Big Tech Doesn't Want You Anymore 

you keep bringing up intel in the video, but you don't seem to realize that they are an outlier. intel is facing multiple multi-billion class action lawsuits after KNOWINGLY selling defective garbage for years. their products are suffering failure rates in the 30%-50% range, depending on SKU. dell, HP, lenovo, supermicro, and even the god damn US government are now demanding for heads at intel to roll. intel is expecting this revelation to cost them $25 billion, if not more. they are cutting every cost imaginable to have enough cash on hard to handle recalls, replacements and lawsuits

Now people can't say you don't have some form of humour and a great mic!

I have no idea what you were saying while you were holding that big microphone. Something something... mic stand.

AI will end up being another pile of tech manure. The fanaticism over it by those who don't know the difference between a kilocycle and a motorcycle reminds me of the interweb bubble in the late nineties. Once investors figured out that they were being fleeced, they sold out, locked in their losses and ran for the hills. History often repeats itself.

the Kelly Stamps video @2:06 was a satire, her channel is for comedy. She's not really in tech.

Good Engineers are expensive. 30K worth of childcare is nothing if it means an extra 20% more time from their workday.

This is exactly why. Fancy free food is (or whatever) is shockingly cheap if you buy enough for hundreds of people, and profit-per-employee-hour at many tech companies are some of the highest in the world. Also, unlike other industries like law firms or financial advice, most tech workers never meet a customer and they're most productive when alone, so the odd hours are just as valuable as business hours. So, yeah, it really just comes down to most tech companies wanting to keep their workers next to their computers as long as possible.

What is the benefit here? I have worked factory jobs where I was needed because someone had to turn up. At my desk job I have to be focused, on task, polite to collagues, etc, and I don't think it's possible to do this for 16 hours. After the first six hours people are just sitting around

@@swindel IDK. Maybe they want to just ensure availability in case an emergency need ever arises.

This is also why women are systematically less represented in tech in the upper management layers. By the time you are 40, most women have had children, and you just can't be gone from home for 10 - 16 hours a day when you have children. Someone has to be with them and actually raise them (nannies and childcare can't totally replace the need for parents). That burden disproportionally falls on the mothers--in my opinion not necessarily because of sexism always, but because there are biological reasons that babies and small kids want their mommies more than their dads. As a result tech/corporate jobs become hell for women who are desperately trying to keep up with men and childless employees who can work up to 16 hours a day when pulling a 10 hour day is already pushing it in terms of depriving their children of mom.

Work life balance isn't always better in these companies, but I would say job security is a lot better in down economic times

This is exactly what I do right now. One of two IT workers, me being a software dev and the other being sysadmin, in an oil industry company. I mostly automate data entry and help do warehouse software customization

Okay I know that, one, percent that you're talking about just about and I have begun cashing out before I go on any trips and I don't even own a credit card and also I'm not thrilled in the 2000s I got tricked into signing my name into an account on this app or website actually I don't want an online presence anymore. So yeah long story short, you're right.

Okay I double checked before I started writing and it literally just put the comment in the wrong section. Touche

@@IdkMaybeShawn Yes, that's true, the work-life balance can vary from company to company, but I still think it's a pretty safe statement to make that even the worst of these companies will be better than the best FAANG company in that regard. The reason FAANG pays so high is because they intend to work you to death. I don't have a single friend who's worked in FAANG (as an actual tech person) that wasn't a shell of a human being after, at most, 4 years.

This is the way

Capitalist economy, you can't compete with somebody who works 16 hours (only 8 hours paid) for $32 per hour with no health benefits or paid vacations or retirement benefits. These are international contract workers, who work in a different time zone.

​@@pkmkb007I'm trying to understand your point. Only because this is literally what I do. 16 hour shifts 37 an hour

Bro, I work for a fortune 300 company in the SOC, ALL other IT departments are all Indians besides us and the Threat Vulnerability Management team lol.

Not necessarily. Usually quality in India is pretty low, and I am saying this as an Indian

never spend more than 4 years in a company

And 10 years u been assuming you are a family lmfao ahahaaa

And then the co found out the product they produce with such cheap labor is just that, cheap, unusable, and unmaintainable.

When they phone you back in a year or two after realising the outsourced code doesn't work, don't go back unless they double your current salary

🤯

Oh, that is good. But didn't the tech people create the software for auto-driving trucks? Ooops.

@@walkingstick6655 you’re on RU-vid, may as well watch some real life videos on how that’s working out.

nah learn to weld. There already are autonomous truck( being tested).

@@regenwurm5584don’t robots already weld cars?

@@walkingstick6655ha there are no autonomous driving big rigs...and guess what...there never will be.

Lmao literally, wtf??

I remember a few years ago they were telling kids, "just learn to code and you're set!" This country is falling apart - we need electricians, mechanics, welders and other workers to maintain the infrastructure among other things...

