Bigger Than T. rex: Spinosaurus | National Geographic 

For hundreds of millions of years, I can't wrap my head around that. Humans have been around for a blip in comparison

@@hardstylez45 i cant wrap my head around the fact that we have pyhiscal evidence of these monstorous beasts roaming around on OUR OWN planet and yet people think we are the only life in the universe. Who knows, maybe there was life on earth before the Dinos and all that evidence is way too long gone by now.

Their planet

@@anatomicallycorrectmuppets8180 well it’s ours now

@@MidniteMeatBus the infinity of possibilites is bigger than the infinity of space meaning that there's a bigger chance that there isnt life compared to that there is.

Same I don't know why

Same

same

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I too

Me to

In my case, I love playing Ark, so...I kinda wish that they would all die in a fire...

+Gigi Games :O

+Cats And Horses they are cool but in the GAME they will eat you in less then a minute with no hesitation, they are cool tho, just not in the game

I think it was better when it only walked on TWO legs, not four.

IT WAS A CROCODILE! Made for florida waters but was lost in shipping.

@@treyfowler6892 Plot twist, You were right

From the most terrifying monster in prehistoric Sahara who rivaled Tyrannosaurus Rex in dangerousness to a dino platypus. Nevermind, one should respect all animals for what they are.

Cmon spino isn't platypus ur r platypus with respect

@@mohammedelzayat6486 Did you read the second part of my comment?

"I've only been using a mere 5% of my power"

You take your eye off spinosaurus for 6 years and it’s already changed into a lovecraftian sea serpent

It has a flamethrower now

Fighting a T-Rex was ridiculous though.

@@Xenosaurian and not even bigger then a trex

@@kefayatullahmohmand925 Exactly!

Very hot, humid, and tons of insects. Much like an extant rainforest.

We could make a humanoid robot to go back in time and return with footage. But that's be a stretch

@@Ranakade Haha, maybe if we continue on our steady technological evolution for another 1000 years will timetravel be possible.... but why does it need to be a humanoid robot anyways, wouldnt it be better for it to be small and nimble if we just want footage?

Sonic The Hedgehog but its a sad truth that the spino get a lot of hate because of this question and because of the 3rd film of jurrassic park its so sad :( because i realy love spino ^^

Yess Trex wins all the way!

Sonic The Hedgehog Like me? I've dropped the whole T-Rex vs Spino trend. Spino was bigger, ergo for me it wins. But that doesn't really matter because they'd never actually fight. I love the spinosaurus because it's just so weird. Like they've said a million times, Spino is a weird dinosaur and I like that a lot about them.

Jason Alcatraz i think of it as a tie spino scaring rex away

Bcause the so called "dino fans" took the film too seriously.

How much of the spino skeleton have they actually found

That’s how I found out about the Spinosaurus too!

Huh?

Are you kidding me? You stupid fanboy. Spino was a fish with legs and a weak bite. It was a fisherman it hunted fish, the easiest and weakest of prey lol. Trex was the pinnacle of predator evolution with a bite force stronger than any other able to kill dinoasaurs bigger, faster and stronger than little fishies.

Bob Smith I didn't just hunt fish you know

Bob Smith or it probably did,I doubt spino hunting ouranosaurus,it probably just scavenged from carchar during the dry seasons,nvm then

Bob Smith , he isnt a fanboy ,he is just saying that the fight can never happen thats all. Yeh I agree it has a weak bite , but it has a arm strong enough to rip a t rex's face . Yeh t rex has the 2nd strongest bite , but it comes with a price , small arms that scientists are still figuring out what it was even used for .

SMAUG The Impenetrable they just don't needed big arms

Trey Fowler me

From the most terrifying monster of prehistoric Sahara who rivaled Tyrannosaurus Rex in dangerousness to a dino platypus. Nevermind, one should respect all animals for what they are.

@@CrazyIshan69 Yeah but this is that 100 platypus sized gigas or one giga sized platypus type of thing. Size matters.

@@treyfowler6892 Yeah, I just mean it wasn't nearly as powerful as similarly-sized theropods. And anyway, we should love and respect all animals for what they are, so I quickly discarded my disappointment.

