Right no one has to believe me but for anyone that dose care, When i played this back in 2014, what happend to Lizy really upset me to the point where i was a HUGE mess. So to fix this my sister very kindly E-Mailed ken levine to ask if Lizy had really died. And luck have it he asked my sister for our home number and he called us, Long story shot lizy can never really die so somewhere there is a happy ending, where she Lived a Happy life. i forget the way he put it, but he went in to the theory behind it. and it did make sense. So she did live a happy Life. Lived in Paris. Just Lived her life. as we all wanted. So for anyone who cares i just wanted to let you all know.
You would see a woman in real life, with short or long hair that looks like Elizabeth I have seen a woman, in Thailand. a Thai skinny teacher who I learned with. With black short hair almost looks like Elizabeth
Infinite was one of those rare games that left me speechless in it's conclusion. I remember sitting in my dark room, contemplating the actions that had just had just transpired as Elizabeth grabbed me and forced me underwater. It was chilling, thrilling, and fulfilling all at once: and while in retrospect the whole affair was, let's say... 'convoluted', I can't deny that Levine's work is a shining testament to the argument that hames can TRULY be a work of art on-and-off themselves.
Then gets back up to get a soda, then checks video, sits back down, forgot the soda, gets back up to get the soda, sits back down then notices I missed 4 minutes so I rewind, takes a bong rip, and then sits back and enjoys... Then I have to get back up to take a leak, check the door if its locked, then goes back to sit down only to notice the phone is gone, spends 12 minutes to realize the phone was in the bathroom, sits back down, takes another bong rip, notices all the lights are on in the house now so gets up to turn them all off and THEN goes back to sit back down and scrolls around to watch for something to watch the remembers that I was alreadt watching something then spends another 12 minutes looking for it and then FINALLY sits back down to watch the damn video.
The tragedy of Elizabeth is that, just as the luteces warned her, and she realized herself in Burial At Sea 2... The person she hated so much, is basically the person she turned into. Like father, like daughter i suppose. Only difference between them is that of Comstock and Fitzroy. Where Booker was physically savage, Elizabeth used her intelligence as her weapon She's a great character but damn... Seems the Dewitts weren't meant to have happy endings... Couldn't just leave well enough alone as she said I wonder what she would've been like had she just gotten to live her life as "Anna" Dewitt. Away from all of this pain Edit: what's worse... Is that had she just forgiven that last version of her father who genuinely was remorseful... She probably could've become "Anna" and had a genuine relationship with him. And Sally as well. But... Constants and variables it seems
Aw that sounds like a wholesole idea anabeth and bookerstock haveing a wholesome life in rapture Well maybe depends on the whole fontain and objectivism stuff I wonder if there's a fic about that
@@siramaytheshowgundragon yeah it would be really cute to see tbh. Maybe it's out there but i feel like bioshock mythos is a bit too grim for someone to have fleshed out that idea 😂 I just picture Annabeth and Sally acting like big and lil sisters. Annabeth and Bookerstock acting like daughter/father and Annabeth eventually trying to get her dad a girlfriend 😂 Would be cute But alas haha
It wasn't until I watched this video that I realized her getting her pinky cut off during the struggle with Comstock is the reason she has the powers that she does
Anna / Elizabeth was my first (and only) video game character crush until I realised she was bookers daughter then I felt like those creepy uncles you here of . . . But she was definitely the best npc in the bioshock universe
The one thing I hate about Burial at Sea is the Fitzroy retcon. Up until then, you got to see two different people, Fitzroy and Comstock, be all but equal mirror opposites of each other in charisma, ruthlessness, and intelligence up until that DLC where they ham in Fitzroy being the Noble Martyr for no real benefit. She had every reason to blame the son for the father's actions since he benefitted from his father's greed, going to bed each night fat and happy while young children in Finkton starved daily. It turned the Lutece Twins into these mustache-twirling villains in a way that completely spits in the face of their audio logs on the subject, Rosalind wanted nothing to do with Elizabeth and Robert wanted to save her from her situation cause he felt guilty about putting her in it. They couldn't give two shits about Comstock after the accident since it opened their minds to the infinite. In a very real sense, he and Fink did them a favor.
I HATE Firtzroy, I wanted to kill that SOB so hard, they can turn them into a Martyr all they want, its still not noble, just a pawn, doesn't even justify their reasons. She would totally kill the innocent child, despite what she says, she had no remorse, she is the real villain of the game. All the other characters died in remorse. I hated she more than I hate Atlas.
@@doggoboggo3140 yeah, I played it. but still a pawn. which is kind of the usual from any revolutionary. revolutionaries are anti-heroes and they only bring destruction, they have no vision for constructing another thing in its place like villains. they just want to spill blood for the sake of it. oh how I hate them.
