Holy mama, I just bought one A MONTH AGO brand new with both leather and steel bracelet, and now that video pops up. It has been my hidden gem grail watch for long, I'm so happy I have it now. A future classic and a -not anymore- hidden gem in 38mm. Thanks Watchfinder haha.
Not to pee in your soup and don’t misunderstand me. I highly doubt this will be a future classic. The only Bulgari watch that has this potential is the finissimo as it has the pedigree of being the thinnest automatic watch to date and even this as the whole Bulgari range doesn’t sell very well, hence the huge discounts you get on these watches. Nevertheless they are attractive watches but the finishing is slightly above average. Especially their dials and cases.
@@chronounique5947 you don't know.... for all we know it may end up being a classic or not, dirt cheap rolexes now sell by millions, all depends on what actions the brand takes in the future... and unless you work there or know the future you shouldn't be so categorical The man just made an awesome choice with this one!
@@IskanderVFX of course i can’t be sure but you can place a large bet that this won’t be the case. Not comparable in any way to Rolex and in the 50s or 60s not only Rolex were dirt cheap. Other 1st tier brands were also as you say „dirt cheap“. That has a lot to due with economical developments and inflation. A car back in the 60 on average also costed aprox 2500 usd on average. Rolex is Rolex and they control the flow of products into the market. Demand is far higher than their yearly production capacity of aprox 1 Mio watches. You won’t find any discounts on their watches either. Why do you think Bulgari has discounts of up to 50% on their watches….. because demand is far lower than what they are producing.
Love the videos and have subscribed, but I’m making purchases based on this guy’s reviews, so I am trusting these vids are genuine and not just commercials for new Watchfinder stock items 🤣
These types of trends go in waves... the 70s Genta designs are super hot now, but they won't be forever. Eventually people will grow tired of the designs and then focus on something else... Also we are in a watch bubble right now and I fully expect prices for all watches to decrease from their crazy highs right now
Not sure I'd agree with the 'best bargain' tag, when for £4700 I can buy a Grand Seiko SBGA375G which is beautifully finished, not nearly such an acquired taste in the looks department, and has a genuinely innovative Spring Drive movement that no other watchmaker could manufacture even if they tried.
@@chancebanana It's just a Quartz-movement with a spring to generate the electric current. And therefore they are very thick movements, because they need to put both technologies into the watch. It is nothing revolutionary, just 2 technologies combined.
You can get them at bargain prices too on chrono 24. I filter the ones I want to see then go Low to High and consider the first 10 results. There's an Octo for about $2000 US there at the moment
I own both RO and Octo Solotempo. Design wise, I dun think the Octo solotempo is any inferior to the RO. And I personally think the Octo Solotempo in 38mm is the best balanced and proportioned Octo
I would hardly ever call this one a bargain. The movement is quite simple, with nothing more than a full balance bridge and some decent finishing as standing features. The only notable feature is indeed the design and good finishing of the case and integrated bracelet. Bargains are Seamaster SMPs, Grand Seikos, Tudors. In fact, without the Gerald Genta name and Bulgari brand, this would go for 2k at best, sorry.
Pls just honestly review a tissot prx Powermatic 80 I want to hear what he had to say. I think he will enjoy it but who knows. He might cut it apart… I want to see tho
I have one. It quickly became my daily driver. Set it once almost a month ago and it's only lost 5 seconds. Amazing watch especially for the money. Bracelet is a scratch magnet though.
@@Somedude75566 my only concern before pulling the trigger is the size, I've got a 6.5 inch wrist which may be a little too big on my wrist. The case back and bracelet keep me coming back to the Tissot site.
@@Ahmadmohamm3d my wrist is 6.5 and it looks just fine. Still recommend trying one on before buying though. I tried on a quartz one before the auto was out and it fits the same except the auto is a little thicker.
Is it just me or is noone seeing the little white 'dots' on the dial in macroshots? At this price, these small blunders would drive me insane if I bought one. Would rather get a GS or GO at this pricepoint.
