@@kingyonkobeats411 both are great headphones. To learn more about the differences between the PRO and PRO X headphones watch this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-m8I31VdoJGw.html
Beyerdynamic, please consider developing a professional USB DAC DT900 Headphone. Imagine something like the tiny little ESS Sabre DAC AMP that's built into an Apogee Groove within the headphone itself so the headphone cable simply plugs into the USB device. My DT990's 250ohm simply live connected to an Apogee Groove but I always think I should just rewire the Apogee Groove directly into the DT990 cups or headband because there's no point them being separate devices, when such a sound can come from such a tiny little Apogee Groove over USB. It would be the complete 'Active' USB headphone monitoring system. Same Headphone DAC AMP and so sound whatever device you plug it into! The Apogee Groove is even ASIO drivers, so perfect for music production too.
Very interested in the 900s but for now im pleased with the tygr 300r with dekoni fenestrated pads. I really would like beyerdynamic to start doing planars.
Hi Thanks for the detailed and precise review of both 700 and 900. I am planning to purchase a headphone for audio/ vocal editing on logic pro, listening to music or movie would be secondary. Do I need an amp with Beyerdynamic dt 990 pro in order to do audio editing? or I should go for Beyernamic dt 900 pro or dt 700 pro for audio/ vocal editing?
You shouldn’t need an amp. Impedance is pretty decent on both sets of headphones. Ideally you’re editing with a set of headphones that’s as neutral as possible. Personally, I’d go with the 900s for this task but I’m sure you’d get great results with either set.
Great review - thanks! Keen to try the 700s as a big fan of the 770s, as they do get a tad sibilant on some occasions. A better, modular cable is also very welcome.
Hi Geoff, thanks for your video! I'm looking for an open back headphone to improve my mixing and mastering monitoring (I own a pair of MDR 7506 and ATH50x). I was trying to decide between the DT990 pro or DT1990 pro, and now I have this new alternative. Do you think the 900 and 1990 worth the extra money? Wich one would you pick? Thanks again!
Hey Geraldo. Thanks for the kind words. I do not own pair of 1990 or 990s, unfortunately. The only critical listening headphones I own are the Sennheiser HD650 and now the DT900 Pro X. If Beyerdynamic would like to throw me the 990 and 1990s I’d be happy to compare everything the ‘nine’ range and give you a proper answer!
Thanks man, I just got the 900 pro X's with the help of your reivew and some other reviews. I'm excited to start using them and will be switching between monitors in a treated studio and the headphones for extra checks.
Great video! I always made my music on studio monitors, but more often i take my Sennheiser HD25 (i use them for DJ stuff and gaming). They are coloured, but i love how precise you can work with headphones compared to monitors. Time to step up the game, just ordered the DT 900 Pro X :)
Hey! Care to share your thoughts on the 900's with a fellow producer/engineer? I'm looking to pick these up, but I can't decide if I should go with these or something like the HD 560s. Much appreciated! :D
@@andyboi8283 Excuse me for my late answer! I didn't enjoyed the 900's because they were no "fun" to listen to. I know that is what they are made for, pure almost clinical precision, but it's just not for me i guess.
Hello. I very much appreciate your rich vocabulary (which is not stereoptyped at all like so many testers on youtube who use the same catchy technical terms but which we can clearly see that it only serves them to fill in a real absence of reflection or thought). You express a whole bunch of nuances not only from a technical point of view as a sound engineer but from a psychological point of view, it's very interesting and really pleasant to listen to. You do not specify in this video what is the level of ohms have the DT 900 Pro X that you use for this test. I'm curious to know.
Noob question: Will the open back 900 Pro X be suitable for streaming while talking into a mic? Or will audio leaks out from the headphones back into the mic?
In my view, the 50-65hz range on the DT900s 'knocks' a little more (fundamental of the kick for example is a touch more upfront), low mids I'd say are a little more neck and neck in terms of sonic representation across both headphone sets. Please ask me anymore questions you need. Hope that's helpful.
Amazing video! So Do you mean that you can make some critical decision with the dt 700 pro x that you weren't able to make with the dt 770 pro? (As the 700 pro x are more accurate than the 770 pro, and I can mix with them if I just have these with me… right?)
