Big Vintage HP Hardware Haul

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@trptmbalmer Год назад

I'm glad that between my brother and I, all of this stuff arrived intact! Hopefully the 9121 can be resurrected and brought back into service so you can make use of all of that software you've mentioned. As for the plasma displays, they're incredibly versatile, but the protocol to talk to them is more than a little odd. You mentioned pinball displays, but these are roughly double the resolution of a pinball DMD. The driver board that my Dad built to drive the displays was pretty basic and more or less bit-banged the outputs to put text on the screen, among other things.

@woldemunster9244 Год назад

THIS! PLZ PIN & UPD007! GG

@MonkeyUnit Год назад

On behalf of all nerds of Earth, thank you for donating this equipment to this channel!

@denox420 Год назад

Crazy finding another person from Springfield xD

@user-fu8pf8ww5u Год назад

@@denox420the real original springfield, is Springfield Massachusetts home of the basketball hall of shame.. I mean fame.

@OursK85 Год назад

@@denox420Well there's also Jessies girl. :D

@jimiphillips1170 Год назад

The plotter would be awesome for a battleship game

@derek8564 Год назад

look at the smile on his face as he brings in the boxes. Like its his birthday or something 😁

@ANSWERTHECALLOFJESUSCHRIST Год назад

Yup. He is so happy! 😁

@T3hBeowulf Год назад

That 6-pen plotter brings back memories. My high school drafting class used one to plot our assignments and I loved watching the drawings unfold on the paper, particularly for me, since I spent time ensuring sections were color-coded to make visualizing the parts easier. Exciting Stuff!

@MarkyShaw Год назад

Mesmerizing watching that beautiful plotter.

@cheddar500 Год назад

Your enthusiasm is contagious, fun to watch

@sjftech Год назад

Shelby slowing down time just after the intro! 😂

@RetroTinkerer Год назад

Just a little less than 35 minutes of vintage HP equipment? I'm all in!

@DJSubAir Год назад

Your joy and happiness are infectious when you get something either working or to work on. I very much appreciate these videos. Have a great day!

@andykillsu Год назад

That plotter should be able to plot 11x17 paper, which would make sense as 11x17 is mostly used for engineering drawings, as a D size sheet scales down nicely on it. Would be cool to make drawing in AutoCAD and being able to print them out in 11x17.

@ChrispyNut Год назад

Plotters are awesome. Worked with an A0 one during apprenticeship for structural and civil engineering at the end of the 90s. So cool seeing it whizz around, moving paper up and down, with sub-millimetre precision.

@InssiAjaton Год назад

This just hit me in a special way -- Maybe I need to finally undertake the revival of my HP 87 set? Dual floppy 5.25". One Bering box with 5 MB hard disk & an 8" floppy. One letter size (A) plotter. One B size plotter. Serial port module. [One of the two plotters is serial, the other one HP-IB]. The problems are multiple. The 87 has no doubt leaky or outright blown capacitors. The hard disk did not boot the last time I tried (before the '87 capacitor problem). And plotter pens were rejected for whatever reason. Moreover, they of course are dry by now. But so fond memories...

@ElMarcoh Год назад

0:38 slow mo turning was perfect

@psergiu Год назад

The HP7475A' geneva wheel sprocket that moves the pen carousel, if original, WILL shatter into small pieces. There's a replacement 3d printed model on thingverse - order-it 3d printed from ASA plastic with 100% infill. You will need to use some small files to enlarge the hub hole as the one in the 3d model is a bit too small.

@OneSmallStepWeb Год назад

I am here for this content. But I'm thinking, have I just watched the geekiest unboxing on the internet. I live your enthusiasm. Love it. X

@richshealer3755 Год назад

I worked for an HP reseller in the 80's. I used the 7475A plotter to draw maps for games like Zork using HP Drawing gallery. I forgot about the special interfaces on the HP 86A. The 9121 was the first time I used a 3.5" disk. It did not have an autoshutter for the disk. You had to manauly slide the cover on the disk. There was no spring. The newer disks had a catch if you slid the cover on a newer disk.

@Anachronda Год назад

plotting sideways on an 8 1/2x11 sheet probably means it can also plot on an 11x17 one. back when i was doing that sort of thing for a living, we worked primarily on 11x17 sheets; a plotter that could do that would have been nice.

@PeterSmith-rv3jz Год назад

Yes, I've used these kinds of plotters. They can print on long paper

@jeraldjoyce2995 Год назад

gosh, the plotter is just so much fun! I would love to see you feature it in future programs and videos.