@@AboraPearl Not sure if the dots are on dial but there are other issues obviously. definitely there are better alternatives depending on affordability Id go for Girard perregaux , IWC ingenieur or Grand seiko, however because it’s a jewellery brand most likely get a huge reduced price in used market, which in that case might worth considering.
@Christopher Wood -MDH- I wouldn't say it was clear because if you freeze frame it you literally can't tell as the hands are the same brightness and tone as the dots. It just disappears...probably underneath.
I've been considering one of these for quite some time, what actually convicted me though was seeing one in the flesh in the MSP airport. The gentlemen wearing it was kind enough to show me though asked me not to mention how much it was with his wife near by.
I agree with you on this Bvlgari being a bargain for what it is. I would also add my vote for the new Omega Seamaster. At $5200 with a coaxial/manufacture movement, ceramic bezel, laser engraved ceramic dial, helium escape valve, and patented straight locking display caseback, huge brand recognition, and proven resale value, it’s hard to beat.
and on the movement, some parts are rough, it looks like the watch has been worn and worked on (marks on the adjustment arm of the balance) , which would be normal. Not if it's a new watch.
@@barrypike3669 the fleck at 11 is a Knick in the glass, and I don't see anything wrong with the 6. This is a 9 years old, and a well worn watch that looks to have been touched up along the way. I own one of these, and I can tell you the quality is above my Omega and Rolex, and right there with my GS. My Rolex is older, and my Octo is from 2018, so not sure what a 2021 version if each would look like however.
The ONLY reason any luxury brand watch represents value is when it becomes an investment. Otherwise a microbrand watch can be 90% as good for 10% of the price.
The biggest bargain is a seagull tourbillon, which is every bit as good as any Swiss tourbillon at 1/100 of the cost . I bought mine for 12 years, it is gaining 1 second per day, never missed a beat. Dropped it twice and still runs like a champ
I have a 1938 Omega 23.4 . I bought from a dealer from Argentina. I have watch the time keeping for Three weeks. It is dead bang accurate, The condition is great. The face is great. I bought a Horween Rally black band for it. I bought a 16mm Omega watch buckle from india for it. It looks. Great. Since Omega does own the trade mark of for Omega, there no counterfeits any were in the world. They all are Legitimate . I love it.
Watches are jewelry for men. I don't care if it says Bulgari. The watch is beautiful and the price is excellent. Way more character that a similarly priced Rolex. I'll take a conversation piece that enthusiasts will know over an over priced brand
A polarasing time piece that is not for everyone, but packed with Genta & Roth's design language. I had the fortune to see the Octo Roma 102704 in person and I fell in love with the design and the finish. Of course, in house movement is something that one cannot take the eyes off. With so much on the table for a price tag of £4700, I dived in and bought it. Love it!
Two years later and it seems as though people still aren’t paying much attention. The 2023 Octo Roma series seems to be the next generation of these and they now have lumed hands and indices. They are expensive for what they are, though they make for a more palatable concession for those who thought the Octo Finissimo was a bit much.
Hi there, which one you think would be better between bvlgari solotempo vs hublot classic fusion in terms of movement, quality etc..coz i love both aesthetically and thinking to get one for myself. Appreciate it sorry for noob question 🙏🏻
I definitely think this is one of my favourite Genta designs, and the price is pretty decent for the provenance. Although, I am also very impressed by the Baume et Mercier you introduced us to a couple of weeks ago.
Genta's 70s designs should be tried for crimes against aesthetics! I'd need to be paid £4500 to wear one myself. Excellent video as always tho, Cheers 👍🏻👍🏻
Absolutely, bvlgari designs are second to none. However, unfortunately, this is where it stops.. everything else is just average when compared with completion.
I thought the same thing, until I tried one on. I have a Seamaster, and have tried on the black bay a few times, but the BB just doesn't do it for me. When I go to my watch box and think "what will I wear today?", more then half the time, it's the watch in this video. (mine is a chronograph however). They look a lot better on, and grow on you quite a bit, as you wear them. It's an amazing watch.
