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Big Boy Hit a Tree! And damaged the cylinder Cocks...

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When the Big Boy started up the grade over Donner Pass, it hit a tree!! Well.. that's a problem. Five hours to fix the problems and remove the tree. The cylinder cocks (drains) were damaged on one cylinder and needed to be repaired.
So...WHAT THE HECK ARE CYLINDER COCKS? Let's take a look.
#railroad #pikespeak #bigboylocomotive

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25 авг 2024

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@jacobalger5790 Месяц назад

Not surprised that there was a tree along the mainline. The Sierra is not a friendly terrain and has slides and falling debris quite frequently. Even when you bronco up (a highrailer that goes two miles ahead of the train) you can still come up upon a slide, it's just railroading in the Sierra.

@TrainBoyProductions-ij5fi Месяц назад

Yeah, there’s a bit of thunderstorms that were rolling through. Even in the Midwest.

@ToyManTelevision Месяц назад

Yup. Lived there for two years shoveling snow with a front loader!!

@seabulls69 Месяц назад

True. Several years ago, my boys and I were walking along track 1, about a mile or so south of Colfax, and stumbled upon the remains of a tree that had apparently fallen across the tracks. Tree carnage. I can only imagine what that looked like at the time.

@RScesium Месяц назад

Clear, informative, expert explanation. Thank you!

@ToyManTelevision Месяц назад

You are welcome!😊😊🚀

@garyacker7388 Месяц назад

Had not idea about the Big Boy and thanks for the story about the Pikes Peak RR and the braking system. Dynamic braking with steam! 😊

@ToyManTelevision Месяц назад

@@garyacker7388 never thought of it that way but YES!! 👍

@user-uc9tj5uh8x 27 дней назад

Это выдающийся паровоз😊❤❤❤❤❤

@timseroka8956 Месяц назад

Thank you for the explanation, helps to understand the trials and tribulations of present big boy railroading!!!!!

@everettthepetractionguy4222 Месяц назад

Thanks so much for that info! I learned a little more about how steam locomotives work, today! And with a great crew lead by Ed Dickens, Jr., I know the "Big Boy" will be okay. 👍

@ToyManTelevision Месяц назад

Glad you enjoyed it! We have a traction show coming up soon!

@k6ul Месяц назад

I was in Auburn when it hit the tree. We knew there was damage to “a valve” but there were no further details. Appreciate the explanation! For those wondering the train has a tool car (with parts) and the “steam team” made the repairs on the spot. It took several hours but they were very thorough in making the repair and post inspection.

@seabulls69 Месяц назад

Thanks. I had searched to find the extent of the damage. I managed to find a forum where a guy theorized that 4014 could run on three sets of cylinders, but that apparently wasn't the case.

@MygrandpasTrain Месяц назад

Being in a railroad family I know more or less how cylinder cocks work, but your video today was again highly educational and fascinating to see about the Pike's Peak engine too

@ToyManTelevision Месяц назад

Thanks!!!🚂🚂🚀

@rossbryan6102 Месяц назад

EVEN ON DIESEL LOCOMOTIVES THE CYLINDERS THERE, ALSO HAVE CYLINDER COCKS! THIS IS FOR POSSIBLE COOLING WATER LEAKING INTO THE CYLINDERS WHILE SHUT DOWN! ALSO IT IS POSSIBLE WITH AN DEFECTIVE FUEL INJECTOR TO HYDROLOCK AN CYLINDER! KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!! 👍👍

@ToyManTelevision Месяц назад

@@rossbryan6102 I’ve hydrolocked a jet ski. The seals were leaking in the engine compartment door. And when I’d dork it over the engine would suck water! I’d take out the spark plugs and turn it over. Water mixed with oil everywhere! Keep cranking. Squirt some starter fluid in there. Plugs in. Duck tape the door closed. Back out on the lake!