I still look for logical explanation how and why dt770 V shaped with harsh treble weak sub bass are used for mixing... I have them but regret buying... To me they are pretending to sound good, where what they try to appear sounding clear they sound harsh Almost with whistling treble and sub bass very weak and body of the bass missing completely, yet they have punchy bass but narrow.. Not sure how and why these headphones are used for studio. I would be interested in Sony 7506. They sound mote relevant. Dt 770 hype bandwagon failure with too many fanboys enjoying their crappy sound
Ultimately I would not recommend using the 770s or the 700s for critical listening…IF you can afford the 900s, which in North America are exactly the same price as the 700s. That’s not to say that you absolutely never ever should use 770s or 700s for critical listening but by Beyerdynamics own literature and engineering the 700/770 are for tracking, not for critical listening. If you’re looking for new critical listening headphones and have the money I’d spring for the 900s, hands down.
@@ManchesterMusic Aha... One more question please, do you think that the dt 700 pro x are more colored than the dt 770 pro? Or more accurate? Cz you said that they have more bass...
@@ManchesterMusic ok right I wish I knew this before everybody uses them for mixing. So basically 770 sound like crap because they can, because they used for tracking and for tracking the only vital function is that they have to be closed not to get the sound out... Damn. I knew they are band wagons , but again for tracking any headphones can be used so they have an excuse to sound bad as they do
So…. we now seem to have THREE „tiers“ of headphones from Beyerdynamic to consider. From „lowest“ (cheapest) to „highest“ this would be (for open back) the DT 990 Pro, the 900 Pro X and the DT 1990 Pro. As someone owning the 990, I’m now asking myself if (detachable straight cable aside) the difference between the 990 and the 900 Pro X is big enough to warrant an upgrade, or if I should rather save up and get the 1990 some time… 🤷♂️ Or in other words: Do you (or anybody else reading this) have an idea if the 900 Pro X are closer to the 990, or to the 1990 (sound-wise)?
This is an interesting question. If Beyerdynamic is interested I'd love to do a nuanced comparison between the 990s, 1990s and the new 900s, unfortunately I only own one of the three sets.
@@OneShortMoment Yes, these are the EXACT same questions I have. As a current and proud owner of the 990 Pro’s, I wanna know if upgrading to these 900 Pro X’s is actually an “upgrade”.
Ok so first thing that I want to mention is that I am not a music creator or reviewer so I wont be talking about frequencies but I love listening to music and gaming occasionally and I can spend hours watching/reading audiophile headphone reviews. I used to own 770s(80ohms), 1770s, 990s, 1990s (250ohms each) and couple of other headphones. When I first got 770s and 990s I loved them despite the fact that treble are quite harsh somethimes but that depends on the music you listen to and you need some time to get used to it. The openness/soundstage of closed 770s and bass was a big positive surprise for me coming from HyperX Cloud 2s. Bass on some songs was like siting next to speakers. After getting 1770s I was very disappointed. Treble were not as harsh which is a good thing but they sounded more closed than 770s and bass was like one tone boomy slap. Imaging and separation were basically the same in my opinion. I compared some bass heavy tracks and 770s were vibrating on my head were 1770s have not. There was no subbass at all very disappointing so I sent 1770s back after a month. Now let's talk about 990s and 1990s. My overal impression was very positive with 1990s to the point that I have sold my 990s. First and most important thing is that they have fixed treble, not a harsh anymore as 990s and better bass, it has more punch to it. Not even close to 770s but definitely better than 990s. Imaging and separation as good as 990s. After few months of daily use for music and gaming I really missed the openness/soundstage of 990s and I did regret selling them. After pandemic hit us all I've lost my job so I had to sell all my headphones so I'm on the market for a new pair as I kept HyperX only and they are decent and sound like 770s little brother. I definitely wont be getting 1770s or 1990s as they are overpriced and not worth spending that much for what you get. There are better options out there for this price. I will be looking out for direct comparison between 770s and 700X and 990s and 900X as Im really tempted to get 770s and 990s again. I also got my eyes on AKG 702/712pro as I've heard a lot of good opinions about them. Some mixed but mostly good. Apparently they are sounstage monsters some compare soundstage to 800/800s that cost over 1k. Maybe I will get AKG and 990s to compare them myself or maybe I will get planars as I never owned a pair. Journey for end game that never ends.
