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Billy Porter Reveals That He’s Been Living with HIV for 14 Years: Part 3 

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@Cocochantelle
@Cocochantelle 3 года назад
“I’ve waited my whole life for someone to do this and say it out loud. I didn’t know I was the person. I didn’t know i was supposed to be the person.” He was who he was waiting for. Wow that’s huge.
@shirleycross6083
@shirleycross6083 3 года назад
Billy i take my hat off to you honest about your journey much love to you...church folk will say that 😘😘😘😘😘😘😘💖
@Handle2point0
@Handle2point0 Год назад
Hit like a ton of bricks
@uniwemusic2929
@uniwemusic2929 Год назад
Indeed! 💡!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🎉
@chelliea5686
@chelliea5686 3 года назад
Billy Porter's mantra..... "I do not now nor will I ever adjudicate my life or humanity in soundbites on social media" 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@lisawhitfield2794
@lisawhitfield2794 3 года назад
@Chellie A...That's exactly why I don't have no SM accounts. I don't twit, twat or tweet. Never did FB or MySpace....None of it.
@Damj1514
@Damj1514 3 года назад
That Part!
@michelledebrouex5057
@michelledebrouex5057 3 года назад
You better talk Billy!!! Yesssss
@summerrose8439
@summerrose8439 3 года назад
@@lisawhitfield2794 🤣🤣🤣🤣You are 1000% correct, the world would be a better place if we all did that.
@patriciamiller8653
@patriciamiller8653 3 года назад
I love you Billy .I first saw you being interview by Cathy Huge and I have loved you every since .Billy you have great style. Teach and speak the world is listing/
@micheleevans4056
@micheleevans4056 3 года назад
You survived, because it was meant for you to tell your truth at the height of your career/success on you're terms. CONGRATULATIONS!
@yellagirl419
@yellagirl419 3 года назад
Amen!!!
@lover4beauty718
@lover4beauty718 3 года назад
Well said! 👏🏽 💯
@s.michelejohnson655
@s.michelejohnson655 3 года назад
@@yellagirl419 a q
@AJ-op7tk
@AJ-op7tk 3 года назад
Omg I just love his spirit. His voice is so stern. He means what he is saying...
@bongekamnguni5865
@bongekamnguni5865 3 года назад
"Sometimes we are the change that we have been waiting for"❤
@cassandrarussell5558
@cassandrarussell5558 3 года назад
Yezzzzzzz🖤🖤🖤 I felt that when he said it!!!!
@BridgettS
@BridgettS 3 года назад
I’m a vessel for something greater than myself. That was so powerful!
@Tee-kc3pn
@Tee-kc3pn 3 года назад
No it wasn't...he has an inflated ego
@msalwaysclassy1
@msalwaysclassy1 3 года назад
He’s my favorite actor on Pose. He speaks with his heart, and he’s giving a lot of people that are hiding from themselves and they’re not living in their truth some great advice. My heart goes out to Billy, and anyone else who may be living with HIV or any other autoimmune disease.
@stichtingcured5961
@stichtingcured5961 3 года назад
His message is one of unconditional love, bravery and respect...
@kizmarie1659
@kizmarie1659 3 года назад
“Sometimes we ARE the change that we’ve been waiting on.” ❤️
@yvettefountain7701
@yvettefountain7701 3 года назад
Billy Porter is always a sharp dresser god bless him heal his body
@goldenfury7231
@goldenfury7231 3 года назад
Lol. Not gonna happen
@TheDondon14
@TheDondon14 3 года назад
@@goldenfury7231 excuse me???
@goldenfury7231
@goldenfury7231 3 года назад
@@TheDondon14 was i speaking to you???? Lmao??.
@TheDondon14
@TheDondon14 3 года назад
@@goldenfury7231 No, however you were making a homophobic comment and I don’t appreciate it!
@TheDondon14
@TheDondon14 3 года назад
@@goldenfury7231 and I got time today, so try me if you want
@sharonmetcalf5617
@sharonmetcalf5617 3 года назад
I have so much respect for Mr. Billy Porter. I thank God for people like him. I know just by listening to this, depression is no longer in with me. Thank you Mr. Porter. May God continue to bless you!
