Click here for me interview with the former Police Lieutenant turned Private Investigator who was hired by one of the victims families to investigate these murders: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tY2SRU9TO20.html
I wanted yo hear the interview but it won't come up. I hope the boys families get justice. Who cared about the victims nobody the drugs and murder were more important. How sad no conscience or heart at all. Did the ones responsible die?
@@talleymatthews4434 I don't think they will get justice. Once Clinton became president, a lot of the Arkansas corruption related to this case ended up in the Federal government. The strange deaths were still happening when Hillary ran for president. If you read the book "Boy Clinton" you can start to connect how the boys on the tracks end up connecting higher. The ex-CIA head called the group the "Dixie Mafia" back then. He announced that he was going to release all of the information and I remember holding the paper talking about what he had found and thinking, "I hope he doesn't die in some strange way" and on the radio while I was thinking that, they announced that his canoe had been found. When retired CIA heads turn up dead, you know that the whole truth is probably never coming out.
@John Garrett An allergic reaction is the immune system perceiving a harmless substance as a harmful one, and causing problems for itself with a histamine release. Although, that's still nothing like the same as overdoing a CNS stimulant, histamines affect the respiratory system, not the heart. Perhaps you did have an allergic reaction, but as the psychoactivity of weed being a much more frequent reason for negative response, it's the first thing I'd assume. If antihistamines or adrenaline helped the symptoms, it could suggest the symptoms came from an allergic reaction, or the symptoms were psychosomatic in a patient who'd become convinced of an allergy.
It's not the first time he talks about this incident and he sticks to his story on pills or without. Everybody writes him off as crazy but as they say truth is stranger than fiction.
I definitely believe a version of the story. I one 100% believe police were involved, drugs were involved, there was widespread corruption and coverups.
I believe him. You just don’t throw your name into this double murder case. He is crazy but justifiably so. Poor guy had a nightmare of a childhood. In the cocaine game in the 80’s word gets around for reliable help in obtaining your cash/drugs/guns/territory
Also, I can tell you all a little known fact. I first heard of this case through some magazine ( don't remember the name ) shortly after it happened. I got interested in it, but there was very little info about it at the time because it was a recent event. Over the next couple of years, I saw another (2) articles about it. One was in High Times magazine ( yep, they actually had good journalists )& the other was a newspaper article printed in some other magazine. The day of the murders, some locals reported seeing a big guy on the railroad tracks & guess what? They said he was wearing a ski mask & carrying something in his hand. After Billy came out with this story, I didn't really believe he was there until I heard him say he was wearing a ski mask. I have searched hard since then on the internet & cannot find the old article. There is no possible way Bill Jack Haynes could have know this detail if he just familiarized himself with this case. Since all of the investigations and books and documentaries over the years, I have never heard about the guy in the ski mask again until Billy Jack said he was there and wore a ski mask. Proof enough for me. Not to mention, Linda Ives has been involved with private investigators this entire time, and she has pieced everything together & claims Billy Jack knew things that were never made public. I 100% believe him.
Yea a couple days after the kids were found there was a man spotted near the scene on the tracks dressed in camouflage. When police went to talk to him he shot at the cops and ran away... Its in the Wikipedia article about the boys.
Stop with the lies, a guy in camo fatigues was spotted in that area a week before the murders,then again after the murders and he shot at cops. No mask,no huge guy like your story and damn sure couldn't have been Haynes cus whoever stayed in Arkansas over a week
And Haynes story has changed since he first said he was there. His original shoot on it he said the cops had the kid's in the back of their car. This guy and Haynes are both full of crap
High Times did have some good writers back in the day! I mean, Legs McNeil ffs.... And many great feature articles. The "THQM" and "Top 100.," the "Bud of the Month" centerfold... it really was a cool magazine. I don't really believe this cat though.
Billy Jack could've read the same article that you did, though. Then inserted himself into the ski mask as part of the narrative. Makes it hard for anyone to call bullshit - it's a ski mask. Even if there were a guy in a ski mask, and that guy came forward and confessed, it would be nothing but conjecture and confusion. That's the mysterious allure of the ski mask.
