renny is MAD underrated, she was genuinely a jury threat and wasnt as bad of a player as she was - defo shouldnt be in top 10 of worst players to make the jury here
She in fact probably beats Dan. She gets Keesha, Ollie, April easily and has a good chance of any of Michele, Libra, Jerri. Keesha is probably the only person who beats her, although ironically Keesha likely loses to Dan.
@@ohandthefracking Keesha vs Dan would probably come down to Michele's vote. Ollie and April were super bitter at Keesha so probably only vote her over Memphis, so they are Dan, and Memphis would be Dan. Renny, Jerry, and probably Libra are Keesha votes. So it would come down to Michele, but she probably votes Dan due to April's influence and being close with her.
Renny really wasn’t liked by alot of people, went with her friends and didn’t make outside gabe relationships, wasn’t good enough to win end game comps, and nearly WAW a tag along to the alliance the voted to keep Memphis
Let's not forget Sam literally had a power to stop someone from being evicted and not only did she tell people she had it, but also chose not to use it at all. Like she could've saved Swaggy or Winston and gotten in really good graces with either alliance, but instead it got defaulted to Kaitlyn and we all know how that went.
Renny wasn’t the strongest player, but ranking her in the top 10 WORST players to make Jury??? Of all time??? Had one of the best jury managements in that house and probably would’ve won against anyone. Don’t know why you included her over so many flops over the years. Pretty disappointing list just for that, ngl.
Doesn’t renny beat most people in a jury vote? Renny went utr after her notable fights and was very savvy. Memphis who won no comps had to win that one to take renny out
I just rewatched BB10 and you're completely wrong about Renny... the jury actually said that she would have won against ANYONE in the end. Sure she fought with people, but she never crossed any personal lines and the jury loved her! And she wasn't terrible strategically either
She's a player I think is weak but she's not necessarily horrifically bad. You can make a case some of these people had more positives than Amber but Amber wasn't Raven bad or anything like that
@What's Holden Up great point. my biggest gripe with her though is lack of strategy play. the CONSTANT game decisions revolving around god and swearing on her daughter's life really lowers my respect for her, and her most memorable moment was her outburst on Eric which proves she's mentally unstable and a hard ally to work with. while she's not horrific like the top 10, she definitely deserved a mention if her mate Dustin was getting mentioned
@@thecamishere4344 I agree. I say same thing with Dustin, he's not awful but just kinda weak. They may have gone a little further had it not been for the Americas player twist but that's only because Eric was running the house and would've cut them off when needed to.
I’ll chime in and agree with other comments about Renny. I think she had more strategic acumen than you give her credit for, and from final 6 on she might’ve honestly been the biggest threat to Dan winning the game
Renny probably beats everyone in a jury vote except for Keesha. It is funny since I honestly think Renny beats Dan, Dan beats Keesha, and Keesha beats Renny. Dan vs Renny- Renny gets Keesha, April, Ollie, and probably Jerry. Libra and Michele not sure on. Dan obviously gets Memphis. Keesha vs Renny- Keesha gets Dan, Memphis, Libra. Renny gets April and Ollie. Not sur eon Michele and Jerry, but think Jerry votes Keesha. Dan vs Keesha- Dan gets Memphis, April, Ollie, and probably Michele which gives him the win. Keesha gets Renny, Jerry, and Libra. Renny destroys Memphis (Memphis only gets Dan's vote) and Jerry both.
One correction. Paul did not plan on cutting Matt & Raven before Alex & Jason. Alex and Jason just won some comps that kept Jason longer than Matt and Alex longer than both. Obviously at Final 8 Jason is HOH and no way in hell is Paul going to even try to convince Jason to nominate Alex (which would fail spectacularly and Jason would now in fact go after Paul for even suggesting it I am pretty sure). Paul in fact tried to get Kevin out but Jason refused to even nominate Kevin who he was friends with and nominated Matt/Raven so Matt went. Then Alex is Final 6 HOH so can't go here, so Raven went instead. In Paul's ideal world though Jason and Alex go before Matt/ Raven.
I think the big issue was that the trio of Matt, Cody, and Mark were a good grouping, but when Cody decided to keep them out of the loop about his plan to back door Paul, and him throwing the Veto to Alex without having his alies being supportive of the move ruined any chance of them wanting to work with Cody going forward.
@@picafavo3466 Josh was the only person to successfully outplay Paul in any aspect of the game which was jury management. The only people who knew Paul was a threat were Cody and Josh. Josh purposefully stuck to Paul since he knew him and Christmas and Paul were the true final 3. Josh put on an act to downplay his intelligence as well.