@micheleywright4368
@micheleywright4368 3 года назад
As a new pastor l want you to know. God is love. You are loved. Pain is pain and l apologize for the exclusion you received. May your pain and cares be cast on the Lord for continual healing. Praying for your healing, life, work and family. Thank you for sharing!
@yvettefountain7701
@yvettefountain7701 3 года назад
Amen Michelle
@triciaperry2234
@triciaperry2234 2 года назад
That Seriously wasn't love at all. Love him but he need to repent and get salvation. None of that is helping his soul. Ridiculous so this is what we doing now? We don't need women pastors. You all fester and draw these demons like fleas. It is DEMONIC and he need deliverance like us all and the HOLY GHOST. PERIOD
@missrobyn1988
@missrobyn1988 2 года назад
Preach sis
@Nate2trey
@Nate2trey 3 года назад
He is such an amazing man!! His spirit just shines❤️❤️❤️
@robyncrosby972
@robyncrosby972 3 года назад
When he said his therapist said "A trauma response is not being able to feel joy." Dropped like a ton of bricks.
@ashleychumney5268
@ashleychumney5268 2 года назад
I felt this in my soul, joy peace and happiness is hard to feel and grab.
@vandeltmas
@vandeltmas 3 года назад
I love what he said. Happiness comes from outside, but JOY. The world didn't give it and the world can't take it away. Thank you Billy for being your authentic self. You have helped so many of us. Yes, you are a vessel.
@yellagirl419
@yellagirl419 3 года назад
I just love Billy im so happy for him he was able to lay those burdens down we All should be so brave and lucky 🙏💪❤
@aprilcarter2119
@aprilcarter2119 3 года назад
I feel his pain. I’m crying. I have a new found respect for him honestly
@themaggattack
@themaggattack 3 года назад
Me too and I already respected him. Now i even respect him more.
@mekbaby1
@mekbaby1 3 года назад
He is so inspiring I just love him thank you for sharing your story @BillyPorter 🙏🏽❤️💪🏽
@TheDondon14
@TheDondon14 3 года назад
@@TheJbonez1000 homophobia at its best. You ought to be ashamed and you’re the prime example of what Billy is preaching about!
@DJ-ts5uv
@DJ-ts5uv 3 года назад
This man is my hero!! His bravery and his strength are just amazing! I’m so happy for him that he’s able to speak his truth. I can literally feel the freedom he is feeling. God bless him!! ❤️
@theaansel8738
@theaansel8738 3 года назад
This is an honest man living in his honesty. He is such a thespian, a gentleman with a kind soul
@SlpBeauty333
@SlpBeauty333 3 года назад
Holy shit, that's heartbreaking and inspirational all at once. So much love to you, Billy Porter.🖤🤎❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
@christinawilkins8481
@christinawilkins8481 3 года назад
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@gabriellafaneyter5314
@gabriellafaneyter5314 3 года назад
What a great spirit. I really really REALLY love and respect him.
@michelledebrouex5057
@michelledebrouex5057 3 года назад
Me too! I have respect for all gay men and women it takes alot of courage to really and truly live in your truth. I dont think I could have done it. His level of honesty is makes me believe that as long as u are honest with yourself and live in your truth everything will be alright. He is a great man and can saaannnngggg! God bless you Billy.✌
@pollywilliams8979
@pollywilliams8979 3 года назад
He is one of My Favorite Actors!!!!!!! I’m happy he is living his best Life!!!
@patriceconda6056
@patriceconda6056 3 года назад
Hallelujah, thank you for sharing your journey and telling not just your truth but the truth! I was just talking to my 84 year old father the other day about how the church & especially the black church has to do better for our LBTGQ brothers and sisters. He actually agreed with me. It totally shocked me and gave me some hope. Continue being the vessel.
@cup_of_reason5393
@cup_of_reason5393 3 года назад
My goodness, I'm crying. I'm a Christian and I hurt for him. No one is better than anyone else and no sin is greater than another. We need to focus on ourselves, this is the problem with our world. Live in the truth and find the light and message. Releasing love and light to him. Praying for him,
@fedupto68
@fedupto68 3 года назад
You know how I resolved this for me. And I m a southern Baptist. I can't find it written in red.