This guy is just looking for attention. He got more than half the story wrong. No evidence of the boys being shot,which he claims. There were also other witnesses that were there and none of them ever mentioned him being there. A total fraud.
Then why the hell did he waited 30 something years to tell his story, and why haven’t he shown the footage that he said to proven that. Something to him he just looked up the information and make up some rubbish, story about being there and know what happened to Kevin and Don. Yet, he hasn’t shown the footage. That might give the boys parents some justice, I smell bullshit in his story as why would he tell it now. When this information could have been useful back then, if didn’t care what happened to him for his story. Of the event then he would’ve been dead by now. Because were that people who tried to give some justice to the boys parents either were killed or disappeared. Which why I don’t believe his story to be true, because he would’ve being whack bye now. But he isn’t.
I’ve seen way smaller dudes but we’re tough who became addicted to drugs and became the muscle for the plug. I believe it. If I was a dealer and I had this billy jack as a customer. I would make him my muscle. Back then he was a big scary looking dude.
He also basically had a free pass being a wrestler and traveling every day of the year. Airports were very lax with checking bags etc. lax enough to run the coke to the North West.
@@SitesThatSuck wrong. Very wrong. You can’t collect from a dead man. Just like the old saying goes, pay me , you don’t want to see the next guy. Billy wasn’t the “next” guy. He was the 1st.
The Truth Is Spoken.....Yes Bill Clinton was Attorney General 1997-1979 Then Governor 1979-1981 and again 1983-1992 Of Course Bill And Hillary Knew And Were Part and Parcel of The Boys Murder. Clintons Were There At The Drop! You honestly think Killery stayed home????
@@johndonahue3509 the case was solved? The family is still looking for answers so maybe you can point them in the right direction, this is news they could use…
Just starting to listen to BJH and he is not lying in this interview. No way in hell is he lying. His words and demeanor and confidence and describing of events are crisp.
The family's already knew the truth for years. There's a big documentary on this with the mothers of the victims etc. Very in-depth you got to find it to understand the story. This trailer s*** goes all the way to the clintons doorsteps
One of those kids was my dads cousin... as someone who is related we still wonder... this thought comes back every other year or so but the feeling of being hopeless pretty much hides it away till next time... I'm a 23 yr old male from Texas and if there was a good side if there was a side trying to stop the corruption I would dedicate my life to it bc of this bc of BS like this! It infuriates me that humans can not care so much that killing another persons child bc u decided to be a corrupt scumbag POS and needed more of that evil green paper u would kill for it! All I have to say is if our country falls to this corruption they better run as far as they can bc i will come!
I do remember watching Unsolved Mysteries when Robert Stack was hosting the show and there was a segment about two boys getting run over by a train in Arkansas. If the police were involved in the murders that would explain why the investigation was so sloppy.
One of those kids was my dads cousin... the investigation was so sloppy bc the Clintons were behind the killings... Corrupt cops, corrupt cia, corrupt fbi... they have them all under their finger!
I've heard him tell this story in the past and questioned how much I believed. But Shane is right, there's just too much detail, too much conscience, to not believe him. As if further corroborating evidence did come out, he could indeed go to prison. Billy adds political shit to some of his stories, and a lot of that is conjecture, but if you just listen to the story, as he tells it here, I now believe him. Great job with this interview.
I just watched this story. One kid was beaten with the butt a rifle his skull crushed and one was stabbed in the back numerous times. I don't remember anything in the documentary about them being shot.
He mentions Barry but then the video cuts off… the amount of people who are involved in the smuggling and dealing in this, is insane. Never knew he was apart of it.
They left out the boys AND the Clinton and the Bush families... Exaggerated?? Lol, very little was exaggerated, albeit some of Mr. Seal’s adventures were made to look more glamorous but most of it is quite accurate- just that the Clintons especially were all up in it. (Lifelong Arkansas native, have followed all of this pretty closely.) Truth can be much stranger than fiction sometimes, growing up watching this madness play out has proven that to me
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if back in the day BJH was muscle for the drug smugglers he was involved in, including those in Mena, AR. Backstage in pro wrestling back in the day there were some guys you just didn't pick a real fight with because they would kick your ass six ways from Sunday. Haku/Meng was one. Dr Death Steve Williams was another (before the Brawl for All). Andre the Giant was one you didn't mess with. And another you didn't get physical with outside of the ring ... Billy Jack Haynes.