I think big d and Sam are a little worse than Cody just because Cody showed he has at least a little strategic ability while I can’t say the same for the other 2, plus he is 50x better physically than those 2, but I understand based off his performance why he would be number 1
I say this with no ill intent, but this list is genuinely bad. There’s no way in hell you have Renny and Jen on this list...same with having Jess in the honorable mentions. If anything all 3 should be on an UNDERRATED players list.
I'm kind of surprised Sis from BB21 was never mentioned. Sure, she never imploded her game or anything, but I don't remember her doing anything on her own in the game. She just kind of hid behind her alliance.
I've always enjoyed your rankings even when I disagree because I love hearing other people's opinions and reasonings for their placements. This is the first time I actually think a choice you've made is wrong. Renny has no business being on this list. She's taken out because Dan and Memphis don't think they can beat her. She was part of the majority alliance that ran the early jury phase and had a strong, loyal ally in Keesha and in the prejury phase with Libra and April. When she was HOH, she made nominations that were in her best interest instead of the best interest of other people in her alliance. She was emotional at times but she never made emotional decisions. I'm not saying she is a top tier player but she certainly better than Raven and many of the ones listed as Honorable Mentions.
Cody would have been better had that house not been filled with the dumbest people in America. Plus, Paul was being protected by the show producers and setting it up for him to win, which he still couldn’t do, leading to the game going to one of the worst winners in BB history. That season was a waste. Cody was awesome on Amazing Race though.
How on earth are we not talking about Victoria from BB 16? Final 3, nominated 10 times. Only one Veto win, no HOH wins, completely irrelevant to all game play. Just did what others told her to do. Her greatest strength was being completely unthreatening to all other players in every conceivable way.
Sorry but can't agree with your #1 pick in Cody ... he (and the whole BB 19 cast) were behind the 8 ball to start, with having Paul return to the house. Also, Paul was given HUGE power to start with the friendship bracelet thing. Cody was fighting literally the whole season to survive after targeting Paul. That doesn't make him a bad player ... it's just unfortunate he was on a season with a returnee given major powers to make alliances at the very start.
Um, why was BB4 Nathan not even mentioned??!! He essentially played a worse version of Dana's game, to the point where I thought he was going to be #1 towards the end of the video.
The thing about Nathan is he used the POV to save an entertaining ally which shook up the game. This is something we love players to do in modern day seasons. So, I give Nathan a pass for saving the iconic Alison 😂
Feels like the things you thew at Renny are stuff you can throw at the rest of the Bb10 cast lol. Everyone was fighting since day 1. Any Final 2 pairing without Dan likely ends in split votes anyways.
Most Final 2 pairing with Dan ends up in split votes. I hope you don't feel he wins most scenarios unanimously since that is far from true. He "might" win all scenarios (not even sure on that) but he hardly wins any unanimously. If he is against Keesha she gets Renny, Jerry, and probably Libra easily. If Dan ever betrays Memphis for Keesha, she probably gets a bitter vote from him and wins, but I doubt that ever happens. He actually might lose to Renny since I could see Renny getting Keesha (locked), Libra, Ollie, April, and maybe Michele or Jerry, but hard to say. No way he sweeps her though. April/Ollie/Michele obviously always vote each other, so if he is against any of those he loses 2 votes in each case atleast. Not sure on how the votes go against Libra or Jerry, except that Dan almost for sure wins, but his only unanimous win is against Memphis probably. Memphis was the biggest goat of the entire cast, and wins in no scenarios.
But that’s the thing, I can understand bitter juries or wanting to vote for the underdog, but Victoria is one of the few people to make it to the final 3 where I don’t get how anyone could vote for her. She was unlikable, didn’t really do anything except be a pawn, and was always on the outs of what was happening! Compare her to someone like Kai (formerly Kyra) of BB Canada 7. Kai was on the block so many times and was also always underestimated to where they were never in danger of going home outside of the week 2 vote. However, Kai often had power in what was happening, and used the fact they were underestimated to their advantage, biding time until they had an opportunity to make a move. Then in the Final 5, they won the HOH, put the two strongest players on the block, and helped solidify their position in the top 3. I can point to several specific moves Kai made to benefit their game. Victoria was just an airhead whose personality never came back to bite her purely because she was seen as a layup, and she never did anything to disprove that claim!
That's a neat idea. You get people like Chicken George, David Alexander, etc. Probably an unpopular take, but as much as I love the guy, I almost feel like Kaysar has to find his way onto the list. Guy's savvy, but prejury three times out of three doesn't exactly represent very well. Granted, low on the list because he's still got a sharp mind for the game.
