The fact you can ride it without power is the game changer. My old Ebike was not compatible with being ridden sin gas and therefore had a very real range of 35 miles. You were then walking home, pushing a heavy bike.
15 years after getting back on a road bike at 50, three heart attacks later I have to keep my bpm to 126 max= dropped like a stone on the climbs in group rides, so.... a month ago I bought a Pinarello Dyodo which has the hub mounted emotion electric motor with the battery in the down tube - A GAME CHANGER!
This crew is the total A-Team. I want to see you all in a Mission Impossible style movie, but on bikes. Dustin: charismatic leader. Doug: the muscle. Ron: the sexy one. Abe: good with knives. Sukho: the assassin. Devin: the wild card.
I just bought a Creo and I love it. Did a 115 kms ride and 1,500m up recently and it was so easy and enjoyable. Great bike. When the motor isn't on it just glides.
You didn't really ride 115kms and 1500m up though. The motor did a fair chunk of it. It's good that you got out but think about getting fitter. Maybe start using limits to motor use so you get stronger. If you're able bodied, push yourself and then you'll become fitter and stronger. There lies the huge benefits of cycling. Good luck
Im in northern california for a month, and have been (using) a Creo. everything he says about it is true, how can I go back home and ride my plane old Scott bike after this. Hands down my best experience on a road bike EVER!
The best experience on a road bike is the satisfaction of knowing you pedalled the whole route. I would counter that ebikes create false achievent perspective and are allowing riders to ignore progression in fitness and strength.
If people need an E-bike to take up riding, you already have a problem. The motor encourages laziness and reliance on assistance. Be honest - how many able bodied people do you cycle past on totally flat ground using E-bike power to move along every week? For me it's a lot of cyclists. You're not going to buy an E-bike and then trade it in for a normal bike if you're already looking for help to begin with...
It's pleasant to ear French. Generaly I don't understand every thing you say but today... it's the same. J'adore tes vidéos! Merci à toi et merci à ton ami Monsieur Orange.
DK you should’ve got the auxiliary battery that fits in the bottle cage. Gets you an additional 30 to 40 miles. No more range anxiety. I have the cheaper Turbo Vado SL which is the most versatile and fun bike I’ve ever owned. Works great for gravel, road, commute
Oh man DK! E-bikes are pretty amazing - not ready for one yet, but every borrowed ride is delightful! haha!!! My biggest hangup is that I do not want another thing to plug in- I try to be a minimalist. But I am not an e-bike hater, although I don't care for the throttle ones. Dig the vids dog. Cheers, Steve TTF
Thoroughly entertaining video. You get all the salient features of the bike covered in a milieu of fun cycling camaraderie that reminds me of many of the group rides I've had with my buddies over the years. I see that Portland is still just as wet as usual in the winter as it was back in the early 90's when I lived there. Neat logging roads and rural sections. Good tip on the Epic Rides app. Kudos to the video editor.
went on 170 mile trip. 7000 foot elevation gain, only on the internal battery. Left the big climbing for the assist, and the rest, like a bike, no assist. Was loaded with camping gear as well. Went to turbo for the last 10 miles, got home with 30 percent charge. Loved the help up. The rest was a good bike ride.
Great video...I've owned a Creo E bike for 2 years ... rides like a gem. Early in the season, lots of power..later in the season as I build endurance not so much. Love that I can do greater distance...it's a gem. thanks for the video
You guys are the best . I love your passion for the bikes. I'm older then you guys but I still love to ride bikes. My baby is now a 2021 Domane HP ebike. Riding is so much fun, I don't fear long hills anymore
Great video, best cycle vlog on RU-vid. That bike is perfect for the working videographer. . Plus by not using the power you were pushing 30 plus pounds uphills. That’s a workout. The elevation in your rides is awesome. Thanks.
As a native Oregonian who burnt out on most things Portland, you guys make me homesick and remind me of the good times and good people back home. Having ridden the Creo, I agree. It's not a scooter, it's a bike, a real bike, an awesome bike. People think they are mopeds, or every time you ride it, it's automatically in Turbo mode, and that's just not the case, at all.
