Bill Cipher VS Discord IS NOT EVEN CLOSE... 

You have to think. Discord is the first to screw over an opponent even when he lost. He trapped bill in his old 2d world because he sacrificed himself to save everyone. Bill is ego after all, well played discord

The fact that Discord writes his letter explaining what happened to his friends at the beginning of the fight, which we see at the end of the battle, implies that he himself wasn't sure if he could actually beat Bill. But that didn't matter. Killing Bill was secondary, so long as he could distract him long enough to get him out of their dimension and back into the Nightmare Realm, he had alredy won in his own way. Its a great way to have both characters "win" without making either seem weak or stupid. Bill killed Discord, sure, but Discord got the last laugh. Overall, this is arguibly the best Death Battle *ever*

Fun fact: this battle was community chosen. Thus, some weird bits are inside jokes in the community, like Tai Lung being in the background and the people flying out of the portal in the fight. The Bill Cypher full names are even scrambled names of people in their discord.

Bill won the Matchup and the Battle, But Discord won the War saving his Home and Friends from Bill's Chaos. Such amazing writing. Also the Track Slaps

You gotta admit, the voice work they did for this fight was amazing. Both competitors had voices that were well on point. Especially Bill. Also the fun part of the breakdown is that you can see them writing in the background, purple for discord and of course yellow for Bill.

The best part of this match is that Discord sacrificing himself to save everyone is 100% in-character. Plus he'll eventually come back, while Bill is trapped forever.

Keep in mind, Discord kept Bill at a stalemate, and possibly could have done so indefinitely despite making it all up on the fly, AND being distracted with an ulterior goal. The fight itself was a secondary concern of his at best, because while the fight was ongoing, he used it as a distraction to construct an illusion of multiple layers across multiple dimensions, to not only maneuver Cypher back into the rift without him noticing and seal him there, but completely reconstruct, from scratch the entire MLP multiverse from the damage of Cypher's wierdmageddon, which of course includes untold countless numbers of resurrections. That was always Discord's goal from the beginning, as evidenced by the note he wrote before even starting the fight that Fluttershy found just as the rift sealed. Cypher was fighting semi-seriously; Discord was fucking around to keep his attention, and making it up as he went along while his full attention was focused on being a literal creator deity beyond Cypher's gaze. Lose the battle, win the war.

This is technically a win for Discord as he can come back as long as enough chaos is generated, leaving Bill trapped

I still liked the general fact this is arguably the few times where the winner gets screwed over as well. Because this is definitely one of those situations of, "I may have lost, but I still get the last laugh."

When Discord “dies” his Chaosreleam is still active and will regenerate Discord back to life but it takes a very very long time. Or he might left a copy of himself in the Chaosreleam.

This Episode was PEAK DEATH BATTLE!

The DB team cooked so hard this year, it's insane what they accomplished with these fights.

This episode actually got made because of the fans. They held a poll to decide 2 match-ups and Bill vs Discord was the 2D choice.

I feel like even from the beginning of the battle, Discord probably knew he was a dead man walking, so instead of going for the kill. he spent the time taking bill for a joy ride and reseting equestria at the same time that's why he left them a note. And Bill has a tendency to get fixated on a task, so while he can see the future, he's not gonna use it more than to figure out how to kill the pest in front of him

19:50 because someone else being potentially more powerful and chaotic doesn't mean anything to him. He only lost his powers when he stopped being chaotic. Bill is a hyper powerful character that thrives in Chaos, Discord is the literal embodiment of it.

Where did Nux get the idea that if somebody is more chaotic than Discord can be, he fades out of existence? I don’t think that’s in the canon

Love that I'm not the only one that can't hear discord without thinking of the living tombstone

Discord went into this fight knowing he would lose. A little heart breaking to realize later but the animation, personality and ending to this death battle definitely is in my top 3

I love the ending where Discord saves his friends by trapping Bill. Bill won the Death Battle, but Discord won the real battle. Such a nice way to end things, which I hope they do a little more often. Have the looser be the winner in a sense.