Wow

Yes, it was real but we have other name for it: Tyrannosaurus rex, the champion in bite force of all the animal kingdom.

Nah, big sails on back? Can swim? Enormous? THIS is clearly Godzilla!

Maybe but Godzilla is supposed to be a champion, a strong warrior, Spinosaurus just seems odd and clearly not as powerful as other theropods, with those tiny hindlimbs for its size and slender ribcage

Nah I think those longer arms, sail, the fact it can rule both land on sea, and the fact it has size and power on its size makes me think Spinosaurus screams Godzilla more. T-rex maybe a king, but Spinosaurus is a God (perhaps).

Pac-Mania You really think those longer arms can defeat the mighty bone-crushing bite force of T.rex? Or that an animal as slender or elongated as Spinosaurus can defeat the massive bulk and strength of Tyrannosaurus? Godzilla is supposed to be a robust animal with powerful jaws and massive bulk, Spinosaurus is an elongated fish eater with slender jaws, powerful but not nearly as powerful as T.rex's. Spinosaurus was far from being god of the dinosaurs, Amphicoelias fragillimus was. It was 200 ft long and weighted 155 tonnes, truly god of the dinosaurs.

***** No, it's an argument creationists use against evolution.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocoduck

Very funny, because theories on how spinosaurus moved and behaved are actually based on crocs and ducks. *Spinosaurids had relatively short legs*, as seen with known members of the spinosaurae family. *Based on actual spinosaurus research, it is clear that either spinosaurus was short or very small in total*. This is because though the bones of spinosaurus suggest it was long, the pelvis and legs suggests it was very short. theropoda.blogspot.it/2014/09/spinosaurus-revolution-episodio-ii-ode.html Though the legs were clearly short, this does not mean it was necessarily very small. In fact, many semi-aquatic animals today have relatively short limbs with long bodies. Take for example: images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/006/cache/saltwater-crocodile_696_600x450.jpg upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/RiverOtterSwimmingOregonZoo.jpg ichef.bbci.co.uk/naturelibrary/images/ic/credit/640x395/g/gi/giant_otter/giant_otter_1.jpg upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Four_Giant_Otters.JPG So it would seem apparent that *spinosaurus likely had a very short leg ratio and would overall be quite short. However, this brings up the question on how it walked*. It is possible based on the fact that *spinosaurus had short legs with a long tarsal, it may have walked like a duck*; after all, it is why ducks waddle in the first place fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/227/1/7/spinosaurus_sketched_after_sereno_et_al__by_yoult-d7v9esl.jpg www.whateats.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/duck-jaroslav-novak.jpt_.jpg pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1620031390/The-interesting-thing-is-owned-by-duck.jpg static4.depositphotos.com/1007158/330/i/950/depositphotos_3308424-Common-male-mallard-duck-standing-on-a-wall.jpg upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a7/Anas_superciliosa_%28Pacific_Black_Duck%29.jpg *The more popular theory however, is that spinosaurus may have been a quadruped, due to very short legs and being far too front heavy.* phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/files/2014/09/spinosaurus-reconstruction.jpg 2.bp.blogspot.com/-k_uzwVfHep4/VBZkSSvshtI/AAAAAAAAiz0/YJZLDOrzz8A/s1600/spinosaurus-03-bones.jpg 4.bp.blogspot.com/-YxG-q7t2QXY/VBJXEjDQX2I/AAAAAAAAiy4/E_kPjzLEvkk/s1600/spinosaurus-building-skin.jpg 2.bp.blogspot.com/-2RKvoUIlnTc/VBJXEFRGerI/AAAAAAAAiyQ/_f3_fn53NSs/s1600/spinosaurus-bigger-than-a-trex-20140911.jpg The quadraped theories makes spinosaurus appear more similair to South American giant river otters in terms of body design, which actually makes a lot of sense due to inhabiting very similar environments(large rivers, lakes and ponds) upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Four_Giant_Otters.JPG

im a christian and i think the crocoduck thing is just ridiculous

Jayce Wilkinson It may be because technically, spinosaurus really was a _crocoduck_...

