the bison statues out front need to be as big as they are shown in the rendering. Hopefully they dont get shrunk down to the size of the other buffalo statues all over erie county
I like the idea that the stadium concourse will be protected from the weather. Doesn’t matter if there is no dome because teams like New England, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Green Bay, Cincinnati, Baltimore also play outdoors.
We have to remember, that $500M CBA is over 30 years. That's less than $20M/year. Several players average more than that per season. It's not $500M up front. It's also about twice the annual operating costs for the Pegula's yacht.
Great video as always. I am from Buff. You do a good job on your stuff and I sure hope your video takes off. Might be a good idea for you to share it on some buffalo pages.
The Kingdome: Seattle, Washington Candlestick Park: San Francisco, CA. The Omni: Atlanta, Ga. Fulton County Stadium: Atlanta, Ga. Cleveland Stadium: Cleveland, Oh. Old Comiskey Park: Chicago, IL. Tiger Stadium: Detroit, MI. Memorial Stadium: Baltimore, MD. this next year in 2024 all always make a deal this week.
great video my guy! would love to hear stadium breakdowns of other cities, I'm from Seattle (go hawks!) but really enjoy hearing all these other great venues being discussed to detail. stadiums always caught my attention in terms of design ever since I was a little kid and that love has never left :)
Fans want the game day conditions to stay the same, that’s fine, but if there’s any complaining about missed field goals or “bad” throws from the Bills in these blustery, gusty winter games, don’t know what to tell ya.
Buffalo itself is a "small market", but well within reach of Toronto, which is a HUGE market. There are plenty of NFL fans in Southern Ontario who gravitate toward the Bills because of 1) proximity to the border and 2) recent success within the league. And as far as NFL teams close to Canada go, Buffalo and Detroit are about the closest, with Seattle being within fairly easy reach too. But I say all of that to say this: the NFL is looking to increase its reach internationally, and though Canada isn't exactly international in the same sense that England and Germany are, there are plenty of companies that would likely like to contribute to the NFL and get their brand out there. I think this is an area where perhaps the NFL in conjunction with Pegula Sports and Entertainment could get creative is agreements with some larger Canadian companies like Rodgers or Tim Hortons or Labatt, the last two of which already have a strong presence in Buffalo/WNY to broaden the NFL throughout Canada, while contributing money to the stadium. It would be a win for everyone involved
The league is perfect right now. 32 teams. The divisions are even at four teams a piece. There are no new teams coming into the league unless a team moves. Adding a new team without removing one that is current is impossible to maintain the current league structure.
You went on and on and on without stating exactly what your idea was Chris. Abd everything you said, local fans in Buffalo, and the league officials already know. So what is your idea? What do you want to happen?
@@johnnyt316 money is a barrier. Toronto and Southern Ontario has money. A large number of Bills fans live in Southern Ontario, and businesses want to do business with a winner. So, it makes sense that Terry Pegula (a savy businessman) could make deals with other savy Canadian business men and women to become partners in the Bills and maybe the NFL at large.
Buffalonian and Bills fan. I'll say it. I am not sure that "snow and cold" are that great a benefit to a Josh Allen style, pass-the-ball-around offense. As a previous season ticket holder who has "aged out," I think Buffalo fans and the Bills are acting tough -- "we want snow/cold/wind/insufferable weather." Ask Josh Allen privately, I'll be he'd prefer a loud 60 degree, no snow, no rain stadium. Let's stop kidding ourselves, build with a dome!!!