This is one of Death Battle’s Pyrrhic Victories. Sure Bill won the battle but at what cost? His plans of weirdmageddon are foiled and he’s trapped in his old home for awhile until someone else makes a deal with him

This is about as close to a tie as it gets. Discord died, but he saved his world from Bill. Bill killed Discord, but was sealed back into the nightmare realm. Overall, I say Discord wins. He went into that fight knowing he might lose, so he made his main goal sealing Bill away, while taking every opportunity to kill him if possible.

Nuxanor has gone through some character development. At first, he criticized and disliked death battle, and now he watches it normally.

Bill: I'M AN ALL SEEING GOD!! Also bill: never sees he's being played, both in this and in canon.

Nux: I feel this is super close The thumbnail: it's not even close

Bill won the battle but lost the war

Unfortunately Discord wasn't able to wield the power of friendship in the fight since it was a 1v1, but that power will ensure he comes back to life later. Course if he was allowed to use the power of friendship all he had to do was sub in Pinkie at the end of the fight who's power over the 4th wall surpasses both of them.

To be fair, there were some theories once that King from the Owl House is a reincarnation of Bill. He's got the same voice, he's 8 years old in a show that takes place 8 years after Gravity Falls within the same multiverse, he's in the body of a creature that (with enough time) will receive godlike powers, and King's also a bit of a chaotic gremlin himself.

My Little Pony was always about friendship. Even when there were... Dragonball-esque fight scenes. Yeah, that happened. It only makes sense they'd befriend the unfriendable (is that a word?) and he'd just go along with it

This was the best battle win of them all. Both sides won in their own way, but one side still won the death battle. It shows proper respect to both sides in a great way and makes both sides of the fandom happy. If they keep this up they'll def redeem themselves over the mid seasons for sure.

This is literally one of Death Battles new Magnum Opus's

You do realize that Discord still managed to screw over Bill even if he lost, right?

This fight is a no contest. In Discords favor. Think about it. Both of them effectively have perfect knowledge about the other and godlike abilities within a reality, but Discord has free and easy access both for himself and others to cross dimensions where Bill is confined to them. Snap, they're in a pocket dimension. Snap, the dimension no longer exists and Bill is deleted from reality.

Since this DB episode has such a good track, I'd actually love to see Nux go over the Death Battle tracks and rank them for a video.

Now that we've opened up the pony pandora's box, I think Nux definitely needs to watch Deadpool vs. Pinkie Pie, just for the lulz.

Everything barring the verdict was peak.

I agree. This is one of my favorite death battles. They took a pair of reality warpers and reached a conclusion that, almost paradoxically, makes perfect sense. (I'm also just a brony sap that loves how Discord preserved his friends' dimension at the cost of his life)

Can Bill destroy spirits? Because that's the biggest sticking point in this Death Battle. The only explanation they have is the "death" of Xyler and Craz, two characters that only exist because they're in a dreamscape. They are certainly *not* spirits, as they are only figments of Mabel's imagination. Beyond that, Bill has only once proven to be stronger than someone else in their own minds, and that's Blendin- and we have *no idea* why that is. He lost to Soos, Dipper, and Mabel once they learned they can use their imagination to boot Bill from Stan's mind, and Bill is unable to stop Stan even as both of their minds were being erased. The only thing he's seen doing with spirits is when he pulls Dipper's from his body, and it's heavily implied that the only reason he can do it is because Dipper unwittingly phrased a deal with Bill that made Dipper into a puppet for him. Despite it being one of the best Death Battles, Discord should probably have been the one to win. There's no real explanation as to how Bill was able to remove Discord from his mind and seal him in place. I appreciate that despite everything, they kept both characters consistent with their canonical counterparts and they didn't just have Discord go without a fight.

I LOVE the voice acting in this they don't just sound like them but...SOUND like them ya know? They got the personality and the mannerisms too even having a kiddy charater like discord say "die" feels so in characters.