rafael661kc where are they being fan boys

ProAcid oh there are a lot more than one

Motun Turk the fact that is had shoet legs does make it weaker. And he still knows a lot more about dinosaurs or skeletons then anyone in this comment sections

Toostig not "weaker" just not suited for fighting therapods

7 alright it makes it less agile and fast and couldnt run on land

From the most terrifying monster in prehistoric Sahara who rivaled Tyrannosaurus Rex in dangerousness to a dino platypus. Nevermind, one should respect all animals for what they are.

@@CrazyIshan69 the spino only ate fish and probably never 1 v1 me kid the t rex

@@aliogre2000 Okay, maybe I exaggerated by saying T-Rex. More like Giga or Carchar. You gotta admit OLD Spino was pretty powerful.

Guys we dont know yet who is stronger than the other

@@mohammedelzayat6486 Nothing wrong with expressing and discussing opinions.

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What new tail?!?!? Post up please!

@@jeffreymedeiros6253 just Google spinosaurus tadpole tail

Totally agree with you. Some people would say JP3 Spino is more badass, but the fact the Spino now are so different from other therapods out there really make it so unique

Bruh it a reptile

Alfie Bell You're correct, Ibrahim estimates MSNM V4047 at 6 - 7 tonnes. I've seen estimates as low as 5 tonnes and as high as 7.6 tonnes. This is due to it's shallow torso and elongated body. If you want a comparison with T. rex, BHI 3033 ("Stan") is 6.5 - 7 tonnes, AMNH 5027 and CM 9380 (the Holotype) are around 7 - 7.8 tonnes, while the largest T. rex, FMNH PR 2081 ("Sue") was 8.4 - 8.83 tonnes. Due to T. Rex's robust build and almost barrel-like torso. The elongated body probably helped to swim faster. PS: There are estimates of 18 tonnes and 21 tonnes for T. rex and Spinosaurus, but those have some major flaws. Spinosaurus' is based on outdated information (18 metre Spinosaurus) and it doesn't account for it's slim build. For the 18 tonne T. rex, it's disproportionate and really, really fat. I generally go with a 7 - 7.7 tonne Spinosaurus and for the T. rex, it's in the previous paragraph.

Yup, overall size made him much bigger. I mean, he is almost eye to eye with Tyrannosaurus while on all fours! I tend to believe that Spino may possibly walk on twos for a short time (not necessarily like a bear, especially with that sail), and would tower over T-Rex. Obviously it most likely couldn’t do that for obvious reasons. But if it did, it’d just add to the fear factor of the creature.

It wasn't fat like T. rex but to be honest to prove T. rex is the s** toy of science the scientists say that T. rex was aquatic and could swim and hold its breathe way longer than spinosurus

Alfie Bell oh absolutely, trex was a beast

cathy peterson-witty that's a lie

+Keightley60 First thing i thought.

This is what everyone thought about dimetrodon too. But turns out dimetrodon did not even have a sail. It was a mammal with a hump to store fat from which hump half of the spines bones were exposed...look online for mammal dimetrodon.

Although most pictures are innacurate and show the old dimetrodon....

Valia 2305 I don't believe that would be the same for Spino, though IMO. It spent a lot of time in water (from what we can tell it ate fish) so id assume it would get cold in the water, like Crocodiles do. Just my opinion but i believe it spent most its time with its body submerged and its Snout and fin above the water for breathing and heat regulation. Like i said, just my opinion of it.

could be to attract mates

Wait, you can order real skeletons? I never knew that

Supreme créature ? Megalodon : hold my beer

It truly is a beautiful animal, especially after the new discoveries of 2020, seeing a spinosaurus would be a fascinating sight. Although, the supreme creature (other than armed humans) is either livyatan and megalodon.

Who’s no.1?

So who's got the gold medal anyway?

Ooooo no

Hey guys it's just his opinion

I really thought that this komment is 100 years old 🤣

You got it?