How is the beyer peak on those? im not really into mixing but more of a listening guy and currently deciding on a pair of new headphones to keep. I had the dt770pro, i liked it, peak was just .. bearable, any more and it would be too much but way to much bass and i felt to claustrophobic in those closed cans. Dt990...that beyer peak is literally killing my ears and while i dont say that ''sense of more clarity'' with increasing treable is a bad thing for some uses, i dont think i would want that for an every day allaround listening experience. Sennheisers sound way more relaxed to that from what ive heard so far. So currently i have an eye on some used 650/6xx but that was before i heard there are 900 Pro x now. since they are all around the same price range. i can get a used pair 650 for like 200 6xx goes for like 180 (europe so its kinda hard to get them) 250 for the beyers. They all are around that pricepoint that i wanna put my money on.
I need to listen through a pair of the DT 700s. I've been a Sony MDR 7509 user for years, although I never mix in phones... Salutations from wet, grey and still sorta weirdly not back to normal Ireland! ☘☮🤘🏽🤠👍🏽☮☘
Very informative - I was looking at the 660s v the 900 Pro X. As I wear glasses comfort is critical and so I think I will save a lot and go with the 900 Pro Xs.
try investing in a thinner framed glasses. I used to wear a medium thick frame and found it very uncomfortable on most headphones, even the lightest of headphones would cause pain. I even ended up using IEMs instead. But then I changed my glasses and all of a sudden every headphone I've ever bought become wearable over long sessions. Best decision ever made.
@@maaax573 yes. They are very well made with lots of replaceable parts. Very open sound stage, comfortable and can work with mobile devices and phones. I’m very happy with the investment. They should last for years. They are quite sensitive and so may need some form of attenuation cable or connections. IFi make one I think.
@@andrewcrossley2448 do you know if the sound leaks a lot? It's an open soundstage but can other people in the same room hear the headphones loudly? I'm thinking of using headphones for mixing but also games like for footsteps/positioning so I'm hoping these will work well for that
Great review. I’ve had the DT-700 Pro X for a little over a year and the only complaint I have with them is the pleather headband falls apart every 6mo. or so and I have to spend $30 on a new one..😡
I am most definitely looking at both the 700s and the 900s. Mainly for consuming content. Choices choices a beginner has to make. Excellent review. Love your content.
Amazing video... So now I'm a bit undecided. I'm starting with video editing and I constamtly am listening to music, I was trying to buy the 990 pro (that a lot of people used it to game too) but the 250 ohms kept holding me back because I don't want to spend another $100+ on a Dac and an Amp , so I saw the 900 pro X but I don't know if is worth it the price difference or if the quality is good enough for music listening / video-audio editing / games?
Same here … I love to listen to Spotify, i play games and have no amplifier or external sound card … so i hesitate between the tygr or the pro x ones or the older ones in 32 ohms
Ended up buying the 900 Pro X and Not gonna lie, I love them. At the beginning I had those headaches due to pressure but the book trick helped a lot and now the fit perfect. Spotify sounds warm, wide and not crisp at all, I can hear all instruments clearly (I listen Metal, Lo-fi, EDM as reference) just like a good pair of speakers in my room. For games I noticed the difference from my last Play Station Gold Headsets, the Pro X open back helps to have a better spacial recognition, hear better distances and steps (Played Destiny 2, Apex, Warzone and Minecraft, for reference) and I used to play without the music but now it doesn't sound overwhelming as other headsets My opinion (as a non audiophile or audio expert) I loved them, the build is great, the cables are great, the sound quality is amazing. I totally not regret my choice.
@@waltererojas6 was hesitating too, between closed up or open, as i will only use them at home, and most of the time into a calm environment, maybe the 900 pro x are worth it too for me , and maybe later i'll take the soundblaster gc7 to enhance even more my headset ^^
990s tend to be too bright on their highs, is that happening to the 900x too? Can I trust highs on 900x or shall I learn this characteristic of such headphone?
