Bike To The Future with The ELF 

Do you have any problems with it like shaking? Cause I am lovin this especially with the price

Ethan Wood The Elf does shake as it is supposed to because anything too rigid would cause problems as it's design is both under tension and compression. I reduced speed on any bumps and try to ride on smooth pavement only.

ro0ky No suspension?

@@yusadani755 It has front elastomer suspension. In areas where you know the roads are bumpy it is wise to get the 3 inch tire option. They make a real difference especially when a few pounds under max pressures. This is not an off road bike but gravel bike trails are fine.

What’s the top speed and how much do they cost?

+latishabrown801 You moved to Durham at the right time! Downtown is a lot better than what it was...... We do have a backseat option available for the ELFs now, and we are producing side doors as well, but they are not completely enclosed (think of a car with the windows down for comparison). I'm glad you got a chance to view the showroom! Have you gotten a test ride? If not, you should schedule one, or just stop by and we can give you one.

Hay you hlep me how to fixe a elf 🚗

Don't forget doors!

I have just looked at their site, and they do indeed have a passenger seat option, even one for 2 small kids a price drop would mean moving the manufacturing out of the US, something I dont want to see. you will just have to pass on the ELF or build your own.

ESUTERURE They just added the door option this month, (February)

Used ELFs start at $3,500. Have you found one yet?

Where they selling used ELF’s at ? Cause I want one

What's so important about it being made in the US?

This is the SUV or cargo version of a velomobile. If you prefer narrow, light with no cargo or passenger room there are plenty of options.

@@TheSupertecnology Some of us are patriotic and refuse to stab our neighbors in the back by buying imported vehicles that steal American jobs.

@@popeyegordon Someday you will get real and grow up.

@@baddoggie101 You are a fool and a troll. I am retired and an expert owner who has used the ELF for all my transportation for 6 years now. It is the highest character and patriotism for Americans to buy American. My last post here earned 5 upvotes because it is true.

Your mountain bike is not street legal, can not haul 20 bags or groceries or a passenger out of the weather, has no crumple zones or full DOT lighting system with car horn. You also can not take advantage of solar charging, the best feature I take full advantage of every day here in Florida..

I agree. I have a bike because I can not afford a car but I'm limited by the weather as to when I can go out on it. I wish I could afford something like this but honestly it's a huge investment for someone at my income level and I'd fear someone stealing it anyway.

Even a used car costs you $3000/yr to own and use. ELF pays for itself in a few years then its all gravy. Worked for me.

It costs more than the Kelly blue book price for my three year old Prius, that I sold a couple of years ago.

Nobody cares how you get around IF you can do it without stealing more than your fair share of resources from future generations. The ELF lets former car drivers tread lightly.

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Popeye Gordon no

Popeye Gordon this is the internet what would you expect. Get used to it and stop being a baby.

When I was growing up in D.C. I was going to a school in Wheaton, MD.. On the way... the school (the short one) bus would go through Bethesda then through Kensington etc..on Connecticut Ave.. On Connecticut ave there was a little odd three wheel car which I thought was the coolest thing ever. Anyways, that little car told me about how the world can be very different indeed. Not sure why I'm telling you guys all this. I just appreciate people that DO what they wanted to do, and that was bad ass. Oh btw be careful!

Marlon Mark The world could indeed be very different if only people could see past how it is.

+OT Sales 2 I love when someone +1's an old comment, I like to be reminded of these things.

+Tom Leeds Good to know! I have to endorse people who endorse us! Have you by any chance gotten an opportunity to visit Durham to view the facility and try a test ride?

OT Sales 2 LOL, one of my sayings is "I support those who support the things I support" And no, but I should have since I have family north of Charlotte. And I used to live in Winston Salem and Salisbury. But I have not been back for a long time. But rest assured that when I find myself down that way, I am in Chicago, that is on my list of things to do. But sadly I have a very long list of things to do and I had almost forgotten about this so was so glad someone +1'd my comment so I could be reminded. Plus that lets me undo and redo my thumbs up to put it in my other feeds again. Do you have any customers in the Chicago area yet?