U look like ur ready to start chaos

@@julixhafa4073 I had this in mind while typing that comment.

Fine. I still like spinosaurus more. Although allo is my true favourite.

Spino can defeat t rex

@@poornakumari1714 Spino could defeat T-rex but T-Rex is more likely to win.

Yup, new updated spinosaurus has a fin like tail

@@ahmedfahreza5538 yeah i like the new version.

Its not wrong, just outdated

@@alligatoreamericano3520 yeah you're right

Who cares. Seriously...

Well if world war 2 didn't happen spino would be more popular

in world war 2 a museum filled with spinosaurus complete bone sets got bombed and completely destroyed. the spinosaur would have been more known and famous than the t rex if that never happened.

Andre Thecool I already know that..

+Andre Thecool The museum was in germany, near or in munich

Body mass wise it's bigger

its bigger not longer

Well "bigger" means taller and longger even strongger

BattleFox2 War! Bigger means heavier

Spinosaurus had more mass I think. Sure it may have a lower centre of gravity; the spine making most of spinos height, but for all intents and purposes I'd say it's bigger.

That's cool and all but the reason why I love the spino is because trex is overrated and it's getting old

Invertigo Prime - MW2 - Minecraft - and More! There's nothing overrated about Rex. It's an impressive creature that walked the Earth. Just because people like it doesn't make it overrated.

+Spider-Man you're right but Spinosaurs is something new and because of JP3 spino is the fancy one

Yes that is true andrew

T.rex isn't overrated, it was just overpowered. Seriously, a vision better than an eagle, an excellent olfatory system and a bone crushing mouth? Like, jeez, evolution wanted to create its own Godzilla...

Right now the spinosaurus deemed amphibious not only an obligate water dweller; also the legs of spinosaurus wasnt too much small to walk on land. But the quadrupedality nonsense is debunked

Nah Spino didn’t rule the waterways, there were more powerful water predators that preyed on things other than harmless fish that were the true rulers. Spino was a fisherman. It was basically a prehistoric stork or seal, all it ruled over were the little fishies lol. Here fishy fishy the big bad duck is here. Lol!

sacrosuchus the large crocodile would have been an apex predator of the waterways too, however you spell it lol

Yeah, now it's more of a dino platypus than the most terrifying monster in prehistoric Sahara who rivaled Tyrannosaurus Rex in dangerousness. Nevermind, one should respect all animals for what they are.

Goofy? You trippin? It looks terrifying.

@T_T Leader He's not criticizing it. He just pointed out that it looks increasingly goofy.

Everybodies gansta until a spino breaks lose from a lab

The one in Jurassic Park 3 is actually smaller compared to new estimates...

I know that the body is longer than the one in Jurassic Park 3, but the legs seem shorter...

Science keeps on getting updated. The raptors in the whole trilogy would look VERY different ever since discoveries about raptors since September 2007.

There are more feathers on the raptors!

@@congyu9272 there are 2 species. A long legged and short legged one

ikr but even if they were pink they would still be scary as fuck its like the baddest guy on the planet wearing something ugly i would dare you to say he looks stupid lol

Also plz no t rex arguments on which is better because the t rex would destroy it when I really think about it because the t rex is land killer when the spino is a aquatic killer. So both have advantages on each side.

Look I am not trying to start an argument with you or insult you or the spinosaurs because I love the spinosaurs but we have known for a long time that the t Rex wasn't the top predator and neither was the spinosaurs and don't forget that we haven't found a full t Rex fossil so we don't even know how big he actually is. And Ryan people don't call the t Rex the king just because of his figure it is because what he did for dinosaurs before Jurassic park dinosaur movies were a joke but when that t Rex first came on to the scene he became the most iconic dinosaur ever because he actually looked good in a movie and he got a lot of eyes on dinosaurs so it was because of him now with the spinosaurs I don't think people like him because what they did to him in Jurassic park 3 and that is make him a serial killer. So it was because of t Rex more people became fascinated with dinosaurs and that's why for me and lots of other people the t Rex will always be the king of dinosaurs 

TKO cola I'm not on about the T Rex argument anymore. The pathetic argument is done now. I'm on about the spino fans in the comments there moaning that the spino isn't as intimidating as it used to be. I'm no penatoligist but this is for accuracy and science not fiction.