As a sexual abuse survivor I sympathize with him. No matter how many showers you take you NEVER feel clean!! I believe EVERY word he said!! That man is scary. Would NOT have wanted to run into him back in the day!!!
Specially because the weed back then was so garbage. Even with the fire ass weed and moon rocks and 97% THC dabs we have nobody is falling asleep on train tracks. I've been smoking weed since I was 8 years old and I've never fell asleep outside off weed.
He mentions a phone. How many cell phones were around in 1987? The few that existed were installed in cars. He also mentions that they seen the kids take off at the tracks but witnesses put the kids at a pay phone in front of a grocery store when they were assaulted and kidnapped. Not sure Billy was really there.
I don’t think anything he says is even relatively true, I mean the boys; Kevin and Don went hunting in the forest in the middle of the night. If he was high on drugs back in the day, I don’t think I believe anything he’s saying.
@@subzero8679 That's not the concensus in Ar. You have to consider who was in power in Ar, and the ties to the drugs being run into Mena. Barry Seal was running them in. He had help and protection....at least until someone killed him. No one will dig into this. The medical examiner who ruled it "accidental", was promoted by Bill Clinton, the governor. Is that clear enough?
He wrestled in Detroit on the 21st is true. This happens in Little Rock on the 23rd. He actually wrestled on the 25th in California ( and it was a lengthy tv taping ) ...that's not 9 days like he said.
I psychoanalyzed billy jack and the results are Axis-1 schizophrenia, Axis 2- Schizotypal personality disorder,PTSD, drug and alcohol addiction,. It's good for billy jack to talk about his thoughts with a psychologist and/or clinician it will help about his delusions of grandeur
There's a few problems I have with Hayne's story. Why didn't the dirty cops whack him also, as he was a witness? And also, why didn't he tell the names of the cops involved in this case?
maybe bcuz they already murdered two boys? and Haynes was obviously connected with dangerous ppl? also, just bcuz he doesn’t name names doesn’t mean he’s lying?
There's some slight inconsistences in Billy Jack's stories but i believe it's possible that all the concussions and drug abuse over the years could have damaged his brain which accounts for that. There's still so much about the brain that is unkown & how memory works etc. The main jist of the stories is normaly the same. I know he backtracked on the Benoit thing but i have looked into that case and seen the autopsy reports and something is not right with that whole thing. They were just so quick to jump to a conclusion when there were no witnesses (that we know of) who seen it happen. So how they can possibly come to that conclusdion is ridiculous. If it was an all at once incident where there's 3 people killed at once with no witnesses then you can piece together the forensics blood splatter patterns positions of the bodies etc. But for it to apparently happen over a whole weekend & bodies to lie for days between murders there's no way u can ever know for dure there wasn't a 3rd party involved staging the scene. Why they were so determined to put it to bed instesd of holding off on complete conclusion stinks of a cover up.
Then why the hell did he waited 30 something years to tell his story, and why haven’t he shown the footage that he said to proven that. Something to him he just looked up the information and make up some rubbish, story about being there and know what happened to Kevin and Don. Yet, he hasn’t shown the footage. That might give the boys parents some justice, I smell bullshit in his story as why would he tell it now. When this information could have been useful back then, if didn’t care what happened to him for his story. Of the event then he would’ve been dead by now. Because were that people who tried to give some justice to the boys parents either were killed or disappeared. Which why I don’t believe his story to be true, because he would’ve being whack bye now. But he isn’t.
I agree. The police in Atlanta wanted nothing to do with that case. Beef Wellington, Benoit's old Stampede tag team partner, died the same day as they say Benoit did. He was found dead in his home. There are so many details which are ignored or altered to fit the narrative that Benoit did it. Who changed the Wikipedia page to say Nancy Benoit was dead? Why would a neighbor identify British wrestler Dave Taylor at the scene of the crime? Why would Benoit have been nervous the weeks before the murders and changed his driving routes?