Considering that you'd only have to output another 30-40 watts to make up for the added weight of the Creo, you can program its level one (Eco) to output this amount (roughly 10% with a 40% response rate) and the battery reserve will be quite enough for the long ride. You program it using the free app, Specialized "Mission Control". If you added a "Range Extender" external battery you'll be able to easily complete the ride, with an amount to spare that could have been used for more output from the higher level (Sport) keeping Turbo at 100% for those times when you may need it (steep hills, wind). By the way, you don't have to turn it off to get no power as there are FOUR (not three as you stated) selections of power. Just keep the top button pressed for a few seconds and the pedal power will be off but its internal power meter will still output to your bicycle computer.
I live in the Bay Area and bought the Turbo Creo SL expert actually in Portland after test riding while on vacation. I love that bike. I adjusted the standard mode battery assist down to basically compensate for the weight of the bike. I use it in that mode for most long rides and climbing and can get better than rated battery life. It is so nice to bump up the power when facing long miles in head winds or just need a bit of help on a stretch of a long climb. Bottom line there is now no ride too steep or too long with this bike. It is also really comfortable and smooth riding bike.
So cool. From Portland. Have ridden most of those roads but not all in one day. Just ordered my Creo SL Comp Carbon and I am stoked. Will swap to knobby tires when I start some trails.
"Totally thought this ride was going to be too much for this battery" barely uses the battery during the ride. HAHA. Good to see how much you can ride this without the assist, until you want it. I am VERY seriously looking at one of these right now due to worsening health issues, and after looking at every e-road and e-gravel bike on the market, this just make fit the bill. I'll finally be able to do my old climbs again!
That's definitely how an ebike should be used. I bought a Vado 4.0 last summer. And it's really been a game changer for me at 71 and not riding a bike since 1975. But it's dog heavy and a slug if you should lose the assistance. Yesterday at my LBS I was offered test ride on a Creo SL. Holy moly!!! Such an amazing bike. Without assistance it's a great bike; even old farts can ride unassisted (such as myself). But when you turn it on, it's kinda subtle with power in lower level. Like you know it's there but not enough to feel guilty about using it and you can still get your workout but extend your personal range so much further. And then there's second gear 🤣, the second power level, still somewhat subdued but definitely you know it's working. Great for cruising while exerting maybe half of your regular efforts. And finally turbo 😝. When you really need some assistance or just because you have it and want to feel the wind on your face. What a machine. Now to figure out how I can afford one. 😳 Great video thanks. Subbed
Loved this video. Getting a Turbo Creo SL Expert EVO this weekend. Worry some friends will give me grief about buying an e-bike, but I hope I enjoy it as much as you did!
This is so ffffff good for those who like to take pictures/videos of his friends and making awesome montage and b rolls. Awesome videos man, much love and support all the way from the Philippines 🇵🇭
My wife has an ebike ordered, hopefully arriving in 2 months. Hers is more commuter style and weighs 45-50 lbs but she is stoked and a lot of your thoughts resonate with our experience test riding. She is hoping to commute 9-10 miles much quicker and ride with me at a faster pace.
Have the Creo EVO Expert. Even though I'm not devastated after a long ride (50+ miles), I still get an awesome workout because (1) I don't have the power on all the time - only on hills, pretty much; and (2) I'm lugging a 30lb bike when I don't have the power on. Fun video!!
i’ve got a bmc alpinchallenge soooo much fun. no pwr ridin out get coffee sit around for a hour stiffen up at 59 years old then full pwr back in. fn amazing bike.
Video is tops...period! Limited experience on e-bike for me means my opinion salt to taste, but my sentiments exactly. I’ve been thinking of getting on e-mtn bike for extending the range and helping me climb the grinders, but now it’s gonna happen!
Can’t wait to get my Turbo Creo SL Expert EVO on Saturday. Seems like not only you but any blogger testing the bike was absolutely stunned. Thanks for this great review! 👍🏻
Man! Im all about the E-Bike. If it helps you get a bunch of rad shots then bring it on! Edit: I also love when we get to see everyones snacks. Always love the bonus food content.