I agree with what you said about separateing fiction from reality but you could have just ignored it or make a simple comment this comment about how the spinosaurs is bigger and better than the t rex but I do agree with a lot of what you had to say

TKO cola I just think the spino brings something different to the dinosuars. Not all the light is on the t rex

I am bud.

yes

Bunch of idiots

And in biology, especially when talking about animals closely related, comparing animals their weight transelates to their dimensions. As flesh and bone weigh the same in both animals. If one animal wieghs the most, than that would mean it had more flesh and bone, meaning it occupied more space. It's that simple. But generally this isn't how paleontologists calculate their size, atleast not now anymore. Now they make 3D volumetric models which makes them able to see how volumineus said animals were in Liters (water). And water can be transelates to flesh and bone but I don't know the calculations of that, but you can take in bone density into account (goes for the head aswell), the type of skin, the organs etc. So it's pretty accurate and impressive. But yes, generally speaking, an animal which is heavier is bigger (in biology). But if you want to be even more accurate one should use volume. Spinosaurus bone density is greater than that of T.rex which also makes it weight more, but it adds nothing to it's overall dimensions. Things like you have to take into account. So even if both are estimated to be the same, in 3D dimensions T.rex is still larger than said Spinosaurus. So go by volume, not lenght, not weight, volume.

and Spinosaurus is bigger than both. Yet, size isn't the big deal here

Forrest The Animezilla still, none of those predators SPINOSAURUS included would be able to defeat and kill the largest T-REX 😍😍😍

I'm pretty sure that kill thay kill t-Rex dude

Yes they were longer than the king but the king had more mass except for spino, and also had the strongest bite force to match.

Forrest The Animezilla T. rex was shorter in length, but had a wider torso, head, neck, etc, so it had more higher volume and mass.

Seriously, Jurassic Park seems like a predictor for the dinosaurs we find xD When the movie was being made, the bigger raptors on record were about the size of Bulldogs!

cerberouse1 Not true at all. In fact, the reason the "Velociraptors" in Jurassic Park are so much bigger than real Velociraptors were, is because they were confused with Deinonychus, which WAS 6ft+ tall, and at one time was thought to have been related to velociraptor. Then there's Utah raptor... even larger, and also known at the time.

Dinodude1008 "So the raptors in JP are indeed bigger than Deinonychus by a good mark." Your first sentence is correct, your second sentence is not. In fact, the raptors in Jurassic Park were right at man-height, but definitely not 7ft tall.....

Dinodude1008 I doubt that Achillobator was that tall. There is conflicting measurements in the technical literature over the size of it's bones; the femur (upper leg bone) has been reported as being both 50.5 cm and 55 cm. By contrast big Utahraptor femurs can reach 60 cm (and be as thick as a Hippo's I might add). I'll link to a scale chart at the end of this post, in there the Achillobator is scaled assuming a 50.5 cm femur, and is thus ~135 cm / 4.4 feet at the hips. If the femur was actually 55 cm, then the whole thing will be ~9% larger (~30% heavier), thus a hip height of ~150 cm / 5 feet. The Utahraptor is >160 cm and Austroraptor ~155 cm by the way. img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140522015112/archosauria/images/4/4e/Giant_Dromaeosaurs.png

Dinodude1008 Well seeing as Utahraptor and Achillobator are poorly known yet closely related, they are usually used to help restore the other, plus big chunks based off of Deinonychus. However, new as of yet un-described remains of Utahraptor are known, and they indicate that really stocky build. Achillobator would probably look similar, and any future reconstructions of it would have to take into account the stocky Utahraptor (once the material is published that is). So I just used the Utahraptor silhouette for Achillobator too, it was just easier. Either way Achillobator is hardly a lithe animal. It's illum (or hip bone if you like) was longer than it's femur, it had enormous upper legs, you also see this in some gigantic theropods like Tyrannosaurus, but in a 300 - 400 kg lightweight like Achillobator that is pretty abnormal. Of course I already mentioned how Utahraptor (and Achillobator) had femurs as thick as those of hippos twice to three times their size. Although yes, the JP 'raptors' were closer in size to Achillobator, which isn't surprising actually given that Achilobator's fossils were found and known to science as early as 1989. Whilst they weren't described and named until 1999, it is entirely plausible that the films science adviser, Jack Horner, would have known about this giant mongolian dromaeosaur and could have based the size of the films raptors off of it.

