill. A factory design failure.
@durangotang1681
@durangotang1681 2 года назад
If you wanna tear my engine down for content and to prove to ford it’s their fault I’m ok with that. The misfire started at 65k and nobody could figure it out till it would hardly drive. I took it out of state cuz I was tired of throwing money at it and nobody being able to find the problem. The last people found the coolant intrusion. Safe bet to say it’s ALL ecoboosts.
@jimamizzi1
@jimamizzi1 2 года назад
I would put in a used long block and sell it.
@JoeJalopy
@JoeJalopy 2 года назад
Where does the block crack?
@brianbarclay4316
@brianbarclay4316 2 года назад
I’ve always been a Ford guy but it really pisses me off that Ford is getting away with this. They should cover this, it’s not like it is operator error, it’s a design flaw!
@randyrohe
@randyrohe 2 года назад
I'm a lifelong Ford guy myself; unfortunately, I purchased a 2012 Focus with the dual clutch transmission, and now I'm an avid NOT FORD guy. Which makes me sad, but my loyalty isn't worth that amount of cash.
@aninnymoose720
@aninnymoose720 2 года назад
It's the plants doing manufacturing. Look up Kobe Steel scandal from a few years ago. They were selling steel with fudged data specs as higher grade than what was testing as. Ford among other manufacturers admitted to purchasing steel from them during this generation of vehicles time line. Of 100 companies only a handful came forward with info on what the steel went towards making. Certain Toyota/subi vehicles had valve spring recall due to it. Ford had seat brackets possibly from the same stuff. Check it out
@rcole3838
@rcole3838 2 года назад
Actually, I stay away from ALL Fords.
@SirDeanosity
@SirDeanosity 2 года назад
Fill Or Repair Daily
@jpoppinga8417
@jpoppinga8417 2 года назад
I bled blue. Until the 5.4 came out. Now (most) of the bugs got worked out of that engine and Ford came out with something worse ...
@ScottsGarage17
@ScottsGarage17 2 года назад
I only had 33 k miles on my 2017 Ford Escape 1.5l Ecoboost when the coolant intrusion started. I was 2 weeks beyond the 5 year powertrain warranty. It cost me $6300 out of pocket. How is this not a safety issue? Ford needs to do the right thing and recall these engines. This is a design flaw. Consumers should not be on the hook.
@ScottsGarage17
@ScottsGarage17 2 года назад
@@tellucas Do you have experience with doing this? Who do I contact? Thanks!
@exil3dlivecom
@exil3dlivecom 2 года назад
I called corporate. They pretty much blew me off. FIGHT BACK WITH YOUR WALLET! NEVER BUY A FORD AND LET EVERYONE KNOW SO THEY ARE SCARRD STRAIGHT AND AVOID FORD AT ALL COST! I turned away 3 people from a ford purchase so far. FU ford!
@exil3dlivecom
@exil3dlivecom 2 года назад
@@tellucas lol. I'm far beyond pisst. Loved my edge. It was my second one. And as soon as I made my last payment, it started drinking coolant. ZERO help from Ford.
@geoffgoemans6352
@geoffgoemans6352 2 года назад
2018 escape 1.5L , same problems . Outside of warranty . The dealership is putting a new engine in for free, so Ford is finally doing something about it . A little late though .
@exil3dlivecom
@exil3dlivecom 2 года назад
@@geoffgoemans6352 how many miles? Ford corporate told me to pound sand. Mines is a 2015 edge with 155k.
@abelincoln8446
@abelincoln8446 2 года назад
Brian, the content and service you're providing to owners and consumers here is tremendous. It's sad that honesty and transparency are rare in this industry, but you're upholding high standards. Thanks for what you do.
@brianfreve6799
@brianfreve6799 2 года назад
Honest abe speaks the truth
@peterpeter5666
@peterpeter5666 2 года назад
so true. ! been a tech for 36 years. the thing auto manufacs get away with is ridicules! the peddle garbage! my advice to anyone is STAY AWAY FROM ANY TURBO ENGINES!!!!
@keithbergstresser5896
@keithbergstresser5896 2 года назад
I think what may be causing the problem is being run low on coolant and it going in into deactivation mode being Aluminum block they have a tendency to shift which would cause fatigue in cylinders Especially With a Siamese bore engine Adjust my 2 cents.
@graken22
@graken22 2 года назад
@@peterpeter5666 Turbo engines are not the problem the owner doesn't know how to properly drive them or maintain them. I have been a Tech 30yrs. Seen it and repaired it
@michaelRay2576
@michaelRay2576 2 года назад
FIX OR REPAIR DAILY = FORD
@joevignolor4u949
@joevignolor4u949 2 года назад
My wife was considering buying one of these that had 45,000 miles on it for $21,000. After watching your video I just called her up and told her to forget it. Thanks!
@guysumpthin2974
@guysumpthin2974 7 месяцев назад
Jim hackett set ford up for a disaster, in so many ways
@scottpearce7466
@scottpearce7466 4 месяца назад
Roll of the dice...I have 178k on my 2015 2.0L Ecoboost & not the first problem. My neighbor bought 2017 & didn't make it 60k until it blew up...why, why, why!
@thomasjames734
@thomasjames734 2 месяца назад
Ford will replace the motor free of charge 7 years 84,000 miles
@ermamilspaugh
@ermamilspaugh 11 дней назад
Dont
@ermamilspaugh
@ermamilspaugh 11 дней назад
Had mine fixed 2 years ago, now need new engine at $10,000
@9Packin
@9Packin Год назад
This is part of the reason when I was looking for a first car for my daughter a few years ago I steered clear of the Ecoboost cars.. Got her a Fusion with the 3.0 L Duratec V6. Runs like a champ and gets good power.
