The Avengers are a copy of the Justice League, first appearing in 1963, three years after the JL debuted in 1960. Jim Starlin's Thanos was "inspired" by Jack Kirby's Darkseid. Kirby was co-creator of the Challengers of the Unknown for DC in 1957, and would go on to copy elements from that team when creating the Fantastic Four for Marvel in 1961.
Challengers Of The Unknown were a group of Three Scientists who explored and solved scientific mysteries. They had a forth Female member AFTER the Fantastic Four was created. Jack Kirby was the only creator.
Stan has said Martin Goodman found out that the Justice League was selling and told him to create a team like that. Since Timely /Atlas wasn't doing heroes at the time the Fantastic Four was the first answer to the Justice League
I disagree that steel is a copy of iron man. Yes they have similar backstories but thats where the similarities end, Steel is actually inspired by a historic figure named John Henry (There was a short story on netflix about him while ago). Evidence that steel is based on John Henry is 1. his name 2. his weapon of choice, in the story John Henry dug out a mountain with a hammer(steel uses hammer)
Red Tornado Copied Marvel's first character The Android Human Torch. Both were created in a Secret Laboratory, both were ment to be weapons of war. And both were Elemental Androids. Red Tornado element of air, original Human Torch element of fire.
DC has Catwoman - Marvel has Black Cat, Hepzibah Tigra Hellcat DC has Batman Marvel has NightHawk ( a millionaire who dresses in a dark Disguise (animal themed) and goes fighting crime at night.)
You mean Zorro or the Shadow, right? Wealthy guy, mask, dark attire, fights criminals with skills not superpowers? Batman is a rip-off, not original. Nighthawk, Power Princess, the Skrullian Skymaster, Hyperion, Whizzer II (Stewart), Doctor Spectrum, Amphibion, and almost all the Squadron Supreme are meant to be mockeries of the Justice League... it is intentional to show the Squadron Supreme lose to the Avengers.
About Vision, Roy Thomas original plan was to have the Golden Age Vision join the Avengers, but Stan Lee wanted an android hero (no way of knowing if he knew about the Red Tornado) so Roy re-worked his idea, keeping the name. Let's not forget that the original Human Torch was an android who was red when aflame. Neither Marvel nor DC created the concept of androids so saying one character is a copy of the other because they are both androids doesn't make much sense.
Kind of funny but Marvel might not have did Captain Marvel if another company did not create a android Captain Marvel that made Martin Goodman Marvel's then owner upset he didn't want another publisher having a character with Marvel in their name. Also that Captain Marvel was created by Carl Burgos the creator of the original Human Torch who was upset over what was done with the Torch after his copyright lawsuit failed.
Sentry was inspired by Miracle Man and Shazam. Blue Marvel has more in common with Captain Atom. The only Superman type character in Marvel is Hyperion. Gladiator was inspired by the version of Superboy and The Legion Of Superheroes. Superman himself was inspired by Warlord Of Mars, Doc Savage and the Golden Age Gladiator.
The one Crossover/Team up I always wanted to see since childhood was a team up with Dr. Doom and Lex Luthor! That would be interesting! Also, speaking of copycat characters I remember there was a superhero, I'm sure Stan Lee & Jack Kirby didn't copy him on purpose. But there was a Superhero called The Comet, in the 1940's, whom fired eyebeams from his eyes, just as later Cyclops of the X-men could do. And just as with Cyclops, he had to wear a protective visor, to keep his eyebeams under control. I remember it was published by MLJ Comics, which would later publish Archie Comics. I also remember The Comet got killed in his last adventure.
Iron Man seems to be a mash-up of Bruce Wayne and Superman (Iron Man... Man of Steel, red and gold suit = red and yellow "S"). Carol Danvers -= Kara Danvers, obviously, with a bit of Green Lantern thrown in. Nothing wrong with Marvel and DC having some healthy competition and keeping each other on their toes.
As far as Vision and Red Tornado go I would like Roy Thomas's input because they came out so close to the same time and he did use a few issues laying the ground work for the Vision's debut . Martian Manhunter would be a closer copy of the original Vision .