The RO and Nautilus are the Ford Capri 3000 Ghia and Escort RS 2000 of watches. A bit pricy back in the 70s but but not unobtainable. Now somewhat different. Like Capris and Escorts, sought after by the progeny of oligarchs around the world (mostly Essex and foreign equivalents). The Octo is much more of a 1989 Golf GTI, with fewer door lock issues.. Love it. Keep up the good work.
@@tornagawn Highly unlikely it's on the outside. It's even visible on their listing photo. Do you think Watcfinder would overlook a mark on the crystal to that extent?
@@lefroy1 possibly damage to the crystal. If you start viewing around the 1:50 mark, you’ll see the position of the dot moves relative to dial. Inside or outside the crystal, that’s an easy thing to replace
@@lefroy1 as per the comment by Rousseau, starting from 1:40, as it rotates you will see the dot move across the face. It’s NOT on the face. At worst, damage or debris on the crystal, at best….’dust’….yep, could be on the inside surface of the crystal 🤷♂️
Yeah, definately on the crystal, but somehow doesn't look like 'damage'. I'd wager it's a bit of dust or fleck of paint stuck on the crystal with static. If it is, my original position hold's true. It would do my head in (oddly, I'd find a chip on the crystal easier to live with, lol).
in my opinion, the octo looks much better then the nautilus or the royal oak. the watch looks like a brutalistic architect paying homage to art deco and succeed. sadly, this bargain is still to expensive for my income ;)
I have to be honest. Been watching your videos for quite some time and this background music is giving me anxiety by now. Other than that, great production, nice shots and good content.
I think people misinterpret the word “bargain” a great deal. It doesn’t mean if you have NO money, that this watch is cheap. It means for what you’re having to spend, you can’t find another watch that compares until you get into a much higher price.
I think for me having wanted one , then having tried one on , I was always conflicted- I think when it’s off the wrist looking down it’s a nice watch , lots to appreciate, the dial I think could have been sunburst or textured but in general a nice piece - but then on the wrist ? I don’t know just didn’t seem to look right for me - I know first impressions and all that but it’s a watch that I think needs adjustment time
Wrist size is paramount because the proportion of the bracelet makes it more decorative. It can come across as a piece of jewelry with a watch on it if the wrist is on the smaller side.
I have the new 41mm octo Roma with the blue dial, metal bracelet, it is stunning yes it’s not the world timer or finessimo version but, none the less it is an unbelievable watch and am so glad I bought it
I thought it was an Octo Finissimo at first, until I noticed the date window. Then I thought to myself…oh no, Bulgari have gone and ruined the Finissimo by adding that wart of a date window to it. But no, it’s a discontinued “regular” Octo…relief ensued 😅
Exactly 6:01. “When you think BVLGARI - you think fashion watch” I even think something like a shopping mall or dillards or macy’c… but absolutely no association with precise Swiss watchmaking craftsmanship. It’s certainly not a bad watch but it doesn’t tell a watch story as do omega, breitling or even GS as many mentioned.
Good god, no. The bargain of watchmaking is the vintage market. I just bought a Rolex Oyster Perpetual in solid 18k gold for the same price of that hunk of steel Bvlgari. I mean really.
Weird, the oyster perpetual is a pretty chunky watch, it should have cost much more in solid 18k gold (I have a pp calatrava 3802/200 in solid 18k also) and in comparison to its size and weight the value doesn’t sound right)
@@zreolmeannin it’s a late 50s 6085. While what I paid for it was a pretty decent price, it is not out of line for what good condition 18k 6085s go for. If you are interested in one, you want a later model, as some earlier ones do not have shock resistance and are thus less wearable. Also it is not a bracelet model. However, in the crazy valuation of SS Rolexes these days, you don’t pay much premium for the gold, frankly.