@cjging2436
@cjging2436 2 года назад
This makes me grateful for the plain and simple 2.5 liter in my 2014 Fusion. It's nothing amazing, but nothing bad. Iit just works. I've put over 100K trouble free miles on my engine, changing oil every 5-6K miles.
@servicioelectromecanicocue7025
@servicioelectromecanicocue7025 2 года назад
The 2.5 it's a very good engine, simple, no turbos only a long block 16 valve 4 cyl 4 spark plugs.
@kevinW826
@kevinW826 2 года назад
@@servicioelectromecanicocue7025 thanks to Mazda for designing and building it. I have a 2011 Mazda CX-7 with that 2.5 and 155,000 kms so far.
@NWCI
@NWCI 2 года назад
It's gonna bite you when the electric steering rack fails. my friend's 2012 fusion 2.5 just did that and dealer quoted him $3000 for replacement.
@cjging2436
@cjging2436 2 года назад
@@NWCI Yeah, my electric power steering failed already several years ago. The local Ford dealer was willing to install a used rack, and I was out the door for $800. So far it has been the only thing that failed on the car.
@kevinW826
@kevinW826 2 года назад
@@NWCI the previous owner already replaced the hydraulic steering rack in the cx7 in 2020. It was verified that it’s full mechanical no electric.
@overtorque
@overtorque 2 года назад
I'm with you on all that, Brian. I was a Ford tech for 19+ years and I was giving the ecoboost a chance. I traded my 2007 Fusion V6 AWD for a 2015 Fusion 2.0 AWD. I loved the 2015 Fusion it was great, my wife got a 2014 Escape 1.6 back in 2017. Around 2020, I performed the pressure test and immediately traded it in for a 2018 Escape 2.0 Titanium. That being said, a month later, her old Escape was sold and came back with the engine blown. Coolant intrusion in cylinders 2, 3 and 4. And 3 months ago, my Fusion had coolant intrusion in cylinders 3 and 4. Now, I have a 2020 F150 with 7800 miles with a 3rd Gen Coyote 5.0 and I'm praying her Escape will be ok. It might not be affected but who the hell knows. I also have a 2006 Mustang GT with the 3 Valve 4.6 and that's a hell of a motor...short lived but great results. Ford should be ashamed of themselves. My wife works for a competing dealership, you can imagine our conversations at the dinner table LOL, and she said even Hyundai, Kia and Subaru have extended warranties on their engines. Not Ford. Only on the stupid Fiesta and Focus transmissions with the dual clutch there's an extended warranty and TSB.
@bigsparky8888
@bigsparky8888 2 года назад
Your point is well taken...this whole Global trading thing has me really corn fused...out sourcing has fired up so many glitches in quality...WE ARE IN AGREEMENT BROTHER!!!
@rosalielane4533
@rosalielane4533 2 года назад
They have so many TSB. I adjudicate mechanical claims. TSB for over 4 year coolant instruction, cam phasers, and dual clutch transmission. My least favorite is cam phaser Cust sat campaign prorated on mileage only if you have reflash done by 12/31/22. Multiple of them for major components like engine and transmission. They should recall these. I purchased my last Ford they take little to no responsibility
@legros731
@legros731 2 года назад
A ford escape with a 1.6L engine there your problem Who the clown at ford that decided that a 1.6 is ok in a SUV
@legros731
@legros731 2 года назад
@@rosalielane4533 almost all engine with cam phaser will have a failure these thing just don't last and this problem is not new old 3valve v8 5.4L and many manufacturers got this problem as well not just a ford thing Even Honda cam phaser fail
@overtorque
@overtorque 2 года назад
I agree with you all. I still love Ford as a whole but how can you constantly assemble vehicles with the same problem over and over again? It's pretty sad when I would speak with one of the engineers at Ford about the repair I'm performing and they can walk me through it and all but then when I questioned, "What's causing this so we can tell the customer?" And EVERYTIME, "We don't have an answer yet." And that was back in 2013. And yea, let's put a ecoboost in all our vehicles. Almost just as bad as Dodge, Chrysler, Fiat or whatever the hell they are now, dropping a Hellcat in every vehicle they make! LOL Bring back the cars of the late 90s to mid 00s!
@dskwared2u610
@dskwared2u610 2 года назад
My 3.7 is still going strong. I've never purchased a turbo vehicle and I'm not planning on it. Thanks for the video.
@Yogazies
@Yogazies 2 года назад
Loved my 3.7 in my Mustang.
@roenick371
@roenick371 7 месяцев назад
here in Europe we no longer can buy a Ford without turbo 😢 bloody downsizing. Still driving my good old 2006 Mondeo with 3.0 V6
@dskwared2u610
@dskwared2u610 7 месяцев назад
@@roenick371 I think the 5 liter V8 Mustang is the only non-turbo left here in the states. The 3.5 turbo is what they're using as the large engine in the F-150. My 3.7 has become obsolete.
@KathleenOsborne-z2i
@KathleenOsborne-z2i Год назад
My 2018 with 81k miles just diagnosed with same issue. Thankful I bought the extended warranty first time in my life.
@krishall4518
@krishall4518 2 года назад
I guess I should consider myself fortunate. After 130k miles, I've not once had to add oil or coolant to my 2.0 ecoboost. Good content. I now know a few places to keep my eye on.
@fpaltenhoff86
@fpaltenhoff86 Год назад
What year and vehicle?
@krishall4518
@krishall4518 Год назад
@@fpaltenhoff86 2013 Focus ST
@jacobianmail
@jacobianmail 7 дней назад
Same. 2.0t escape with 165,000 with no issues.