@@deepdeathsoldier2761 Davonne is astronomically bad at Big Brother. She just doesn't have the personality for the game. Likes to confront people anytime she hears any bit of tea. Makes people not want to tell her anything. Big reason she got evicted very early 3 times.
Lost all credibility when you said Cody was your #1 worst like he fought like hell to stay but kept getting screwed over by stupid sheep and that’s why they went on to win the next reality tv show they were on:)
Jameeka from Big Brother 8 should have been here, the move of not be able to play for HoHs for 5 weeks is insane, and her decision to use the veto on Jen because “God told her to do so” is crazy, she only went far because she was useless, without a threat of her winning HoH she can’t do anything other than try to with the veto to save herself, that’s it, I’m surprised how people don’t mention her as often, Jen at least won some games even if it was by accident, but Janeeka literally gave her opportunity to play in the first place….
I LOVE this video idea. Pretty much agree with the top 10 except for Renny and Raven. Renny built great relationships with nearly everyone after a rocky start, held her own as one of (if not the oldest) female player ever and also had one of the best HOHs in a chaotic season which left her with very little blood on her hands. Raven was in the core alliance for the first 60 days and was never at threat of leaving until the eviction in the double at F6. I also think she wins against Kevin. I would’ve included some more dishonourable mentions… Zakiyah and James from BB18, Jennifer and Beau from BB6, Cowboy) and Marvin from BB5 (Marvin is a legend though), Donny from BB16, Robert in BB3, Rachel in her BB12 season, Elena from BB19, Britini from BB23 and Azah also from BB23 who is basically a less deluded version of Derek F 😂
BB18 had so many marginal players, now that you mention it. I feel like the only people who didn't flame out or fall flat over time were Nicole, Paul, Corey, and maybe Natalie and Paulie.
i’m a bit curious in why cody was included. in your previous survivor video, you didn’t include people like matt elrod who got voted out pre merge and returned via challenge, so why wasn’t that rule a thing in the big brother video?
i think because survivor had the buyback right before the merge. so had you won you would automatically be in merge. big brother didn’t do that in cody’s season where cody had to survive f13 and f12 to make the jury
You're easily wrong on Renny being on this list over David & Victoria. Victoria one of the worst players to have ever been on the show where all the other houseguests realized her only used was to just be a pawn to get rid of any othwr player that had an least an once of threat to them (as evident in how she got nominated 10 times). There was nothing Victoria could do that would make her get evicted as every other player realized she was an easy jury beat if she got to final 2 as no one respected her game. While for David you argued that he happened to have been the last non-committee memeber left in the game, u gotta remember they they kept him in for that long cuz of how bad of a player he was in the game. They took out the legit threats like Ian first chance they got & kept him in due to how he gad no shit of being able to stop them. He had no reasons to evwn be on all-stars 2 in the first place. Renny was a serious jury threat to most of that cast & had a strong social ability in the game. It's unlikely Dan, Keesha, & Memphis make it that far without having her on their side & probably none of those 3 would have wanted to take ger to final 2 cuz of how strong she could do with the jury.
Poor Renny doesn't belong here. I'm pretty impressed how far she got for her age. And Sam and Jenn dont belong on here either. But I respect your opinion.
Cody was totally screwed over by that stupid power Paul got. On both his seasons, I thought he was the most over rated player of all time. I am a little biased though, since I can't stand him.
Paul still doesn’t go home even if he doesn’t have the pendant of protection, he has the votes to stay once he flips the power structure on Cody. This is shown when Christmas doesn’t go home that week when she was Cody’s target
Paul's game was overrated moreso in BB18. I actually didn't mind him that season but his 18 game was choppy. His 19 game was very dominant but the players that season were Trash. Great player for sure but yea overrated as a whole
Renny? No she should not be anywhere near this. Hella underrated as a strategist. Cody as #1? He wasn't a good player at all sure, but I think there are way worse players. Fessy? Howie? Frank? Frank's social game in 14 was awful, and was somehow worse in BB18
Why was Julia and Jessica on the honorable mentions. They were great players and Jessica could have won the game if she made it to the finale. But why is Renny on the list she is one of my favorite players of all time.