Haha, here’s a thought: Isn’t the tech market just a puppet dancing to the tune of the US dollar? Strip away the dollars, and what’s left-lines of code with no buyers? And if the inevitable market crash happens, wouldn’t it be like pulling the plug on this whole digital circus?

​@@stevengill1736 Indeed, I have been suggesting more of them to look up about getting more people into, Trades of this nature... I've had to paid $100.00 USD, Just for the A.C. guy to just show up at the house 😅😮🎉 Some, are listening 👂 🎉❤

​@stevengill1736 nobody wants to break their backs and the harsh environment of the trades

That is one of the things that pissed me off. We would have a person who specialized in system x for 20 years and they were great at their job. They come in for an interview and people would actually make fun of them because they did not know how to do some stupid LeetCode or some command off the top of their head. After seeing this a few times is when I realized that no one should really take the high tech industry too serious as a career. Have a good time when times are good but be ready to transition out into something more human and decent once you had enough of the toxic environment. Tech is like surfing, you can ride the waves, but you really don't go anywhere.

I feel this comment is from someone over 40.

@@BusinessofGoodWell, obviously you’re not going to go through all that stuff with only three years of work experience in your 20’s. Whether people want to risk feeling it themselves or are willing to listen to the old farts, and learn some history to save some pain, is up to them.

IT only last so long, I'm still gainfully employed in software engineering in my mid 50s but I don't think I'll ever get hired in tech again if I were to lose my job this year. It is really to not have lifestyle inflation due to the salaries paid in IT.

Thanks for sharing :)

My Company just opened office in egypt. Same story there

Or Eastern Europe

But, I live in India. The highest number of unemployed youth exists in India in 2024. In the last 2 years, less hiring and more firing have happened, even India's richest person Ambani fired 42000 workers from his company which is an Indian company, not an MNC. It is tough for freshers to get a job these days in India, forget about good salary.

​​@@enkavsI was wondering about folks in India. Greed is everywhere sadly

​@@yurikendal4868 In India it is borderline slavery with employment bonds and barely minimum wages

I work at a non-software engineering company, and there are so many directors and VPs that have no impact that you could probably double a lot of the productive departments using their salaries. Such is life in the grift machine.

I have only 20 years of experience and I totally agree with that, it was not like that when I started in 2004, it was hard work to actually be a programmer, you couldn't just pretend to be one. No one seems to work nowadays, well, that seems like it ended.

@@luizmonad777 I dont think you got the point OP was trying to make

We need 1/3 as many middle managers and 1.5x the amount of specialists and lower level guys. The more time the new hires spend with specialists the more valuable they become and the specialists naturally age out at the time when the new guys are peaking at their value as well. Nobody ever got through a deadline because of better management, they got through because of bottleneck removal which is really what managers are for

Remember when AMD came out with Bulldozer LOL - cleaned house and found a real CEO that knows talent

Same calculus is what keeps talented people working for the government. Yeah, I could double my wages in private industry, but my cost of living would be much higher and I'd be subject to market cycles like this. I'd rather be overqualified in middle American suburbia with a safe career than surfing a wave of dollar-chasing high achievers. I got my fill of those people in law school...

@@dawnfire82 you're right gravity makes the calculus guys stay. It's those trigonometry guys that jumpship, and projectile motion guys in physics fields.

Missed your chance to boomerang my man.

"stability of a bank" made my day

@@BrunoJennrichlol

Or in other words... bulsh!t jobs and yes! Those numbers should go higher... much, much higher!

Massively agree with this

Nah, they are just hired to do the job.

28% isn't nearly enough.

LOL that's cruel. But I love it!

Wow 🤯

Not sure which of the 34 separate BCBS affiliates that you’re talking about, but the company in question would still be liable since under US law, an act of one their contractors would still be considered an act of the insurer.

Indians will sell the data for millions later on like one trash human being i knew about that used to work at Amazon.

yup right, crowdstrike is from which country??

@@MateDrinker33 the kicker was, on my second attempt to work there, unless I consented in writing to getting the third COVID vaccine, two was not enough, they could not proceed to the final interview lol

it's all for show, but the Google Laundry is actually a good idea. Bring your dirty laundry and Google's Laundry service will handle that for you. 🤣

@@RamonChiNangWong078 No one wants to live at work no matter how well they are paid. We'd all rather work for our family

But everyone got to PRETEND they are green and care for the environment! It was a win win!!! lol

Wow Wssp

​@@samsonsoturian6013Right, but the typical tech worker is a millennial narcissist who doesn't have a family.

Same same!! I'm dying.

Omg, I was looking for comments about the small microphone. Your comment made me look back up and see the giant microphone.. Lol

Genuinely had me laughing.

It will become the new trend for all "personable" rap news reporters.

Nothing beats the dry UK style of comedy.

10 years too late with that comment. Outsourcing has declined massively to india. It's now going to filipinos

yeah and your problem with that ? you dont want immigrants and now you dnt want companies investing in third world coutries then what ?