@robinyhr
@robinyhr 2 года назад
I’m glad I got the 2.5 engine in my Escape, 120k miles with no engine issues so far. I would love a fully loaded Escape with the 2.5 engine, too bad Ford decided to prioritize Ecoboost engines on those.
@kevinW826
@kevinW826 2 года назад
The 2.5 is the Mazda motor. I have the exact same one in my 2011 Mazda CX-7, 155,000 kms.
@andiarrohnds5163
@andiarrohnds5163 2 года назад
the 2.5 is just a bored mazda 2.0... those engines were great. better than any toyota
@bradnoyes7955
@bradnoyes7955 2 года назад
@@kevinW826 The 2.0L Ecoboost is also based on a Mazda engine (the Mazda L engine specifically), not sure about the 1.5 & 1.6
@kevinW826
@kevinW826 2 года назад
@@bradnoyes7955 I know the 2.0 and the 2.3 were originally Mazda motors. Ford screwed them up
@jeedwards1981
@jeedwards1981 Год назад
@@andiarrohnds5163 really better than a toyota engine? explain
@Starsnu1
@Starsnu1 2 года назад
Great video. I owned a 2014 Focus Titanium and got rid of it after 4 years with only 22k miles on it. The issues were the transmission which was an absolute piece of garbage. and the the engine oil leaks which is what finally did it for me. I took it to a Ford dealer and also to an independent mechanic to confirm the diagnosis from the dealer that I need about $2500 in new gaskets, and seals. The independent mechanic told me it would better to get rid of the car as he had seen many issues with these Ecoboost engines, and the well documented double clutch POS transmission issues that Ford knew about before production but sold them anyway. NEVER again will I buy another FORD vehicle. Really sad, because my wife, the prime driver of it, loved everything else about the car and so did I. Ford should rename these engines EcoBUST
@paul9156c
@paul9156c 2 года назад
Ford has the same reliability issues it's had since 1988. I won't buy one.
@jasoncaine2600
@jasoncaine2600 2 года назад
The titanium doesn't come with the ecoboost 🤷‍♂️
@Starsnu1
@Starsnu1 2 года назад
@@jasoncaine2600 Jason, you are correct. Thank you for correcting me. The fact remains, Ecoboost or not, the powertrain in that car and the one in this video SUCK. Another testament to FORD's lousy engineering and lack of customer care.
@1forddan
@1forddan 2 года назад
I bought a Mustang 5.0 and older Escorts in the 90s and they run awesome
@ncmomma7384
@ncmomma7384 2 года назад
This pretty much happened to my son's 2011 Ford Edge. 78,000 miles on it. We are the second owner. Still owe a small loan on it. It stinks that this is happening to alot of people. Ford needs to make this right!! People don't have alot of money especially nowadays and to have a major issue like this. It's just wrong!
@HashBashArchive
@HashBashArchive Год назад
Had my Eco Boost engine rebuilt instead of replacing it. Saved a lot of money. My Eco Boost engine is in my 2017 Escape. Hope I don't have a future problem with my rebuild. I'll keep a close watch on it.
@jaybernstein5354
@jaybernstein5354 2 года назад
I had the same problem with my 2019 Ford Fusion. They replaced the short block. I just got the car back from the Ford dealer 2 days ago after almost 5 months in the shop because of part shortages. Luckily it only had 52,000 miles on it so it was still under warranty. They loaned me a 2022 Ford Edge to drive while it was being repaired.
@jarredashley3426
@jarredashley3426 2 года назад
Exactly why I traded in my 18 escape 1.5L. One engine, one steering rack, and a cracked flex plate later... all under 50k miles! Sad because we really enjoyed the car.
@herkloader34
@herkloader34 2 года назад
Excellent video, sir! This makes me want to sell my wife’s 2014 Titanium Escape while it’s still running and looks like new. We always drive it easy and hardly ever get on it, but every once in a while, I get a whiff of coolant for a few seconds. The tank level stays normal and nothing leaking so I hope the smell is just coming from the coolant tank vent for now. It also has 72,000 miles, but not driven too often since my wife works from home. It’s had quite a few road trips, but hardly anymore. I think it’s time to sell it while it’s good and move on. I’ve always told people these mid level Fords aren’t built to last for the long run. Not with the cheap materials used nowadays. Thanks again for the video, Brian!
@rxwhat33
@rxwhat33 2 года назад
Go trade it in on a Toyota RAV4 or 4Runner, get rid of that hot garbage while you can!!
@phillipkalaveras1725
@phillipkalaveras1725 2 года назад
Stop driving it now and sell it!
@mateiux
@mateiux 2 года назад
B T Escape 2014 if Titanium then it has the 2.0 engine - no issues, there is no block replacement for that engine and no known issues with the coolant, Brian presents a 1.6
@fenderbender5987
@fenderbender5987 2 года назад
Stick with your intuition and sell while you can.
@americanmotorsam-caz524
@americanmotorsam-caz524 Год назад
There is no coolant vent besides cylinder 2 lol, He's saying it runs at 20 - 21lbs of pressure thats constant except when it cools down. Thats why there is a fill mark on the reservoir bottle for expansion. You can't vent coolant it's a hazmat chemical.
@jeffpiatt3879
@jeffpiatt3879 2 года назад
Re-visiting this. The real shame is that these engines and the power they make are so amazing! I have rented a few different cars- Edge, Taurus, Mercury Marquis, that have the engines and the performance is wonderful. Really hope that Ford fixes this stuff. I love their cars. Ford engineers ought to run their ideas by you, before production.
