Biochar production in a woodstove

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Discussion and demonstration of small scale, yet very high quality charcoal production in a standard woodstove using easy/cheap resources... Create decent size batches of super black charcoal for gardening and use the heat and gases effectively to heat your home and cook food while doing it!
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@edibleacres 6 лет назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jxBUqk2M3Y8.html - Please watch this... Our newest video on the subject with some important improvements!!!

@tolgaswp Год назад

Of all the biochar videos I've binged on over the last week, this is probably the most impressive, least wasteful and best yield. Thanks

@edibleacres Год назад

Really glad you think so! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-C066C2qsd0A.html - This is a more updated video and more in line with what we actually do at this point... Hope it is helpful and hope you are safe!

@infocat13 7 лет назад

I really like the idea that you heating the home with this idea ,instead everyone else on youtube is wasting the heat outdoors

@edibleacres 7 лет назад

Thanks. ALthough I'd say there are a lot of good ideas out there, and this is great for sawdust and offcuts, etc., but wouldn't deal with large branches and coarse debris nearly as well... Always an appropriate application for the stock and situation.

@struck2soon 7 лет назад

Excellent! First time I have seen this method, and I am liking it. Must get a metal container and try it out.

@waynetadlock9719 6 лет назад

I just have to tell you. I started vermicomposting over the winter and I've gone back to this video a couple of times. This would be an excellent way to make small batches of bio char to charge in my worm bins. Thank you so much...

@edibleacres 6 лет назад

Glad it feels useful to you! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jxBUqk2M3Y8.html is our updated version, worth checking out...

@DK-qx3lv 9 лет назад

Fantastic use of energy! Thanks for sharing

@dadgad68 9 лет назад

Man that is great. Nothing wasted. Thanks for sharing.

@shyflyzz 4 года назад

Thanks for the idea!I bought a steam table pan like the one shown and filled it with chunks of dry juniper.Had a good fire and put it in the wood stove and saw the flames spiting out from the lid in a few minutes after loading.left the pan in over night and in the morning after had my first batch of biochar with 100% success.I could make 2 or 3 batches per day if I wanted to but not in a hurry, have all winter to build up a big supply.

@edibleacres 4 года назад

So excited to hear this! Be safe and enjoy! I've upgraded to stainless steel hotel pans and have never looked back. If you see this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jxBUqk2M3Y8.html it shows the system we actively use now. 3 batches+ a day generally. It's amazing how much charcoal you can generate while heating your home!

@rachelchevalier1586 9 лет назад

Great job with the biochar and the video! many thanks

@JM-mf4mq 7 лет назад

So wonderful of you to do this! I am super impressed with what a practical, brilliant method you have taught & I am so all over this! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!

@edibleacres 7 лет назад

I'm glad you found it so helpful! Keep an eye out for an update video coming in the next week or so. After 3 years of working with this more or less every day of the winter months, it's evolved a bit, and I'll plan to share current notes as time allows.

@joshjosh1386 4 года назад

This is brilliant. Thanks for sharing the char making practice. I'll try it in winter when my fire stove is on.

@edibleacres 4 года назад

I hope it works well for you, we love it!

@asc556 4 года назад

Very good way to produce active charcoal. Thanks for sharing.

@twospooked 3 года назад

Very nice in-depth video. I’ve not done this with wood, but have made char cloth from old blue jeans for fire starting material, same process but much smaller container. I think it’s worth the mention to tell the importance of letting it cool down completely before opening the lid so it doesn’t combust, ruining all your hard work and the entire product. Thanks for this video, for some reason I thought making bio char was a different process, I can’t wait to try this.

@leonardrichards9079 9 месяцев назад

Blue jeans ? Did you do that in a wood stove ? In the house ? How was the smell ? I will try it if you can advise . Thanks !

@waynetadlock9719 7 лет назад

Have seen a few of your vids. This one earned my sub. Excellent multi-purpose technique. Bravo!

@edibleacres 7 лет назад

Thanks!

@Bernieclark45 7 лет назад

Well done you have given me ideas. Thanks.

@russell7489 7 лет назад

Fantastic, best example of the gas burn, kids would love it, got to try it. Thanks for a workable way to do this without wasting the heat burning outside.