I like that the stadium concourse will be protected from the weather. Doesn’t matter if there is no dome because teams like New England, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Green Bay, Cincinnati, and Baltimore also play outdoors. We must remember that $500M CBA is over 30 years old. That's less than $20M/year. Several players average more than that per season. It's not $500M upfront. It's also about twice the annual operating costs for Pegula's yacht Buffalo itself is a "small market", but well within reach of Toronto, which is a HUGE market. There are plenty of NFL fans in Southern Ontario who gravitate toward the Bills because of 1) proximity to the border and 2) recent success within the league. And as far as NFL teams close to Canada go, Buffalo and Detroit are about the closest, with Seattle being within fairly easy reach too. But I say all of that to say this: the NFL is looking to increase its reach internationally, and though Canada isn't exactly international in the same sense that England and Germany are, there are plenty of companies that would likely like to contribute to the NFL and get their brand out there. I think this is an area where perhaps the NFL in conjunction with Pegula Sports and Entertainment could get creative in agreements with some larger Canadian companies like Rodgers Tim Hortons or Labatt, the last two of which already have a strong presence in Buffalo/WNY to broaden the NFL throughout Canada, while contributing money to the stadium. It would be a win for everyone involved the bison statues out front need to be as big as they are shown in the rendering. Hopefully, they don't get shrunk down to the size of the other buffalo statues all over Erie County Well, I finally went for the Jets game, and although I want to blame my bout with COVID on flying home after my resistance was wrecked from the freezing rain, I'm actually pretty satisfied with the actual experience. The food was good, the stores had all the merch you needed, allegedly I just had good luck with timing for the bathrooms and the stalls are alright (those troughs, though...)... to my mind, the one thing that really needs to be fixed for the experience is the wind, but I will admit if the rain were more persistent (it was heaven when it got cold enough to turn back into snow) the partial roof would come in handy. But don't spend the money on a full roof if it's not going to be used for, say, WrestleMania (and honestly I could see Mania or other types of events actually being held there, of THAT size, anyway. Mania IS in April, after all). Fans want the game day conditions to stay the same, and that’s fine, but if any is complaining about missed field goals or “bad” throws from the Bills in these blustery, gusty winter games, don’t know what to tell ya. 'A stadium for the few, a tax headache for the many' But, the Buffalo Bills needed a new stadium and hopefully, everything goes according to plan. Great video as always. I am from Buff. You do a good job on your stuff and I sure hope your video takes off. Might be a good idea for you to share it on some buffalo pages. Hi LaBreece TV: Thank you for all the videos. Great content. I wanted to provide some more forgotten stadiums that I would like a video on. Please see below. Oakland Coliseum: Oakland, CA. I know you did a video on Oracle/Oakland Arena, but the Coliseum by itself would be great! County Stadium: Milwaukee, WI Hope this helps! Please let me know if you get this comment. Thank you! I was hoping that it could’ve been built downtown, but it’s just ridiculously expensive out of towers that want to see the games still stay downtown. The drive to the stadium isn’t as bad as people say. I am from LA. Don’t talk about traffic. We have 8-lane highways where you drive 15 MPH. Every day…..for hours……. Any idea how many other stadiums offer standing room!?? I never even knew this was a thing? I would imagine tickets would be less expensive. And if the Bills offered this would the 5000 people mentioned be part of the 60,000 occupant estimate or in addition to? Put a CFL team in the new stadium to add additional dates for the new stadium revenue. Make allowances to fit a CFL field inside the new structure The new stadium would get 9 home games, guaranteed to host a Grey Cup game, creating an international rivalry between Hamilton and Toronto. Buffalo would be able to support both brands of Football "We need to pass and sign the bill so that we can read it"!!!!! Cheers.
4:36 "Buffalo is the city that plays home to the state's ONLY NFL team." Jets and Giants fans pump money into a stadium in a swamp in E Rutherford, NJ. We rep Orchard park so hard that our fanbase refused to move the stadium into downtown. And they listened.
@@716Tree Traffic for a Bills game along the edge of the state on the river in the "proper" downtown... it would take 6 hours to get in and out of the stadium. I'm perfectly fine with 3.5 hours how we have it now
@@robertfrost8264 They could've build the stadium on the outer harbor of downtown. I'm sure there plenty of land and space available on other side of skyway. Oh well, It what it is, the Orchard Park Bills! 🤷🏽♂🤷🏽♂🤷🏽♂🤷🏽♂.
I was hoping that it could’ve been built downtown, but it’s just ridiculously expensive. Out of towers who want to see the games still stay downtown. The drive to the stadium isn’t as bad as people say. I am from LA. Don’t talk about traffic. We have 8 lane highways where you drive 15 MPH. Every day…..for hours…….