I've been testing out both the 990's and 900's and so far the 990's are much brighter in the highs, quite harsh when you compare them to the 900's. The highs are more dampened on the 900's. 👍
Well, how's the highs on the DT 900 pro X?! Was it fine & better than the 1990s? Because I don't like the 8.5khz peak in the 1990s. I hope they avoid that harsh high range on this one.
You have my endgame dream headphones ;-; Also, If you have the 1990s, why would you even look at the 900s? The 900s are like a pebble on the road for you lmao
I have the 'regular' DT 990 PRO 250 OHM version, and I've been very happy with them. I particularly like their 'compromise' of boosting the lows a bit more than you might expect from mixing and mastering headphones. I think that was a great choice. For mixing and mastering I juxtapose their sound to my BOSE Studiocraft 330s. (It's a 'choice', I know. But it works well for me.)
It is true that the DT 990 Pro "regular" is good, even ideal, especially for music alone (no of false bass added). On the other hand, for listening to films in HD quality (even the great classics of the period), I find that they lack profundity, there is not enough of this impression "cinema" sound field. I don't know (but I hope) that for the Pro X version this depth will be slightly more present, even if it is of course open and not closed headphones.
Not sure I understand the question. If what you’re saying is that the bleed or spill from your headphones is being recorded into the mic I’d recommend closed-back headphones like the 770/700s.
@@ManchesterMusic if just one closed back headphone u recommend, which one it would be? Because whilst i record my vocal by listening the instrumental, the music coming out from the headphone also gets recorded through the mic.
Thanks for the review! But I like to have a more detailed review, especially in terms of sound comparison between the DT 770 and the DT 700 (Bass, Mids, Highs, Soundstage, Imaging,...). The same goes for the HD 650 vs. DT 900. I had a lot of headphones in my life from 5 $ - 3500 $ and my favorite headphone of all time is the HD 650 (how I perceive a natural sound signature, the HD 650 matches it the most). So it is interesting for me to know, how the HD 650 differs in detail from the DT 900 in terms of sound.
Thanks Intreppit. The 650s..yeah they are pretty unmatched for me, at that price point anyway. Given that I use(d) the DT770s for tracking and content consumption I didn't think it useful to approach the review of the 700s vs the 770s on the merit of critical listening potential. I hope you understand. My 650s own that role and now the DT 900s will share the load, perhaps. If enough folks want, I'd be happy to do a review/comparison of the two on a more nuanced, detailed, sound level.
I just ordered a dt700 and I am hoping I like . I have the 770 but now getting cut out from the coiled cable that's now mangled . So the straight cable is a big deal for me . I tried the audio technica mx50 and sending back due to the lacking of comfort for extended use . Great reviews
I’d say, what’s the job you want your headphones to perform? The 770s are a closed back headphone, designed for tracking instruments in a pro or project studio and perhaps the odd mixing job. The 990s are open back and designed for critical listening (mixing, mastering, repair). Figure out what you need them for and go from there.