@kaitlyn__L 11 месяцев назад

An alternative to your version of 5x5 is one where the winn condition still only requires 3, even in a grid of 5. It makes it like multiple simultaneous overlapping games and makes cornering territory even more important. That works even with bigger numbers too, but gets more Go-like as you get bigger.

@RetroTinkerer Год назад

Wow, what a nostalgia trip to my childhood watching that HP plotter, they use to had one of these at my mom job in Venezuela in the 80s when I was just a child, it was mesmerizing watching that thing grab the color pens and dance along the paper and do all these finely detailed bar and pie charts.

@thebiggerbyte5991 Год назад

An excellent haul! I do love vintage HP gear - I blame CuriousMarc! ;) I agree completely about shipping CRTs face down. As long as there is some padding to protect the face the chances of survival are much greater.

@rockaholictom Год назад

I just got a Smith Corona 380 XL. It's perfect except for one broken clip but I get to fix that so I'm super happy! Thanks for the videos!!

@psychoacer Год назад

That opening slow motion spin was breath taking

@menhirmike Год назад

That Plotter is a thing of beauty!

@stevenjlovelace Год назад

You could make Connect Four by programming it to add each X/O to the bottom-most free space in each column.

@TrolleyMC Год назад

real ones remember when this channel was called AkBKukU.

@epicswag5509 Год назад

the slow motion turn in the beginning is so good lol

@darrenjkendall Год назад

Great video, be nice to see you doing videos down the line into HP PA RISC and their Unix.

@MichaelNelson1965 Год назад

I could rhapsodize about my HP-86A endlessly. Forty years ago I learned how to program on it, first the BASIC, then the native Assembly (very different), and finally 8080 Assembly (I got the add-on Z80 module). Though it spends most of its time tucked away these days, I had it out about a year ago and not only did the hardware still work, but all the games and what not I wrote were still readable on the floppies (5.25"). I only have the dot matrix printer; never got hold of a plotter. A few years later when I was writing HP laser drivers for my company, I realized that the that old dot matrix printer used a primitive form of PCL. Ah. You never forget your first love.

@AnalogX64 Год назад

I took drafting in high school, and we did the drawings and a drafting table with pencils and rulers the following semester; I no longer needed the credit for the course; they had replaced the tables with Atari STs and CAD software, and I missed it by 1 year. 😁

@nickstefanisko Год назад

That plotter can take B size (11x17in) paper.

@freednighthawk Год назад

On the keycap stems. Try printing them, or rather, have them printed, in an ABS-like resin. I'd offer to do it, but my 3d printer sucks.

@EJ160E 25 дней назад

Look @ that grin in the beginning….deisidaemonisterous peppo!!! 😂

@EJ160E 25 дней назад

Yes, it is the grimace to hold in a fart? 😢

@BearMeat4Dinner Год назад

Home Depot boxes says it all!!❤lol

@Colaholiker Год назад

People old enough to remember unpacking new CRT monitors will remember that they were usually packed screen down... 😅 I remember.

@_droid Год назад

Love seeing the plotter actually work! As a kid I wanted one so bad but didn't have enough money. :)

@DEMENTO01 Год назад

playing tic tac toe in a plotter is the nerdiest and coolest thing I've ever seen, winning must feel a thousand times more satisfying lol

@nielsroetert Год назад

Awesome video, didn't even know this computer model existed, love the plotter action.

@denox420 Год назад

Funny seeing this today after visiting family yesterday in Springfield Ohio xD. Wonder if I've ever ran into James.

@qs3850 Год назад

Great video! What a great way to end my evening!

@LoriH2O Год назад

I've had two CRTs shipped to me. One was in the original box and etc. So it was very well supported and survived the trip without any issue. The other was... just stuck in a box and got to me entirely destroyed. (Tube itself was fine, but the plastic housing was shattered to bits. Real shame because it's quite a nice monitor too)

@arcanescroll Год назад

I once had a Commodore 2002 monitor shipped to me from ebay half way across the country. The packing materials consisted of some newspaper and a couple pieces of bubble wrap tossed in. Somehow it managed to survive the trip in great condition, and I have no idea how.

@JoeBurnett Год назад

It’s amazing! The key colors and documentation are all reminiscent of what was used for my HP-41CV calculator.

@ajslim79 Год назад

well.. "i didn't know how big it was" .. "it's put in here at an angle" .. "it's enormous" .. "wow!" "look at this glorious monster" "oh my gosh"

@gorak9000 Год назад

THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!!!!