@@SuperGayMan1000 he didn't... in fact, it is technically the other way around... as Red Tornado is based off the Original Human Torch (the Android, from Marvel's earliest stuff, who fought in WWII along side Captain America and Namor, both of whom DC also ripped off), and in most Marvel timelines, the Original Human Torch's body was used by Ultron 5 to make Vision.
@@TxSonofLiberty Oh, that I know. Both The Android Human Torch and Red Tornado were Elemental Androids created to be weapons of War during World War 2. And true, Martian Manhuanter was a copy of the original Vision. Both are last survivors of their home Planets, both came to Earth disguise as Human Police Detectives.
All the Stories from DC and Marvel were originally connected together except that they broke away from each other and in court they got a settlement agreement known as to each their own...and this resulted in both Companies losing rights to two main things either one company lost the name I'm usage for that Character...and by this agreement each Company was able to retain to pieces of the Storyline or the character...now the if you got the Character in the settlement the other lost rights to the Name and back and Forth... I'll give you a Good example that not many people get... The Joker and the Green Goblin are the same Character except that because one or the other company lost the rights they had to rewrite the storyline and both companies have been stuck on that... Now Wolverine is supposed to be Batman except that like the Joker in Batman Wolverine is poor and Homeless in X-Men and in reverse the Joker was made poor and Homeless in Superman...😅 This is a real story...now Fox owns X-Men and Spiderman and the Fantastic 4 and any shows you ever seen on Fox like Captain Planet right that's Marvel and those kids from the show use the Madrians POWER RINGS...there's 10 right the Green Lantern has the Green Ring right and he does make an appearance with the doctor strange because you don't realize that Doctor Strange appeared in both DC and Marvel storylines...now Iron Man is supposed to be Disney right Walt Disney himself...and Iron Man and Spiderman meet up...now the WB is DC comics and they been making movies for ever trying to fix their storyline gaps and retrofitting the missing character either by name or appearance...now on DC sides Batman Beyond is their Spiderman... Terry Meguines is Knight Hawks Son and Night Hawk used an Earlier version in the Batman stories... except that Batman disappears and the Show eventually ends right but meanwhile they introduced Night Hawk and eventually Tim Drake ran off to create the Teen Titans and he dies... supposedly at the End of the Teen Titans Tim Drake dies and that's where the story lines meet up with Batman reappearing before Batman Beyond...now Bruce is Hercules...
Steel wasn’t copying iron man. Steel was a response to the DEATH OF SUPERMAN. There was a series called “Rise of the SuperMen”, where John Henry aka Steel, rose up to take Superman’s place. So did a handful of other mf’s, but he was a notable mention..
Marvel's Captain Marvel it's not a copy of Shazam. They took ownership of a name because they were Marvel Comics and had to keep publishing the comic or the character to keep the copyright but their powers and Origins are nothing alike
Several discrepancies. 1) Fawcett didn't lose the lawsuit, they in fact won the lawsuit, as it was proven that Bill "Captain Marvel" Batson was in development at the same time as Clark "Superman" Kent, they were both first released within months of each other, and Superman's powers were changed after Captain Marvel came out. If you go back, you will see that Captain Marvel was far more powerful and had abilities that Superman didn't, like Flight (yes, flight. Superman didn't fly until a few years after Captain Marvel, because Superman was being given a Radio Serial, and the Foley Operator couldn't come up with a sound for "Leaping a Tall Building in a Single Bound", which was what Superman could originally do, not fly... the Foley guy suggested National Comics change it, so they did, then they sued Fawcett to pre-emptively destroy the competition). 