Private Equity has partners and associates from whom the executives take direction. Executives and workers aren’t so different- both are easily replaceable, but the executive costs more and is at risk of job loss every quarter.

​@@aalhadbapat3489why can't we let them be poor and keep jobs here? Why should I care about Filipino or Indian wellbeing? The root of the issue is shareholder expectations being absurdly high, and inflation which demands higher returns to have gains in their investments.

@@akale2620 idk our team is 75% Indian and some Ukrainians too. We're neck deep in AI and we weren't even a tech company before XD

The real reason stocks went down is because the dividends were indefinitely cut. Massive stock holders fled en masse

It didn`t fell because of that at all... it fell because they cut DIVIDENDS on the stock... you are as clueless as that guy, Patrick Boyle...

Well, the real reason why the stock fell like a rock is because their company restructuring also paused dividends indefinitely, so obviously the stock is much less valuable to hold/in reality one common investment strategy is legacy companies that consistently pay dividends.

Bad business practice hurts women disproportionately

@@edwardk3 How?

As someone who has just been employed for 30 years, nothing you say remotely surprises me. Also, I've had free transunion for like three years at this point thanks to multiple data breaches lol

@@WildZephyr Hahaha, free credit check here too

I... I think I love you.

Imagine if NASA were run by MBAs. What a disaster. Well, that's the reality for most companies, they don't know how to do anything but count beans and lay people off.

Investing in the property market forces this generation to not be able to afford either rent or a mortgage

I´ve half expected the microphones getting perpetually larger to the end of the video after each cut.

**cut to Patrick standing and holding his microphone like Freddie Mercury**

I about lost my lunch when that cut hit 😂😂😂😂

Exactly this

So when Intel tried that their shareprice dropped by 30% and still patt gets paid close to 20million a year. How does that make sense then, huh?

Buddy........ He literally starts off the video by saying Intel "shares plunged" after announcing layoffs. Tech companies have massive multiples because people expect growth. Tech companies want to grow....... Even if just by fake job postings

Most expensive line item is “human being’s salary,” so yeah..

​@serioserkanalname499 Intel's stock isn't falling because of the layoffs, it's because of the current mess with their CPUs.

should be illegal

This is exactly it

@@milehighyt2097It should be but when your congressmen and women can get rich with stock and the president can be besties with tech CEO’s, this is what happens.

​@@milehighyt2097 Learn to compete or learn a trade

Whats next ? Filtered water dispenser?

​@@bh-zj4ytno, Bevi is next (touch screen water dispenser)

🤣

Put the coffee down! Coffee is for closers!

WeWork?

Exactly

Guess what? I'm about to make 5 more job openings for America! Help Wanted: Need to know computers and pay is negotiable; looking to fill 5 positions. Well, my good deed for the day is done. Sad that's all it takes to manipulate the numbers...

Most are fake

They also gotta be looking busy

On the plus side, there are casino greeting jobs available at the Muckleshoot casino.

Meanwhile, relatively recenty, the primary revenue collection arm of the US government (IRS) was almost brought down because they could not upgrade a COBOL-based system that began life in 1962.

@@glensmith491 The biggest regret in my life is that I learned the Basic they taught me in high school, rather than finding a way to learn COBOL. Absolute rafts of money lost to that blind spot…

I agree. This trend is present not only in the tech sector. Zillions of recruiters, 'consulting' firm, placement agency. Did they forget, well you know, people doing actual, real work? Instead, it's been replaced by magical thinking where they formulate some job 'requirement' that is obviously impossible to satisfy, in the hope that there is by, some miracle, a candidate fitting their demands. Remove the middlemen. Start training and re-training employees. Start hiring independent contractors instead of big consulting firms.

The thing which gets you a job with COBOL isn't knowing the language. The language is actually very easy to learn, it's the knowledge of how systems running on COBOL works.

This statement is so true. I see it all the time where a company talks about adopting AI and being an "industry technology leader", but when trying to figure out how it ends up being something to the effect of "ChatGPT exists"

Mic, short for Microphone. Mike is the name of a person. It’s short for Mikerophone.

​@@MarcosElMalo2 he meant mike from breaking bad. He's smaller in real life.

There, fixed. Couldn't edit from phone for some reason.

Still, thumbs up for the Buscemi 30 Rock reference.

fix it back ​@@kenmvilla it was funnier that way, also it caused engagement.

You should pay your advanced education out of your own pocket though. Why always want to somebody else pay for you?

Always? We've never met before, mate. Companies benefit hugely from education and need specific skills, they're the ones getting someone else to pay for what they need

@@RelativeLiberty your education is your problem. Companies can go shop around to find someone else with the skills.