@edibleacres 7 лет назад

Glad it seems useful... Be safe!

@thecurrentmoment 7 лет назад

one way you could stack material in the lid portion is to lay a sort of grid/mesh on the lid then flip it on to the bottom, like flipping a cake onto a rack or cake plate. you could use wire netting/mesh, but I think a few sticks across would do the trick and be more in character

@combatmako 8 лет назад

Well done Sir !!

@homelessjoe 7 лет назад

Well this was incredibly educational. Thank you

@edibleacres 7 лет назад

Thanks man. I'm planning an update video soon so you may want to subscribe so you know when it happens...

@bosshog4342 7 лет назад

load the wood chips in the pot lid and bottom as if you were scooping up a leaf pile with both hands. you'll get more chips in that way. great vid

@edibleacres 7 лет назад

Good suggestion. I've upgraded the system since this video but a good idea for sure.

@GregJoshuaW 10 лет назад

You may enjoy MrTeslonian and his gasification stove - he recaptured the off gassing and used it to actually run a modified ICE - I think it was a generator. He's got a great channel dedicated to energy production... I've never seen the gas burn off like this, so thanks for posting!

@edibleacres 10 лет назад

I feel like I've found a few of his videos here or there when looking for things. Good reminder to take a look through them again and see what more can happen with this. I'm hoping to figure how to create an outdoor rocketstove / biochar producer that I can do hot water bath canning on, perhaps have a copper coil capture hot water at the same time… I'll keep folks posted.

@mamalv1 7 лет назад

If you put lids on your pots they will come to boil much faster for cooking

@tomkelly8827 3 года назад

This is amazing, thanks for sharing. I love the simplicity and function stacking! Also how you plan to charge the biochar afterwards! I have thought about biochar quite a bit and I am not looking forward to that messy grinding bit at the end, so my plan is to make biochar from sawdust in the first place so I won't have to grind it afterwards. Your charcoal looks perfect for a nice summer BBQ though

@edibleacres 3 года назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jxBUqk2M3Y8.html - updated video with better details... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-C066C2qsd0A.html - more details and talking about using wood chips to heat our home :)

@trollforge 7 лет назад

Excellent! ! !

@lozziecap 5 лет назад

Completely fascinating

@JoeFeser 9 лет назад

Good stuff man

@MountainGardenGirl 9 лет назад

Very new to the idea of Biochar/charcoal making and your video is great. We do not have a wood stove and wondered if there was a way to do what you did in an open fire. Your video was great. Very clear, organized and easy to understand. We do have access to an old rusty wood stove that sits outside but has no pipes on it. Could it be used in any way to do this outdoors?

@mitocondriac 10 лет назад

Thanks for sharing

@retiredbitjuggler3471 6 лет назад

You mentioned that you were thinking about ways to fill the top of the roasting pan. What would happen if you lined the inside wall of the pan bottom with a few sheets of newspaper or cardboard and allowed it to rise up to a height matching the top half. It would seem that you could fill the whole void of the roaster and just place the top over everything. I really like your idea. I haven’t made biochar yet, but the usual process seems to just waste so much heat energy. Your idea avoids that shortfall. Thanks for sharing this. I haven’t seen this done anywhere else.

@edibleacres 6 лет назад

Thanks for the input. I made an update video that has some real improvements... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jxBUqk2M3Y8.html If you are interested. It's more in line with what we do on a regular basis at this point. Thanks for stopping by! :)

@branimirmarold7343 7 лет назад

thanks for sharing, respect!

@branimirmarold7343 7 лет назад

I made few rounds of bio char, super easy, thanks again!

@whyh 2 года назад

You're brilliant!

@edibleacres 2 года назад

Thats kind of you... This system has been improved since this old video, if you search 'biocar' in our videos you can see what I would hope are better versions.

@scottcoffinhotmail 4 года назад

Very cool!