So today is the first time I've ever heard that BJH was involved in this story. I read another comment in this video about seeing something in some magazine articles (high times was one of them) talking about witnesses saw a large man with a mask on and him holding something on his hands. However, I did watch a video earlier today which I'm gonna link at the bottom. The guy did a really good job, did he research, took his time, and had all of his ducks in a row for sure. It seems that BJH has changed his story several times, and offered up people's names saying he met them at earlier dates, but then mentioning those same names but saying he had never met them before. I dunno, it's a bit of a long video but if anyone checks it out I would like to hear their thoughts on it. A horribly sad case regardless, and Willie Boy been up to his neck in scandal after scandal since he got into politics. Not sure when he turned to the darkside (maybe when he met his Satan worshipping now wife Killary) as I know he grew up very poor, but didn't have a horrible upbringing. But that's what having control over all of the people that are there to uphold the law gives a person. I can just make whatever go away. He has successfully done it for almost 45 years now. He's not the only guilty one in this horrific crime, and they all need to be brought to justice. How many other people lost their lives in the effort to keep this convered up? The rules for thee do not apply to me. I'm just glad knowing that the cabals days are numbered. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-utCKt6GYmBk.html
Corruption is why those cops that were there werent the ones behind the drug trafficking... the clintons were but now they have moved on to child trafficking and this story is pretty much in the mud... if they were to come back and prosecute now and there were any ties for the smart people to find that connect them to starting the investigation back up just to end the story and have someone in prison for it to try and stop people from thinking... the smart people would see...
Killing two kids because they just happened to be there watching something parachute down? Why not just hand the kids a couple hundred dollars a piece and tell them to get lost? Did they really have to murder these two boys!
I believe the boys were bribed with a joint. And that’s when they were handed weed they smoked it and walked off they decided no witnesses and killed em.
He said he was with the sheriff apparently you missed that part Mr interviewer.. I believe this 100%. I started watching wrestling in 1984 I am 46 I remember him..
@@TheHannibalTV you dont believe him? Hes never really gained any real fame off of this so why would he lie. Yea he might be screwed up in the head but noone tells a story with that much detail and it be a lie. I dunno. I think hes telling the truth.
I'm sorry that he was a fucking pussy ass bitch and didnt take action when he saw something he disagreed with!!! "I'm not scared of anything" "I never wanted to kill any kids" He was clearly scared of the real hand behind these moves!!!! The Clintons were apart of this not just the local cops... my dads cousin was one of those kids and he talks about it especially when this was all over the news again in like 2016!
Only except for the beady eyes! Still has those beady eyes, and you know what they say about people with beady eyes!? They’re shady!! As is the case here!!
Just found out that Billy Jack Haynes was arrested for killing his wife. Unbelievable and so tragic. I remember his match at WrestleMania 3 with Hercules.
He said he had to help put the boys on the track cause they had guns and he was unarmed. So don't see him beating them either. I do hope som day those boys get justice. I doubt it will happen ut I hope.
He sounds very convincing. The statement about them being handcuffed was compelling. He didn't need to toss that in there unless it was legit. I'm a former deputy sheriff, and I believe what he's saying.
First he stated he was with Sheriff Steed and then stated he was by himself. He may or may not have a guilty conscience but his life isn't in danger because no one got arrested or charged or convicted and there was no evidence linked to the cartels.
He mentions Barry Steel being assassinated at the end. Barry was the one running the drugs into Mena. Clinton protected him, at least for a time. He was the AG, then governor. No one knows who really killed Barry Seal. Clintons were dirty then, and still are. No one in Ar wants to dig into this.....no one.
I can't believe this is 1st I'm hearing of this! Not at all into WWE these days, but as a lad in the 80s I was. Vaguely recall ol Billy Jack; but had no idea he was a 'collections enforcer' also!
I’m thinking you had to ask him who contracted him? (Though he already stated in other videos) But the answer got edited out me thinks. Don’t blame yeah. Great interview as always.
Makes no sense that somebody would do a video interview to incriminate themselves over such a crime. For what purpose, to spend the rest of his days in prison? My gut says he was not involved.