@mondocjenson-dy8zd
@mondocjenson-dy8zd Год назад
There is a lady in the Carolinas who owed over $17k on the car/escape and Dealership still charged her over $5k++ to fix vehicle. 😬
@jeffbenes9995
@jeffbenes9995 8 месяцев назад
I had 40,000 on my 17 Escape 1.5 and I got a notification saying 1 time replacement, got a new engine and cost me nothing. Very happy with Ford and my dealership
@H20-Water-Pro-LLC
@H20-Water-Pro-LLC 2 года назад
I know this is against the recommendation but, I have had luck with draining all the coolant and filling with 100% antifreeze with no dilution. The fluid is thicker and will slow or stop being ingested by the engine. Worth a shot.
@chrisrossman9566
@chrisrossman9566 2 года назад
The gen 1 2.0l Ecoboost is probably the most reliable with a closed deck design of the block. When Ford went to the Twin Scroll Ecoboost was released in late 2015 they went to an open block design, much weaker.
@TheOnlySgtRock
@TheOnlySgtRock 2 года назад
How can you know which one you have? Car in this video was a '14.
@Troydizl
@Troydizl Год назад
This is the 1.6l you can see it on the sticker
@Arrozconchopsticks
@Arrozconchopsticks 10 месяцев назад
This isn't made clear often enough. The first gen is a closed deck, Mazda based block. I believe the 15 or 16 Edge received that 2nd Gen engine first.
@jacobianmail
@jacobianmail 7 дней назад
Mine is a 14' 2.0t with 165,000 miles with no issues. Is 2014 the better block?
@chrisrossman9566
@chrisrossman9566 7 дней назад
@@jacobianmail Yes
@josiahkunstman8168
@josiahkunstman8168 2 года назад
I got the 2.0EB in my 2015 fusion titanium and it’s been a great motor. 148k on it and it’s been tuned for 31k miles running 22 pounds of boost. only thing i’ve had to replace was the purge valve. the car gets driven hard and it’s never let me down, nor am I ever afraid to floor the thing.
@jackd1582
@jackd1582 2 года назад
🤡💩
@SegwayBossk
@SegwayBossk 2 года назад
I bought a Fiesta ST brand new from the dealer. Car had 32 miles after my test drive, and the first fill up the car stumbled and died.y purge valve was defective on a new car... Lol. At least my tuner is a great guy and replaced it no charge
@champinsoccer9
@champinsoccer9 2 года назад
Very good to hear. Thanks for the comment
@Ciloteille
@Ciloteille 2 года назад
60k on my fiesta st, 26lb boost stock engine. Tuned since newish. Evap line failed, stock turbo did leak coolant. Hybrid turbo fixed my coolant issue. My friends st fiesta is 100k with big turbo 34lb boost. Still no issues. Some luckier?
@fpaltenhoff86
@fpaltenhoff86 2 года назад
Its a gen 1 2.0. From what I understand, it seems to have the coolant intrusion issue the least I assume because it’s based on the mazda L series. 2017 is when they went to the gen 2 in the fusion and thats mainly where the 2.0 issues are
@phin12710
@phin12710 2 года назад
I have a 2017 Ford Escape SE with the 1.5L Ecoboost with 28,000 miles and my wife has a 2015 Lincoln MKC Reserve with the 2.0L Ecoboost and hers just rolled over to 70,000 miles 2 days ago. As of yet there have been no major issues but I will be keeping an eye on the coolant from now on. I'm due for an oil change in a couple of weeks so I'm sure they'll inform me of any visible leaks. Thanks for this valuable info.
@jd5179
@jd5179 2 года назад
My neighbors Escape ecoboost needed new engine after 50k miles . Same issue- coolant consumption- overheated and toasted the engine . They were out 800 miles away from home. Not fun experience . Although it was covered by extended warranty - you dont wanna be stuck in the middle of freeway 800 miles away from home.
@piperathenry1971
@piperathenry1971 2 года назад
Thank you for always posting amazingly helpful videos. You’re an absolute legend bro , much respect ✊🏽🙏🏼
@keeganhall8334
@keeganhall8334 2 года назад
Great video! Unfortunately this exact thing just happened on my 2018 fusion w/ only 40K miles. Check engine light came on, I took it in to get looked at and boom, you need a new engine… smdh… thanks a lot ford.
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics 2 года назад
WOW maybe Scotty Kilmer was right...small turbo engines just don't last :(
@biffbastion301
@biffbastion301 2 года назад
REV UP YOUR ENGINES!!!!
@vblic
@vblic 2 года назад
All these turbos know is just for fuel economy. Just that stop and go start crap.
@BELCAN57
@BELCAN57 2 года назад
In Scotty we trust.
@BrianTheTrader
@BrianTheTrader Месяц назад
My 2014 just hit 110k miles. This makes me think about getting rid of it while the going is good!
@artemis9789
@artemis9789 2 года назад
I feel your frustration Brian. I have that same look on my face that you had at the end of the video almost daily. Newer cars just don't hold up like older models. I have to disagree about escapes being good cars though lol. I do fixed recon up in Rockford and every time we get one of those in its major repairs. Most often it needs a transmission when it's around 100k miles, or a camshaft because the high pressure fuel pump tappet has a hole in it, or engines because of coolant consumption. Love your content and appreciate your knowledge. Keep up the good work brother!
@GCULPEX
@GCULPEX 2 года назад
I'm in Rockford, maybe you should look at my wife's 2013 escape with 171K. I think it might be leaking.
@randomfishingguy5573
@randomfishingguy5573 2 года назад
With a side view bore scope you can usually see the coolant dripping out of the head gasket. Unfortunately I have seen that too many times
@chrisingram7277
@chrisingram7277 2 года назад
You're right, a bit early to call for a new engine.