Same boat 🦬 fan living in Philly…. All their stadiums baseball basketball hockey football are located in south Phila and 95 on a regular day is a mess game day much worst despite having multiple lanes and Phila infrastructure is better than WNY’s… I don’t even try to drive to baseball games if I’m going I hop on the subway… if anything Buffalo should invest in a more efficient form of public transportation that runs from down town Buffalo to the new stadium. 🤷🏼♂️ A trolley line, a regional path train these could be utilized by the public year round
@@kevinbauer130 The stadium will get used for homes games and maybe a few college games. It’ll sit empty the rest of the times. They are white elephants. Not like basketball and hockey arenas that go 7 X24 with wedding events, corporate events, restaurants, bars, art galleries, etc. The traffic to Bills stadium isn’t really too bad. Plus, people love to tail gate and that reduces the traffic. They’ve picked the easiest solution. Building downtown had more downside than upside and much higher cost for little benefit.
Most of us want a dome. That way you can use it all year & Make more money. If it's made see through you will still be able to see the snow or make it so it opens the dome as needed
Kathy Hochul's husband's company is doing this.. They raked the Native Americans again.. The Seneca are mostly paying for this... They have paid NY 5 times over for the gambling casinos.. They took away many of their bingos, Their pull tabs and have even tried to go after the Ciggs & Gas (No menthol) + tax.. As the seneca live on the Rez a lot of times in very run down pre-war homes or trailers. NY has been stealing the lunch money from the Seneca for many of years.. NY bullies the Natives. now they want to make up a new inspection cdc bullsh*t to mess with the weed (Legal Cannabis) To cause them more trouble. I see why the get fed up and burn tires on the thruway that goes right throught there land...And they dont get no ezpass fund kick back or hightway funds. It's not right and then to spend billions to build with no dome?? It will deteriorate at a much faster rate if it's not covered. Just put one on and make it so it opens.. And it should be called Seneca Staduim...Brought to you by who ever they fleece next like M&T bank or what have you. One dollar from every tix sold should go to the Seneca for nice clean affordable housing, Mixed housing and section 8 and tax free apartments (Subsidized) Housing.... IMHO js
Well, I finally went for the Jets game, and although I want to blame my bout with COVID on flying home after my resistance was wrecked from the freezing rain, I'm actually pretty satisfied with the actual experience. The food was good, the stores had all the merch you needed, allegedly I just had good luck with timing for the bathrooms and the _stalls_ are alright (those troughs, though...)... to my mind the one thing that really needs to be fixed for the experience is the wind, but I will admit, if the rain were more persistent (it was _heaven_ when it got cold enough to turn back into snow) the partial roof would come in handy. But don't spend the money on a full roof if it's not going to be used for, say, WrestleMania (and honestly I could see Mania or other types of events actually being held there, of THAT size, anyway. Mania IS in April, after all).
The "few" is actually the MANY - the Bills have a fan base that reaches all over the world and not just in Western New York - - fact check all you want the Bills are known all over the world but other teams like Tennessee and Jacksonville, Seattle are not.
Any idea how many other stadiums offer standing room!?? I never even knew this was a thing? I would imagine tickets would be less expensive. And if the Bills offered this would the 5000 people mentioned be part of the 60,000 occupant estimate or in addition to?
I like how they remodeled the stadium several times. But now the owners probably blackmailed the state of New York to pay for a new stadium. If you don't build us a new stadium, we will take the team to Idaho or Montana.
Honestly if this doesn’t happen the next likely situation would be moving less than 2 hours north to Toronto the fourth largest city in North America. The amount of money would be insane
I hope they take lessons from the packers. Theres a museum, restaurant and they host different conferences at Lambeau. If the Bill's can make it a "destination" for other things than just football, would go a big way in making the cost less gut wrenching.
The Bills play better in a dome. They looked much better in the games at Ford field. They are not from Buffalo. Or WNY. They don't enjoy playing in the snow or in bad weather. Not an advantage to this type of team.
Hi My Brother's!!! I was arrived first time it's 1989season that was the last Golden the Marv Levy The R.Willson stadium!!! Now we're watching the new generation 😀🤣 I Nice to be there by a new Stadium!! Don't give up forever Bills ☺️☺️☺️ Let's go back to the Golden age again!!! A thru fan from HUNGARY!!! Good Luck everything Thanks
Adding all the new things is just nuts, all the stuff they want to add makes more taxes for WNY does this mean they are gonna make it a publicly owned team like Greenbay or are we just going to pay more money to sit in a stadium that we payed for?
it's the rock pile. Just like that place was at the end. It is nothing great. Built cheap and it looks like what they paid for it to be built. It's glorified UB stadium.