I run 27.5 to lower my Center of gravity and 29 for more roll-over and pedal clearance if I go off on singletrack Sidenote: Considering I rode my 33+lb fat bike on a group-ride, I'd LOVE a 32lb E-Bike
I discovered your channel last summer and I have to say your videos are so entertaining. The music, the editing, you guys joking around. Much love from Germany!
I'm impressed with the way this thing is spec'd out and engineered. Great vid. The mandalorian bit in the last one was one of the funniest bits you've ever done. Glad you've moved on from the boring 5mph mtb vids.
I've been riding the Creo for 2 years. A lot of my buddies on the group ride still thinks of it as a cheat. That is until I turn the motor on and pull the entire group home into a blistering head wind! I have the aluminum version which is about 50lbs. It's definitely difficult to ride into the wind and that is why I bought it primarily for those windy days down here on the coast in South Texas. I've raced for years, still ride a Venge on calmer days. I just don't want to punish myself anymore, so I really don't care what anyone thinks anymore, it's too much fun to ride and you can make your own pain or ride ez on those harder days. When I turned 60, it was my gift to me!
I rode this route today, got home and now I get to recap it. I thought I saw a lot of tire tracks especially between the gates on wildcat mountain, musta been you guys!
Love my Creo. 3000 miles in 4 months. Leave the bike on the whole ride, to shut off the assist when you want by holding the mode change button for 2 seconds. It will show battery bars but no assist bars. In eco at 35% I do about 4wh/mile. So 80 mile range.
Hey Ed - I just put the remotes on and its how it was meant to be (well the hack where the left shift lever controls it is _really_ how it was meant to be). Its great having the light hooked up to the main battery, too. Will never forget it again.
While there are several clicks on the dial, the Future Shock 2.0 compression damping has only two settings. Open and closed. Setting the dial in the middle is the same as having it set all the way open.
Super cool to see it work so well for your shenanigans! It seemed like you talked more and were a bit more animated - prolly due to not having to work quite so hard!? Awesome vid, Dustin.
They should use a dyno hub to recharge the battery, maybe actuated by a switch to turn it on and off like a secondary brake. I can't see myself using an e-bike but I wish I could afford some for people in my family to get them into riding.
If I like you...that is so awesome but if I somehow don't like you...that is also awesome. gots to say another highly enjoyable video and its my 3rd one that I have watched. I like your style mr Klein.
Today...day #2 on my Turbo Creo SL Carbon...one take away...there seems to be an optimum cadence to each power mode in order to max speed out for effort in...all good ;-)
Welcome to the party. Absolutely amazing isn’t it? Just wait till you realize how strong it makes you feel when your analog bicycles… That’s the next revelation
Dustin! I've searched and searched for this song (even within the link you provided) and I can't come up with it! Would you be able to throw me another bone? :P Maybe what episode it's from? Thanks
Nice, mostly a roadie, it is fun, started with an Orbea Gain, love it. mix on/off pwr, have never experienced a flat battery... even 60+ miles. Creo must be like an Orbea Gain on steroids, with at least another setting... or two. Me like!
Haha! So much fun hey? My wife has an Ebike and I'm trying to hang off buying one. When we're climbing I look across at her smiling at me and tell her to at least pretend to be breathing a little harder. Yes! Just a matter of time and I will be on one. The refined bikes are happening. Also... Are the Dexter gloves really the same as Sealskin? Great video again. Love it.
As a relative noob cyclist, but completely hooked. (got bike last May, wahoo & strava in June... 1600+ flat IL miles later, I'm seriously looking into upgrading from entry level tiagra trek to ultegra Di 2 & carbon frame canyon.) I get it... using for filming & making your vids, or for commuting to/ from work. But for the fitness rider or mile eater I don't see the need. I get motivated by segments & miles markers, electric motor is cheating IMO.
That's pretty cool. I can see one of those in my stable some day (once they get more affordable). Question....if the homies also get similarily equipped...hows this going to work for filming and catching back up?
I’m a former bike racer with congestive heart failure. I got an eBike in 2017, and started riding again with my former bike racer wife. I got her an eBike late summer 2020. She was actually a little angry with me for buying her an eBike. After doing a few long climbs at 25-26 mph she was hooked, and I was faced with the dilemma of losing my superpower advantage. So, the new rule is, only I get to use turbo mode. Problem solved :)