Discord canonically got that Fluttershy-ussy 😂😂 He wins

Death battle is over 10 year old. So many battles. Nux better have a list of battles to watch

While I enjoy the Death Battle and even probably one of my favorites for this whole season of absolute bangers, from what I have been informed of by others, they actually really undersold/misinterpreted Discord and he'd likely be able to get a very easy victory. I mean simply put, Discord has not only disappeared but reappeared by two people simply bickering and he'd likely be just as if not even more empowered by Weirdmaggedon than Bill due to the sheer amount of unbridled chaos he causes. It's like a fire god going against the primordial embodiment of fire whose empowered by even the faintest spark of heat. However I really enjoy the story in the fight and the how in character it is for both of them, plus the comedy is on point. The fourth wall breaks were cool, I enjoyed it since they did it in a manner distinct from their age old annoyance Deadpool. Part of me wants to see Nux watch the Deadpool battles now though

Bill Cipher was reborn here... AS NUX TAKU!! I'M ONTO YOU! YOU SHALL SUFFER FOR DECAFFEINATING COFFEE, YOU BASTARD!!

I like that you're having more fun with these Nux.

Maybe deep down Discord knew he had no chance of winning, so he at least made sure Bill wouldn’t get the last laugh.

I remember the bill statue, it was a whole arg that lead you to a set of coordinates which was where the statue was, though i dont think they were legally allowed to leave it there so it was removed

I’ve been waiting for this, can’t wait to see your reaction

This is one of the best fights Death Battle has made in terms of plot and animation

I've said it before and I'll say it again; this is easily my favorite Death Battle so far. Now I'm hoping the Berserk fan in Nux can be persuaded to watch Guts VS Dimitri.

Now that Death battle was cute and fun! really well done just wish maybe the fight scene was a tad bit longer but this was a really good on!!❤‍🔥

Can’t wait for nux to eventually get to Popeye vs saitama that episode had some peak animation

This episode has to be by far the most EPIC death battle of them all, even though its not a draw, it was beautifully written for how it would’ve gone and it was executed perfectly

Best part of this deathbattle is this battle is one that even with this result, you can argue with both winning still. It came down to personality. And even then, you could argue both parts going for the kill.

Is not even close, for Bill, they had to invent a weakness for Discord, we are prettending that destroying Discord "Spirit" is the same that destroying his "soul" or even destroying him as a concept, the example they provide didnt even work like that, Discord body was exiled from the school, not destroyed, that is why he came back as a Ghost, implying that his body is over there in some part of Equestria, meaning that Discord Ghost and body can be is 2 parts at the same time, which is not that crazy because Discord showed already having multiple bodies at the same time. And in a top of that we are prettending that Bill have Soul regeneretion when the set up was in a dream, so, Dipper have soul regeneration too? He regenerated too in that example, Why we are implying that is soul manipulation instead of dream manipulation? The only beigns Bill destroyed inside Stan Mind was fictional characters from Mabel dreams, not real people. Prettinding Bill having Soul Manipulation and regeneration is very obvious right? But pretending Discord could regenerate his spirit is too crazy? He could just regenerate his physical form whenever he want, in the MLP episode he doesn't because his body was exiled from the shcool. The real Discord Weakness are power stealing abilites, the elements of harmony, and exile powers (Which should be strong enought to exile more that just his physical form), I don't see Bill with access to any of that. The more boring one would be forcing Discord be normal, which is the more effective one agaisnt Discord, but doesnt work in this set up, because weirdmageddon would prevent Discord from disappearing. Another dumb thing they compare the capabilities of the Unicorn Hair with the Grogar Bewitching Bell, which obviously are not at the same level, we are comparing a Shield which passive feat is stealing powers from a cursed totem, not even a monster or Bill Minion, with Grogar Bell which has the feat of stealing powers of beigns at the level of Discord and the princesses, the Bell was the only Bill wincon, because he could stole it from Discord and using agaisnt him. We could claim that Bill can resist power stealing from Grogar Bewithcing Bell if you wish, but there is not information of Bill having that resistance at that level. Discord in the other side, could Teleport Bill to somewhere else, like in the fight, or hitting Bill with a move of the same level of the Quantum destabilizer, which is claiming strong enough to defeating Bill, Discord could forced Bill inside of the mind of one of his clones and destroying himself. Bill weaknesses are very clear and in more disposition to Discord exploit it.