You should pay more attention to learning how to compose sentences properly. The bikes can wait.

Not an issue. In fact some states have an exemption for full stops with bikes when the intersection is empty.

Perhaps they should have thought that a vehicle like this can't be ridden anywhere, partially or safely. It's not a bike; it's a circus vehicle with no infrastructure designed to accommodate it. The same goes with trikes/recumbents and both of their *fat* cousins.

@@brianbassett4379 Very true but I believe there is a genuine market for Electric Micro Vehicles in our near future. The manufacturing costs to build them are enormous but the prototypes have already been built.

@@brianbassett4379 Very false. The ELF was my only transportation for 7 years. ELFs have set records for long distance travel in velomobiles, the longest is 46,000 miles and still going. No one has ever been lost in a collision with this, the safest bike ever made in all history. Learn what a velomobile is and how this is a cargo version of the velomobile design. Trikes of all sorts also are very widely used on trails and in traffic but only the ELF has all the DOT lighting and horn like a car. These days the standard for bike paths is now 10 feet wide - no issues. After 7 years with no typical car expenses of $3000/yr I saved so much I was able to pay cash for a new US made Arcimoto electric autocycle capable of 85 mph. It is also an exceptionally safe and versatile trike.

A container filled with four ELFs was sent to Denmark. That's like selling sand in the desert! Amsterdam already has its own bike industry.

Agreed! Musk should stop making unsustainable heavy personal cars and crank out an improved version of the ELF or PEBL.

It has a range of 25 miles now. The video is 7 years old, a long time for battery performance and cost changes. It is illegal to go faster than 20 MPH in an ebike in the US. It would be foolish to go 45 in a 160 pound trike. It is not designed for such speeds. Three owners have completed journeys between 4000 and 36,000 miles in an ELF with one extra battery. Any vehicle with a solar panel is assumed to have a battery.

Funny, no one laughs at me, they cheer, give thumbs up, honk in appreciation and take photos. Some actually yell 'thank you!' out their windows as they drive by.

@@whatsdrugs omg that happens in New York, California, washinton , and Virginia so much. Ewww nasty ppl that must be burn alive.

At least 30,000 miles if properly installed and maintained with proper alignment.

+ThruThe9 I suspect that they have doors, but they are an option. I've seen similar vehicles @ bike shops and there is an inclement weather option that is velcro based if memory serves me correctly...

Doors make it too hot. Rain just blows by the doors. Not an issue. I needed mine for sun protection but it offers so much more.

Different colors, two tone paint jobs look great on this. There are solid rims available. I customized mine in many ways. But the base model is cool as hell if you ask me. Nothing beats emissions free fully sustainable transportation in safety that no bicycle can offer. But it is the SUV of velos, if you want speed go for a streamliner bullet bike.

+whitegemgames Lol! Go for it!

yes I'm with you no more gas

whitegemgames B Nincs

So did you get it yet?

Reckless operation can be dangerous with any vehicle. I have never had one wheel leave the road yet, I just use common sense. The NuVinci hub is the brand used.

The shipping to AU is far too much. The battery can easily be plugged in with the included AC charger but the solar panel works so well that some never need to plug in.

Wrong on all counts! As a bicyclist you have no excuse for this ignorance. Crumple zones on this high visibility high profile vehicle that places your head at the same height as car drivers and features full DOT lighting makes this an extremely safe vehicle compared to any bicycle. Really stupid comment about parking too, it is always easier to park the ELF in 1/3rd the space of a car and to fit it into otherwise not accessible spaces like motorcycle parking and on the sidewalk next to bike racks. I'm disabled and get to park my ELF right near the entrance doors of stores even without a disabled parking permit. Lock to any post.