@@CarlosAlvarado04 yes ppl should fund their own (reasonably priced) education, but each company has specific needs that they should train workers on, not expecting them too already know exact inner workings of the company and what they need to do without yet being hired

I'd argue they're outsourcing it more to other companies rather than universities, considering how often they want years of professional, paid experience with a tool/language/process. And a bachelor's degree in computer science (at least one I finished in 2018 at a seemingly good state university) didn't teach things mentioned in job listings. I don't trust a masters to stay up-to-date with industry standards and be worth the cost. Sure, I know the core fundamentals, probably more than someone who took a bootcamp, but sooo much time was spent on forgettable theory and historical trivia. So unless I want to or _can_ find another web dev job that uses TypeScript/Angular (which I _did_ learn at my last job, so, yes, there are... were some jobs that do training... before they laid everyone off... after _deeply_ underpaying us), I'm going to have to teach myself anything else and hope I can market myself enough to make up for the lack of years of professional experience in that tool. I mean, I understand wanting a skilled professional, but jeeeeeez, if we're going to have to train ourselves anyway, these listings should at least say "X years with Y OR a project that proves competence in Y". Just have to apply anyway even if you don't match all the bullet points, but it's disheartening when 100+ people are also applying. :/ And then get hit with tests irrelevant to the day-to-day job that required practice I have to make time for outside of writing cover letters, working on projects to train myself, and reworking my portfolio/site. And that's with 5.5 years of experience. I feel so sorry for those right out of college.

I noted that all the people doing these vlogs were especially diverse and progressive.

Yeah. Not only they weren't really "tech", but it was always a massive rage bait.

How surprising when unproductive people getting fired.

@@Outworlderthis…. Every time I saw one of these videos I wondered if these people worked in tech or just worked at a tech firm. My aunt who actually works in tech is still getting her phone blown up by recruiters trying to get her to jump ship.

Guess all those coders will need to "learn to plumb"... Hehehe

And just as exploitative of workers. Been there, done that. I’ll skip tech altogether.

Small tech is absorbing all the layoffs from big tech, and enjoying the cheap labour.

Fair enough friend

@@pensivelyrebelling It depends on the corp you choose. The best ones are harder to get places for, need sharper skills/portfolio. And many start ups are there to make a difference and offer shares - so if they do well. Can be exciting to work for. It varies a lot by the corp/boss/dept.

If a publicly traded company opts to outsource overseas to reduce expenses, it should begin by outsourcing the CEO position. By saving millions in this manner, the company can maintain the employment of numerous American workers. These employees, in turn, will contribute to the local economy in various ways.

That is better start-up in my country offer collage and class like huh, i know you have money to burn but trying to hire highschooler that are not interested in coding and giving away money hoping they become developer?? No wonder there is so many layoff now.

@@KurosuKirie Not hiring those highschoolers and nurturing them into developers is how you end up with a skills gap. That’s why junior developer roles exist. 🤷‍♂️

@@MonsieurSansHonte it's not company job to pay for their tuition thou it is the job of the parent and themself, I am about hiring junior but hiring completely clueless people with zero knowledge in coding is just stupid

Millennials in 2014 thought they somehow “changed” the office forever with their Twitter campaigns and influencer stories, but it turned out they were too young and naive to realize they were being tricked into living at the office with Razor scooters and coffee bars.

I would say 1 to 1.5 yrs. I'm getting some calls and interview but thr process is super slow. Even you completely nail every round of interview and and everything is smooth. It will take at least 2 months. So not many opportunities in 6 months timeframe

Thanks, I was wondering about that

No sh**

I love her😂

Yes, I guessed as much from the short snippet he showed alone.

he knows bro

I work in manufacturing and the weird bs they do is so illogical to me. Like with my company, theres absolutely times where we are understaffed but its pretty stable on the number of people we have because we are only profitable if we have enough people to do the jobs.

The mass layoffs is due to over spending on AI. With no return on their investment they have to cut jobs. The layoffs will continue and will eventually hit Nvidia because no one will be able to buy their GPU’s at scale.

@@badbot4ever566 Perhaps that influences it is this particular set of layoffs, but what I am trying to say is that this cycle has been happening consistently for ages, I have seen it happen many times industry wide.

@@Lex_Araden and it will continue to happen because they never seem to learn the lesson. I think it would be amazing if some of the engineers who were laid off were to come together and create something or form a new company.

@@badbot4ever566 That's why AI is a bubble right now, the vast majority of the AIs are just LLMs with no pathway to become AGIs. And no, most investors struggled to tell the difference and limitations of LLMs, they're businessmen, not STEM workers.

Upper management is dumb! 25 years in IT and they screw everything up! VP's and up!

Yup Intel allegedly sold defective CPUs for a few years and the potential cost of replacing those decaying integrated circuits to make it right with customers has the potential to be MASSIVE.

Exactly. This is nearly 20 years of mismanagement and not innovating their product.

Or because ai is simply overblown.

True, they see the writing on the wall and know they're going to have to do massive recall and replacement program for all those defective CPUs.

True, the other tech layoffs are just due to a recession so they cut off the profit loss departments first before the free fall of being overpriced.

$9,000? $4.33 per hour? That's not realistic. I'm not sure when that was, but hiring even a junior developer would cost more than $20 per hour now. At $4.33, this person would be fired in a couple of months, and it would be lucky if they didn’t cause significant damage to the company.

