Big Twitch Changes 

he’s so talented he can pronounce all those words in the first 5 seconds without moving his mouth ❤️

I was really starting to think my screen was freezing at the start of these mogul mails but no he's just an amazing ventriloquist

Being menacingly stared at by Ludwig as he telepathically communicates with me is pretty pog

so glad lud and the team are fully aware of the video issue but refuse to do anything about it lmao

Technoblade was right when he only streamed on youtube, dude he knew it was the right decision before we all could see it.

so happy that ludwig continues to practice his ventriloquism skills ❤ he's getting so good!

I love how Mogul Mail embraces his ventriloquism

Getting sapnap has got to be one of the best deals stake/kick has done, get them kids gambling young, make it shiny with loot boxes, have them take mom's credit card

I am determined to watch the last 5-10 seconds of every Mogul Mail just so I can witness Lud awkwardly smile and wave while looking really uncomfortable. Highlight of my day tbh

i think sapnap is kind of missing the point. It’s impossible to argue whether kick has more or less hate speech then twitter. _But_ Kick is a small ecosystem with only a few top streamers and the main face of the brand whose been directly supported and propped up by Kick does things like interview (that one nazi guy I forget his name and tbh its not worth remembering) and fosters a transphobic, homophobic, and racist community. Twitter does also support racist people but it’s much larger with lots of independent insular communities and that change is honestly fairly recent, and lots of other types of communities were able to get their own footing before that happened. with kick, since it’s known for being the “based” twitch, the vast majority of its userbase are the kind of people you wouldnt want in ur chat as a normal well adjusted person

Ludwig’s English major allowed him to speak so clearly without even moving his lips, simply incredible. Edit: Guys, I can't believe I've accidentally mistaken the well-known and respectable journalist Mogul Mail for Ludwig, my utmost apologies to whomever this comment had offended.

Letting Charlie drop his contract to have the flexibility of streaming on other sites is a rare Twitch W.

Glad that Tubbo said it, this is what I had been thinking. xqc was mad that he was being called out and not everyone was unanimously supporting his move to kick. Him and some others were calling anybody who said anything jealous... but you can't really deny that taking a 9 figure deal and moving to a platform like that with a young viewer base is bound to get you some side eyes

Like Dan Olsen said, "If you compete with a monolith, the first people to jump on board will be the people who were tossed off the other ship".

i’m a sapnap fan and i was disappointed with his move to kick, as was a lot of his community. i’m interested to see how much of his community will follow him over, because so far, not many have. great video lud!

When will these livestreaming sites understand they have to pick a lane? Kick could just keep on being the "cool, edgy streaming platform," but no, in the pursuit of maximum viewership we're now going to bring a bunch of kids to a site that seems completely unmoderated, as if that isn't an inherently stupid idea

I would definitely agree on Kick not being generally a "safe" place to stream or chat on, considering the downright batshit insane stuff that goes on there, with several incidents related to Adin Ross and xQc, although Kick would definitely be a great starter point for beginner full-time streamers who want to get a good start, although personally I wouldn't stay there for long, and eventually maybe transfer to either Twitch or RU-vid when I have a decently large fanbase that's ok with change

Kick seems to be forcing their way to the top by getting large streamers on their website, and (seemingly) not focusing on anything else. It's giving me Mixer vibes in that way, I'm a bit worried this plan will fail if they keep pushing.

People seem to not understand that Kick will eventually, if it gets popular enough, change how it’s ran to match the cost demand. Mainly, the freedom to say and do whatever you want will slowly evaporate to appease advertisers. This path is unavoidable for any platform that wants to be taken seriously amongst the current giants. In my opinion, strict guidelines when it comes to the protection of marginalized groups and a big incentive to demonize most stupid behavior is the few good these corporate conglomerates get right.

Everyone’s talking about how talented Ludwig is at talking without moving his mouth. But bros so humble, he forgot to mention his wave at the end. In those 10 seconds, soooo much information was communicated. Those last seconds were more meaningful than the first minutes.

I’m not surprised a platform run by a gambling company is an unmoderated lawless cesspool.

Think the toxic and intimidating audience Kick has cultivated stems straight back to its first big users. Adin, Trainwrecks, XQC etc. The behavior of W community streamers and their chats has always been on the edge of, if not entirely, toxicity. I mean Adin is directly linked to Andrew Tate. So the fact that Kick started out with those people and those communities, obviously will set a tone for the platform and who is drawn to it, to either stream or view. If Kick wants to change and be an place for EVERYONE then its going to have to start clamping down on the behavior of some of its founding communities... which I dont see them doing. They're people pleasers, and the last thing they want to to upset their biggest benefactors.