@hollydaniels1958
@hollydaniels1958 3 года назад
But it is written in red that we are to love our brothers and sisters. I am a pastor I don’t care what denomination you are with if you are not loving your brothers and sisters you do not represent Christ. And that’s on 1 John:4-8. I agree with you Ang Gee.
@BrookClampit
@BrookClampit 3 года назад
Thank you for telling your story!! You’re truly amazing
@joeyrich4452
@joeyrich4452 3 года назад
What a powerful, loving voice to help lead so many to their own life joy! “The world didn’t give it and the world can’t take it away!” 🙏🏽
@ChristineIdokogi
@ChristineIdokogi 3 года назад
Why are they ending after 3 seasons???!!!!! We need more of this show?
@michelledebrouex5057
@michelledebrouex5057 3 года назад
Right!
@mrdandub
@mrdandub 3 года назад
I'm a gay man from Dublin Ireland, didn't know who Billy porter was until I watched pose. I love love love this show it makes me laugh and cry all within 2 minutes of each other, they can't end this after 3 seasons this show needs to go forever.
@jnigelm
@jnigelm 3 года назад
Thank God for this man and his message! You never how your story and truth will inspire others!
@kishamceady1359
@kishamceady1359 3 года назад
I was blown away by this , interview God bless him he is truly an amazing person and spirit
@jeweliastanley7065
@jeweliastanley7065 3 года назад
This whole episode got me in tears I just love him💕
@cassandrarussell5558
@cassandrarussell5558 3 года назад
He couldn’t breathe for 14yrs. So happy he can now. People, stress will take you out. LET IT GO.. Embrace & live in your truth… 🖤🖤🖤🖤
@mrroygaskin6046
@mrroygaskin6046 3 года назад
Strong strong black man. So proud of you. Amazing voice. Love your songs bro👍
@babyboomer2955
@babyboomer2955 2 месяца назад
Agreed and his version of “ We may never meet again” brings me to tears every time. May love and light be his.
@mspeechez15
@mspeechez15 3 года назад
Wow! This is so powerful! Thanks for your transparency Billy! This is why we shouldn’t be judge mental! We all fall short of the Glory of God! But thank God for his everlasting Love, Grace, & Mercy! 🙏🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
@may5588
@may5588 3 года назад
I feel like he is a blessing to others. And yes he needs to forgive himself but also take responsibility. Best wishes and health always...
@robinbaby1
@robinbaby1 3 года назад
Forgive himself and take responsibility for what exactly?
@may5588
@may5588 3 года назад
@@robinbaby1 he talks about forgiving himself, for the mistakes that he himself has admitted that he made. And we all have made mistakes in life. It is not a debatable issue. Some mistakes have bigger consequences than others.
@themaggattack
@themaggattack 3 года назад
@@may5588 WTF are you on about? He said "forgiveness is for me," meaning that he forgives the church people who hurt him in order to free himself from any residual resentment he may still be holing from how they abused him. As for you saying "some things are not debatable", well that sounds an awful lot like a brainwashed dictatorship that you preach. Don't dictate to me what's debatable. Don't demand that nobody question your cult. "I'd rather have questions that can't be answered, than answers that can't be questioned."
@nicolerain4331
@nicolerain4331 3 года назад
"Impossible Dreams coming true!" I love it!!!!
@moniquevaughn2157
@moniquevaughn2157 3 года назад
I Love Billie Porter his Soul is so True !! I feel like I've known him for years. Continue to be Empowered Billie !!
@crescentcitytarot
@crescentcitytarot 3 года назад
So much respect for Billy. So many people would have let a year like his 2007 completely swallow them. Love and light to anyone struggling 💜
@tisabanda9497
@tisabanda9497 3 года назад
What an interview. Strong, touching, emotional and everything in between.