@MsFaan 10 лет назад

Fantastic video. Thank you so much. I was wondering about what you did after you took the pan out of the stove. Did you just leave it somewhere to cool in the house?Most biochar-making instructions talk about dousing with water, but obviously you didn't. What about using a pan with a non-airtight flat lid on top, filled with wood to the brim instead of only half full? Great stuff, Just what I was looking for. Much easier than making a TLUD retort. Thanks again

@edibleacres 10 лет назад

Good questions, glad someone asked, since I didn't talk about the details of how it was finished... Certainly wouldn't recommend letting it cool in the house... Chance of combustion and it's hot, so... When the off-gasses die down from the edges, and it seems done (takes practice to know when I'm learning), I wear super heavy duty gloves, welding gloves would be best, and move it outside to a concrete slab and just leave it, with the lid on... You take the lid off too early and it certainly will ignite and either be a hazard and/or just turn to ash. Wait a while (hours/day), when cool to touch outside, should be done and safe to move to metal container for storage... Break it up real fine and add it to rich rich, young compost, or urine, or manure, or something rich for it to soak up before it goes into the soil. Best of luck to you, share your notes with us so we can all learn!

@edibleacres 10 лет назад

And whatever container you have that works and ISN"T completely airtight should work/be safe. Use your best judgement, go small and vigilant for the first few batches.

@thecurrentmoment 7 лет назад

What would happen if you just left the dish in the fire all night, would it eventually burn into ash?

@edibleacres 7 лет назад

No. As long as the lid stays on it should remain as charcoal and be worth while when extracted in the morning. I haven't tried it but it seems reasonable to assume this.

@flysubcompact 3 года назад

I'm so trying this in my wood stove. Thanks.

@edibleacres 3 года назад

Before you follow this video for details, check out the more updated video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jxBUqk2M3Y8.html

@flysubcompact 3 года назад

@@edibleacres Preesh!

@distractionsa2z 8 лет назад

This is easiest method!! We use wood stove for heat AND have fruit wood pruning remnants. Became interested in making charcoal, but retort too complex. Happened to have identical casserole too! Like the idea of heating house while making charcoal for BBQ / gardening. Wondering if you've tried a cast iron container as other will eventually burn through. I put casserole on a brick. Also can the charcoal be "overcooked"? I did detect small amount of ash in center on a couple of batches. Thanks again for great idea!

@edibleacres 8 лет назад

+distractionsa2z Can't be overcooked I don't think... Yeah, cast iron could be a nice thing, I've upgraded to a stainless steel retort for the woodstove, holds more material and has lasted for 100s of burns. Its from a catering type thing from a restaurant supply. Lots of options... Glad this is a fit for ya!

@nolanarcher5123 7 лет назад

I'd love to see a picture of what you use now that lasts so long.

@erbauungstutztaufgnade1875 Год назад

Very good.

@dandavatsdasa8345 2 года назад

Great! Almost all of the videos that I have seen so far has wood being burned for charcoal, but they are not utilizing the heat from the fire. It seems that mountains of charcoal are probably needed for biochar and for purifying water. Perhaps there is a way to use some of your ingenuity with this on a larger scale. Thank you for sharing helpful videos!

@roxyie1122 8 лет назад

hickory nut tea?! I really have so much to learn!

@davidthegood 7 лет назад

Very good. That locust should make some high-quality charcoal.

@edibleacres 7 лет назад

It really does. So dense

@wholesystems 10 лет назад

How's that stove work for ya? Lived with one once, seemed good.

@edibleacres 10 лет назад

The stove is good overall... It's in a less-than-ideal older home that some point really needs to be re-insulated and made to perform better, but the stove itself puts out a lot of even heat, has a beautiful window to watch the fire through and kick off radiant heat when you are there, and a large cook surface on top. Plus it take 23" logs if you're careful so I'm happy.

@bdavison40 10 лет назад

I like your video on biochar in a wood stove. We have the same model Jotul. I am looking to make 8" round biochar retort tubes from stainless single wall flue pipe fitted with end caps and a handle to go in the side door. Thanks for posting!

@edibleacres 10 лет назад

Seems reasonable as a design, although I'm finding the already made roasting thing an excellent tool... If you make what you are describing, please take a moment and shoot a quick video to share so we can all continue to explore this approach...

@corasproulermt5478 6 лет назад

Hey, great vid:) I was wondering about two things. 1. Is the char you made (or even the coals that were in the stove, if they were quenched or covered with dirt) be able to used as the precursor to make activated charcoal? and 2. what is your wood stove sitting on? txs Cora

@edibleacres 6 лет назад

1) I believe you can make activated charcoal from this type of charcoal, but there is a process that I don't know how to do that is involved... 2) The stove is on a hearth we made with pennies embedded in it!