2:34 this is probably a reference to the fandom putting Tai Lung in the most batshit insane and weird matchups possible-

As a Massive Death Battle fan (who doesn’t mind your react content to DB), here are some recommendations of Death Battles you have not seen yet. My personal favorites that I think you would like Guts Vs Dimitri Darth Vader Vs Obito Obi-Wan vs Kakashi Sauron Vs Lich King Harley Quinn Vs Jinx DIO Vs Alucard Goku Black vs Reverse Flash Solid Snake vs Sam Fisher Ganondorf Vs Dracula Saitama Vs Popeye Samurai Jack Vs Afro Samurai And (potentially) Glactus Vs Unicron when it releases in 2ish weeks Obviously there are more, but this is a good list of both Peak DB content and battles I think you would have at least a decent interest in. I think it’s cool you do your research beforehand so Keep up the good content

Fun fact: this episode wasn't chosen by the team. They let the fans vote for an episode and the fans chose this

I waited so long for this

This is one of if not my favorite death battle ever they got everything perfect

This is a greatest death battle ever, I also want to request a another battle. Between Stitch VS Rocket Racoon, or my personal favorite Steven Universe VS Star Butterfly

Tbh Bill is neither more chaotic or would be giddy about this fight. Bill has one of the most easily annoyed egos I've ever seen. He's constantly losing his mind and having tantrums like a godlike child, DB was pretty spot on in terms of his character

The saddest part was Fluttershy calling out to Discord! My heart was destroyed when I first saw that! 😭

4:17: EXACTLY! THANK YOU! WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP SAYING I'M GENOCIDAL? I JUST WANNA PARTY! (-()

You can imagine my surprise when I found out this wasn't gonna be a death battle between two messaging boards/social media platforms, but instead a little triangle and a demonic horse... 😅

While I agree Bill would win the battle, I think they intentionally misinterpreted things about Discord. We know he can vanish if he himself stops being chaotic, but that doean't mean others can destroy his spirit. They also assumed he comes back as a spirit if his body is "destroyed", and used the Starlight episode as evidence...but at the end of the episode he (or the writer) confirmed he did the whole ghost thing on purpose for fun. His body wasn't actually deatroyed, he was pretending.

This battle definitely got all the budget. They managed to knock it out of the park with this one.

They did really well, but I think this fight would be a forever fight, without end, personally.

I wish I could see Nux's webcam so I can see him smiling from ear to ear with this awesome fight! 😁

Discord knew Bill could kill him, but not without still losing.

20:46: That's because Bill is getting serious and focusing on the fight.

Another episode you should check out is Cole Macgrath vs Alex Mercer. It’s an underrated episode that has a lot of love put into it for both series. I never even played either franchises and I still ended up loving it.

The thing is, even though they are fighting here, I think they'd actually be pretty good friends if they weren't. Just two chatotic creatures causing chaos in universes together.

I love the end when bill says “let me out or I’ll eat your dreams!” Out of no where, cracked me up.

“I’m more chaotic than you bill” spoken with all the confidence of that one image of a pug wearing the daredevil mask