@kiokawarner2023
@kiokawarner2023 3 года назад
Excellent interview!!! I am a stand for #PrayTell but after this interview I am a forever fan of Billy Porter!!!!!!!! Class act sir!!!!! Blessings to you and your family
@Lady41C
@Lady41C 3 года назад
Everybody has a story to tell. We have.to take care our temple. We inly get one on this side. He still has purpose on earth. My dad was HIV postive & passed away 2009. I believe his carrier is still at.large. Tamron is beautiful💜💙
@plym1969
@plym1969 3 года назад
What do you mean 'his carrier is still at large'?
@bigmona2741
@bigmona2741 3 года назад
@@plym1969 means the person who infected him is still infecting others
@SlpBeauty333
@SlpBeauty333 3 года назад
I'm so sorry for your loss. May his memory become a blessing. ❤️ Apparently, that's what I've caught a few TV hosts saying about Covid-19 victims and it is meant to convey grief lessening into just the good parts.
@Lady41C
@Lady41C 3 года назад
@@plym1969 because the same day after his funeral she was already seeing another man & then moved to another state. My siblings & I couldnt have her prosecuted due coroner's office put different cause of death on his death certificate. 😖 It's all in God's hand.
@UnleashTheKhaos
@UnleashTheKhaos 3 года назад
Sorry for your lost but was your dad getting treatment? The reason I ask is because treatment is so effective nowdays HIV does not kill anyone anymore at all unless you are off treatment.. if he was getting treatment why do you think he died from his HIV disease? I wish everyone could understand HIV is not a death sentence at all.. it’s actually more manageable than high blood pressure, diabetes, and a list of other conditions.. I have Friends who were diagnosed with aids because they were not on treatment due to them not knowing they were positive once they receive their diagnosis they instantly started treatment now they have made a full recovery and their immune system is back to normal with no side effects from the medicine or HIV.
@Bearded_Fox
@Bearded_Fox 3 года назад
You definitely are the change we all as gay men of color and gay boys of color is waiting for. The voice! 🌈 ✨
@bonnierantz6440
@bonnierantz6440 3 года назад
🗣THANK YOU BILLY!! FOR BEING THE PERSON WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR!! THANK YOU MAMA PORTER FOR GIVING US A BEAUTIFUL SOUL && BEING 1 YOURSELF!!! THANK YOU BOTH!!
@drakec6781
@drakec6781 3 года назад
He is an amazing actor always funny
@butterharris9688
@butterharris9688 Год назад
Over here loving Billy Porter. He's everything.
@melshane21
@melshane21 3 года назад
I AM PROUD OF HIM... I ADMIRE HIS POWER AND STRENGTH MOST OF ALL HIS COURAGE... YOU ARE NOT A STATIC, YOU ARE A REASON, YOU ARE A PURPOSE. KEEP THAT DRIVE. YOU DESERVE NOTHING BUT THE BEST @BILLYPORTER. KEEP MOVING.
@fatimahc.3860
@fatimahc.3860 3 года назад
We are the change that we have been waiting for.
@-Adrienne
@-Adrienne 3 года назад
Bravery Billy Porter... Thank You ❤️🙏🏾
@teedamenace8675
@teedamenace8675 Год назад
he's captivating in his work and real life.. he's just amazing!
@cntrygirl7622
@cntrygirl7622 Год назад
He's such a beautiful human being. It sucks how everything happened in 2007. For me, I absolutely love his Oscar dress. I thought it was ballsy and fashion forward. Then I think he wore a red one recently and it was divine!
@janellmeads1399
@janellmeads1399 3 года назад
He would & could be a good friend for me! Healing old wounds.
@Cocobrown4u
@Cocobrown4u 3 года назад
The truth sets us free! Good for you Billy x
@karynthompson4320
@karynthompson4320 3 года назад
I looked at his tuxedo dress and said...Dang! I want that! Period.