@milesoutrighthere9989
@milesoutrighthere9989 10 месяцев назад
Great video. GF has a '17, misfire #1 and losing coolant. just getting into troubleshooting and found this video. Now I am worried, 63K miles.
@christopherpaladin213
@christopherpaladin213 Год назад
Thanks for the terrific information and explanation. Have this issue currently and very disheartened that Ford dropped the ball this badly. Been a great engine until now but once I get mine back, I’m trading in. Cheers!
@lllateralus
@lllateralus 2 года назад
Love the channel. This is why I drive Toyota's. (Ive had Fords and loved them, though.. but this crap is unacceptable)
@bobp7542
@bobp7542 2 года назад
I agree...I have always had Fords but now have switched to Toyotas...My 06 Taurus is still going strong at nearly 300K...Ford does not make well anymore...
@mlieser1230
@mlieser1230 2 года назад
I think the main issue with these engines is the lack of deck surface on the blocks. Probably due to weight savings. I think the blocks are flexing under load and expansion and contraction. A more substantial deck surface will allow for better clamping force when the cylinder head is torqued down.
@fernandobriseno8164
@fernandobriseno8164 2 года назад
Good point
@exil3dlivecom
@exil3dlivecom 2 года назад
Yep... seeing the issue in person, I must agree. The walls are super thin and the water jacket paths are ON it! Freaking engineering fail. Noamount of preventative services will stop coolant intrusion. NOTHING. People need to know this so they avoid these ecoboost engines. It's a money pit.
@chrisrossman9566
@chrisrossman9566 2 года назад
Exactly, that is why gen 1 2.0l ecoboosts with a closed deck are less prone to this issue
@bigdaddymak1439
@bigdaddymak1439 2 года назад
If the block is cracking is has to do with the casting and metallurgy
@exil3dlivecom
@exil3dlivecom 2 года назад
@@bigdaddymak1439 what ever the reason, Ford should recall all engines effected regardless of owner, miles or years. Latent defect.
@bamboo-spined9689
@bamboo-spined9689 3 месяца назад
I have one of these. It lasted 100k. Then started to over heat on long drives, but only past 55mph. I can drives all day long as long as I don’t hot rod it with high rpm’s or high speed driving. It has a major bubbling noise caused by back pressure, which I did a test and did confirm exhaust fumes in my coolant tank. I knew the issue was a bad head gasket, then after getting into I figured out it’s not the gasket but the block it’s self. That’s my luck, and I just laugh now a days. Any ways I used Bars head gasket sealer. For me it has fixed all my issues. No more over heating, no bubbling noises, and even have more power. I did have a small leak and was able to daily drive my car and maybe add coolant once a week 2x depending how much I was driving. So my car was a good candidate for the solution. If yours is overheating and can’t drive it for even 15 minutes I would say it would not work.
@jackcook4772
@jackcook4772 2 года назад
I have a 2014 escape with a 2.0 . It has 214,000 miles with no problem. The 2.0 is a complete different engine than the 1.6.
@saraflores9601
@saraflores9601 2 года назад
Ford should be replacing ALL these engines at ZERO cost to their customers with no fine print yada yada restrictions
@erico1120
@erico1120 Год назад
Glad my wife got the 2016 Ford Escape 2.5 SE and not that EcoBoost crap. Also just changed out the orange OAT coolant with the yellow VC-13-G P-OAT coolant. Coming up on 69k miles and so far all I’ve had to do is replace brake pads and rotors and replace rear struts. Drain and filled transmission fluid at 50k miles. Change oil and filter every 5000 miles.
@DyslexicLunatic
@DyslexicLunatic Год назад
Thank you for placing your content on RU-vid, Brian. Very useful, and very professional. I do some repairs myself, but your video convinces me to let the dealer hand my coolant issue. Most likely covered by my extended warrant. 2015 Ford Escape 2.0 Titanium.
@KI4HOK
@KI4HOK 2 года назад
It’s amazing that it didn’t hydrolock.
@jamesmedina2062
@jamesmedina2062 2 года назад
true but those valves keep spitting out the steam. I wonder what the cylinder walls look like wear-wise
@RPG-oh1yf
@RPG-oh1yf Год назад
I understand this issues is due to a design flaw between the cylinder walls at the headgasket. Headgasket fails and leaks coolant into the cylinder(s). I understand the permanent fix is a new Long block but that's $8,000 to have the shop do it and that's $2,500 even if you do it yourself! Why not just replace the headgasket and get another 50,000 miles out of it for $150 in parts if you are a DIY mechanic?
@twostep1933
@twostep1933 Год назад
I have this issue on my 2016 Edge. Currently battling Ford Canada to cover the repair costs. This is a known design/engineering problem!! Class action lawsuits have been opened against Ford for this! This is a safety issue! The recall to "fix" this, was installing coolant level sensors....
@willwaconsya3433
@willwaconsya3433 Год назад
I had a 2011 F150 with the 2.3 eco boost. I put 75,000 on it. I never had this issue with antifreeze burning or loss. The problem we did have was the rear differential over heating from a faulty fit of the gears. You could fry an egg on it when it was hot. It took three returns to the dealer befor they finally fixed the problem. I now own a 2019 F150 eco boost. 11,000 miles so far. No problems yet.
@stephenandloriyoung5716
@stephenandloriyoung5716 2 года назад
I just this morning heard a condensed version of this from a friend who is a Ford engine tech. It takes him 18 hours to replace a short block, he said.
@ricdenali4213
@ricdenali4213 2 года назад
What causes the block to leak? Is the casting too thin? If you replace that engine, think about a tear down video.
@jlons1104
@jlons1104 2 года назад
Exactly, like to know what and where the problem was. Over heated that caused the block to crack, the head cracked, head gasket failed. If the whole block needs to be replaced then the block failed.