​@@AntonyChardshe said offshore, not in the US

@@TheRimBrakeGuy is no such prices in offshore for long time already(9000 per year)

I mean for India it might not be a bad salary.

@@Lynn.-_-. For India, as a median-yes. But for IT, it's very bad. The company I work for pays juniors around $20 minimum, and these resources are not good. Offshore freelancers are now charging at least $15-20 per hour these days.

Thug Life

Biggie Tech Boyle

Mic Check 1 .. 2 ...

Word to your motha

Wrapper?

Came here to say this too.

So............which politician passed this reform?

Exactly! In Germany the same is happening and everyone knows that we have the same tax laws! MERICA

@@KP-kg2ky Donald Trump. Law passed in 2017, went into effect in 2022.

@@laurariccio2490 It was passed by an entire congress. You have no idea who wanted that specific clause and made it happen. Bills are always filled with different wins for different people

My fiance is in tech and a senior programmer asked him what sql is once.

​@@dismurrart6648was going to put a laughing emoji unfortunately it's a bit sad really isn't it. Far too many interviews in tech are held with nobody with real broad knowledge on the panel, the type of understanding required to filter out the bullshit artists.

This. I've never felt threatened even though I'm new to the corporate world because my output is double the next most productive on my team

Especially middle management are some of the most spineless buffoons I have ever seen and yet they keep on failing up the Lader

I call those people "seat fillers"

I find this hard to believe. Looks more like something the nazis spread about the jews or gypsies before they started gassing them.

a few quick bucks now are, in their opinion, more important than keeping those secrets, even though it is stupid.

"My Indian collegues" Such a sweeping generalization. You must be fun at workplace.

@@Apache1970 What else do you expect him to say? As an Indian, I've seen some of these thing myself, from Indians - only Indians.

@@TwistedSoul2002 This generalization is similar to all black people are criminals or all white people are racist. Indians are just the punching bag here. There's always a scapegoat each time. Jews, Blacks, Mexicans someone is always the scapegoat.

Certified Scrum Master isn't a necessity for development?

@@user-bf3pc2qd9sit is a spoof the actual influencer is a pilot / social media influencer not a tech worker she’s satire

Lower class? Don't you mean plebs? 😂

​@@user-bf3pc2qd9s it was a spoof, she does comedic videos

I take a walk yo my living room.every week day at 8:59

Talk about job security

become a girl and one of that prostitution hires^^

I worked in Technology at a Nuclear Medicine Consulting Firm, and twice a year we had to box up our new products, and ship them to the ~700 clients. Because you could not get temp workers to work at a company with "Nuclear" in their name. Some of the tech workers had breakdowns, that they should work in the warehouse for two days a year.

your job is safe dude, congrats, no AI will replace you.

Too bad cleaning crews are hired by the property management company, not the company which occupies the building. This would be a funny joke otherwise.

This will just keep happening

Unless Trump gets elected. Theres litterally no jobs other than engineering/CS that people can flock to this time. Seriously we need massive anti-globalism laws. Nobody should have to deal with the overpopulation problems of another country. Imagine dying in WW2 for a country, only to see its wealth basically offshored to another country.

Yup... I'm not in the same field or region, but we are doing the same thing right now: we're currently assigning a "best value" employee (read: low wage country) to each senior at HQ. The goal is to have them do the same job as us, so that they can save our jobs by doing it a lot cheaper - or to put it more directly: we train our outsourced successors.

Just tell your bosses "when you have yo have me back as a consultant to fix everything again, don't say I didn't warn you."

@@NoManOdysseus LOL litterally my dad. He works as a consultant and he's saying the sheer amount of outsourcing to indians with fake resumes, is already giving him contracts lmfao

Then when people like Bernie Sanders or Trump threatens their bottom line, they either pull strings or call em racist.

@@honkhonk8009 Bernie sanders isn't a threat to anything. All he does is peacock around, make wild claims that don't work in reality, then accept a payoff to buy another mansion and gets out of the way.

Americans build the software then it’s gets outsourced for some add in’s and maintenance and all the people who started it get a big boot thank you.

This is capitalism

​@imhassane This is economics. It is not unique to capitalism. You aren't going to pay for skill you don't need whether you are in a capitalist society or not.

To be fair, there are very few (if any) mega projects requiring huge manpower - at least in the digital realm.

HR is just welfare for those that can't.

No HR department? Sounds like a dream

Military learned this centuries ago. That is why effective units are always small.

Yes, private companies not publicly listed ones which are beholden to the financialization economy with all of its fraudulent practices.

There’s funnier moments

Did 10yrs most of them in outsourcing. Those outsourced jobs must be spilling somewhere halfway through as not much reaching the destination. There’s no fun these days anywhere

I have had a very similar experience.

That was always the kind of career I was more interested in. But I ended up working in test automation for a large bank, which is basically a pure tech job, before I was layed off last year. What do you think I would need to know to make the jump?