@JenniferinIllinois Год назад

Listening to that plotter printing the tic-tac-toe. Absolutely love it!!!

@w9gb Год назад

I MAY have the HP 13272A floppy drive which the same as the more common 9130A (for HP 86A); but it came with an interface for connecting to HP terminals (I don’t have cables). 13272A floppy had a 40-pin card edge connector (as I remember), used standard TM-100 5.25 inside, but controller card may have been different.

@idahofur Год назад

Besides hearing a leak song in my head. That monitor is a NEC monitor with HP name on it. I had one with an Apple II plus. Very sharp monitor.

@xrstopherpopp120 11 месяцев назад

i haven't the foggiest idea what the hell is going on in most of these videos, and yet, here I am chomping at the bit to see what next has arrived!

@richardestes6499 Год назад

Springfield is near my hometown! :D

@HKT-4300 Год назад

Your excitement is infectious man!! hahah

@jeromethiel4323 Год назад

You don't need an HP, you WANT and HP. ^-^

@ajslim79 Год назад

my "luck" with shipping monitors so far: 2 CRTs arrived fine .. 2 LCDs got wrecked :D

@gorak9000 Год назад

Yeah, all monitors were shipped around originally - it really wasn't an issue. I don't remember if they shipped them screen side down, or in the regular orientation though - I think I seem to recall they were shipped screen side down. Also, all tube monitors are old now, so the plastic is a lot more brittle than it was originally. I doubt packages are handled much differently than they were before - to the shipping monkeys, they're just boxes - they get tossed around and drop kicked, fall off conveyor belts, driven over by trucks, and who knows what along the journey. I've shipped quite a few LCD monitors in the last few years, and never had an issue. It really depends on the packaging. Extra cardboard, bubble wrap, and much sturdier boxes (compared to crappy HD or Lowes boxes like in this video, or crappy u-haul boxes that a lot of people like to use ) are your friends. Even some fruit and vegetable boxes you can get for free at the grocery store are sturdier than the "box store" boxes :)

@kouwes4686 Год назад

We had the same plotter in our office back in 1987/88. It‘s not meant for plotting sideways but for the DIN A3 format - which is about 11 x 17“, like @andykillsu says. Fun little machine, I remember it was pretty loud hammering on the paper and the rattling turret.

@souta95 Год назад

Fun stuff! I took am diving into an HP computer restoration. It's a prototype laptop that has a Compaq BIOS screen (from right after HP bought out Compaq). Finding drivers has been a bit of a nightmare. I had to manually edit the inf file for the wireless card (802.11b compliant), and am struggling to find Windows XP drivers for the video chip. It's a Pentium 4-M laptop, so Windows XP should be right at home.

@UpLateGeek Год назад

I've had two CRTs shipped to me, but only one actually survived. The first one was shipped in normal orientation and was just fine because it was well wrapped in bubble wrap and foam packing. I guess 12" tubes are more resilient. The second was shipped tube down, buuuut unfortunately the packing was just packing peanuts. No bubble wrap, no foam, nothing to keep it from shifting in transit as the packing peanuts are squished. I pulled it out of box and heard the distinct tinkling sound of broken glass inside the case. The neck was snapped cleanly off. Sadly that monitor was a genuine IBM 14" VGA model that would've gone perfectly with my PS/2 machines. I actually only paid $1 Aussie dollary doo for it, but $70 shipping, which still would've been an amazing deal if it arrived intact. I did eventually get an identical model with an intact tube but dead electronics, but there were issues that I found during reassembly, and I haven't had the guts to try powering it on.

@gorak9000 Год назад

I hope you got a refund from the seller for the one that was destroyed. It's amazing that people throw loose heavy stuff in a flimsy box and expect it to arrive in one piece. It's almost like most people are really dumb or something...

@abowman89 Год назад

👍 receive my offering and keep up the awesome videos.

@TefenCa Год назад

Thanks for posting this!

@douro20 Год назад

There is a plotter related to the 7475A called the ColorPro which has no carousel motor- it actually uses the paper feed motor to turn the pen carousel. It also has fixed paper size.

@GeorgesChannel Год назад

Great video! Love the Tic-Tac-Toe programming and the plotter action! Thanks for sharing!