They did Discord dirty here. Literally Discord gets stronger from Chaos. Everything in this battle should have made him stronger, them ending in the Nightmare dimension should have made Discord a fucking invincible God, and in the end Bill's powers should have, at every turn, done nothing but fuel Discord. Discord gets stronger from Chaos. Bill only gets stronger from Weirdmaggedon, WHICH ENDS AS SOON AS THEY ENTER THE NIGHTMARE DIMENSION. They did Discord dirty. Shit when you factor in the comics, WHICH THEY SUPPOSEDLY DO, Discord can defeat beings on his own level with chaos-based powers LIKE IT'S NOTHING. This match-up was a one-sided STOMP, but they gave that stomp to the wrong person. I mean shit, look at their feats. Bill needed help breaking through dimensional barriers. Discord does that for kicks. There is a vast difference in power between them just based on that. Bill should not have been able to even SCRATCH Discord. And their logic that Discord wouldn't have taken the fight seriously makes no sense WHEN FLUTTERSHY IS IN DANGER. Seriously, they put Fluttershy in danger and expect ANYONE to believe Discord would not take the fight seriously??? Even the ending they chose flies in the face of that. He might have been fooling around, but he took Bill seriously enough to get him out of Equestria. He knew Bill was a threat. How can they argue he doesn't take him seriously??? This death battle was awesome, but it pisses me off how dirty they did Discord. This should be like having Homelander fight Omni-Man. Similar powers, but one is just so much stronger than the other. He can even make 3D into 2D, Bill should have not been able to do SHIT against him. I'm so annoyed. XD Discord can't even actually die! As long as chaos exists, he will return! And for Bill?? They gave his powers a boost. His regeneration is not accurate. It takes a while for him to regenerate his eye, he says so himself. And the fucking unicorn hair barrier??? What, because it doesn't work on Bill but works on an inaminate object he beought to life, this means the Bewitching Bell wouldn't work on Bill??? How does that make any sense??? The Bewitching Bell can work on Discord, a being capable of everything Bill is AND MORE, the idea it wouldn't work on Bill is LUDICROUS. We also have no proof Discord's spirit can't regenerate. The example they use of that is him denying his nature, literally him erasing himself, not being erased by someone else. And it's not his spirit that was fading, it was HIM. We've never even seen Discord in spiritt form take damage. How can they claim Discord can't regenerate in spirit form when nothing has ever harmed him in that form???

Love the episode, definitely my favorite of the season, and one of my top favorite fights on the show, but man they did Discord dirty with the conclusion lol. They say he can’t regenerate his spirit, even though he does just that in the same episode they showed him being “erased” by coming back through chaos. They also say the Bell wouldn’t work on Bill, even though the barrier doesn’t nullify magic, it turns things back to normal, so the Bell should still be able to work on Bill. And most egregiously saying Discord wouldn’t take the fight seriously despite Discord having fought a reality warper with similar powers and personality to Bill and taken her very seriously, especially with them giving Discord prior knowledge on Bill. Still love the episode, but Bill didn’t deserve that win.

this is an amazing choice for a death battle

23:06 "this stale mate is getting dull how about a different game" "Sure I love checkers" throws chess peice at him "Go fish" had me dead💀💀💀

I think we can safely file this under "Pyrrhic Victory." Won the battle, but lost the war, y'know.

Only DIO vs Alucard and Saitama Vs Popeye come close to this episode love it so much.

11:10 - lol at Nux flipping out at Wiz and Boomstick "not" mentioning Bill entering our world despite the phrasing (AND that photo of the Bill Cypher statue from the ARG) making it quite clear the show's writers were just being cheeky about it. XD

Amazing video

The Soundtrack is also such a banger. I remember when the video dropped months ago, definitly worth watching in class

> Battle is literally blow for blow equal with singular deciding factor in Bill's favour > Animation portraits this fight as even a loss gonna be a victory for another in both ways Nux thumbnail will anyway include "not even close" or "unfair". Like come on bro, one of episodes was an actual tie and he still used this clickbait shit.

Death Battle actually got several things about both Discord and Bill and their powers wrong. Truthfully, Discord should have had this battle in the bag. Bill's reality warping powers aren't on par with Discord's, and he faces far more restrictions and limits on his powers than Discord does, who can do several things that Bill either can't or require additional outside power sources to match. Even the way they had Bill defeat Discord was circumstantials, as Discord didn't to revert to a ghost form (he never died), they just made him do it just because. BTW, I'm saying this as someone who likes Bill a LOT more than Discord.

Super glad this won the poll

This is the earliest I've seen a video posted 😭

Bill can destroy spirits while Discord can create portals to other dimensions without effort, something Bill can't even do without help. Truly a fitting ending!