And put it where people can walk to bars, shops, restaurants, casinos, hotels, attractions etc. Or don’t do that and put it in the middle of nowhere with none of those things being possible. Very intelligent business decisions being made, lemme tell ya. Nothing like waiting 2 hours in a frozen parking lot for an Uber to take you to your hotel that’s also in the middle of nowhere.
@@axe2grind244 Hey Axe: tis logistically impossible to put it downtown. Not enough available room plus costs would double. I mean look at your list ---- nothing there. 2 dozen midlevel stores, eateries, gin mills. The pricey hotels, and facilities are used by out of towners.
@@axe2grind244 Would have to level a solid chunk out of the east side and build up around it for that to work. Unfortunately that would be racist and will never happen. So we have to put it in orchard park instead.
@@David-dx5wz Nobody gives a f about the East side and nor should they quite frankly. They looted all weekend so apparently they don’t give a shit about it either so who cares, level it. Imagine leaving a $2billion stadium and the only thing within walking distance is the Big Tree Inn and a Tim Hortons.
Put a CFL team in the new stadium to add additional dates for the new stadium revenue. Make allowances to fit a CFL field inside the new structure The new stadium would get 9 home games, guaranteed to host a Grey Cup game, creates a international rivalry with Hamilton and Toronto. Buffalo would be able to support both brands of Football
I was watching your video and it appeared interesting. I was impressed by what you presented. Two errors, NYC doesn't receive more money than western NY. In fact NYC had to sue Albany to get their share of money as provided by nys constitution. Second, Buffaloes are not native to this part of the world. Those statues in the drawing are Bison. Facts are fact look them up. No I'm not suggested that Buffalo change it's logo but people should know.
We used to sell out 80,000* seats then it changed to 70,000* seats, and now it's going to be around 60,000* seats. what about those 10,000 or 20,000 fans who still would have liked to go to the game. Taking away revenue from ticket sales and concessions by lowering the seat count. * Estimated seat count.
@@paytonszudzik5952 the Browns game got moved to Detroit because of 6 feet of snow. I thought that was more of a news story than just in the western NY area, guess not.
Hi LaBreece TV: Thank you for all the videos. Great content. I wanted to provide some more forgotten stadiums that I would like a video on. Please see below. The Kingdome: Seattle, Washington Candlestick Park: San Francisco, Ca. The Omni: Atlanta, Ga. Fulton County Stadium: Atlanta, Ga. Cleveland Stadium: Cleveland, Oh. Old Comiskey Park: Chicago, IL. Tiger Stadium: Detroit, MI. Memorial Stadium: Baltimore, MD. Oakland Coliseum: Oakland, Ca. I know you did a video on Oracle/Oakland Arena, but the Coliseum by itself would be great! County Stadium: Milwaukee, WI Hope this helps! Please let me know if you get this comment. Thank you!
The "people" who had an issue with state money being spent on the stadium are very few. And I live about 50 miles from the stadium. And from the people I've talked about with this (hundreds) only a couple had an issue with it. That's something the media made a big deal of, not the actual people who pay the taxes, like myself. We want to keep our team, and are willing to do what it takes to keep it. We aren't interested in being St. Loius, Oakland, or San Diego. This is a case where to media wanted the people to believe something so they had a story. Yet the people pushed back. Which is why you don't here about it around Buffalo anymore. The Bational media talks about it. But they just put words in our mouth, and speak for the extreme minority of us, like it's the majority. And an additional note (I'm a construction worker) the guy spouting "affordable housing" is just trying to make his rich friends money. That's what ALL "affordable housing" programs are in New York state. They are all scams to make the guy who owns the property richer by getting State grants to build unlivable apartments that cost way too much. Just look up what actually happens with these "affordable housing" grants... its disgusting. I've been on a few projects myself, and nobody should live in them. And usually nobody actually does. I know its off topic, but as somebody who has spent significant time working on "affordable housing" I get more disgusted and pissed everytime I do. Mainly because near the End you start to realize it's a scam.
As a fan of The New England Patriots, I applaud The Buffalo Bills for stepping up and doing the right thing for their fans and their community. This new stadium can only help to make the whole experience even better than it already is. I have never been to a Bills game in Buffalo, but from what I have seen on TV, it looks to be a great environment. Hopefully, if done right, the new stadium will make the fan base even more enthusiastic. If that is possible. But I have to say, Go Pats!!!