@michelledebrouex5057
@michelledebrouex5057 3 года назад
Right! He stay sharp from head to toe
@loraa.m
@loraa.m 3 года назад
I love Billy Porter, he’s so genuine❤️
@sarbam748
@sarbam748 3 года назад
Thank you Billy Thank you Tamron!!! My trauma is of a different sort but traumatized just the same. To hear someone mentioning compartmentalizing and carrying on which is my formula for life. And knowing and highlighting the difference between happy and joy!!!!! This was amazing!!!!!! And to big brother Billy your words are not just for the LGBTQ family believe me!!! There are so many of us out here in the "normal" ( for lack of a better word) world who walk around with similar feelings and sensation driven by a plethora of root causes its not even funny. Keep speaking you have so many more to reach LGBTQ and non LGBTQ
@EzeexNatalieMusicChannelHITSCL
@EzeexNatalieMusicChannelHITSCL 3 года назад
YOU GOT TO HAVE BALLS TO BE A PASTOR.....BILLY IS MY NEW PASTOR People are so overly concern about their... 1. Jobs 2. Careers 3. Friends 4. Family 5. Future 6. Money 7. Things But not concerned about God a 'THE PROVIDER OF ALL THESE THINGS!
@angelbutler8840
@angelbutler8840 3 года назад
No let's keep it real God is the only one can put him in position to become a pastor not man may read your scription he have to repent his scenes since
@stellawil
@stellawil 3 года назад
@Rochelle carmel that's not your call. Jesus is the judge. Too many "Christians " are judgmental. Jesus went to the Cross for flawed people. Love was his main message.
@deniselittles4160
@deniselittles4160 2 месяца назад
This was so good keep it going its great
@MM-tx7gi
@MM-tx7gi 3 года назад
I have always thought him to be too over the top. I never really liked him as a performer or an entertainer but this is a great interview that showed his inner workings. It helps to hear his story.
@helohalo3106
@helohalo3106 3 года назад
"you are who you've been waiting for"
@kbrock74
@kbrock74 3 года назад
Love you Billy. Thank you for sharing. God is within you darling. You are a Blessing to this world. ❤🙏🏾🙌🏾
@slimwalk708
@slimwalk708 3 года назад
Wonderful interview.
@Greenz1100
@Greenz1100 2 года назад
FOR REAL we love you Billy. Thank you, thank you so much for speaking up. My god thank you for you Billy. Tamron, thank you for your platform thank you.
@naobolliger9188
@naobolliger9188 3 года назад
I see here Billy is freeing up. I am just nothing but happy for him. l want him to enjoy his life fully, with no pain and no suffering of hiding. I love you, Billy Porter, you've been such a vast blessing to me and also to many, many people. Gosh, I'm crying like a baby❤❤❤❤❤
@solyfuego5390
@solyfuego5390 3 года назад
Love your Spirit, thank you for sharing.
@donnahill2178
@donnahill2178 3 года назад
Lights camera and action is how I decribe Billy. A burst of 🌞.
@casingadreamw.nuecases1293
@casingadreamw.nuecases1293 3 года назад
I love when this man speak
@annacoleman5599
@annacoleman5599 3 года назад
Thank you for Sharing your life experience. May God continue to Bless you 💝
@christopherwhitehead1261
@christopherwhitehead1261 3 года назад
The power in his voice 🙌🏿
@kariholder-lynch8426
@kariholder-lynch8426 3 года назад
i LOVE THAT " FORGIVENESS IS FOR ME".
@Helengeorgeson
@Helengeorgeson 2 года назад
What a beautiful inspirational person speaking his truth 👏👏👏
@uchechukwungaikedi
@uchechukwungaikedi 3 года назад
😭❤❤❤. He is such an inspiration. The Lord is your strength and to those living with HIV and other immune diseases. 🙏
@lakrishiw
@lakrishiw 3 года назад
Now there’s medication that makes it undetectable. I’m happy he made it. I love his show.
@kwardradio6084
@kwardradio6084 3 года назад
He's truly a Vehicle For Spirit!! I love Billy Porter 💞🙏
@robertweinblatt2018
@robertweinblatt2018 2 года назад
What an amazing honest interview! I’m in love❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥
@sharleenmcdougall2609
@sharleenmcdougall2609 3 года назад
Billy is brave and strong he is a role model i love his spirit and the person he is it is an inspiration to hear his story
@carolinachickfrombrooklyn664
@carolinachickfrombrooklyn664 3 года назад
Tamron you are such amazing reporter and host. You are a class act
@lindabrooker9954
@lindabrooker9954 3 года назад
Billy is blessed to have had to opportunity and platform to heal the way he is doing. The rest of us need to take this lesson, platform or not and be bold and find our owe way to heal!
