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Bf109 Tactics Hi Yo-Yo 

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Thanks to No.501 Osprey for helping me create this video. Creating these maneuvers when you know what is supossed to happen is very tricky, proberbly more so than actually doing them for real.
Often these maneuvers are not done in true text book fashion, as is the fluid nature of aerial combat but adhoc basterdisation forms as you will see in this video.

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@vanjabilic3361
@vanjabilic3361 7 лет назад
This is the best High-Yo-Yo BnZ instruction video I've seen. I've seen a lot. Will try to implement this with the K in DCS World. Thank you.
@colonelmustang4919
@colonelmustang4919 5 лет назад
"We politely decline". Great phrase lol. By the way, very good examples and instructions. I drop a like and share it
@jaideepsinghjeji8444
@jaideepsinghjeji8444 4 года назад
Colonel Mustang hey KH
@carlosagaton5561
@carlosagaton5561 6 лет назад
Hey I noticed the pun 4:58 "we pilotley decline" that was good
@deino117
@deino117 11 лет назад
I totally agree - this is amazingly informative. I've enjoyed lots of other CoD vids but I've never learned so much so quickly. Brilliant stuff.
@5jg27farber
@5jg27farber 11 лет назад
Thanks, I am a 109 pilot almost exclusively, If I get bounced, I run like Hell. However a lot of spitfires I bounce pull a hard tight mangled S, first the go up as I come behind them, then hard one way and then dive and then the other way - if I try and follow I black out.
@royraiden
@royraiden 11 лет назад
In air combat the term energy is used very often.When you are moving fast you are high on kinetic energy,when you have the altitude advantage you are high on potential energy which can then be converted into more kinetic energy when diving down.The high yo-yo is a great tactic to keep that energy as high as possible, specially when fighting against better turning planes like the Hurricane and Spitfire.
@Spartan18a
@Spartan18a 11 лет назад
Simply one of the best tutorial videos I've ever seen! Two thumbs up!!!!!
@ulfricsombrage
@ulfricsombrage 6 лет назад
Awesome tutorial vidéo for bf 109 pilots. Thanks !
@5jg27farber
@5jg27farber 11 лет назад
Yes, however I would only use that if I was positive I was safe and I was going to perform a finishing blow. The offensive barrel roll or lag displacement roll is used when you are going to over shoot your target and you actually want to slow down and end up behind him.
@Luke-tm5oy
@Luke-tm5oy 4 года назад
Great video man ! thank you so much.
@steelpanther88
@steelpanther88 11 лет назад
Hurrican had a killing shot at the end of scissors, just after he got damaged. You were kinda floating right in front of hurricane at the end. but luckily he didn't take the shot! so you won nicely :D
@hb9145
@hb9145 3 года назад
Well done! You are using the Messerschmitt as it was designed.
@CameronSpencer
@CameronSpencer 11 лет назад
I like how you explain the tactics. :-)
@callsignnictmere465
@callsignnictmere465 7 лет назад
Well done. Thumbs up.
@ulise89
@ulise89 5 лет назад
WW 2 ace pilots always used to say - speed is life. P 51 pilots used the tactic boom and zoom against bf 109, because they knew it's impossible to outmonoeuvre a messershmitt or a fw 190 in tight turns. The key of their success was the speed, use the altitude to convert in speed or use the speed to convert in altitude ;boom and zoom on your enemy and go back to safe altitude where he cannot pursuit you.
@celesteorsa3918
@celesteorsa3918 2 месяца назад
The 109 would perhaps have beaten a p-51 in turns at medium-low speeds, but a fw wouldn't have succeeded. At high speed the P-51 was better than both at turning and the American anti-G suits allowed more Gs in turning... Both German planes were designed for energy combat and not for turning combat...
@mjszczepankiewicz8496
@mjszczepankiewicz8496 6 лет назад
Cool, i can watch it over and over again
@toonsis
@toonsis 4 года назад
one I learned this in the bf- 109 I was a danger to others and no longer a danger to myself
@timej31
@timej31 11 лет назад
Very good video. Many people will learn a lot from this. Salute -Doc
@TheBarrackuda
@TheBarrackuda 11 лет назад
I absolutely agree with Spartan. Keep them coming, please!!!
@mikesmiltarybooks
@mikesmiltarybooks 11 лет назад
Excellent tutorial! Thank you.
@CapFreddy
@CapFreddy 6 лет назад
Really good video and flying. I would've let go some bursts on some occasions you didn't. Sometimes I feel like even thought you make a difficult deflection shot you might get your opponent nervous and he might drain even more his energy. Nevertheless, perfect flying, just pointed out my thoughts....
@rakemasta
@rakemasta 11 лет назад
Nice vid and great flying - keep up! S!
@f1v313
@f1v313 8 лет назад
Very very good video! Thanks!
@Pilotwad967
@Pilotwad967 11 лет назад
Отличное методическое пособие! Достойно введения в обучающие треки игры, если бы они существовали.
@Daggerxxx
@Daggerxxx 4 года назад
This Sim looks very solid , never played it !