@@Doo_Doo_Patrol You will benefit, even if you don't like football. For one thing, it will keep The Bills in Buffalo, Orchard Park, and if they weren't there, I don't know how vibrant the "community" would be. The NFL brings a lot to every community that has a team, it is a big part of their identity. I'm sure there are lots of good things in the Buffalo area, but The Bills franchise is an enhancement.
@@bobschenkel7921 I like football and watch the highlights because, in general, the games are boring. I had season tickets once, courtesy of my friend's dad, the chief scout (who recruited O.J. Simpson from USC, where my friend's dad once played quarterback in the rose bowl (Bob Celeri). I was 12 then and I enjoyed and met some players at the after-game restaurant bar thing. I played little league football for a couple of years. I just don't think the bills need a new stadium. They have one. Such things should be built forever. There are more important things. As far as vibrant goes...I believe the community (not that there is one here) would be better off without football. People would go outside more and do healthy things, not gorging on pizza and beer and getting depressed when their heroes don't perform well. There would be fewer wives beat to shit and we could always have a baseball team instead, or basketball. Incidentally, my friend's father died of a heart attack when we were 13 because he was always stressed because the Bill sucked then and lost almost every game, in spite of O.J. His wife got drunk; the kids did drugs. The young girl of the family ran away with some nappy headed sailor dude and had a baby with brain damage. So, you may paint a rosy picture, but remember it is all in your head and not reality for everyone. Oh yeah, O.J. turned out to be a big time jizz bag and Nicole and pizza delivery boy were carved like pumpkins. You can't get more vibrant than that. Thanks for your input though.
I’m an eagles fan but support my fiancé and go to a lot of bills games…. Buffalo needs to ensure that they make the area to purchase concessions is at least 3 times bigger. Same for the bathrooms. Everything is just so small!
No formal binding agreements have been signed to date. This concerns me. The "renderings" are two pics, and two pics that don't match the narrative. This concerns me. As of now, the Bills are homeless for next season. This concerns me. Why am I getting the impression that Pegula & the NFL are going to pull a Modell here?
As a lifelong taxpayer in NY state I think it is criminal that Governor Huchel and her legislature would even think of giving close to a Billion dollars to basically a private company in her home town, with out putting it up for referendum vote by the taxpayers. There are a whole lot of taxpayers that couldn’t care less about football or any other sport and it is a well proven fact that these stadiums always cost taxpayers more than they return! This is one more gallon in the gas tank for our exodus as my family prepares to leave NY for a lees taxed safer constitution abiding state.
The only reason the state has the money for the funds they are providing if coming from the Seneca Nation from when they put a stop payment for all employees of the Seneca Nation through key bank and we just paid them everything in one lumpsum from the extended compact agreement that was originally supposed to be. Now the state has that lumpsum to try and make themselves look better but everyone doesn't know they held everyone's paychecks hostage including mine and my families until they paid them what was in dispute. So we had to go until then without funds from paycheck until the Nation did so! And that was over a billion dollars to the state. So in reality our people from the Seneca Nation gave the funds for the new stadium to happen!
If Erie County, the NFL and the Bills can't foot the bill, don't build it. They dont need anything nice in that tiny, desolate city. They have a college football team and pro hockey team, more than enough for a city of their size.
Because the Bears we used the stadium year-round. Soldier Field now is used year-round for events. Plus, the Bears will have a growing built up attractions around the stadium. And it will host Super bowls, the final 4. Big 10 championship games. Select games for Norte Dame as well as the U of Illinois. It will be more like So Fi and Cowboys stadium.
4:30 I think you're just a bit clueless about New York. New York City literally subsidized the rest of the state. The New York City Metro has a trillion dollar economy larger than that of Russia (with its oil and gas). It's actually money flowing out of New York City to upstate. 2023 NYC local budget $104 billion, 2023 NYS budget $220 billion (including NYC residences paying NYS taxes). Mind you the New York City tax rate is less than NYS. Won't be surprised if 90%+ of NYS budget came from NYC. And don't get me started on federal taxes. That's a whole different story. NYC and other large cities contribute a ridiculous percent into federal taxes and barely get federal funding. I'm a bills who lives in NYC but this was just a bad deal. More money sucked out of NYC
Without LA and NYC the US economy would not be the juggernaut that it is on the global scale. its pretty funny to watch people criticize these places as being too crowded or too urban for their tastes.