Ya, the only reason I personally haven't even visited kick is due to the stigma surrounding it's community. If kick actually care about moderation and making the website as safe for everyone as possible like they claim they do, they gotta try *way* harder than they do now. I see way too many screenshots from not only Adin's chat, but other streamers as well, and there are walls of hate speech and death threats being slung at multiple minority groups

Just in case anyone is confused about the link between kick and stake. The Alfa Romeo F1 team’s main sponsor is stake but when f1 goes to countries with anti gambling laws the cars stake ads all turn into kick ads. The companies are pretty heavily linked together

Im just happy that you are still on youtube and not on some morally shady streaming website.

So long as Aidan Ross remains the face of Kick, I will not give them the time of day.

you could also mention how sapnap’s mods (who don’t get paid a dime) didn’t know anything about the kick switch and now they are gonna have to work overtime to keep hate speech out of chat

The problem with those “uncensored” services is that no one wants to go on them bc it’s a bad time

How do you not feel ashamed that your fans are constantly talking about murder in your chat, oh wait its adin ross, he can't feel shame.

A saying I’ve seen a few times in my life “You can say ‘all are welcome’ but if wolves and sheep are both welcome you’re only going to get wolves” and kick from an outside perspective seems like a lot of wolves

I think that not only Kick, but also streamers should be responsible for their chat. If you, as a streamer, allow hate speech, you are part of the problem. Not just the platform itself imo.

I feel like having adin ross as a cover guy is only gonna hurt them more and more as time goes on. Like it was bad at the begining, but he was a big streamer who helped them make their point against twitch, so it was fine. But now that they're trying to expand to the minecraftsphere, it's gonna get much worse. Obviously sapnap will moderate his chat himself, but his mod team is unpaid. If he gets raided its not gonna end well. Though id assume kick has its own form of sub only? Id hope. But with some of the streamers on kick it doesnt fill me with hope. I dont watch streams anymore, only watched one streamer and hes gone now, so doesnt effect me either way, but its a massive industry and i hope this will get better

As a viewer, I enjoy watching streams on yt SOOOOOO much better.

Kick not having done enough to moderate chats is an understatement, it's not just the chats, it's the creators like Adin themselves who are openly racist and bigoted and show gambling or p*rn on stream, while being promoted as the faces of the platform

I think the problem with Kick isn't just that they are not good enough at making creators moderate their chats, etc, but that being unmoderated is how they sold themselves as a platform. They are actively recruiting creators banned elsewhere for unhinged stuff and have profiled themselves the entire time as an absolute free speech platform. The first thing that happened when Kick went live was that people went into chats and spammed the N-word over and over. The fact that people are now trying to pretend this is not the case because Kick pays them tons of money from all the gambling addicts they've bled dry, really doesn't change the fact that this is who they have always tried to be. They've never wanted moderation and they don't want to change.

Specifically on sapnaps community its clearly not safe for them, adin ross for instance did a foul call out towards them and there has been one or two terrible chat messages in sapnaps chat considering hes only streamed twice. me personally would love to support him on kick since its something new and exciting but when it runs the risk of hate speech being shoved down your throat it can feel sickening even opening the app. I hope kick can fix it in the long run bc its clear their AI moderation isn't working all too well but i doubt i can see a change any time soon.

There should be other options for streaming buuut rumble and kick are so sketchy. I honestly give a sideeye to any creators that move there, especially the ones that are popular with kids. We need reputable places

I honestly feel like this kick thing isn’t gonna go well. It’s sad that creators that have younger audiences like for example sapnap is basically promoting kick by switching. I think kick really needs to think about safety and filters before handing out these contracts to people with younger audiences.

I just assume anyone who signs with kick is the worst kind of person and is bigoted in a dozen different ways If the most wholesome person ever signed with them im just going to assume that there going to be taken a new edgier approach

That Kick leader had a terrible response to Tubbo. Thats the LAST type of response you want to have for such a serious issue. Basically enforcing peoples beliefs that Kick isn't a safe place and probably never will be.

yall dont get it, Ludwig is just making sure we're aware of our bandwidth speed and making sure we check it once in a while

Twitter situation may have gotten worse over the last few months, but i think you can still find your safe space pretty easily, which is not the case with Kick.

0:01 i thought my computer gone to blue screen lol.

the way that none of these comments are talking about the actual video but just talking about his ventriloquism

The problem with youtube livestreaming, at least for me, is that it's ridiculously hard to know when someone is live if you don't have notifications on, which I'm pretty sure most people don't. I only ever know if someone is live if it shows up on my main page whenever I open youtube or, if for some reason, I look at the tiny little spot where the subscriptions list sits on and they just so happen to be on the 7 first places which is also placed in alphabetical order. It is so difficult to find out who's live on youtube that I still don't know how to search for livestreams here except typing "LIVE" on the damn search bar. Even the EXPLORE section has "Trending", "Music", "Sports", "Gaming" and "Movies". All this to say that, if there's a place in youtube to let us search only livestreams in a manner that doesn't give me an aneurysm faster than I get the results I want, I have yet to find it.