I think there was a slight problem with their conclusion in how Discord disappearing worked, call me bias, Discord was fading because of his own actions, he himself was not being true to his chaotic nature, not because of outside influence. personally I cannot vouch for his ability to beat Bill (Haven't watched the show) however given Discord and Bill seem very close in power and similar in scope, I think at best it is a draw on either side, Bill may be able to "Kill" Discord, but Discord might just as likely reappear after a toon like pause, like showing up at his own funeral, giving his own eulogy. However Discord has the means and a way to access the knowledge needed to trap Bill in a different dimension, as he did in the Death battle.

11:00 "Here, bro! That's the whole statue thing!" Nux doesn't know the definition of 'reincarnation.'

Bill might have won the battle,but Discord have won the war and trapped bill But tbh Discord is immortal, because as long as their is chaos,their is discord

Bro this whole season has not missed and its amazing

This is my favorite death battle

It's one of my favorite death battles of all time🤩

For some clearance, the theory is that the form that Bill has taken is actually Stanford Pines and that there never was originally a Stanford Pines until Bill was defeated or in a way a self fulfilling time loop. The statue is something that Bill put into our world and is using the body of Stanford Pines to give him access into our world. As is said he has multiple things going on in his head so a being that exists and doesn’t exist could execute 2 plans at the same time, at 2 different times to gain some fun when he gets bored of their world.

The fun part is that even if Bill escapes the dimension, it'll take millions or even BILLIONS of years for him to do so. And since Discord cares for Fluttershy above all else, he at least ensured that his one true friend and their friends are safe til they die of old age. And odds are given Discord also likely told them what happened and who Bill is in the letter, that gives horse world millions/billions of years to prepare for the triangle by the time he returns. In other words, while Bill technically won the DB because of the rules of the thing, Discord all but ensured total victory by the end in every way he cares about. Plus if/when he reforms with enough chaos, even this "death" won't matter. So Discord gets the laugh last no matter what in the end.

There's a lot of theories about how and in what form Bill Cipher survived. He survived somewhere in Stan's subconscious. He is trapped in the memory eraser canister or the statue. He traveled to our world. He escaped Stan's mind with Axolotl's help and will return in a new form. My favorite theory is one of the more outlandish ones. Axolotl decides to ironically reincarnate Bill in the past as Stanley Pines. It feels kind of silly but it also feels really poetic and it matches Axolotl's poem from the Curse of the Time Pirates (a non canon book containing "one enormous 'canon' secret" which is almost definitely the poem). Sixty degrees that come in threes. Watches from within birch trees. Saw his own dimension burn. Misses home and can't return. Says he's happy. He's a liar. Blame the arson for the fire. If he wants to shirk the blame, He'll have to invoke my name. One way to absolve his crime. A different form, a different time. The most direct way to absolve Bill's crime is to reincarnate him as the same person who willingly gave up everything to stop him. Stan and Bill saw Stan's mind (dimension) go up in flames. Stan was arguably the arson of that fire while Bill was the one to blame. Stan left home and couldn't return but he was clearly depressed about it but often pretended that he was completely happy. Sixty degrees that come in threes clearly refers to him being a triangle but could also mean that his character will do a 180 and go from a villain to a hero. Outside of the poem it makes a lot of thematic sense. Stanley has all of Bill's worst character traits but he also has a loving family who help make him a better person. It's a ridiculously outlandish theory but I love it and to me it makes more sense than Bill coming back as a villain. At some point this theory gained a lot more popularity and got nicknamed the Same Coin Theory because Stan and Bill are two sides of the same coin.

i was wathcing this and he kept going like "man i cant wait!!" while consantly pausing the video- like you have the solution to see what happens sooner lol

You should watch The Vile Eye's analyzing Evil of Bill Cipher. It gives a breakdown of Bill's character and explains his secrets in gravity falls.

I love the song they have for the fight, easily one of my favorites.

This is fucking great… it’s chaotically amazing and just the best kind of mind fuck fight