They need to put a dome on it that weathers got nothing to do anymore. We’re going to change Miami look at New England beat them in a blizzard in Buffalo come on put a dome on it. Or take up horse shows almost counts in that game.
Just as the guy is exiting his prime the stadium will be completed….that makes a lot of sense. Imagine leaving a Bills game and walking to a restaurant or a store or a bar or to your hotel instead of leaving a game, looking around and seeing none of those things, then waiting 2 hours for an Uber to your hotel that’s 10 minutes away that also has none of those things near them. Putting a $2 billion stadium in the middle of nowhere, great idea.🤦♂️
Obvious you haven't been to a Bills game nor understand the culture and traditions of the area. Bills game days are a way of life around here. It's more than a football game for many of us. Let's get rid of all the tailgating greatness, traditions, experience and ambiance that brings just so some bandwagon yuppies who might go to one game a year can go eat a Kobe steak 2 minutes after leaving their private club suite. Lmao. If you aren't from around here you will never understand. Why do you think the Buffalo Bills are always voted the top or near the top of best gameday experiences in the NFL...even WITHOUT all that extra crap you just cried about? You dont go to a NFL game, especially to a Bills game just to eat 5 star fine dining and relax at a swanky hotel lmao.
Went to my first game EVER last Saturday… We left 6 hours early just to experience the tailgating and pregame festivities. It’s an experience in itself. Why go to a restaurant when you can walk up to anyones tailgate and get a burger
@@mopar426power No I only pay Orchard Park property taxes, what would I know. $2 billion NFL stadiums do not belong in a residential suburban area with nothing around it. Leave a Steelers game and you can walk everywhere, leave a Bills game and walk to the Big Tree or ONeils....oh wow.
Josh Allen can and will be what LEBRON was to Cleveland sports area. Hopefully they build things like restaurants bars and hotels to enhance the event.
@@axe2grind244 you keep complaining about things that 90% of fans don't care about. It'll make the area better. And draw in more money in the long run. New things cost money. They just do. But it's a good thing.
Environmental studies are required by state and local law, especially with a project using public funds. With that being said there really shouldn't be any additional impacts because of the close proximity of the new stadium. it should be fast and simple!
@Harvard archaeologist Professor Sorry would you rather them level the fruit belt so they could put it in the ghetto, dirty, dangerous, part of the city where when there’s a blizzard it’s residents see it as a chance to loot every single store they can because police can’t get to them? Makes sense!
All downstate NYers are more than pissed about our tax dollars going to this. Let them move to Toronto, that city is too small to host and NFL team and the State shouldn't have to make up the difference. They are also taking money from Native people? If they want a new stadium, let them come down to E. Rutherford and triple up at Metlife. Upstate has been a wasteland for 50 years, this is just another Love Canal.
I bet New York City is getting billions of dollars in New York State assistance which go to low-income families and for other assistance programs. Giving some money to help build a stadium for the bills evens the playing field when it comes to money from the state.
You know nothing about upstate! I mean obviously you hate it, but guess what it is still New York State! And that native money is coming from a tribe in Western New York! So we will take and keep the money in our little wasteland in the western most reaches of New York State. And since that money more then likely came from mostly Western New Yorkers it’s fine staying here. Please do us a favor and go Drizzle your western New York somewhere else. Good Day and God Bless!
if the Bills ownership had half a brain, they would ask the Vikings for the blueprint for their dome and build an identical one in Orchard Park. This Bills team for the next 10 years would be way better in a dome, and with the way the NFL has been going the past 30 years- i.e., incredibly passer-friendly, an outdoor stadium is undoubtedly going to be a detriment long term.
KC has two gimme games left. We need to win @ Cinci. I'm not worried about NE at home. The Cinci game will be all but for the 1st or 3rd seed. Win, 1st. Lose, 3rd. Of all teams, Cinci scares me the most in the AFC. In the NFC, The Niners concern me most.