@2009numan Год назад

the blue connectors on the back of the 86a looked like standard external scsi connectors

@arcanescroll Год назад

I always find it amusing that after all these decades we still use primarily GPIB (the standard formerly known as HPIB) for nearly all our test equipment. Hey, if it ain't broke, why change it? XD

@gorak9000 Год назад

I think you mean GPIB - general purpose instrument bus. And a lot of newer equipment did away with GPIB now - now it's LXI over USB or Ethernet primarily. Same idea though, a general purpose command language that's interoperable across multiple manufacturers, but on a more modern physical layer.

@arcanescroll Год назад

@@gorak9000 yep, I do, slip of my few undamaged brain cells. A lot of our equipment is like 90's and early 2000's era stuff. It's okay for what we do, and honestly GPIB works just fine for most uses.

@gorak9000 Год назад

@@arcanescroll GPIB is great if you use it with a Prologix interface that provides you a straight serial interface that's easy to work with. I absolutely abhor installing the bloated and stupid NI drivers to talk to "real" GPIB interfaces. Whomever came up with that bloated and overly complicated BS at NI should be drawn and quartered.

@dan3a Год назад

Wonder if printing those stems in sintered nylon (most probably through a 3D printin service) would be a good solution.

@NorthWay_no Год назад

Not an HP fan as such, but I'm still looking for a keyboard (I used one such on 7000 series workstations) of the rubber/eraser-feel like keytop type. They felt bad when I first started using them, but after a while you wouldn't want to switch them for anything. The softness of the keys made for some very high friction so they wiggled around when you moved your fingertips a little. I have a similar keyboard but the keytops are hard smooth plastic (unless they have morphed as a function of time?) and it is a standard PS/2 connector/protocol.

@drpc97 Год назад

i remember seeing that hardware about 20 years ago at my old computer shop. we recycled old computers and mainframes.. it was a fun time

@Okurka. Год назад

Recycled or destroyed?

@mnoxman Год назад

Curious Mark featured something called EBTKS (everything but the kitchen sink). Not sure if it is compatible but you may wan't to look in to it.

@StitchJones Год назад

Amazing!!!!!!

@rich_in_paradise Год назад

Man, pen plotters are so cool..

@NielsPaul Год назад

So the Connells were singing about an HP plotter? The more you know.

@jefersonfischer Год назад

ohhh unboxing cool stuff !!!

@livefreeprintguns Год назад

I bought a 21" Sun Microsystems CRT on eBay back in the day (one of my first purchases) but it literally arrived in pieces and I never got to use it. 😢

@EverythingIsBrokenGarage Год назад

Anymore plotters and you will end up like Steve at Mac84 with a basement built out of Laser Writers, well in your case it will be plotters haha 😅

@danthompsett2894 Год назад

was fun seeing that plotter do its thing surprisingly fast and accurate for something that old, i remmember dot matrix printers being painfully slow.

@LegacyIvyTerascale Год назад

Car Wizard can confirm that plastic gets more and more fragile as it gets older

@zax71 Год назад

4d naughts and crosses on a plotter would be really cool

@thedude_-__-_7528 10 месяцев назад

That's some really cool stuff! I'd love to find an HP 150 touchscreen computer, I had one growing up that I got at an estate sale for $10 or $15. I ended up selling it in a rummage sale when I was 18 which I very much regret, especially since it was in really good cosmetic condition, the only issue was that none of the discs worked any more. So if anybody knows where I might find one for a reasonable price let me know!

@jeromethiel4323 Год назад

HP plotters were the shit, back in the day. Always liked them.

@systemchris Год назад

What a lovely machine! About as compact as it could be then

@mistie710 Год назад

You obviously don't remember "Connect 4".

@cloudy_shane Год назад

So, you've built a time machine and become an HP ambassador 😅

@LaserFur Год назад

I have a book on HPGL HP codes from back in that era.

@Ice_Karma Год назад

Never having dealt with HP gear of any sort, how bad is trying to keep all the four- and five-digit model/product numbers straight?

@vechzdavion Год назад

Connect 4 and battle ship are the only games that come to mind for modifications of this program

@rphntw1n Год назад

We might need a retrobright episode with all this 😂

@tarstarkusz Год назад

In general, however much padding and boxing you think you should have, double it at least. If you ever ship a CRT, it's face down with a ton of padding in a box (twice as much as you think you need), which that box should be inside a larger box with at least 2" of padding between the two boxes. It's gonna cost a fortune, but most of the time, if you do it any other way, it WILL NOT SURVIVE.

@lo1bo2 Год назад

If you're a buyer within the same region of the country, might as well go on a road trip, pick it up, and research interesting things to see along the way.

