Billy blundell was told about the hit before it happened out of respect, it was his turf at the end of the day, and the murders would have brought alot of old bill in the area, something Billy didn't need...but the people they had upset were a big firm and billy didn't want to upset them so they was given the nod...that's why he tried to warn pat Tate before hand, he should have listened and he would still be here maybe
That's facts also Billy went to see Tate and begged him to calm down as he was like family to him. Drugs and rage took over Tate and he got delt with NUFFINK to do with the blundells
Yeah I know a major player from back in the day full of carisma but my mum always said their was a line 1 side he would do anything for you other side would do anything to you
You probably know this already. You've become very popular Ray and with that popularity comes two thing's, respect and the green eyed monster, jealousy. They will come out of the woodwork like termite the begrudges. You'll need your wits about you dealing with bad energy. Get some sage for you home,, great P, C, pal. Time to use the( head). ✌️☘️
Ray did you see pat Tate shit he’s self from billy blundell no you didn’t did ya take a leaf out of yammy b,s book and only comment on the dramas you witnessed yourself people will take more notice
According to Blundell himself that's Bill, when he called tate in and told him that he's going to go ,tate said if it happens it happen. Doesn't sounds like Tate was to bothered about Blundell.
Billy blundell thought very highly of Patrick he would have never had him hurt in no way,it’s just a red herring,billy looked after pat in Spain and they were great pals,I was great friends with Patrick tate for years and they had the upmost respect for each other
@@rambo235Do you remember a Irish guy called tripod I remember him demanding and getting his money back from Pat over Pat selling him a ringer and tripod was high profile. Why would you do such a thing to someone he knew so well. This man couldn’t be driving around in a stolen car. I suppose when drugs bite that hard into you all sense goes out the window
Bernard omahoney labelled them the essex boys after they had passed away.The blundells were friends of pat tate they put him up in Spain when he was on his toes
@@guttersnipe3246 a man who knows,I knew Patrick tate for years even went to the comedia club with him out in Spain,billy blundell would never have anything done to Patrick they were the best of friends proper friends,that scenario is a complete red herring and so is all the hype round Patrick,yes he had his troubles but deep down he was a top man👍🏻
Morning Ray from what I read the Essex Boys had a lot of enemies and many were relieved when they were shot up in the lane in Essex but please correct me if I am wrong as I only know what I read, I did know that a young girl died at a rave who was a policeman's daughter because she took a bad drug which was supplied and traced back to the Essex Boys also heard that there is some doubt about the killer and he may be innocent and that there is a lot more to the story than has been revealed Do not want to bore people but I have an interesting story about the last two women to be hung for murder, as everyone knows the last one was Ruth Ellis who shot her lover at the Magdala in South Hill Park in Hampstead I mention the street because lots of well-known people live there and it over looks Hampstead Heath on one side, the strange fact is that the women that was hung for murder before Ruth also lived in this street you could not make it up?
There is something rong with what thay say who shoot them think about what you said and think who would be able to shoot them just walk up to the range Rover Think yes your right
@@Crosshatch1212 Yeah ??, and what evidence do you have to back up this 100 , 100 ....." fact " , to come out with a statement like this you should at least give people reading it at least something to go on [ I don`t mean a name ] but something to give context , otherwise your comment is pointless .
Amphetamine coke??? If its got speed in it its not proper cold is it.. . I dont think any of the coke today is that good..not like a few years ago...before you'd be up all night on it..buzzing..now..after a few hours..theres no more effect...what do you think???
Its not made the same way. In the 80's when it was manufactured they used ether and acetone to refine it. They are solvents that refine the shitty alkaloids out of the paste. Makes a purer product. Its more steps and more expensive in the refining process. In the the 90's the U.S. made imports to latin america much harder and expensive to source. The producers cut corners and use a more crude method now. Thats why its cheaper to buy at source and more is produced. On top of that more cuts have been discovered to bulk out it.
Coke has never been stronger. It does depend where you are. The telly did a program. They tested the grammes that youngsters bought locally. The London girl thought she had the best. But the kid from Manchester thought he had 10% pure.... turned out to be 70 odd%. Never been stronger, records show.
Billy loved pat pat's mum's 1st cusion went way back with the whole blundell family. It was Billy that gave pat the money for the Amsterdam shipping. Behind books papers and bullshit Billy loved pat only misunderstanding they had is when pat coudent pay on time and they sorted it over a chat. FACTS ! FROM SOMEONE WHOS RELATIONS WAS ALL ABOUT THESE MEN
@@deanharding7730 I’m glad I’ve come across someone that actually no’s there stuff,again my friend your spot on,people forget the blundells put Patrick up in Spain and helped him out,they were like brothers
Pat Tate's firm tried robbing a cannabis farm but did not do their homework, it was part owned by Danny Woolard and one of Woolard's associated left Pat with a broken jaw, they never tried that again. Funny enough Danny Woolard was in the Rettendon area when they all got shot but said he was trying to rob a truck along with Nipper Ellis....
Tate would have been in the nick when the Raves were on by the time he got out it had been made illegal and moved to club's. Carlton had his West ham icf mates doing the security for Genesis then became part of Andy Pritchard's Genesis . Would love to know who actually pulled the trigger I don't think it was Mickey steel & jack whomes. Billy Blundell definitely knew who did it.
It was definitely them, Jack Whomes brother, who always claimed Jack was innocent, was recorded by Bernard O'Mahoney admitting that his brother did it.
Ray Iv just come across your channel bro Just taken a interest in the history and the underworld villians brillaint . Have you got a book or movie out mate ? I’d love to purchase them
thank you ray 4 your honesty in what you say i have had many of ya child life stuff i would like to buy ya book to help ya more is it done in answer to ya coment on why cant we rave now is that they changed the law so i think it is illegal to gather more than a certain amount of people on land they confiscate all equipment and fine the farmers hundreds of thousands and it is such a shamei i thought it was gonna change the world and as you say people loved each other and we were unitig and the goverment cant have that all the football violence stopped i was at sunrise at 6 when the sun just was dawning and they play the song the sun is rising and estimatted 25000 people came as 1 falling against firmed up poeple and they would catch you if you fell they picked you up and all you would do is look at them and they new you was rushing so hard and they were 2 it was a very missed oppertunity but i think it saved me from giving my life to the brullity you have suffered by a sadistic system if you do read this sorry 2 go on a rant thank you sir 4 the memory i never normally coment there are many people that i now that were doing your life charlie and crack still on crack heroin 32 years now thank you again sir keep on keeping on
@@bangbangrayhill2218I think someone else knows who could straighten all of it out but chose not to!!!!! Blood runs thicker than water. I totally believe Paul. He was heartbroken. It’s not in him to grass.
Just lately got to watching your channel Ray very entertaining. Be good to see you do a vid with Matt Legg as I think I heard you say you know him. What do you think of Matt's mate Norman Buckland? Do you know Norman?
Coz of the plod introduced the criminal justice bill......1994.......plus the ecstasy fell off at start of 93......Paul Aberdeen......RESPECT to ya ray