@alextran8188
@alextran8188 2 года назад
Not enough surface material between the cylinder, and the heating/cooling cycles of the engine causing the top of the block to crack over time.
@timheinrich3752
@timheinrich3752 Год назад
Super disappointing that this is an ongoing inssue. In the Maverick subreddit it seems this might be an issue with their 2.5L engine in the hybrid too.
@landonthompson5604
@landonthompson5604 2 года назад
When I was a tech at a Ford dealership I was one of the unfortunate ones who had about 5 of these Escapes already in the back line area waiting for the new replacement block with all new fasteners and gaskets too, at one point I would remark that I would know that I've died and gone to hell if I was working on another EcoBoost Escape.
@jaymartinez8208
@jaymartinez8208 Год назад
I have a 2015 Ford Escape Titanium Eco-Boost 1.6, And there’s smoke that comes out the engine after 15 minutes of using the vehicle and I also keep adding anti-coolant every 4 days because the level goes down. What you think it might be?
@DonnaStevens-hs4uv
@DonnaStevens-hs4uv Год назад
LOL....
@gmag1969
@gmag1969 2 года назад
I just took my 2019 escape in to the Ford dealership today for this. It needs a long block and luckily it's under warranty so it'll be replaced free of charge.
@nikkiladybug
@nikkiladybug 2 года назад
I have a 2017 Fusion with ecoboost. 65k miles (luckily I bought extended warranty) I took it to dealer for water sounds in dash and they diagnosed me with needing a new engine (block I guess they told me engine) and said the gaskets are on backorder with no ETA. I’m just glad I bought the extended warranty bc mine would have been up at 60k
@MrShepardDog
@MrShepardDog 2 года назад
Guess I will hang on to my 2008 PT Cruiser turbo a bit longer. 120,000 miles, runs like a new car, no coolant leaks, no oil leaks, fun to drive.
@ΓιώργοςΨευτινάκος
The lack of deck surface on the block is the main issue on those engines and the coolant consumption and yes the common secret ,head gasket failure. I think that was the main reason for the headgasket failure issues on Rover K series engines.
@jimh.412
@jimh.412 2 года назад
Hey Brian -do the new Rangers (2020 and up) have this problem too? I thought the 2.3L was a good strong motor?
@FusionBoost2.0
@FusionBoost2.0 2 года назад
It is
@lemniscate2218
@lemniscate2218 2 года назад
Thank you for your amazing upload. I had the 2013 and I didn't have that problem although I had it for 5yrs and sold it with 77k miles and got a toyota camry instead.
@RodeoRides
@RodeoRides 2 года назад
2018 MKC 2.0 32 thousand miles bam time for the long block, covered under power train warranty thankfully.
@LeeSmith-dx7gg
@LeeSmith-dx7gg 2 года назад
It’s a shame that as long as they have built engines that there’s an issue like this and they just keep manufacturing them. Then they wonder why Toyotas and such sell more. That’s poor management and a sure way to put oneself out of business. Thank you for your honesty as it is a trait that has become rare.
@luigigrand717
@luigigrand717 Год назад
Wow great video! My 2013 ford escape 1.6L is losing lots of coolant too!
@TwoPair72
@TwoPair72 Год назад
I must have gotten one on a good day. ‘17 Escape 2.0 w/ 80k on it and still running well. It’ll idle rough every once in a while. Drop in fuel system cleaner and run if hard in sport mode, it clears up.
@MatSpeedle
@MatSpeedle 7 месяцев назад
As someone on Engine #2 in my 2015 1.5 Focus I feel this customers pain, mine failed at 103,000 Miles. It had never missed a service in it's life and was a very healthy engine before it went pop. Luckily I was able to source a fairly priced good used later 2017 1.5 for mine. Hopefully one day Ford will be held accountable. They build them to last under 10 years these days, I've only kept the car so I can get the value out of the lower millage engine.... but I consider selling it everyday... It's a shame as I love the car otherwise.
@jamesconway4821
@jamesconway4821 2 года назад
Never ever allow your coolant to be mixed with other coolants. Understand even when you take your vehicle to the actual dealership there's still a high probability chance that they will add coolant without checking to see what kind of coolant was originally in the system. Mixing coolant is not compatible or advisable to any engine. Despite manufacturer claims. Plus you should never ever use regular water. If you are going to use water as a mixture make absolutely sure that it's at least distilled water.
@BillWood1
@BillWood1 2 года назад
While what you say is true about not mixing and using distilled water, none of that would lead to the coolant leaks he is showing. That is from some amount of warp + possible gasket problems on the mating surfaces between the engine and head.
@rickybradham7814
@rickybradham7814 Год назад
Brought my 2018 ford fussion for the same problem. The said the would do all the work for free. Got it back after 2 months drove it for 2 hours and now the car had to be towed to another dealership. Safe to say I wouldn’t wish this on anyone.
@maryhausler8900
@maryhausler8900 2 года назад
I have a 2018 Escape 1.5 EcoBoost. Transmission was leaking at 30k miles. Ford replaced the torque converter under warranty. Last year just before the factory warranty expired I purchased an 5 year 100k powertrain warranty just because of this problem. Yes it covers replacing the engine.
@vs4571
@vs4571 Год назад
What are some alternative motors you could swap in?
@sakomeow
@sakomeow 18 дней назад
The only good Ecoboost motors are those based on the old Mazda L/F engines. All the Ford clean-sheet designs have had significant issues.