@tarstarkusz Год назад

@@lo1bo2 Another youtuber I follow just uploaded a video today of a test TV getting destroyed being mailed to him. It wasn't just the CRT that got damaged either. It was the case of the equipment. It got broken into a bunch of pieces.

@gorak9000 Год назад

A lot of it comes down to the boxes. The boxes from HD / Lowes / u-haul that a lot of amateur people use are absolute flimsy garbage. You need to find thicker boxes that are much stronger for larger / heavier items.

@uomoartificiale Год назад

Great video! I have question partially related to the computer. You seem to use a replacement pen in the hp plotter. What is it and where I can buy one? Keep up the good work!

@jackalneck Год назад

Just a PSA - Lowe's and Home Depot's boxes are moving boxes, not shipping boxes. For anyone out there looking to ship vintage tech or other precious items, use shipping boxes!

@gabrielleeliseo6062 Год назад

I worked as a freight inspector for a number of years. I can say with a high degree of confidence that those boxes are fine and even better than most of the boxes I've seen shipped. Just make sure you have it well padded and well sealed. Don't use bargain bin packing tape. Also, labeling something as fragile makes no difference in how it's handled by most package handlers. So, be sure you pack the object like the egg drop project you did in high school. :)

@JBEEUD Год назад

Yeah, so I'm the one who sent those items. The Home Depot boxes specifically are double wall corrugated boxes. Very much heavy-duty shipping boxes. And wobble those boxes were thinner walled, that's why I added extra packaging to those to make sure that everything was very well cushion.

@gorak9000 Год назад

Yeah, HD / Lowes / u-haul boxes are TERRIBLE. Go to your nearest cardboard recycling bin - you'll no doubt find much better boxes there for free - just add tape! I wouldn't even use HD / Lowes boxes for moving - they're pretty crap and thin and have no structural integrity to them.

@herdware Год назад

And here I was hoping it would be something that would run Domain/OS, oh well. :) EDIT: Only twice I've risked buying a CRT and getting it shipped. The first was a C= 1902 which arrived whole buy pure luck since it was shipped almost w/o any packaging, the second was a really cheap VT320 that was really rough. Unsure if the plastic snaps were broken when it shipped but they were when it arrived, however it lives to this day.

@HalianTheProtogen Год назад

I'm curious if it would be possible (and, if so, how difficult it would be) to add _Hollywood Squares_' extra win condition of “control five of nine filled squares”.

@CleoKawisha-sy5xt Год назад

im going to show my youtube friends my old cumputers

@larry785 Год назад

Good! Now can you calibrate my HP 6629 & 6626 Power Supplies?

@mcerny04 Год назад

I'm used to an infinite grid tic tac toe style game, where you need to have a 5 long line to win.

@StormWaltz73 Год назад

Was that George Opperman art in the HP manual?

@winstonsmith478 Год назад

Were those key stems fully cured in a UV curing oven after printing? "As SLA uses resin and not molten thermoplastics, the effect of material shrinkage and warping is much less severe than in filament-based printing techniques. However, that doesn’t mean SLA isn’t without its own deformation issues. The photopolymer will shrink during the UV curing process, and results in wrapped edge, deformation and bad dimensional precision. "Although the resin is cured by exposure to the laser, it does not become fully cured in that brief instant. The material will only reach full strength once it is placed in a UV curing oven during post-processing.

@MichaelOfRohan Год назад

Dude has a neodymium magnet flagboard for his mvps. Take that nikocadoavocado!!!

@ajslim79 Год назад

THAT teeeeeeeasing

@Stormy4221-ft3sn Год назад

Humankind did use to ship CRTs all over the globe.

@douro20 Год назад

There's a pocket computer which uses the same CPU as the 80 series- the HP-75.

@horusfalcon Год назад

Do you fool with any HP-UX gear? I support a fleet of B2600 Workstations at work, and have had to develop methods to take images of the drives for backup/recovery purposes.

@jeromethiel4323 Год назад

Not hard to draw circles in the HP plotter commands.

@TheSputnikUtah Год назад

3 minutes in so far, but i thought back in the day they said not to point the tube down because it could damage the phosphorous or something, maybe i was lied to as a kid...

@MLX1401 Год назад

The phosphor is sprayed on and fully stable after curing - it will stay put unless physically scraped off 😄 But there definitely was a lot of silly misconceptions about crts going around...people in general seemed to have very little knowledge of how electrical stuff worked.

@bluemetal04606 Год назад

I wish HP was still good. Had really bad experiences with their modern laptops and an even worse experience with customer support. It's no fun waiting in line for hours only to be hung up on...multiple times.