@rossbryan6102 Месяц назад

@@ToyManTelevisionAN INTERESTING NICKNAME GIVEN ON THE SANTA FE WAS THE NAME “ HACKSAW”!! THE GENTLEMAN WITH THIS NAME WAS HENRY KANIVE WHO RETIRED AS AN HIGH UP MECHANICAL DEPARTMENT SUPERVISOR ABOUT THE TIME I STARTED WORKING FOR THE SANTA FE MECHANICAL DEPARTMENT, SEPTEMBER 1964. WHEN HE HIRED IN AS AN MACHINIST APPRENTICE, HE WAS ORDERED TO REMOVE THE MECHANICAL LINKAGE FOR THE CYLINDER COCKS BY HIMSELF, WITH NO MACHINIST JOURNEYMAN PRESENT! AT THE JOB, HE COULD NOT FIGURE THE PROPER REMOVAL PROCEDURE, SO WENT TO THE TOOL CRIB AND CHECKED OUT AN HACKSAW, AND REMOVED THE PARTS IN PIECES! FROM THIS TIME UNTIL RETIRED , “ HACKSAW HENRY “ WAS HIS NICKNAME!!😅😅 KEEP THEM ROLLING BROTHERS!! 👍👍

@JDubya96 Месяц назад

Thank you for sharing this information, footage and explanations! We really appreciate you!

@ToyManTelevision Месяц назад

@@JDubya96 thanks!

@tomas5376 Месяц назад

Well, that’s a piece of Steam history that I never knew about. Your knowledge and your desire to document this historic Steam engine’s travels brings me much joy! Gracias🚂🚂🚂🚂🚂👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

@ToyManTelevision Месяц назад

Thanks!!!!!🚀🚀🚀🚂

@janetcohen9190 Месяц назад

Nice to learn Union Pacific Big Boy was restored to operational condition and pulling cars. Been following Canadian Pacific 2816 steam locomotive and train tour of Can, US, Mex during recent months. Thanks for video, helping explain steam locomotive logistics, valves, and functions.

@midnightrambler3583 Месяц назад

What a beautiful and amazing piece of machinery!

@ToyManTelevision Месяц назад

True!! 🚂🚂🚂

@arnhaldhalvorsen7223 Месяц назад

Insightful video... loved seeing Big Boy in Roseville, what a treat for railroad enthusiasts to say the least!! Thanks for sharing 👍 🚂''''""""

@ToyManTelevision Месяц назад

You are so welcome!! 🚀🚀🚀

@buckduane1991 Месяц назад

If you ever visit the Colorado Railroad Museum in Golden, CO to see the 491, RGS 20, or 346, you should do a collaboration with Mark E. “Hyce” Huber who works there. They have one of the Pike’s Peak locomotives as well there, and Hyce’s (if I recall the right number of greats) great-grandfather was the Edward Huber of the Huber Steam Tractor Company. After seeing this video, I bet you two could talk for hours on the mechanical details! Even swap stories about the Uintah Railway, I’m sure.

@ToyManTelevision Месяц назад

Love the place!!! I have old video to with Robert Richardson. 😊😊🚀🚂

@adriannettlefold9084 Месяц назад

Hi Dale, hope you and Karyn are well. I really appreciate that your explanations are factual and correct. I would also add cylinder cocks are opened at any time that water is carried over during priming to prevent damage. Which includes loosening of piston heads, Piston cylinder covers and liner walls, bent Piston rod cotter pins or total failure with smashed Piston covers. The pressure relief valves are supposed to prevent that, but blue Peter in England was a classic example of the damage priming can do. Keep up the good work. Cheerio from Down Under .

@loispadgett6306 Месяц назад

I just learned something new about steam engines. I did not know that was why they released the steam. Thanks for sharing and hope it does not delay them to long. GOD BLESS 🚂 💕 🚂 💕 🚂 💕

@ToyManTelevision Месяц назад

Thanks! Blessings right back. 😊

@solarusthelonghaulerrailfa3226 Месяц назад

Interesting that I’ve not been able to find any other videos or articles on this

@strobx1 Месяц назад

EMD diesels have “Condensation cocks” on each cylinder that are opened. The engine (Diesel Engine) is “Barred over” one revolution by hand using a 1.5”by 48” round bar. This is to blow out any water that might be on top of the piston. The engine is turned over a few revolutions without turning on the fuel pump. Then the cocks are closed and the engine (diesel) is started. This will prevent hydrolock which could damage the piston. My dad was a round house helper for the Pere Marquette RR at North Yard in Muskegon Michigan. He told me that if the cylinder cocks weren’t opened, the water could blow the cylinder head off the cylinder.