Aw man, I hate to see him like this. When I lived in the Seattle, Washington area in the 80’s, Billy Jack was truly one of my favorite wrestlers as well as “Mad Dog Buzz Sawyer”, “Andre The Giant”, “Tony Atlas”, Paul Orndoff”, “Rick Flair” and a whole host of other wrestlers back when wrestling was really “Gory” with real blood in the late seventies and early eighties. I haven’t seen him for at least 35 years or more, so it’s {surreal} for me to see him as a “humbled old man” now, because when I last saw him, he was a huge and menacing looking bodybuilder. I just found out today that he got himself into some trouble with allegations that he shot and killed his wife. I hope that’s not the case because he was one of my top favorites in my earlier years!! (pasted from previous post)
There is NO statute of limitation on murder charges. This is an open unsolved homicide that probably has a small cold case team working it - perhaps the detectives on this case have turned over once or twice in 30 years due to retirements. My point is there are guaranteed to be a number of detectives intimately familiar with the case who read, watch, and listen to EVERYTHING available on this case online. Because it's an open case and Billy has NEVER said he's been brought in for questioning by the cops regarding his claim of being a party to this murder I'm inclined to think the police have probably put Billy's claims up against their case and evidence and have totally discounted his story. They would be all over him if his story matched up with ANY evidence.
This is a rather unusual story, and until recently, unless you were from Arkansas, was relatively unknown, which is really puzzling as to why Billy Jack Haynes of all people would cop to being involved? Now I would think if anyone came forward to admit involvement, they would be questioned, or arrested? How is he free?
Because no one power in Ar wants to dig into this case. There are certainly people who wish they would, but it would be opening a can of worm because there's a lot of connections to the drug running into Mena some people want to keep hidden.
The thing is Billy claimed he has a vhs tape of him there that night that he recorded when it was happening but no one has seen this tape. I asked Linda Ives about this on a Facebook Group Justice For Don Henry and Kevin Ives and she said that it looks like Billy was just another dead end. So she basically said he was bullshitting unfortunately. This guy has serious problems and in this situation especially after Linda has been giving everything to find out what happened to her son and his friend and Billy would lie about this just to be in the spotlight. Get some help please.
@@glenn5517 No one knows other than God and the actual people that were there. He claims he was wearing a mask but in all the documentaries I've see about the Murder On The Tracks story none of the people there ever mention a big guy with a mask or anything about him at all and the fact that basically every witness that actually knew something pretty much has been killed but always covered up ruling them accidental or suicide which is ridiculous when it is so clear they were murdered based on what they knew. Well the fact that Billy Jack has come forward claims he has a actual video of him and the others involved on the actual night but nothing has happened to him kind of shows you that those peope that were and are involved know that he's not a threat to them probably because he wasn't actually there. Billy has a reputation already of inserting himself in stories that he has nothing to do with or really doesn't know anything. He's just trying to get some spotlight. For example in one of his wrestling rants that you can find on RU-vid from about 6 years ago he claims that Vince McMahon was really the father Chris Benoit's son Daniel which is so ludicrous so that should show you right there he talks out of his ass. There are so many documentaries and news articles, documents you name it on the internet that you and me could find ourselves about the Murder On The Tracks story that it would be simple to study them and then put a story together and try to memorize the details because there is nothing he is saying that isn't covered in all those sources. The only thing that isn't covered is about a big man in a mask with a video camera. He's the only one that has mentioned that. We'll see what happens though. I just Pray that Linda Ives and all that were affected get the Justice they so longingly deserve. ❤🙏
The paperwork and documents will not say anything about a hired hit man being there in a mask. Do I think he’s bullshitting the family? I certainly hope not. I really don’t think so. Is there a tape? That’s the only thing I would dispute over all this time, unless BJH knew he would be killed for it.I would love for a lie detector test for this topic for BJH
He mentions a phone @2:32. This crime took place in the 80s. There were no cell phones back then. Even when cellphones came out in the 90s rural areas had no coverage.
This is so good for the parents-GOOD FOR HIM! -(Good on ya BJ)-I'd had some involvement in the "Operation Centaur ROSE" H.R.C gun & powder running ops of the early/mid 1990's.... -The AR/H.R.C "Rose Law Firm" is named after one of my familial ancestors. -Uriah Milton Rose.... Considering what Ive been through since then as to purposeful targeting, Im GRATEFUL to still be above ground!