Amazon bought Twitch for 270 million. Kick paying more than 1/3rd of that to a creator, irrespective of their size should be seen as a waste of investor funds(something these startups are known for)

Great to know Mogul Mail is back in the ventriloquism scene!

There is also a 4th group of people on Kick which are the people who just want to stream TV series or anime but will get flagged if they do it on YT or Twitch

Yo Lud you should really make a video on how you would improve the livestreaming experience on RU-vid. I personally really like using RU-vid as a all in one app I do watch some RU-vid streams but I would like to see the platform grow more in the stream side

People moving to kick for a simple reason: They think Kick is gonna die like Mixer so they're ok going there for a year or two, get the massive bag of cash and coming back to twitch once it close.

I knew the ltt drama was big but I didn't expect to reach a point where I would see it on the side of a video from Mogul Mail on twitter trending.

Im still a bit sus of Kick for a multitude of reasons, but they sure have made their mark on the streaming sphere and will be interesting to see where the platform will be in one or two years

9:49 This feels bad actually. If a *founder's best response to criticism is whataboutism* then you know to limit your expectations in fixing said criticisms.

The silence at the end as Lud waves for like 10 seconds

Tubbo is such a good kid 😭😭

They are willing to spend hundreds of millions of dollars because they want the next generations gambling money.

Only a true american like Ludwig could say "Go for your dream even it means being a little evil!" and "it's cool if millionaires get money if they do cool shit with it!"

in my opinion it'd be weird to sign up to kick right now as any creator, with the 95/5 splits and 0 ads the platform is insustainable and alongside it's horrible reputation (partially due to the major streamers they have signed being... not so cool), it just seems really unappealing. Eventually they will change the platform to bring in money and when those changes happen and if the image has improved then MAYBE I'd consider it a good streaming platform to consider. That is just a random person's take though

Kicks chat reminds me of early 2010s Internet

You dont know how much i like the awkward goodbyes of your videos

its crazy to me that ludwig talks about the hate speech in adin's chat, but not about the awful things that adin ross has said himself.

We will always be moist no matter where Charlie streams

"We want people to think of us when they think of streaming" dont worry, we do but its not in a good way. The fact they didnt ban a guy that SA a woman on stream, it doesnt look good for PR

Helluva way to get the most rewatched part to be the first 5 seconds. Mogul Moves.

i like when he says ventriloquism he immediately drops the ventriloquism, this man can do anything

Honestly at this point I fully believe Kick is going to become an adult only streaming service with little moderation. Hopefully it works out for the best though

8:50 tubbo based view

Honestly the reason why I see Sapnap moved to Kick is because he wishes to move away from a large majority of his fan base and wants to be accepted by a more mature audience where gambling, s3x, and 18+ topics can be very openly talked about without the minor crowd dragging him through the mud on twitter every time. He wants to move away from the Minecraft streamer he grew famous for and be accepted by a call of duty type lobby. And honestly I don't think his fan base is even going to follow him over to kick because of the moderation problems. They're going to get hate from someone in the chat and Sapnap isn't going to defend the person cause he wants them gone, he's just not going to say it. So once he's forgotten from his minecraft days he gets what he wants which is a more mature fanbase.

Dude I love that trick where he doesn't move in the beginning of his videos! Never gets old

Appreciate the long farewell in the end.

I forgot how braindead ludwigs fanbase is about Kick before clicking in this video. Dear god the comments😢 congrats sapnap

I think part of the problem is the fact that the communities on kick are more unhinged and don't give a damn about what they're saying, I feel that IF they manage to get alot more family friendly content creators, while not perfect, however I do think that side would get watered down alot more and be less noticable, I do think there needs to be more moderation, I get it's meant to be an open website however where's the limit

Difference between kick and Twitter is that if things get bad on Twitter you can simply turn notifs off, even make it so that only people you follow or certain people can reply to your post, while kick is a live-streaming platform, so it is LIVE and spam/targeted harassment is just easier to do and bombard people with in that environment

Excellent ventriloquism bit in the intro, just gotta say.

