Billy Corgan Reveals How Close Paul Heyman Got To Taking Over TNA 

Yeah, watching a bunch of 19 year old Indy darlings LARP as MMA fighters while doing jobs to Daniel Bryan sounds awesome ....

I disagree with that

@@JoseRamirez-yh2ll well l don't

Paul is great at running the creative and deciding what the talent roster will be. But he's not good in any way of running the finances of the company and making sure the talent gets paid on time. If you can someone else run the business side of things for him than it makes a huge difference.

Don't bookers give orders??🤦

​@rondoughhowell6442 he didn't have funding. Nothing about being a business man.

Who the fuck is corrigan??

@EOINCHANNAN probably Corgan. My autocorrect changes it to Corrigan for some reason as well.

@@savagecatgt thank you, sir.

If Heyman's plan was to move to a more MMA style, Angle would have been their credibility while they built the brand. With Angle, Samoa Joe, RVD and a handful of really good strong-style guys from Japan, Heyman could have made a gradual transition to a more credible and sensible booking format while the rest of the boys adjusted their move sets or had time to find new companies.

You’re

TNA was fucking trash from 2005-2010 and was only good and entertaining from 2010-2012. That said, Heymans ideas were fucking stupid. "Let's hire a bunch of 19 year old Indy darlings and do scripted MMA. Daniel Bryan is going to be TNA's 5'5", 150lb Goldberg tapping everyone out with a fake MMA move until I have an unknown kid best him. Oh and pay me $5 million dollars per year and give me additional stock in the company." He had proven himself absolutely clueless.

It wasn't only her there were numerous people that had their hands in that pot no she didn't help at all but there were numerous problems including Vince Russo

Can't forget Hogan and bischoff oh and Kevin Nash also

@@willglenn-bl9gm Exactly that's my point while I do blame Dixie too I honestly think that she got in over her head and had all the wrong people in her ear and they took advantage of her not knowing anything about what was good for business and I'm not making excuses for Dixie but we all know how WCW went with pretty much the same people involved 🤷🤷

​@@willglenn-bl9gmYep, can't help but remember Bischoff and Hogan turning around TNA and giving them.their best numbers in their history.

Dixie killed it herself and herself only.

Nevermind. I found it.

not to wrestle. the guy cant move his neck

They'll pay him a snickers per taping

@@bojan1999 Kurt at the most would be an authority figure.

100%. He asked for too much control and for a piece of the company to come in because he knew they’d never give it to him. He wasn’t gonna do that unless he got such an extremely good offer that it was worth a hit to his reputation to do it. TNA wouldn’t even give a piece of the company and/or the control he’d have wanted to people like JJ who actually had ownership or Corgan who made a sizable investment into the company. So it goes to figure that Heyman knew that walking in without investing anything, while also wanting equity, control of the company and whatever other demands he asked for was never possible. So he put himself in a win-win position. Either he’d be able to save face like he has knowing that what he wanted he’d never get OR if he actually did get those things then it would’ve been worth the risk. And even if it did flop there would’ve been a plethora of excuses about why it failed anyways as we saw out of him with ECW. The man wasn’t good at business in the sense of profit and loss but he is masterful at selling his role and how he could’ve done everything under the moon if only he’d been given the actual opportunity.

Yeah, Heyman was creating a purely Meltzer fanboy geared Indy Fed with that idea. Absolutely horrendous and would have killed TNA by late 2009.

he paid them first he never got paid.

Ecw budget was far less than what tna had.

@@Micfri300 That doesn't excuse the fact that Heyman was sleazy and lied to his wrestlers time and time again saying the money is coming and never paying them. Some lost their houses because of it.

So Heyman was trying to "get rid of the Hogans" in 2009 when Dixie listened to his idiotic plan a year BEFORE Hogan was hired? Okay. But yeah, TNA should have stayed a 3rd rate Indy Promotion like AEW full of talentless hacks and WWE castoffs instead of a legitimate #2 promotion with their own homegrown Superstars like under Hogan and Bischoff. We can all give thanks Scott D'Amore "saved" TNA and took it back to running high school gymnasiums and National Guard Armories.