@@tedunderhill9718 gotta have faith on bills, and with a KC loss , who knows , that would help! None the less great season for a team with injuries , we got Beasley , hopefully they let him play full game
Perfect ... an open air stadium in an area that makes NO SENSE to have an open air stadium for a team whose logo is designed after the CITY and not the team name. " ...welcome to frozen disaster useless stadium , the home of YOUR Buffalo BUFFALOES !!! "
I hate to seem anti-Bills & like Im throw -ing a turd in the punch bowl..Im totally on board wth a new stadium🏟..But I.. along wth many fans & taxpayrs wantd the new stadium located downtown..& also be a retractable dome stadium..as the city & county couldve combined the new convention center project into it (do a 2-for-1 thing, so to speak)..The project couldve sparkd new additional economic development to the entire region..Nobody in our local govt has any long term economic vision..So so small minded..Parkng in Orchrd Park.. has gottn worse..If U arent in a lot by 11am.. U are missng the opening kick -off..U could be multiple multi-level parkng ramps..rathrthan sprawling lots..U hav more ways to leave down -town..Route 5 NYS I-190..the 33 Ex-pressway..The Metrorail🚇..City bus routes..Dont say theres no tailgatng downtown..Ive seen it down there for Sabres playoffs gams many times..Of course, the dome..Retractable..& U can still open the dome for the MIA Dec “Snow Bowl” that day, then close it back up aftrwards..Thats wat hom field advantage is..U can still hav both..the crowd noise & “Freeze Da Fish”..& wat many people dont know, is that there was, still is a building construction con -tractor who wouldve done the project, wth NO PUBLIC/TAXPAYER MONEY !! like LAs So-Fi Stadium (I was at both public stadium forums when they pitched it..back last October..& approx a decade ago, when a “new stadium” project was considered)..& for whatevr stupid stubborn pig-headed reason.. Sombody always wants a slice of that “money pie”..Our civic leadrs just swept that proposal undr the rug..& we end up payng for 2/3 of a project, we hav no say how its built or where it’s located..Had I won the huge Powerball Lotto jackpot (the $2B+)..a few months ago..I would’ve paid for the dome addition to the stadium myself..I still wish they/Bills-NYS-Erie Co..could wise up..& at least “cap”/dome tha Orchrd Park location...I just get so frustrated wth our state & local govts..They could hav done somthng really awesome to help our region, economically, long term..But they always screw it up..& we’ll realize in approx 30 yrs..we made a mistake & hav to fix it..for God knows how much..From the 33 Expressway (cuttng off neighborhoods)..to the I-190 (wastng beautiful riverfront)...We never realize how big a mistake it was ..til many yrs later..Now we’re spendng billions to fix those problems..I see this happening wth the new stadium..A very big regret latr on..wich was preventable ..by doing the downtown stadium project...
It's not going to be the same. 1st of all it's going to be PSL for season tickets. It's going to be a lot more charges and tailgating packages around the stadium. It's going to change the game day experience. Fans will be in for eye-opening differences. The NFL has changed from the ’70s. It will be gambling in a building in or next to the stadium. It's a big change coming.
Affordable housing? If it’s not in downtown East Aurora, you in the country and it’s less expensive than many areas. Health equity. Any more feather bedding going on?
Speaking as a Bills fan, we're all such blind homers that many people can't be objective when it comes to the team, stadium, city, etc. But even then, most Bills fans would've picked anywhere other than Orchard Park for the new stadium. Downtown, waterfront, falls, etc. would've all been much better for economic development over the middle of nowhere place it is now. It's being built right by the current stadium, and just look what's been developed there now. It's just suburbs & sitting right by neighborhoods, with zero chance to provide additional economic benefit to the area. In reality, the majority are just concerned it would take away the awesome tailgating if located elsewhere. Also, follow any Bills threads online & you'll see many fans would prefer a dome, it's just viewed as not being a REAL fan if you don't want to endure awful weather like our forefathers lol. But go beyond surface level arguments, and you'll see fans have come to notice our team is good when the passing attack is good, and heavy snow, wind & rain only hurt our team & help keep inferior opponents in games. Playing in the freezing cold is fine, but add those elements, and games become sloppy which hurts us more than it helps. Lastly, when funding consists of hundreds of millions of public funds (most in history until the Titans just edged it out), you'd hope the investment would be used for more than 8 football games a year (or only 7 like this year, due to bad weather). You'll get an occasional event or concert now, but without a dome, you're all but guaranteeing your hundreds of millions of public funds are invested in something that'll go unused for 350 of 365 days a year.
@@indianapublicland7429 Owners are largely putting in the PSLs, which is money from the fans. Taxpayers are putting in a lot more, if we're going to stick to facts.