@reenwills7562 9 лет назад

Quick Question. Is your black locust stick seasoned or fresh off the tree? Thanks for sharing this video, you got my melon all thinking with ideas!

@edibleacres 9 лет назад

Caught me when I was online, so quick answer for you... Not critical for it to be seasoned or not, just need more heat in the stove to overcome underseasoned stock in the retort... Ideally you are working with really dry chips, though... Maybe you get what you want to make charcoal in the house, in a hopper near the woodstove for a week or two before you make the char, then you've got it dried down nicely...

@stevenwieler2990 9 лет назад

EdibleAcres Thanks for the reply. (different account)

@truthseeker635 Год назад

Heard you say in another video something to the effect that it heats your home better without using as much wood. Would like to know how since you are still burning the wood(gasses from off the wood) inside the container so essentially you are still using the wood as if it were outside the container. Please explain how making biochar this way actually saves you from burning more wood and getting more heat from less wood burned if I understood correctly. Will make my biochar this way but would like to know if I am actually getting more heat by making biochar instead of regularly combusting it by regular burning.

@edibleacres Год назад

This doesn't magically get more heat from nowhere, but what happens is that we can put into these 'retorts' material that otherwise wouldn't be great firewood... Nutshells, sawdust, small wood chunks, etc., etc. Material that is normally considered waste, but has a lot of energy left in it and lots of Carbon. In this way we're able to generate heat from otherwise waste material AND get some really pure carbon out of the deal, win win!

@truthseeker635 Год назад

@@edibleacres I did see a few benefits of burning the gasses off the wood in the metal container. You get the heat from the gasses as regular burning but there are no ashes to clean up and you get great chunks of biochar for the garden. Another question would be that I did see you putting what looked like pine pieces from a 2x4. Would the sap in the pine be an issue with creosote build up in your flu? Have access to many construction sites and see plenty of pine pieces in the dumpster that I would love to use. I also have many downed pine trees here that are basically useless for firewood but would love to see this used in the way you use them without having the sap of the pine be an issue. What say you about using pine and does it have to be dry to prevent the normal problems of burning wet wood?

@keepdancingmaria 7 лет назад

I hope you are still checking for questions. Could you please explain to me what the pan looks like when the charcoal is finished cooking? Will you still see flames, no more flames but still have vapors, nothing at all?

@edibleacres 7 лет назад

You caught me at email when this came in, so a quick answer for ya! When the charcoal is safely and fully finished there should be no flames coming out the sides of the container at all. I'll sometimes take a metal stove poker and poke it once or twice and look for smoke coming from the edges. If I see that, I know I need more wood next to it to really finish. If nothing, and no flames, it's ready for extraction... I plan this winter to do an update video on this so please subscribe and I'll give a lot more information on this... Thanks!

@keepdancingmaria 7 лет назад

EdibleAcres I have happily subscribed. Thank you so much for your reply. You have a terrific channel.

@dancingcedar 6 лет назад

Fascinating. Someone who is familiar with a way to make the charcoal (that can be turned into biochar with addition of biological materials) in a wood stove using one of those common metal ammunition boxes that one can get at army surplus stores, said that after a number of sessions of using the ammunition box for generating charcoal, the ammunition box is destroyed and rendered useless for all practical purposes except recycling. Does the process photographed here result in the destruction of the enamel roasting pan that was used in this video, after some sessions of use for this purpose?

@edibleacres 6 лет назад

I'm glad you asked... I made an update video with the system we use now and I highly recommend the system in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jxBUqk2M3Y8.html I've used the retorts in this video over 100 times each and they are still perfectly fine... I wouldn't use the roasting pan in this video any longer.

@terijean6351 6 лет назад

You've changed to large batches with open burning. Does the open burning make just as good char as the oxygen free way?

@edibleacres 6 лет назад

In the wood stove is the cleanest way for sure. but incredibly small batches compared to the open pit.

@tannenbaum3444 4 года назад

Did you then remove the pan from the stove after 1 hour and douse it with water....can you explain the process?