@@onewarriornation602 is it still in business? all Hogan and Bischoff did was turn it into a cash drain. And indie promotion what's so bad? the whole point of tna and roh back in the day was to be the showcase of best of the indies, in fact TNA was initially meant to be the national outlet of the NWA hence why it was called NWA TNA when it first started.

@@lewisb85 That's some nice revisionism right there. 1: TNA never turned a profit before Hogan and Bischoff. The Carter's were breaking even most years of not losing money and Jarrett admits he was losing money hence why he sold it. It was so bad that Spike TV was paying for over half the talent on the roster. 2: They started to turn the corner and turn profit during Hogan and Bischoffs reign. TNA Execs have openly admitted this. 3: It was never at any point the goal of TNA to be "the king of the Indys." It was created to be and openly bragged their goal was to take WCW's place and compete with the WWE. Panda Energy didn't spend millions of dollars to acquire TNA and Spike TV didn't dump millions of dollars into TNA for it to be a low rent Indy promotion full of talentless gymnasts.

Nah, she was pretty smart not giving Jim Ross that power and control. We seen what happened in Mid-South and WCW with JR running the show and hiring talent.

Except Hogan pushed the younger talent, TNA flourished with record numbers and it was going great until she promoted Pritchard to head writer and Pritchard intentionally ran it into the ground, but okay.

@onewarriornation602 Wrong, they crumbled under Hogan cause him and Bischoff put into Dixies head that they could compete with WWE and made her switch to Monday nights which was the worst thing they could've done, especially when your main event is older than dirt Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair

@@Gabe_Lopez They didn't crumble whatsoever. The numbers went from a stagnant 1-1.4 million viewers each week to 2-2.4 million each week. The numbers doubled, the sponsors got better and Impact Wrestling was on an upward trajectory. Neilsen Ratings Company could care less about regurgitated Meltzer bullshit. Sorry, not sorry..

​@@onewarriornation602wrong. The 2 million is their peak. Briefly their ratings increased but afterwards it declined. It declined from their peak 2009 ratings. You can still the charts. 2009 was their peak

@@ShubhamMishrabro Completely incorrect. Their peak was 2010-2011. The viewership number was consistently above 2 million throughout 2010-2012, an increase of double the viewers from 2009 when they were barely averaging 1-1.2 million.

Cornette spoke logic especially when he actually knows Heyman and how he thinks

TNA 2024 Let's Go!

Ya mean Don West(R.I.P).

Couple things. The talent hated the 6 sided ring. And Tony Schiavone wasn’t on TNA.

1: The talent themselves wanted that stupid ass six sided ring gone and hated it. 2: Tony Schiavone was never at any point an announcer in TNA. 3: Yeah, Hogan and Bischoff with those stupid changes like pushing younger talent and homegrowns like Storm and Rood. The numbers doubled but hey, they should have kept Jarrett burying everyone, Nursing Home Mafia burying everyone and kept booking every title in the company onto Perc Angle. That was working sooooo well.

@@onewarriornation602 i disagree about M.E.M. However they could've been booked better

I agree with you. I wont diss his skills on the mic but the only reason why his entertaining now is because he is controlled by the company. If he had full reign (no pun intended) I think he would be too brash, too obnoxious and out to prove too much of a point.

No it would have ben something new and maybe it would have went over

lol @ preferring Dixie Carter or Vince Russo booking over Paul Heyman booking. Who said Paul Heyman was going to be on tv? They were giving him the book. Dude knows how to book.

I agree he’s better than Russo and Dixie but his booking isn’t that far and away better. Paul has a tendency to start a story with no vision of the ending and some of his storylines just keep going on and on and on forever with no payoff or no planned ending. This has been true going back to his ECW days. He gets so caught up in the story that he can’t figure out how to finally pay it off. Again, absolutely agree better than Russo and Dixie but to think he wouldn’t have failed too is ludicrous.

@@jamesmiller5331 and​ @jamescooper3324 you laugh at the idea of anyone considering Russo's booking better but as head writer he gave the WWE their best ratings and ECW was a distant #3..wrestling fans today I swear lol inb4 "H-HE WAS FILTERED!!"