Nah

King of the rivers maybe.

@dane shackle T rex and Spinosaurus are both Kings of the Dinosaurs

mario maria It must be. One that is shortlegged and one that is longlegged

Yess one is short 4 legs dino half aquatic, the other is a shorter 4 legs dino like a hipo/crocs/chicken fully aquatic

I hate the new one

***** NOPE

JUAN STAINO yes

Same I also think that the new version makes it even more unique than the one before.

Yeah, some of them are very annoying

90%of T. rex fans are D****

La's Totally Awsome Bleach Lemon Scented Learn how to write in English first before trolling...Its embarrassing..

Well neither dinosaur would win because depending on the territory they are fighting only one would win on land T. rex water Spinosaurus so really it would be unfair either way

Lord Beerus yeah, it's like comparing a shark and a lion

I wonder y🤔

If they did fight. T rex would win with 1 good bite. Spinosaurus was very weak and its neck would fall off its torso after t rex bites its head off

We can't rule out this fact sir, maybe it's actually connected to soft bones, soft bones probably won't get enough minerals to become fossils, so maybe the fossilized chest bone didn't actually float, it's just that the soft bones in the chest were lost with time.

@@radenjanoko9599 I really appreciate the fact that you reacted to a four year old comment. Your assumption makes absolute sense. Thank you for your thought.

It's longer and taller and has a better fighter advantage than t-Rex

It actually can't fight better if uve actually looked into it the trex is the has the most perfectly designed body out of all descoverd fossil dinosaurs for a fight

I think I'll take a paleontologist's word over yours that the spino was significantly larger than the trex lol.

Mercedes and larger than the GIGANOTOSAURUS CAROLINII aswell, but none eof those two individually bigger carnivores would have never been able to defeat the majestic T-REX - THE true killing machine! Holds the record for the strongest bite forced or any terrestial creature ever! 😍😍😍 Was like a tank!!!!!

Saku Raitonen the t rex did have a bigger bite for but spinosaurus had size, an intimadation factor the giant claws and it could swim but the fight I want to see is giganotosaurus vs spino both were of same size

+Joe Janski shorter legs now right?

+Promaniak PL The original femur found by Stromer was bigger than this one

If it's already bigger, then it will still be even more so with more bones.

Because even the most pessimistic assumptions about it's size are still bigger than any known t-rex.

What a dumb and stupid question lol

It's not uncommon for males to have characteristics that are detrimental to their individual survival but increase their chances of attracting a mate and passing on their genes. That's why the males of many species of birds and fish are colorful while the females have colors that are better for camouflage.

Dinodude1008 Hey, you have a point there. I forgot that in Monsters Ressurected, this theory was mentioned, but the Spinosaurus in that doc was very exagerated if you ask me.

Dinodude1008 Revealed by BBC Spinosaurus did compete and hunt for land animals, especially Ouranasaurus during times of drought.

You mean OuranOsaurus, Pac-Mania. :)

Right, sorry I haven't played Jurassic Park Operation Genesis, or seen that 2013 BBC documentary in a while. I was happy John Hurt narrated the life of my favorite dinosaur ever in that documentary.

Sometimes

Actually it is bipedal (aka walking on it's hind limbs). Quadropedal theory was very short lived. Anatomically It's arms would break from the weight. It was bipedal 100% of the time no full on quadropedal or semi quadropedal.

Go to Africa and hang out in the saregetti

Ah yes dinosaur supremacy. I think the closest animal we have to a dinosaur right now that is not a mammal would be a komodo dragon.