@edibleacres 4 года назад

NEVER douse it with water as it will shock the metal container. Once it is fully fully done we carefully bring it out to our garage to rest and cool on the concrete with the lid on. Then crush it later. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jxBUqk2M3Y8.html - More detailed and improved video...

@crazysquirrel9425 4 года назад

If it wasn't fully charred, it is not a problem. Remaining wood in the core is a food source for soil goodies too!

@CherylHillier 6 лет назад

Had you thought of making a small TLUD stove to do this? Maybe inside your stove maybe not?

@edibleacres 6 лет назад

I have other biochar making systems for outdoors that are very low tech. But this works well for me in the stove.

@sjobang 6 лет назад

If you punch some holes in the bottom of the pan more of the vapours will combust, in a place where the heat produced will add to the prosess.

@guifrakss 6 лет назад

But oxygen will get in the pan and burn the charcoal.

@sjobang 6 лет назад

I don't think so. In all the double container biochar kilns I've seen (on youtube) the inner container has holes in the bottom, in order to let the combustable gasses that the prosess produces escape. Only when the kiln is cooling off the production of these gasses will end, to allow some oxygen to enter the inner container.

@johnfitbyfaithnet 3 года назад

Do you need to treat the urine before adding to char?

@edibleacres 3 года назад

Adding to the char treats the urine :)

@sun-lunglee3291 4 года назад

You didn’t show us how you take your hot stove out

@foodsgoodfarm2429 6 лет назад

hey there! I have been using this method for the last month and its a great way to save on firewood as well as get the added benefit of char at the end! I was wondering if you have noticed any effects on creosote buildup? I have dry firewood, but the small wood I'm using for char is fresh, should I be drying it? thanks again for your videos, so much inspiration :)

@edibleacres 6 лет назад

I'm really glad the idea has been useful to you! I made an update video that might be of interest... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jxBUqk2M3Y8.html Your question about fresh wood for the char. I do that too, not super ideal, but heres how I get around it... I have three 'retorts' of the hotel pans (from the newer video) that I rotate through. One is going, the other two are opened, with the fresh or non-ideal material in them, right near the wood stove for a day or so. By the time they come into rotation they are generally quite dry and pre-heated. So long as that feels safe, that is definitely one way to approach it... Best of luck!

@CherylHillier 6 лет назад

make Biochar out of your cobnut shells? Experiment with other materials?

@edibleacres 6 лет назад

We've used shells from nuts, sawdust, chips, etc. to explore. I've made some beautiful char out of bones before, too...

@onebigkahuna69 7 лет назад

I always wondered why people that use wood stoves didn't put it to use to making small batches of Charcoal.

@edibleacres 7 лет назад

I always wondered too! Now I know its because they haven't thought to do it yet! No other reasons I can figure (yet!)

@onebigkahuna69 7 лет назад

its the killing two birds with one stone method.lol

@crazysquirrel9425 4 года назад

Buy a brand new metal paint can with metal lid. Drill a 1/4 to 5/16 hole in the lid. Fill it, put the lid on firmly, and toss it in. Good for about 15 batches or so.

@edibleacres 4 года назад

I am aware of this system but with the stainless steel retorts we use now we can pack a lot more material in and they have lasted hundreds and hundreds of burns so far.

@crazysquirrel9425 4 года назад

@@edibleacres Hard to find metal things anymore. Junkers usually get all they can. New ones are a bit pricey. Wish I could do open burning where I live. Would invest in some 55 gal drums. Can get wood debris from yard waste for free. Going to try a batch of used coffee grounds and see how that works. Have to convince the wife my coffee habit got worse lol

@Thalanox 6 лет назад

Oh, that's a really neat and efficient way to make charcoal. I wonder if you use it for barbecuing or getting a slow burn in the stove for overnight. "... and _cover it in urine_ ..." ...Wait, what?

@edibleacres 6 лет назад

This is to make biochar, which is for agricultural purposes. It helps sequester carbon for long time scales in the soil. Not for cooking! The urine is to inoculate or add nutrient to it!

@Thalanox 6 лет назад

I've never heard of charcoal being used for agriculture, so it really threw me for a loop and I had to do a double-take. How has the charcoal been working out? Has stuff started growing better?