Derek F was a terrible player but he was never on the jury. I think that little stipulation should keep him off this list. Maybe this video should be titled “worst big brother players post jury”
why count cody as someone who was evicted pre jury and came back but not consider lil from survivor pearl islands on the list when she was voted out pre merge and came back
The thing with Cody… is that if Paul isn’t on the season he probably wins or Jessica wins. The alliance of Cody, Jessica, Elena, Mark, Matt and Raven runs the game. Boot order without Paul probably looks like this: 1- Jessica 2- Cody 3- Raven 4- Mark 5- Elena 6- Kevin 7- Alex 8- Matt 9- Jason 10- Jillian 11- Cameron 12- Dominique 13- Ramses 14- Christmas 15- Josh 16- Megan
i feel you are wrong on 3 of them No9: Renny was not the smartest but she was the first one to flip the game and make a move No4: Jen was terrible player, but wasnt that bad, she had Jameka win POV for her, got far and was willing to work with Daniele/ED No3 DF wasnt the most intelligent or self aware, but was able to ride to the end
I think the top 3 is quite fair, but I would put Big D at the top purely because Big D could not do anything to impact the game. That was true of San as well but give her credit she at least was a swing vote that knew how to survive to make it to Final 5. Big D was so full of himself and he didn’t deserve the support of Kyland or X over the women in the cookout! Cody is a weird figure and I recently decided to unfollow him on Instagram for a few reasons. Mainly that he is a trump supporter and while he has made some valid points on certain issues, his tendency to entertain some toxic rhetoric combined with how he pushes misinformation at times can really be unbearably frustrating. I don’t think all Trump supporters are the worst kind of people, but I am sorry I can only tolerate so much! That being said, when it comes to Cody’s gameplay I agree it was pretty mediocre. While some of the blame can fall on the cast being stupid enough to let Paul run things, Cody did not help himself much in this game. He said some harsh things, screwed up royally with his first and only HOH, and didn’t give people much incentive to align with him when he made it back in the house. Not to mention putting Josh against someone like Ramses, when he easily could have put him next to an equal or stronger threat was a terrible move. Personal feelings aside, I can acknowledge some good points were made here 👍
Is this a player ranking or assessing their games Because i think Cody.N is a better player than Derek but i think Derek played slightly better than cody in their respective seasons
@@devondonato4609 his game sucked. his alliance turned on him immediately and even when he won hoh, he wasted it by going after nicole who he wasn’t even able to get out. he only got into a better position when the six shooters turned on each other and even then he blew up his game during taco tuesday, lost his only ally in sis, and wasted his prankster power
@@devondonato4609 i actually see that as a downside as he wasn’t able to hold his position and played actively poorly. someone who ruins their game is worse than a passive player in my opinion
@@nizzle428 there’s a difference tho. Nick actually did hold consistent control and positioning unlike somebody let’s say frenchie who blew up his game immediately
I JUS DON'T LIKE PEOPLE WHO COMEBACK and victor had shields but I get it BUT I think Natalie and wairua played a good game too but I'm JUST MAD that victoria is not on the list I mean she thinks she played so good she is so clueless and she might sabotage her own game by being clueless I think she say something I'm taking derrick to the win I'm gonna win or something like that AND SHE GOT SAFE BECAUSE SHE WAS A GOAT I would replace Victoria with Renny
My Opinion: Seasons 4-10: Dana Cowboy Howie George Jen Seasons 11-15: Lydia Rachel Kathy Brendan Adam Ashley Joe Jenn Jessie Ginamarie Seasons 16-23: Jocasta Hayden Victoria Meg Julia Bridget Cody Matt Raven Alex Christmas Bayleigh Angie Sam David Derek F.
@@raheemfielder-bey998 I second this. They were Paul puppets but have decent potential as players. Christmas's potential was realized in BB22 and while she's not a great player or even a good player, she is a consistent player who made it to the end with win equity twice.
@@WypsotorNyloff I doubt she beats anyone on that season I think she 100% loses against Tyler, Nicole, Enzo and Cody and I'd lean towards Memphis beating her even tho it's not a guarantee
When they refer to 'making the jury', it always just refers to lasting long enough to go into the jury house. So everyone who is still there when the first person is going into jury house has 'made jury'
How is Azah not included anywhere here. She did nothing all season 23 except (surprisingly) being the last person to be nominated of everyone. What did she do that was successful???
Da’Vonne shouldn’t be an honorable mention just because she was played by Nicole. She had a lot of things right in her games. And Renny wasn’t bad enough to make the list and could have won against anyone except maybe Dan and Keesha. There’s no way she makes the list but I can see reasons for her to be an honorable mention. I agree with Julie that Da’Vonne should keep playing because she’s a contender to win the game on any season Nicole isn’t on imo.