We once had a team in place, but they got laid off, and there was an off shore team. But the end client would pay us, as a group, if we formed our own company, and were in business in about a month. I chose NYS, as the place to stage the company, in a remote area of the state. The town put us in court, seriously trying to stop us, as best as I could tell, basically, looking for a crime, I guess, or what was in it for them. They did not want 12, 100K jobs in their area. The internet company could not install internet with an appointment 11 days in the future. The competing company in India, was notified, and we still thought we were in the running, because there is no way, they got internet in India running quicker then us. Nope. The day they were notified, they had internet installed in the early morning hours. They were up and running the next day. (Turns out, the third world country, is the USA, when it comes to installing Internet). We also had one former employee, that was holding out for a higher salary, which was also a stumbling block to putting the team together. Things learned, do not chose to do business in NYS, chose western NJ, at least for a tech company.

If anything, your type of people are those that will be in half that remain, and the half that were in for money didn't perform as well so they are sooner or later laid off. Tech will always be needed.

Big mood. I still remember playing Pokemon blue for the first time in ‘98 as a kid and going “I wanna make things with computers”. Now the soul just feels wrung out of the whole tech sector, not to mention the horror stories I’ve heard from FAANGS.

@@Leonhart_93 That only assumes that the hiring process is good at finding the most effective candidates for the job, or that management can accurately identify who the most valuable members of their workforce. This is demonstrably not true across many industries, not just tech, and it's going to be what kills America's lead in technology.

Yea same here. I litterally dont see myself doing anything else.

@@AlexMax2742 There's also a strong bias against older employees in tech. Having been there myself, I strongly advise any tech worker who doesn't go into management to plan out a second career starting around age 50.

I don't get the bit :( can you explain why it's funny? Sorry if this is dumb. It's my first time watching his content and also I'm autistic

@@catalinavaldivia3730 Patrick explains this around 7:40.

Completely agree! I'm a huge Patrick fan so I'm used to his humour and know to expect something hilariously dry but the cut scene with the massive mic had me in utter stitches!! 😂😂👌

I’m dead. Tell the detectives it was Patrick.

😂

They're all going to the small and midsize tech companies who aren't laying off like Big Tech is. Lotta tech workers are now avoiding working at Big Tech because of this.

@@Gnomezonbacon I am running a small company. Where do I go?

Even though it can be the most boring work on earth people get into it with the idea that they'll be a video game developer. It sits somewhere between pop star and ice cream flavour tester in people's minds.

@@seanreynolds1266boring isn’t accurate at all. It’s more hectic and complicated than most people can begin to understand. Programming in modern times is HARD! People get into it for money. Every company was looking for software people over the last 10 years.

@@pibyteGovernment

I know! That guy has riz. Pure sigma with that mic!

​@@flipdbitskibidi drk drk only in ohio

The more Indians an American company hires the more nepotism and competency crisis there will be. Indians will only ever hire other Indians.

Not going to lie most of AI is absolute garbage they'll end up making a spaghetti code which will go worse and worse as time goes . Though AI will definitely reduce amount of people needed for any work

Then they'll panic and hire anything with a pulse that can code to try and fix it.

​@@gilian2587who will really be hard to find because most of those people would have learned the job by doing the scut work done by AI.

Good luck hopping in after the ass kissers have been working hard for a while all by themselves after realising the grim reality 😂

My guess is that AI code will work for a short while, then it will be completely unmaintainable. The code will be so bad, no one would want to work in it. It may actually be literally impossible to work with. Better to just start over with humans who know how to write maintainable, performant and scalable code. I've been a coder for a long time. I've seen some really bad code from humans and I've seen what some big name WYSIWYG platforms spit out. It's crap. I don't think AI will do much better.

It's a skit chill

​@@tvdasala1701I'm glad you clarified that, because tbh, I didn't catch that. 😅

I caught that. "Lower class". How Charles Dickens.

That was Kelly Stamp doing a parody.

​@@tvdasala1701yo, I'm SO glad you clarified this. I was extra salty about that little gem.

The whole time weve been begging for more hires to work directly on these "ultra important to the future of the company" programs but they hire marketers to lie about what we are behind schedule on because we have no expertise on the real work. Ive been in semiconductor industry for 25 years and its gotten so much worse than it used to be that way. They think it will never happen but keep pushing workers and you'll eventually see a tech worker union.

Exactly. TBH if you're competent and don't work like a robot then you're probably safe. And even if you're not, finding a new job isn't that hard if you're good.

What? That's the story they sell to the market. What happens is the middle managers are told to cut staff and they cut front line staff doing things and shunt the responsibilities onto those who survive And the marketers use their dark arts knowledge of bullshit to convincingly overstate their importance. After all how else do you expect to keep selling for the rest of this year inferior products with a ticking time bomb degradation issue? Engineers with their nasty habit of speaking facts and reality? 😅

I suspect that the number of employees was rapidly inflated to then claim the bonus for each position subsequently outsourced to India. I know for a fact that Indians are paid some $5K, but the company pays $15K per employee, so who is getting the difference? How else would there be so many tech billionaires in India, where 80 sqm flat in Hyderabad costs just $10K to buy?