@CHoKoLet7
@CHoKoLet7 3 года назад
Mr. Porter is an Amazing person...love his spirit! 🙌🏾So happy he was able to Release
@nickiemckenzie5700
@nickiemckenzie5700 3 года назад
I love him. So spiritual
@reneemartin943
@reneemartin943 3 года назад
I loved everything about this interview it was very beautiful passionate understanding loving & real 💕💕
@lovelymaylopez2090
@lovelymaylopez2090 3 года назад
Amazing interview. My blessings to Billy Porter and Tamron Hall. Billy we stand with you on your journey! 😃
@kathleenmiller1124
@kathleenmiller1124 3 года назад
Good luck to you Billy, I wish you the best. You have helped so many people by your testimony today. You have given them permission to speak from their heart.
@MaryamofShomal
@MaryamofShomal Год назад
God bless Billy Porter and God bless Miss Tamron Hall 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
@pamelaervin9078
@pamelaervin9078 3 года назад
To finally live in your truth is to LIVE!!!! Nothing but greatness and prosperity is thrown upon you and more is yet to come!!! Let your light shine!!
@lenisenicholson1554
@lenisenicholson1554 3 года назад
Love is on the way, on wings of Angels I know it’s true, love is on the way turning the pages I don’t know when, but love will find you again, be strong and stay strong Billy🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@MsLBN
@MsLBN 3 года назад
Billy you touch me, I'm 65 young stright femail who has felt God makes no mistakes, even tho I was told I was one. And gays are born gay! Hearing you're journey infuses mine. You're loved by many. I'm just now hearing on Pose you're character dies, DAM that's too fast. I'm waiting for season 3, when is it coming to NETFLIX? Love your spirit Billy, Gods blessings. Thanks for your truth and trust.
@raedjibrail
@raedjibrail 2 года назад
What a powerful, emotive interview/confessional. Great man, great role model. Can’t wait to see what else you do lovely man x
@mw7405
@mw7405 3 года назад
Art is like that for A LOT of us. I so appreciate this share.
@naturenurturejm3517
@naturenurturejm3517 3 года назад
Omg sitting down listening to Billy Porter its so sad for him i can only prayed to god now to heal him, heal him from that diagnosis and give him to moved on in life.🙏🏽.
@LJStability
@LJStability 2 года назад
Man, what an awesome interview.
@miriamrobinson1556
@miriamrobinson1556 3 года назад
You're who you were waiting for 🔥🔥🔥🔥👏👏👏👏👏 OMG! so deep!
@redeemed1352
@redeemed1352 3 года назад
I don’t think I had heard of him before, but this was very interesting.
@swathin.3493
@swathin.3493 2 года назад
Bravo Billy - you are UNIQUE and WONDERFULLLLLLLL
@tashae7559
@tashae7559 3 года назад
Truly powerful love hun. Now your truly living your truth. God bless you
@kamahorodaphnepatra
@kamahorodaphnepatra Год назад
Your more than a vessel, Your a Child of God, Go forward and shine
@bernadettebailey5370
@bernadettebailey5370 3 года назад
I'm in tears!
@jerrilyngraham4942
@jerrilyngraham4942 3 года назад
I’m so proud to hear your story..... CONFESSION is good for the soul. God loves the person but not the sin, that’s with everyone of us. So you blessed me with the testimony to help the many gay men& women. As family members we have to live in spite of whatever decision y’all decide to make. God bless you brother 🙏🏾👍🏽🙌🏾
@nickyposley3476
@nickyposley3476 3 года назад
Amazing courage and inspiration!
@wandamonroe644
@wandamonroe644 3 года назад
Billy Porter praying for you. Keep your head up young man. Billy you are loved💕💕
@jackandlill
@jackandlill 3 года назад
WoW! What a human interview! So enjoyed watching Tamron in her beautiful dress & Billy in his awesome suit talk about real life pain, trauma & redemption.....hmmmm - So very Powerful! Thank you both ♥ I have NO doubt how priceless this interview is to so so many humans feeling like Billy has had to his whole life.....
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