I bought 770 2 weeks ago. Big mistake. Waste of money. Even 30$ koss 30kph that sound more balanced or even superluxes 681 Evo that cost 32$ with better, fuller sub bass are more balanced that terrible harsh trebly tin cans dt770
@jzo good to know. I thought I might like 1770, but I will look elsewhere. No company serious about sound can release 770 for any use. They are NOT true to sound. they lack body and make bass sound lean. It's there but it's narrower sounding. I was testing few headphones where dt770 were most expensive and I bought them due to RU-vid fanboys swearing by them, but they are another example of bandwagons hype that people follow blindly probably by mass following hysteria. I was testing them on various instruments and multi sample recordings of studio quality drums in my Korg synth, and those kicks for example that are robust sounded lean and narrow in dt770!!! How is that possible these crappy 770 are even used for tracking!? Yes they have bass but that bass spectrum is very narrow and even EQ is not making difference because their driver is not able to transmit those frequencies!! Big flaw!! Then I was listening to tidal 320kbps various songs, various genres and music sounded again lacking something and sounding lean in dt770. Cheap superluxes 681 Evo much more true to life having body and fullness, and I am not talking necessarily bass here! People get all technical using frequence response graphs thinking that's all that is to the sound which is big mistake, there is much more factors but they solely go with graphs and forgot to use their ears!!! And I repeat specifically older (80s-90s) music with clean pronounced instruments are lacking bigly on dt770 where $30 681 Evo perhaps not as detailed, but still provide fuller more balanced and pleasant listening!!. I mention older songs because newest songs have too much fillers, such as risers, swooshes, and even lo-fi so those instruments are not as clear as when music was recorded for CDs. And not even going to the whistling piercing treble on dt770. I mean the fact these are recommended by everybody on RU-vid besides few (DMS headphone guy shares the same opinion as me btw and he is much more knowledgeable about headphones), but again every other music producer RU-vidr recommend these... Mind-blowing. No more crowd advice following by me. This was last drop for me to confirm people are using recommendations and stereotype opinion of others instead of their own ears and senses
@jzo the thing is I have no more budget left for headphones. I am just listening q30s from Anker... That's unbeatable hi-fi experience for 60-70 bucks... But only on Bluetooth since I suspect they are powered by internal amp or chip. On cable they are dull but I still listen sometimes to them. It's crazy sound for money... They also have dedicated EQ app. again we are talking 60-70 bucks, but they might stop making them since they already make q35 which supposedly are not as good. I just swapped these ankers with dt770 back to back comparing ...and It's completely different fidelity experience... I might buy another q30s damn if I get them for 50 bucks somewhere. Also I wasn't implying before superluxes better than dt770, but I was putting things in perspective for fraction of a cost. Dt770 still sounded metallic, sterile, piercey, they have bass and even sub bass but there is still something missing in low frequences to me. Feels incomplete. The thing is when ppl don't have other headphones to compare everybody will adapt to what they have and think it's good
@jzo the whole point of the headphones is to replicate an accurate sound of what was made...if you can't "hear bass" in headphones not made for casual listening then that's completely normal because if the bass in your project is too low then you'll know what to boost. Remember casual listening headphones aren't balanced like mixing headphones are they boost certain frequencies to give a better sound or more bass etc...
I've been umming and arring about the 900s to replace the ATH50xs that I've been using for a couple of years now, I just feel I need a bit more clarity in the highs and not sure I'm getting it from the ATH'S - any thoughts from anyone on this would be welcome! Mainly production and mixing happening for me :)
Anybody know if you can rip out the plastic ring on the ear pads and put them in aftermarket ear pads? For example something like the Dan Clark Audio Alpha Pads?
Great vid! IMO if you like Sennheiser HD650 more, then I think it would be much better to buy Drop Sennheiser HD6XX for $220 + shipping (in europe) than Beyerdynamic DT 900 X for 250 euros. (senns are even cheaper)
I’d be inclined to assume that the price difference between the two *suggests* that the 1990s offer a sonically better experience than the 900x. That being said, I haven’t heard the 1990s though so I have no idea what qualitative differences there are between 900x and 1990. I’m a firm believer in trying before buying/advocating. I’ve asked Beyer if they can send some for review because so many have asked your exact question.
Nice Geoff! I like my Sennheiser HD650 and wouldn't change at the moment. However during the summer I was looking for some closed back and very quickly became discouraged because I couldn't actually try on the headphones. Now Im not sure if thats because of the plandemic. 'Durh'... So Im going to hang for a while. But interesting to hear your view point. Thanks!
I understand that Beyer sent these out to you and you may have been obligated to say certain things about the headphones, but the hd650 is about the same price as the dt900 and dt700, so you should be comparing them at the same price point. The hd650 is not some crazy high end headphone like you make it out to be.
Reviews, thoughts, opinions are my own. In my country, the 650s are $599 on Amazon. DT 700/900 are $378. A $221 price difference might not be a lot to some people, but it's a lot to me. Completely disagree.
Just got a 900 version, the xlr cable or the connector is so poorly made it doesn't plug in properly and will randomly cause static. ffs sort your shit out Beyerdynamic.