@existentialvoid
@existentialvoid 11 лет назад
the principles work for every plane - if you have an e-advantage, you keep that advantage. . .and use high e acm. The 110 is a lot heavier, and the margin for error is far greater, it loses e a LOT faster (if anything the 109 can build e so quickly) and you basically almost never recover it. So for the 110 I would use more traditional BnZ rather then rolly, loopy yoyo and vector rolls.
@TeutorixCR
@TeutorixCR 11 лет назад
oh thanks for the clarification, you are right.
@HO-bndk
@HO-bndk 5 лет назад
Yet the highest ever scoring real life bf 109 pilot never bothered with, or in fact ever even heard of, any of this finicky over-analysed (and frankly anachronistic) "fighter maneuver"stuff.
@squidboii
@squidboii 4 года назад
Source? Maybe your ass? Plus, we are flying in 2019 and thus can use ideas from this era... or should everyone still connect via the telegram to play their flight sims, using only doctrine from that era, for realism?
@Manstein74
@Manstein74 9 лет назад
Nice , but the guy in the Hurricane flys not at the limit.
@toandothe
@toandothe 7 лет назад
great video, very details
@Slovakson1
@Slovakson1 11 лет назад
I have 1946 but I agree with Spartan18a. This was very helpful, As good as Dart's tutorials although not as humorous; )
@stevezee5171
@stevezee5171 11 лет назад
Thanks for this video Farber! It is very helpful and I have practiced this in single player mode. I sometimes cannot get my 109 out of a spin using the accepted technique of opposite rudder and nose down though? But practice ........practice....
@golfo0011
@golfo0011 5 лет назад
That's the right way!
@MartinJaszczuk
@MartinJaszczuk 10 лет назад
Great video! Thanks for this! Are you doing a lot of prop pitch management when you do this?
@5jg27farber
@5jg27farber 10 лет назад
Yes, although a friend pointed out to me that often I actually leave the pitch alone and just close the throttle for the dive and use loads of throttle on the climb. The 109 pitch speed is slowish so this method helps for lots of quick changes. However obviously no throttle hi pitch in a dive acts as a brake. Please check out my new channel: Lehrgeschwader Eins - Stay on Target!
@flycatchful
@flycatchful Год назад
This maneuver only works if your plane has the speed advantage.
@hairypaulsack
@hairypaulsack 7 лет назад
+5jg27farber wow thank you, never understood the hi yo until now, even with two people in the demonstration it never helped. Thanks for the commentary really helped!
@5jg27farber
@5jg27farber 11 лет назад
Thanks.
@wieristoker078
@wieristoker078 11 лет назад
thanks
@5jg27farber
@5jg27farber 11 лет назад
Perhaps however the elevator does not seem as responsive to me so what you might keep in energy you might loose in time.
@ty19980
@ty19980 11 лет назад
nice example of what 109 pilots should do and be patient bet osprey wants to get u back on STOW the weekend farber lol No64_Tyrone
@shua247
@shua247 11 лет назад
Good tutorial in the old il2 I loved the spit but 109's just outran me and outclimed all the time. Have you got a tutorial on how to counter zoom and booms with a turn and burn? Thanks
@5jg27farber
@5jg27farber 11 лет назад
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@stonech4t
@stonech4t 11 лет назад
Love your videos. Could you tell me your system spec?
@5jg27farber
@5jg27farber 11 лет назад
None exist so it is up to us to make them. :)
@joshenarvidsano9976
@joshenarvidsano9976 5 лет назад
But its so hard not to start turning.
@felipesmotta
@felipesmotta 4 года назад
Why we needed check six when 1v1?
@Spartan18a
@Spartan18a 11 лет назад
Could you do one please attacking bombers with rear gunners? Thanks
@TeutorixCR
@TeutorixCR 11 лет назад
i think its called momentum, not energy. Cool video nonetheless.
@shua247
@shua247 11 лет назад
Yuck. Hurricane? It's a wonder we won the Battle of Britain with those planes. I dislike it's characteristics.
@royseibel511
@royseibel511 6 лет назад
You can probably thank Hermann Göring for the victory
@Mollusc1954
@Mollusc1954 5 лет назад
The Chain Home radar system, the management of Fighter Command and the width of the Channel are factors often left out of 'who had the best aircraft discussions'.
@DeafS4vage
@DeafS4vage 11 лет назад
Will it work for the BF-110?
@douglasmacarthur8482
@douglasmacarthur8482 5 лет назад
you can't dogfight with it. hit and run
@steveharrigan7811
@steveharrigan7811 6 лет назад
Hi yo yo is a Viet Nam war era tactic invented by U.S. fighter pilots. Never existed during ww2. Was not a tactic ever used by the Luftwaffe.
@major_kukri2430
@major_kukri2430 6 лет назад
This is not true. I recall hearing of US navy pilot using this in WW2.
@colonelmustang4919
@colonelmustang4919 5 лет назад
Have you a proof of that ?
@bibabutzemann5661
@bibabutzemann5661 5 лет назад
lol the Germans used this since ww1. Gtfo
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