Ludwig must master the Gothamchess opening stare to avoid the freeze frames

honestly as good as kick could be its just not sustainable in the long run even if they decide to bring in advertisers later on they will see a lot of the problematic creators that got banned from twitch on there and be hesitant to help out plus as you pointed out they are bleeding money they arent making any money and are currently only funded by a gambling site that has very close connections to the person who owns kick at the end of the day kick is just a revenge product because the owner got yeeted from twitch

These changes seem to be great for smaller streamers, and I think with time Kick will become less bigoted. That being said it does seem to be a great option for aspiring streamers. I was pondering that even with these advantages Kick will offer for small streamers, how does the all-mighty Twitch Prime compare to all of it? Would it still be more advantageous to try and make it on Twitch because of that juicy Prime money? I doubt Kick will have a product like that any time soon... Additionally, Kicks moderation is questionable, but to me, that seems to be a problem that is solved with time.

I love tubbo man what a guy

It’d be funny if the ventriloquism powers get progressively better with each video and soon the whole video is just gonna be a complete stillframe

Literally all RU-vid has to do is make 3 separate tabs (Shorts, Videos, and Streaming).. you click on what you're trying to watch, and it takes you to that page/window that's set up specifically for that view type. Guess that's to big of a big brain idea though 😂

Ah yeah Twitch changes, always something nice (Clueless)

Stake really said "yall wont let me advertise? ill make the company to advertise on instead" and built and entire, fairly successful, platform. Even if I dont care about kick I respect the game.

As a part of the lgbtq+ community I feel unsafe if I were to "get that bag" no matter how much I'd love to, I am scared of the side. Frankly I don't feel safe being on a website allowing people banned on other website to be allowed to exist on kick.

I love when I hear Ludwig's disembodied voice in my head

I remember when Ludwig said that kick was gonna fail in a year, he’s so bad at predicting anything that his takes aren’t worth listening to.

Kick seems like a baseball team to these billionaires. It's a toy for them and don't care if they lose money

I'm a girl. Opened Kick once to see what it was about. Clicked a large livestream. Everyone in the comments saying all women should die... yeah... until things change there I think I'll stick with yt and twitch lol

As a small artist who wants to stream but is also part of a minority group- I really hope that new streamer has a good time on kick and their chat isn’t infiltrated by hateful users because honestly twitch needs competition and if Kik can get their moderation under control I would probably consider streaming there as well just because RU-vid doesn’t really serve the streamers they do have as well as they could

I think that Kick is doing the "michael scott paper company" strategy

Ngl, i thought my phone was bugged, thanks for the mini heart attack lol

sapnap’s goal is supposedly to make positive changes to the platform, we’ll have to see if he manages it or really just is in it for the millions

I watched an Adin Ross Kick stream out of curiosity and chat was truly unhinged. Lots of open racism/sexism/homophobia in chat

It is interesting how you acknowledge that Kick is in it's growing state where they only care about increasing their users, and then compliment them on implementing features that would increase their reputation. Just because they are doing something to dissociate themselves from gambling doesn't mean they aren't going to get rid of all of that later, once there are enough users for them. The ultimate way for Kick to make money is through advertising Stake, no matter what they are doing now, that's what will always be the end goal. Stake, as far as I know, is an illegal gambling service that allegedly murdered people and threatened politicians and others with violence to keep their cartel going. It's entire business comes from scamming people out of their money and abusing their addiction, and they especially seem to cater to minors. Their business model is to harm people, which they are doing both mentally and physically completely knowingly. That's where the money to run Kick comes from, that's where the audience from Kick is expected to go by its design. It's not the same as Twitch and Amazon no matter how you try to spin it. And just because Nestle is a corporation that does evil to achieve it's goals doesn't mean that it's the same as an illegal gambling cartel. Evils exist on a spectrum, the goal of Nestle, Amazon or any other legal corporation isn't to harm people, they're goal is to make money legally, which usually means they are at least somewhat restricted in how much harm they can do. Stake is not restricted by legality, they also only care about money, but the way they make money is by knowingly harming their customers and abusing their addiction, not by creating worthwhile product or service. If you advertise Amazon, the worst that could happen to your viewers is that they'll buy something that they don't necessarily need. If you advertise Stake, I don't even want to describe the worst that could happen to members of you audience.

13:10 Legends says he still waving till this day

13:10 The moment when you have to many tabs open and you can't find the stop recording button. 😆

When Adin Ross kept talking about how the website “has no rules” I knew it would be a negative cesspool of chaos. I think they have the potential to be better than twitch in every way like moderation, pay, morally/ethically, growth, etc. but they need to do the right stuff.

Sapnap's community acting like it's the end of the world, because he's streaming at Kick, really shows how chronically online & parasocial the poogers community is, mfs really think they're entitled to Sapnap's entire life & whatnot.

I appreciate the embracing of the ventriloquism meme

I really loved when you put jesus switching to youtube on your thumbnail but didn't even mention it post editing, that was really educational and insightful🥰🥰🥰

These mad lads made the word “kick” culturally relevant again after “Kik” died