2) DC didn't buy the rights from Fawcett. The years in court were too much, Fawcett went under, but they refused to sell to DC, and instead sold to Charleston (creators of Blue Beetle and the Question). Unfortunately, Charleston did eventually sell to DC, giving all the Charleston and Fawcett characters to DC. 3) Steel is not an Iron Man rippoff, he is a Superman fanboy, his armor is vastly different from Iron Man's. By the loose definition of calling Steel an Iron Man rippoff for having Armor, Thor is a Superman rippoff for having Superstrength, Flight, a Red Cape, Nigh Invulnerability, and having enemies from his own powerful people. You missed a real big one... Aquaman is a Blatant Namor Rippoff (Half Surface Dwelling King of Atlantis, who sometimes fights other heroes, green scaled lower body attire, wings on his ankles/legs, super strong, often fights others of his kind for his throne... Namor 1939, Aquaman 1941) BTW, Captain Marvel premiered Feb 1940... so did the Adventures of Superman Radio Serial... meaning Captain Marvel, who was being designed around the same time, had the powers when Superman gained them... Superman was Faster than a Speeding Bullet (Mach 1), Captain Marvel could move with the Speed of Mercury (Lightspeed); Superman was More Powerful than a Locomotive (Able to Lift/Push/Pull about 25 tons) for hours, Captain Marvel had the Strength of Hercules (Able to Hold up all creation) and the Stamina of Atlas (For all eternity); Superman could Leap Tall Buildings in a Single Bound, Speed of Mercury included being able to Fly; Superman was Bullet Proof, Captain Marvel has the Courage of Achilles (Meaning nothing could physically harm him). There is a reason DC actually didn't win the lawsuit, but DC and Fawcett settled after years of fighting.
Wow. I've never seen someone try to retcon reality so hard. I'm actually a Huge fan of Captain Marvel, far more than I am of superman but Jesus fellow do better research
Fawcett couldn't sell Captain Marvel was part of the settlement and DC didn't want to buy him at that time. I read it was Jack Kirby who suggested to Carmine Infantino to get Captain Marvel when Kirby went to DC in the 70's
@@markmullins8622 Learn your history, Bill Parker began the concept that was fused into a single character of Captain Marvel in 1937, Siegel and Shuster's Ubermench/Superman was originally a Bald Villain like Luther... the characters were proven to be drastically different, especially as Superman was provable by his own first comics to be not remotely in the same power levels nor abilities as Captain Marvel (SUPERMAN COULD NOT FLY UNTIL THE RADIO SERIAL, WHICH CAME OUT AFTER WHIZ Comics #2). DC has retconned the story in the past few decades to portray themselves as the winners because it looks bad if people remember that they literally went around suing and screwing other companies over for their most iconic characters (everyone early on except Batman and Superman was created by competition, All-American Comics was the first to be consumed by National and Detective Comics to use Detective Comics Initials: DC as their new unified brand... Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, and Flash were the first character stolen to make DC, while the big ripp-offs, Superman and Batman would become the Iconic proof DC 'created' Superheroes and could sue anyone and everyone... except Timely had Captain America, Human Torch, and Namor first.. oh, Look, the guys DC ripped-off to come up with Guardian, Red Tornado, and Aquaman... yeah, Vision isn't a rip-off of Red Tornado, Vision is a restored Human Torch, Red Tornado is a Rip-Off of the Original Human Torch, Jim Hammond, created by Professor Phineas Thomas Horton). DC wants everyone to think they won, because it removes the stain that they have been stealing characters since their inception (They even stole Superman from Siegal and Shuster, which was another legal battle that was fought for decades, taking til 1975 for Siegal and Shuster to get anything for actually creating Superman... and even then it was a joke, but you knew that, cause you're such a fan). Telling the story from DC's slanted perspective only helps them rewrite the history that they abused writers, stole characters, destroyed competition, and would control everything if it weren't for Jack Kirby and Joe Lieber (yes, Joe, not his nephew Stanley, because Jack and Joe were creating two decades sooner and while Stan would be the one to make Marvel Marvelous, Joe and Jack built the foundation that Stan could build the Skyscraper atop).