@larrygratz7695
@larrygratz7695 2 года назад
What a great video! I'm so glad I sold my Ford stock a year ago. I'm hearing that their electric/hybrids are having some problems also. Really sad - what the heck is happening to American quality? Now I need to find out if my 2017 Chevy 2500 has any particular problems!!
@normanbuchanan9710
@normanbuchanan9710 2 года назад
thanks bro for calling out and exposing those crooks.
@ichigoking1990
@ichigoking1990 2 года назад
Had my 2017 Ford focus S sedan manual transmission with ecoboost and never had that issue
@dalton111111111
@dalton111111111 Год назад
I found my leak on the bottom of the coolant resivoir I was glad it wasn't anything more serious !
@Phynellius
@Phynellius 2 года назад
I mean I had a 2013 Fusion with the 1.6L Ecoboost and I surprisingly didn't have any engine issues. The ABS sensors and their wiring was a mess and one of the harnesses passing through the firewall had to be rewired due to shorts. Overall the maintenance costs weren't that high. Edit: To clarify I put around 200 000 KMs on it
@CJ-zz9ts
@CJ-zz9ts 2 года назад
Add the rest of the EcoToilet lineup as well
@robwebb780
@robwebb780 2 года назад
I’ve got 118k on my 2013 2.0L eco escape. No issues other than some failed front wheel bearings.
@sdrape4964
@sdrape4964 2 года назад
The more I see these videos, the more I'm convinced that Ford is making Job 1 to be planned obsolescence. This is as ridiculous as those little HVAC pods in the dashboards of these Escapes that requires door removal (which, to Ford's credit, they did engineer the hinges to allow for easy removal & installation) to get to and replace.
@NATUREMAN360
@NATUREMAN360 2 года назад
I got the 1.6 engine in my 2014 Fusion and no issues with the engine so far and at 60k miles
@chefseanr34
@chefseanr34 Год назад
I have a 2017 Ford fusion 1.5 ecoboost it has the same problem . California has a class action on this but ford needs to recall and replace this is embarrassing for the US car industry.
@eddieliao1500
@eddieliao1500 2 года назад
Great vid. Like your sharing how to locate issues. Really useful. Some info. If you search for Ford TSB 20-2100 and Ford TSB 19-2346, you would find lots of vehicles were affected by this design flaw. As per my understanding, it seems Ford has conducted recall on those vehicles.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco 2 года назад
Those are just informational TSB's not recalls.
@DarkenedFin
@DarkenedFin Год назад
My 2013 Mondeo skipped a few steps, no coolant consumption, no codes, but catastrophic engine failure under moderate acceleration. Blew the head gasket, sprayed coolant into cylinder 2 and scratched the aluseal. No more Fords for me ever after that bs.
@Northeast_progeny
@Northeast_progeny 2 года назад
Makes me soooo glad my 2017 Fusion has the NA 2.5!
@crosslink1493
@crosslink1493 Год назад
I was looking at buying a 2023 Ranger this model year (local dealer has quite a few with no mark-up), but I knew this problem existed. When I asked the salesman about it he said 'its been fixed for 2022 & 2023'. I came home, hopped on the web, and found lots of videos and other websites saying/showing the issue still exists in the 2022s, but no data yet on 2023s. Nope, not risking my cash on a 2023. I can wait a while longer before buying a new vehicle, and there's a good possibility it won't be a Ford. ☹
@DonnaStevens-hs4uv
@DonnaStevens-hs4uv Год назад
Yes its true 2017Ford escapes with 1.5 ecoboosts do use coolant quickly after i had it 3 years.....i also noticed the big hose pipe that goes around the engine to the side has some kind of leak.. its kinda oily dark substance near the hose clamp..
@1490WKRO
@1490WKRO Год назад
That is a shame about these vehicles because they look so nice. Fortunately we have a 2011 Ford Escape with the 2.5 duratec with about 150,000 miles so I wish Ford would make Motors like that to put in all these cars
@fasthracing
@fasthracing 2 года назад
In the UK they did a recall for potential cooling issue. Not heard of that many issues over here.
@willdaley8046
@willdaley8046 2 года назад
Had my block replaced in my ford escape a year ago
@mabbaticchio
@mabbaticchio Год назад
I had this issue on my 2017 2.0 fusion 3 years ago. My mechanic told me to try K-Seal in the coolant. It seems to have fixed it and haven't been leaking coolant since. My warranty was already up due to mileage so never brought it to the dealer.
@BigSlick40
@BigSlick40 4 месяца назад
It's not only their engines but the transmission has issues as well. Just had the trany replaced under warranty. Only cost us 500 bucks for our deductible.
@rodriguezcarlos7095
@rodriguezcarlos7095 Год назад
Thanks for these videos. I have a 2013 Ford edge 2.0 EcoBoost. do those engines have the same problem?