@nlfgu3a Месяц назад

Can't tell when mother nature is going to throw a curve ball!!. Great info on releasing steam. I had no idea!!

@MySteamChannel Месяц назад

Great job, thank you.

@stevemellin5806 Месяц назад

Wow you never know what you may encounter on the rails.

@ToyManTelevision Месяц назад

Tree!!!!! Oops.

@friscochoctaw Месяц назад

The Pikes Peak steam engines will no longer be operating. When they rebuilt the rail line, they changed the cog/rack system. While they updated some of the former diesel railcars for the new rack, they have no intention of going through the expense to change the cog wheels on the steam engine. I did ask the company directly and that was essentially their answer.

@archviewcondominium8512 Месяц назад

I am priginally from Colorado Springs and have ridden behind steam engin #4. The only way to do it. I love steam. Much better than today's modern cars. That said, I would go to the top of Pikes Peak any way I could, if only it were possible.

@archviewcondominium8512 Месяц назад

Originally

@00Zy99 Месяц назад

I see Donner is continuing its proud tradition of saluting passenger extras with trees. It did the same thing in 1869 to the CP's Golden Spike special. That's why Jupiter was at Promontory-the originally scheduled locomotive-Antelope-was in the shops getting repaired.

@caseyvillemodelrailroad3877 Месяц назад

Great vidio, like the steam effect while engine is blowing off so i installed a smoke unit by the coal , water , facility, neet.Thanks for the morning coffee...

@ToyManTelevision Месяц назад

Very cool! I want to try that.

@aired-downdisconnected4125 Месяц назад

I missed it going through Utah but hoping I see it coming back. I took Friday off just for this.

@HMSSfrigate12 Месяц назад

good to c u again

@heartland96a Месяц назад

Opening the valves allows the steam to preheat the cylinders so water doesn’t condense in cold cylinders

@johncamp2567 Месяц назад

So wonderfully explained and presented that I had to…ZOINK!!….subscribe! (Virginia)

@Adam.J.Reynolds Месяц назад

On the east coast we hit trees all the going up the rail time. Usually after a good storm. It's unfortunate that it caused that damage.

@wkjeeping9053 Месяц назад

In the winter time it so cold that it takes up to 5 mins having those open.

@ToyManTelevision Месяц назад

Wow. Didn’t know.

@Santafefrank Месяц назад

Thanks 😊😊

@jeffbangkok Месяц назад

Good night

@ToyManTelevision Месяц назад

@@jeffbangkok night

@SalmanMentos Месяц назад

Hmmm very intresting

@ToyManTelevision Месяц назад

😊

@rrelectric5159 Месяц назад

I was going to chase that day but some medical issues kept me away. From others that I know that were out there I got reports of other delays. Passengers needing to get off train at Immigrant Gap , brakeshoe fire at Shed 47, crew change east of Truckee. Pretty long day by the time they got to Sparks.

@Jacob-Tabor Месяц назад

PLEASE CALL IT CYLINDER DRAINS FOR MY PASTORS LOL😅

@gmaneis Месяц назад

Thanks for a great explanation. I'm 77, and maybe should know better by now, but I've always been completely confused about the inner workings of steam locos. I still am, but at least I understand what you're saying about those steam release valves! Fascinating about the Pikes Peak train, too. Genius! Question: do they really still run steam at Pikes Peak? I thought I heard they stopped running steam when they rebuilt everything a few years ago.

@ToyManTelevision Месяц назад

Correct. There are four surviving engines. Two of them are still on the railroad and number four was running when I shot that video in 1988 I think. Rate number four could easily be made to run it would just have to be brought up to proper inspections Right now they have no interest in doing that.