@markmullins8622 you probably think Edison invented the lightbulb, and Al Gore's dad invented the internet. Ban news for you, N-Rays don't exist; despite Ralph Nader doing a video on it, you can't buy Kryptonite to protect yourself from Superman; and Superman is slower than the Flash (and has actually always been, because Superman is only faster than a Speeding Bullet, aka, just over Mach 1)
You are so wrong! Even captain america costume is a copy from a hero from dc watchman... there are so many things that are stolen from dc.EVEN THE NAME "MARVEL" (for the comic) is stolen😂
Who the heck is Watchman? Captain America was made in 1940. DC Comics wasn't even DC Comics until 1977, National Publications was the company suing and ripping off others.
Good job. Keep it up. But try not to sound too one-sided. It's obvious you favor Marvel, based on how you sound and your choice of words. Try to centralize things.
Green arrow came first and hawkeye came later (but as a villain). Hawkeye later became a hero tho and then there were two archer heroes that were very similar.
Both are copies of the Robin Hood myth. Green Arrow with his Arrow Car, Arrow Lines, and Arrow cave was a Batman ripoff with arrows instead of batarangs.
Original Blue Beetle (Garrett) and Original Spider-Man (Parker) are vastly different characters... Blue Beetle wasn't even DC originally, and wasn't much like Spidey. He popped a pill and gained enhanced strength, agility, and durability, wore chainmail armor, was a cop by day). What you are comparing is Blue Beetle III, who wears an Cybernetic Alien Parasite to Stark Armored Spider-Man.
they are all stolen from Mythology also 2008 saw the Obamafcation of marvel so they stole character designs across the board like DUDE Blue beetle is bascially latino discount guyver anyway PEACE MAKER is more relatable than Cap A
Not always. NightHawk was not that successful a copy of Batman, and no copy of Catwoman was as successful as the DC character. None of the several Superman-derived marvel copies was more than a pastiche at best.
@@quimicoz NightHawk is not meant to be good, he is a joke, he is supposed to show how dumb an idea Batman is. Either as an inept hero or as a villain to defeat. Marvel's real Batman knockoff is Moon Knight if anything.
Most DC copies look lame as hell…lol . This is why Marvel always had better characters,DC makes dorky looking corny name characters almost always ..they lucked out with Shazam though .
Actually... DC made very few characters... most of theirs are stolen from other companies either by force or by buying them out. Arguably, the only character DC made was Batman, everyone else was stolen by one means or another... especially Captain Marvel/Shazam.
greatest sin in comics is how POPULAR Deadpool has become..... 🙄 THE CHARACTER IS A KNOCK-OFF!!! letting RyRe run wild and be all sarcastic playing him doesnt change that! 🥱🥱
TimberWolf was Super Strong and could Fly in his first appearance, he only had a healing factor and became more Animalistic AFTER Wolverine was created so nope. Wolverine was never a Ripoff of Timberwolve.
Dude, The Guardian and Captain American were both Jack Kirby and Joe Simon created characters. Timely Comics (Marvels original name) was seriously underpaying these guys and they got a better offer from DC so reusing their concept seems legit to me.
Mar-Vell is not a copy of Captain Marvel in any way. The only thing the two characters had in common was the name. It's not Marvel's fault that DC and/or Fawcett allowed the copyright on the Name to expire allowing Marvel to take advantage of it.
In a way, Mar-Vell did copy the original Captain Marvel later in his series. When Mar-Vell was trapped in the Negative Zone, teenage Rick Jones used a pair of nega-bands to change places with him, by slamming the bands together over his head ( copying Samson from the 1960s cartoon “Young Samson & Goliath”). There was even a scientist named Dr. Savannah (Sivana?).
@@13thwho Not really. Billy IS Marvel, just older and smarter while the Big Red Cheese. Rick was Rick and Mar-Vell was Mar-Vell, they were in no way the same person.
@@Clell65619 Some stories argue whether Billy and Captain Marvel are the same person. For example, in Captain Marvel Adventures” #73 from 1947, the lead story is “Captain Marvel Meets Billy Batson”. In it, Zeus had a sore shoulder, so every time Billy said “Shazam!”, Zeus would throw the magic lightning bolt, but it would strike someone else, changing that person into Captain Marvel.