I get what he’s saying I live in New York City an I don’t live in Manhattan so parking this is going to be hard for me whenever I do get one I’m going to have to pay for parking or it will get stolen for sure

your comment is years old but as of the time of me writing this their main website says the company is in bankruptcy and is for sale. sorry looks like no ELF's for you or for me. :(

Jacob ellinger I am a custom fabricator at a bike shop here in oregon and i have been playing around with making an elf style bicycle and soon to be completing my first one, if interested we can talk and figure out a game plan to build a custom reverse tricycle for you

Two door styles are available but we don't like them, makes it too hot and the windows fog because we are exercising in the small space. In the US our laws limit top speed of motor to 20 mph. Slower in Europe.

is it available in Europe ?

@@ludwigvanosselaer4179 If you are willing to pay the shipping and it has to be converted to EU speed limit and pedelec. several have been shipped your way.

you read my mind brother

+Reflection Ofpower I thought the same thing when I first road one in the rain! However, you stay surprisingly dry in the rain as long as there is not a strong wind blowing the rain inside the vehicle (I know this from experience). We don't have a bigger battery available just so we can stay under normal city regulations for electric bicycles, but you can fit another battery behind the main one so that you can easily change a second one out. This won't change your speed (again regulations), but it will give you a wider range of mileage. As far as temperature is concerned, this vehicle is not entirely enclosed, so in that manner, it is better than a bike at retaining heat, but it should be treated as a bike given it's (current) design.

Your problems do not exist in the real world. You stay warm by pedaling. The rain just blows by the open door, maybe your elbows get wet, no big deal. Doors are available but few want them.

Popeye Gordon nonsense, I constantly have to deal with rain falling at 45° due to wind, and even if I wait till after the rain stops I'll still often get soaked up to my knees due to potholes and uneven surfaces collecting massive amounts of rain water. Weather isn't a unified constant across the world. I've lived in near every biome, and this wouldn't appreciably help protect me during the storm season in any area I've lived in save northern California. If I still lived there, I'd be much more forgiving of its limited use cases, but right now...? I actually do quite like this vehicle, but it isn't a sufficiently practical alternative in places with extreme weather. And to its credit, it doesn't claim to be! Every person and every environment has different needs. It doesn't undercut this vehicle to recognize that it's not appropriate for every area, the same way it doesn't undercut my bicycle to acknowledge that it's not appropriate for the freeway

This vehicle weighs 160 pounds. Any wind drag would only slow down the vehicle, wind generators on moving vehicles are an ignorant attempt to make perpetual motion, a scientific impossibility pursued by many high school dropouts. Trust me, you don't know more than a team of top notch engineers.

Not to mention it looks like it's made of plastic the way it's shaking when he's pedaling so no protection in an accident & no insurance because it's classified as a bike.

It IS crazy. They are insane. The problem is that there's no competition. So I guess I will make my own

+bahrta sai NO, its not crazy! As long as its well made and can last 5 or so years with reasonable care. Its good value as long as you use it regularly. Say in comparision, a really cheap car cost 10k, if you do 90 percent of your getting around in an elf, thats a 9k value, PLUS the savings in parking, insurance, gas, cheaper repairs, you are talking big savings. Depending on what your monthly cost is, the thing will pay for itself in 1-2 years.

You keep posting these falsehoods but this is wrong. 800+ units sold and 3 million road miles logged, the ELF has been involved in 4 car crashes so far. No injuries yet. The body provides crumple zones and holds the driver inside. It bounces off cars and the dents will just pop back out.

Can you make me one too I can’t build anything

This is not a dealer page. Please go to OrganicTransit.com The 750 watt motor can pull as much as 1,800 watts from the battery while climbing hills and simultaneous pedaling lets you tackle steeper hills. The panel slowly charges a powerful 48 volt lithium battery. Not a micro car, a car-bike or more precisely, an electric assist velomobile. The current base price is $9K US. If mine was lost I'd order another one immediately. Shipping costs make this a toy for the wealthy if you live overseas.