@@bigbarry8343 That’s another angle.

sadly, i don't think that's quite right. I've been in the industry for a little longer than you but we're at the same basic point....there's always been mediocre workers but now they're known quantities and greener developers meet that 3-5 year mid experience requirement. more senior guys don't care about shining as much. the institutional knowledge lost has already happened and now we're left with the newer "senior" guys that never had a work ethic and just looking to ride this into retirement and young guys that don't mind staying up all night to fix their mistakes. i think the shift is in the team dynamics and management is picking up on it now. they're not demanding more, just listening to performers that have been saying "they're dead weight"

I wish them luck dipping into that endless pool of 10x developers while betting they can pay them peanuts while offshoring the roles. And you wonder why software gets worse almost by the month. Those super star 10x developers don't want your shitty job - lets face it most of the jobs are just that, shit. The brighter ones might as well setup shop for themselves, if they make it then good for them.

5 year hiring manager here, Ethan is correct. There's so much rubbish in the market. Unless you're a "big tech company" you can't afford to hire the trash to boost your numbers. Finding talented Engineers has always been hard. On a particularly bad run, I need to interview 30 candidates in order to find one that can even do the job, let alone impress me.

​@Toleich that's probably said how unprofessional you and your team. I also want to find someone who can do all the work for no money at all. But I meet so many talented developers over the last 10 years and non of them want you shitty legacy job. But majority of work now is shifty legacy maintenance, but you expect rock star, But don't want give him rock star project or at least rock star salary.

@@Scooterzt haha i wasn't going to be as aggressive but, yeah. he's talking like so many hiring managers I've heard that don't realize their projects aren't attractive so the don't get quality candidates in the first place. hiring managers think they need to be impressed but don't realize they need to sell themselves and the project. one of the downsides I've seen to senior developers that's been somewhere too long is, they view their project from where it was and don't realize how much has been molded around them. so they see more poor performers because the good ones can spot the problem projects from a mile away. I'm primarily an ms dev and, when i hear no ci/cd or a bunch of buzzwords coupled with hacky explanations on how they made components work together with no licenses or everything was made in house, I'm not impressed.

Those of us that graduated with bachelor degrees in 2008 are now 38. We and the 2009 grads are probably the youngest that really felt that recession.

I don't get it. Is a job slowdown supposed to be worn as a badge of honor, or a good thing, or something else? Regardless of industry, I don't see why layoffs are supposed to be anything positive for anyone besides people who want their stock to go up. And I don't see why it is necessary for everyone to experience.

And he spoke into one of the elbows of the boom arm stand instead of the mic!

He is a world-class comedian.

Naw, they cut jobs.

They've done some cutting in Romania too. The scale is much smaller, but still. Every month this year I read about another few hundred sent home.

Definitely Romania.

This is the beginning of the end. The jobs will not come back nor will the economy.

"Hope. You can't post that. It ain't edgy enough. Need fear for more clicks."

That, and it gives the impression that the company is growing, which bumps share price. It's sickening.

No it is actually a method of increasing stock value when growth appears, you are hiring

I applied for a company that has been posting the same listing over and over again for the past few months. The platform I applied on said at least 70 people applied for the position, and they somehow haven't filled it.

They would if they could but they usually can’t find that level of talent abroad.

@@dserv”talent” 😂😂

They did it in my company :D

they are changing CEOs like gloves

@@muradm7748 If a publicly traded company opts to outsource overseas to reduce expenses, it should begin by outsourcing the CEO position. By saving millions in this manner, the company can maintain the employment of numerous American workers. These employees, in turn, will contribute to the local economy in various ways.

And surprise surprise, the only ACTUAL tech companies that invent ACTUAL technology, like OpenAI, Tesla, SpaceX, their mysteriously doing well. Google? FAANG? Mysteriously doing bad. Like seriously the NPC class flooding into tech has turned it into a shitshow. Its surprising what actually motivated engineers were able to do.

People forgot, that app they work on, is only one for them. Now, since every service has 'app for that' and usually done badly, peope are being pushed dozens of apps and auth info into devices. App fatque is real.

Exactly

The uncomfortable truth is that some of the tribes in her list actually murdered the other tribes on her list and replaced them, then got replaced by somebody else later on.

@@laertesindeed I was wondering that. Because I know the campus is big - but not that big.

@TizBaz5 Actually yes i do but only because they were virtue signaling over it probably. Everyone/Corporation that does that should have their property confiscated by a native reservation in the aftermath.