@gmaneis Месяц назад

@@ToyManTelevision Thank you. Let's hope that interest in steam is rekindled. Those are great looking tea kettles and an important part of the railroad's history.

@aaronreddick8740 Месяц назад

Grey Pines are dangerous and shitty trees - they are prone to sudden splitting, cracking and snapping in the middle of the summer as well as winter windstorms.

@ToyManTelevision Месяц назад

No Christmas tree fer sure!

@hughwoatmeigh6999 Месяц назад

This has to be the worst thing to ever happen in Donner Pass! Wait a minute....

@Thatmanrailfan-channel Месяц назад

Not the 4014!!😢😢

@TheSev- Месяц назад

I can't confirm the validity of this information; I heard through a few circles that the tree fell across the tracks just as the Big Boy was exiting the tunnel. That would explain why it was there and no one knew about it. Again, I cannot confirm if this is true or not.

@longrider42 Месяц назад

Hey there, any idea why the Diesel Locomotive is back? I'm kind of thinking the PTC they built into the tender is not working right? Or is it because of the need for better dynamic braking? When he left Cheyenne on June 30th, and I took video of him leaving, there was no Diesel Loco. Then watching other video's, I saw the Diesel Loco was back, in a video dated July 4th. So any idea why?

@3henry214 Месяц назад

According to Ed Dickens at the Roseville Q&A session on Friday (7/12), it was for help going over the 2.5 percent grades that Donner Pass has, he said the Big Boy handles 2% or lower grades. Nothing mentioned about dynamic braking, I wouldn't think it would be needed... remember, Big Boy was handling long/heavy loads back in the day before dynamic breaking was a thing.

@john72ss Месяц назад

the train hit the tree? or stopped because it was on the tracks?

@BradHouser Месяц назад

I suppose they are ready for almost anything with a support team and parts on board. How many crew live on the train when it is out and about? And who gets to ride in the dome cars?

@finlayfraser9952 Месяц назад

Dale, is 4014 performing some sort of revenue service with all those cars it is pulling?

@historybuff7491 Месяц назад

🚂

@ToyManTelevision Месяц назад

@@historybuff7491 🚂🚀😊

@timgilman2495 Месяц назад

I wondered why it was stopped for so long in the middle of nowhere near Auburn.

@ToyManTelevision Месяц назад

Yup. 5 hours.

@dfhepner Месяц назад

Would you do a video on the change of cars on 4014. When it left Cheyenne it had cargo cars and when it got to Roseville it had passenger cars. No one has an explanation of the change or reason.

@rrelectric5159 Месяц назад

There were paying passengers on the trip from Roseville to Sparks The passenger cars were deadheaded out to be used for that leg of the trip.

@robertemmons2260 Месяц назад

Do you know if this will delay the Big Boy schedule?

@WandereroftheLabyrinth Месяц назад

According to the news, the rest of the run was canceled. Unless something has changed since last night... nope. Just checked. This tree ruined the rest of the run and Big Boy is, presumably heading home.

@robertemmons2260 Месяц назад

Thus far I'm not seeing any changes being made on the Union Pacific Steam Schedule, but I'm keeping an eye open for any changes. As of the time of this writing, the Steam Location Tracking map is showing that the No. 4014 locomotive is stopped at Hazen, NV.

@WandereroftheLabyrinth Месяц назад

@robertemmons2260 Hmm. Well then hopefully the article I read was wrong. Fingers crossed.

@3henry214 Месяц назад

@@WandereroftheLabyrinth I don't think it was the rest of the entire schedule that was cancelled, the long delay from the tree incident did cause them to cancel the planned whistle stops at the Colfax and Truckee depots, and the planned viewing at Sparks. The rest of schedule after Sparks still shows intact. It was already in the plan to start heading back to Cheyenne after the Roseville, CA event.

@WandereroftheLabyrinth Месяц назад

@3henry214 Ah. Fair enough then. Thanks for the info. ^_^

@Brickticks Месяц назад

In the immortal words of the cow to the asparagus, “OK, this is bad enough, nobody scream cabin or underwear”. Three toots on the whistle if you get what two movies I just referenced.