@hector nadal False on all points. The frame is the classic tadpole trike design that has been used for years. US federal law defines this as an electric assist bicycle that is legal in all 50 states. Some local laws for trails vary but at least 99% of all US roads (but never interstate freeways) are legal for using the ELF. Two companies have sold over 1,100 of these and three ELF owners have gone on 4000 mile cross country trips. I have used my ELF every day on all local roads and bike trails for the last 4 years since getting rid of my car. The local Florida cops and sheriffs like my vehicle. This is a new industry and sustainable transportation design that is here to stay. Personal cars are already obsolete due to our climate emergency, you just don't know it yet.

In the US, all electric assist bikes are limited to 20 mph speed by federal law. Bicycles with no electric assist are slower going up hills or into the wind.

OrganicTransit.com

She has a Facebook page. Sh's working on a book about her 4000 mile journey. facebook.com/Hannas-Dream-Ride-771762409598544/ The first to complete a 4000 trip was a Canadian who made a movie about it. Sustainable Joes offers that movie on RU-vid. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OAYbM_n8_Zo.html

Sorry that is incorrect, these are sold to seriously disabled people. You don't have to pedal. This can mean priceless freedom for the disabled.

Small company, huge shipping costs. Start building your own now. You have the sun for great solar powered vehicles.

That has not proven to be a problem, not a single owner has been injured in actual collisions so far. You are just chicken.

Is good to hear.

It has a key lock for the power system. It can be cabled/chained to anything just like a bike, the brake rotor can be locked with common disc brake locks, a motion detector alarm of a hidden GPS tracker make security easy. Only two of 800 have been stolen, one recovered. The one not recovered was not locked by its owner.

The 4 wheel bike is not legal in the US under federal law without license and insurance. The design you seem to favor will not take a passenger or 24 bags of groceries. It does not have a 550 pound payload capacity like the ELF which is the SUV or heavy hauler version of a velomobile. The ELF weighs 45 pounds less than the new competing vehicle by better.bike called the PEBL. The ELF has front suspension and the 3 inch fat tire option that give a smoother ride in regions where it is useful. MY ELF IS IN FACT AN EXTREMELY USEFUL FULL CAR REPLACEMENT that I have been using every day for the last 4 years. I'm too old and fat to climb in and out of a bathtub design, not an option. Since getting rid of my car 4 years ago I have saved $12,000 US which is much more then the ELF cost me. I have hauled 14 one gallon jugs of water, frozen turkeys, cases of beer, 6 one gallon pots holding landscaping shrubbery, and my trailer has hauled an air conditioner, 2 propane tanks, or 2 garbage cans full of leaves or recycling. The body shell of the ELF has been wind tunnel tested to prove that it only creates the same wind drag as a man on a bicycle. The ELF has two door styles available. Full enclosure is a mistake, we over heat and the windows fog. Rain falls down, not up, so I am happy with my partially open floor. Any more incorrect statements you wish to make?

The ELF is good on hills because we combine motor and pedal power.

+victor larraondo The government limits the speed of an electric assisted bike.

+victor larraondo The solar panel on this ELF can be had on Amazon for $200, it just a flexible solor panel, nothing too high tech or expensive. In fact this is one of few vehicles that can charge entirely off of solar built into the vehicle. I'll tell you this brother, if for any reason gasoline becomes short or there is some kind of war in the Middle East stopping gas from coming here, your Mini Van will be good only as a spare bedroom, while this ELF will get up and go everyday.

victor - penny wise and pound foolish applies here. You pay at least $3000 more each and every year to drive cars. Mine paid for itself in less than 3 years, I got rid of my car.

Incorrect. It has a key for the ignition and can be cable or chain locked, a motion sensor alarm added or a GPS tracker hidden in it. Also use a disc brake lock.

Just reach the pedals and understand road rules and defensive driving.

Not exported outside the US. And the copany closed during the pandemic. Used ELFs for sale can be found on Facebook owner groups.

No he does not, he is narrow minded with one track thinking. Blacksmiths hated the horseless carriage too.

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Safer than any bicycle.