@@laertesindeed these two things are completely unrelated, actually, but nice to see that willful ignorance to colonial history--yes including colonial violence--is alive and well

@@stuffinsthegreat What are you even trying to type...? I didn't mention any two things, nor does the fact that some of the tribes in her list murdered the other tribe on the list make any statement whatsoever about colonialism. Quite literally, the land in that region was never held permanently or desired to be held permanently by any tribe that migrated through....and every last one of them were violent. The statement before microsoft meetings was a complete farse that has no understanding of history whatsoever. Assuming that your DEI professor's opinions apply in the past is your ignorance; not ours.

Can't relate. I've always had a grown up programming job rather than a daycare for adults.

💯💯💯

💯. If you've ever worked high enough in a big tech company and see how many mistakes these dumb execs make and never have to be accountable for them, it definitely gives you a bad taste for working at places like that. Even when they totally eff up a company, they still get paid enough to not need to work again. Not even speaking of CEOs specifically, it's usually anyone above Sr Director in general.

Yup. They are laying off people because the stock market rewards them for announcing layoffs. But whether to lay off 1% or 6% or 16% of 60% is the right number -- they have not the slightest clue. What they care about is that at least 6%-7% seems to be a number the stock market likes, regardless of its actual merit. It worked for some other CEO in the industry so that just mimic that behavior mindlessly.

You don't sound like a team player

@@edwardk3 I love my team…. Of 10 people

But how many of them are women?

@@edwardk3 Don't have any idea what this has to do with my comment, but I've hired every single one that has submitted a resume in the past 10 years.

​@@capn_shawn well good! Good for your team. Women should be hired! I'm glad. Why are you doubting me? I would hire any women as well!!!

Mfw no cute Goth gf. :(

What was once Roman is quite extended.

Yep. Those examples are perfectly, 100% comparable. There is no way one could possibly use the term “ignorant pricks” to describe you guys anymore than with this Patrick “genocide is hilarious” Boyle.

Why not both? IT wage shoud allow you to furnish yourself with skills and tools for woodworking.

I started out as an electrician's apprentice. My former electrical coworkers, retired 10 years ago. I'm still trying to work.

Could still do electrician.

Go the carpenter,learn your trade,build your own house,save thousands,grow safe equity.

Yep especially with AI breathing down our necks, the high paying Jobs will soon be be blue collar jobs, simple supply and demand.

This! Housing crisis probably being the most obvious.

I've been saying this for a couple of years now. We're in the "find out" phase of what happens when you f around for 16 years.

@@disguysnyeah can’t believe what we have done with borrowing.

Not only 2008, but the confusion of policy orientation after it. Governments all over the world push too much BS wasteful energy policy.

@@disguysn A major retailer asked their offshore group, to upgrade their SSL, and the offshore group said it would be a year long contract (which was a lie). The company realized, they were losing touch with tech, by relying on their offshore group too much. So, instead they hired 6+ contract workers for the year long contract, to do it in house. I was one. But, 20 minutes into the first day, we found the bug in their software, and then their existing software worked with the SSL upgrade. We decided to let the management know, even though, we just ended our year long contract. But management was ANGRY, because, without people under them, they would make less. So, they let us go after 11 days, but they were all angry, and hired the offshore group again, the one that was trying to scam them for more money. Management needed to manage more people and spend more, even if the work was fake.

I think the reality is the fluff tech jobs got taken out . People who actually have valuable skills will always be in business regardless of recession. It is literally just natural selection

What about newbies trying to break into the market?

And I am an independent CEO consultant to Apple

@@cwt4560 small businesses hire what are called fractional CIOs. Basically a part time CIO since they don't need or can't afford a full time CIO. I improve their information infrastructure and manage their IT as well.

@@cwt4560 Impressive. I'm just a lowly fractional CIO working for small firms. I don't work on Apple products though. You should get better at Enterprise. Tell Tim.

I would. Amazon is a horrible company to work for

At Google, the laundry perk is free to use laundry rooms in each building. In my experience, the biggest users were the housekeeping staff especially on weekends when they and their closest 10 friends and relatives would occupy every machine.

@@dlxmarks Oh I thought he meant Intel. Yea, keeping and maintaining laundry machines onsite is wild. At least the gym is still there. Probably the most underrated perk

I said that as soon as I saw it

@@prettybrwneyez7757 Son, they are only outsourcing low end jobs. You are here crying for low end jobs, which are easily replaceable by someone in Asia at a lower pay. That means you need to skill up instead of looking down on others. Quit complaining Truck driver boy. 😆

⁠@@Apache1970Son, my corporate bootlicking brother in Christ, if you take 3 rungs off a ladder it becomes significantly harder to climb. People skill up best on the job. Never-mind the ethics of outsourcing, who wants to get into that…

@@Apache1970 wait in a couple years when they rack up the experience and knowledge of this in india and china it's only going to get worse

Economics? It's a rap news channel.

Patrick and Ryan George are the two best channels on YT. 😂

What do you mean? That was actually him.

@@magesalmanac6424 ya know what, you’re right, it was very rude of me to assume that from seeing those lifeless eyes.

In Zuck, I trust.😂