@annettesurfer
@annettesurfer 2 года назад
So which vehicles have less major repair-prone components? I just discovered the issue with direct fuel injection because a family member brought his 2012 Impala 3.6L over with multiple cylinder misfires that a mechanic said needed his fuel injectors replaced. Since the charge was almost a grand, the guy just continued to drive it that way for many months before I heard about it. I recall someone else doing that and eventually the catalytic convertor was completely clogged to the point it wouldn’t even hit 5 mph. Anyway, I pulled the plugs and was shocked at the hard carbon-like rocks bridging the spark plug gap. And it got worse when I removed the plenum to replace the fuel injectors..the intake stems and ports were caked with a sort of baked-on carbon. A compression test revealed an issue with cylinder #3 and to a lesser extent cylinder #1. Then a leak-down test revealed the intake valves are leaking. I suggested the engine needed a valve job but the guy is down on his luck so having the heads machined appears out of the question, not to mention @ 175K, a new timing chain and water pump would be prudent. Anyway I did my best to wire-brush/vacuum out the carbon crud and reassembled everything with the old de-carboned spark plugs and old injectors, just to blow everything out without ruining the new stuff. Didn’t work that well though since it still had a multiple misfire. So I installed the new plugs and injectors, which improved the situation but the engine sort of lobed at idle and was smooth as silk on the freeway. I attributed that to the leaking intake valves. I sprayed some Berryman B-12 into a PVC port near the throttle body while keeping the RPM around 2K and it wasn’t long before the idle smoothed out. Well it ran great for about 3 days before he filled up and made it almost a hundred miles on the freeway before it sputtered to a stop. Every time the pedal is pressed, the engine bogs down. And those cylinder misfires are back. The only code is misfire. I thought maybe the gas was the issue but he swears he always buys his fuel at the same place. I plan to check it first anyway. Guess I’ll try a better spray before resorting to pulling the heads to hand-lap the valves with valve grinding compound. I told him an engine with only 37K miles is available for only $700+tax so I hope he considers it. I just wonder if this PCV oil blowby problem would’ve even happened had his oil changes been pure synthetic rather than dinosaur oil or a syn-blend. No matter, people need to be warned that direct injection doesn’t perform the normal valve cleaning of port injection. So that means even fuel cleaning additives won’t clean the intake valves.
@dannygarcia2486
@dannygarcia2486 3 месяца назад
own a 2014 fusion titanium AWD 2.0L has shy of 126,000 miles.. recently noticed a bad oil leak and the coolant reservoir is seemingly low and added a little into it
@jimrusch22
@jimrusch22 Год назад
I sincerely hope Farley will conclusively address these quality problems.
@nofuksgiven8779
@nofuksgiven8779 4 месяца назад
Everybody who’s having these issues report ford knew about the issue since 2013 it happens for all the 4 cylinder vehicles report to NHTSA so ford can do a Recall
@Phoenix7570100
@Phoenix7570100 Год назад
Back in July I had to replace 6 of these engines back to back because of this issue. Tsb 17-20 I think for any vehicle with this issue. The tsb should extend the warranty I could be wrong on that I can’t remember. If you have this issue take it to the dealer and get it inspected.
@FordTechMakuloco
@FordTechMakuloco Год назад
A TSB does not extend any warranties ever.
@marioncobaretti2280
@marioncobaretti2280 5 месяцев назад
Caddy northstar had that overheat protection in the 90,s
@gcraig0001
@gcraig0001 Год назад
Many people are blaming the open deck design for the issue, but the open deck is there for a very good reason. When you expect a very small engine to produce a large amount of power on a regular basis, you have to make certain you have proper and even engine cooling. The open deck design is the answer that not just Ford, but many other brands have come up with to improve the cooling. The reason some boosted open deck engines have this problem and others do not most likely involves metallurgy as well as an overly aggressive design parameter that doesn't leave enough material at the top of the bore, resulting in cracks. It's a bad deal for those who get the leaky units, and Ford really should step up on any vehicle with under 100k miles for sure. Sadly, current management doesn't seem to be as customer focused as their predecessors were 25 years ago, and in fact they seem to be ready to abandon ICE's and go all-in on electric. Big mistake in my opinion, but my opinions weren't always welcome when I worked there, and I'm sure they wouldn't be now.
@n0w3lly90
@n0w3lly90 2 года назад
My Focus ST is fine. Mind you I don't rant the socks off my car for prolonged periods, and I regularly replace oil (every 7500 miles) and coolant I drain and replace too, regularly
@joeMW284
@joeMW284 Год назад
Flush the cooling system and do a Blue Devil treatment. If you gotta chuck the whole engine anyway, might as well give it a try.
@PaulysAuto
@PaulysAuto 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing this with us Brian...always highly appreciated 🙏
@Rzero512
@Rzero512 Год назад
I have no idea what y'all are talking about. My 1.6L ecoboost transit connect never had a single problem until about 250K miles. The valve cover gasket had flattened out. The trans went out, but I blame that on DFW traffic. Other than that, not a single issue. Still have it, still runs like a scalded dog. But I always have driven it hard and fast which kept it all blown out. Usually around 4K miles a month. Oil changes every month. I really took great care of it. When we changed that valve gasket a few weeks ago it was the cleanest engine you've ever seen. Both cellinoids were spotless and whatever the magnet thing is, was spotless. I'm saying it was immaculate. It all comes down to how well you take care of/maintain your vehicle.
@keithearnshaw2754
@keithearnshaw2754 5 месяцев назад
I have a 2018 escape 1.5L around 80k miles number 2 spark plug porcelain cracked and caused a misfire. Replaced the plugs and it was good. Now it’s got 85k and the same one cracked again and is a dead misfire. I’ve been lucky enough that no pieces have gone into the cylinder. I think I’m going to put higher octane fuel in it and see what happens. No sign of coolant consumption as of yet (knock on wood) but I’m sure that’s next…
@IMSOOOOOOOOOFAST
@IMSOOOOOOOOOFAST 2 года назад
My 2013 escape has had NOTHING but issues since I purchased it. This was my first car I ever bought and unfortunately will be the last Ford I will ever purchase. Coolant leaks, numerous check engine lights and now at 130,000 the transmission is giving out. Was hoping to get 200,000 out of it but as time goes on that doesn't seem very likely.
@andykolbin1783
@andykolbin1783 2 года назад
Would you happen to know if Ford released an extended warranty program a few months ago for the 1.5 Ecoboost engine? Coverage increases to 7 years, 80,000 miles from original date of purchase.
@trevordantzler5781
@trevordantzler5781 2 года назад
"Which one of these is not like the other" ....hysterically funny!
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