@@doggoboggo3140 Daisy was always an antihero. She confirmed in a Voxophone that she didn’t kill Lady Comstock, only found the body. Wrong place, wrong time, that sort of thing
I loved the Burial at Sea DLC and the part in Bio 2 when you are a little sister; getting a look at Rapture before it went to total shit. Wish they would just allow you to explore the whole city in that state, but what a massive project that would be for developers and designers.
Your not alone I mean i did not even know bioshock infinite was the 3rd game because I only owned that one on my Xbox 360 without the dlc But since a week I again started with infinite but now starting with bioshock and bioshock 2 I actually played when it was on Xbox game pass
I really like your video. Finally someone who still likes this franchise and you also have a nice voice to listen to while doing schoolwork and just to chill to
Elizabeth didn't deserve the ending :( Poor Liz just wants to go to Paris Apart from the ending being hard pill to swallow, this game is very good from both graphic and gameplay and it offers a choice, either you want to play it close quarter combat counterstrike style or go berserk with vigors. I just really hope that the next Bioshock offers more choice to weaponery, maybe increase the amount to 3 holdable weapons Also it would be nice if the next Bioshock also have some nice small details as a nod to some of the characters on Bioshock, Bioshock 2 and Infinite
Also during the events of Burial at Sea part 2 it's pretty heavily hinted at that song bird has a human operating it in some way. I wonder who that person is
A month after finishing my first run of Infinite as a whole, Elizabeth's ending still hit me harder than a brick to the face, which partially helped the ending of the original Bioshock felt more satisfying to me personally... even though the original had recently become one of my favourite games of all time alongside Fallout: New Vegas. It takes a lot to make me feel "Damn, I'm depressed now, I need to watch a huge chunk of Filthy Frank to cheer me up", which partially helped. In a nutshell, Elizabeth became one of my favourite characters.
Imagine this BioShock hub Atlas hits Elezibeth with a wrench she falls and dies but wakes up which means she didn't die then she goes to Fort Frolic and runs into Jack
I completed the game on 1999 mode 4 separate times. Twice on the 360 to get the achievement for completing the game on 1999 mode, and then again on 1999 mode without using any dollar bill machines. And then twice again on the bioshock collection on xbox one for the same reasons. Yes, it was very, very frustrating.
I liked the video, I don’t think there’s a video you have made that I have disliked. But while I enjoyed the video I can see again the inconsistencies between Burial At Sea and the original Bioshock. But again, the video was awesome!
I believe that just as Booker returned back before Anna got taken and now that Comstock is dead and unable to take Anna from him i believe she also returned back when she was a baby I'd say this might be the "happy" ending that the creators thought of but its just a theory
I’d like to think that the versions of Elizabeth and Booker/Comstock we see in both the main game and the dlc HAD to die in order for their infinite doors to all shut and merge into a single door, instead of being a tortured soul with a missing pinkie who’s locked in a tower for most of her life...Elizabeth now goes by Anna and is happily sitting in Paris with booker living the life she spent countless years and countless universes dreaming about and trying to get to. No tower. No songbird. No Comstock. No Vox Populi. No pain. No war. No death. Just a normal girl in Paris, listening to Edith Piaf play on a nearby record player as she watches the sun rise over the Eiffel Tower, unknowingly having her picture drawn by an artist sitting nearby. No longer wearing the bird pendant or the cage pendant, she the pendant of HER choice. Does this make sense given the lore infinite gave us? No. Does it make sense scientifically? No. But is it the happy ending Elizabeth and Booker deserve? Yes.
With what cash is single father Booker going to travel and live in Europe? Elizabeth would be 22 when Edith Piaf was born and 46 when the Nazis occupy Paris...I don't really think she would have the rosiest life either way...
i always loved elizabeth as an inpc cause reason 1 she's a very well writen charactar reason 2 she matures throughout the main game reason 3 she's just a good charactar well erik i hope your doin well take care man.
A theory: the universes of Bioshock Infinite & Burial At Sea are relatively new. Why? Because, the Rapture & There's Something At Sea timelines were all in the mid to late 20th century while Infinite was in the late 19th/early 20th century
The thing that confuses me about Elizabeth's ability is what is being altered: in the main game you can surmise that its time since you're viewing points where something has happened, like the death of Chen Lin or Booker's death. But during the DLC, she mentions other universes, so is that also being altered when she opens tears? The ability to hop to another universe like America Chavez in Marvel?
I love the story I just wish you could have played as Elizabeth instead so I could be the good guy instead of dying as a bad guy it makes me feel like a bad person playing as booker lol
I would of enjoyed that dynamic of the game as well. It'd be a bit like the Last of Us where we got to play as Ellie for quite a time period in the game. It's the role reversal of the main characters.
Probably yes. But as after titles scene have shown us, that maybe Booker and Anna are living together and start new life. I hope it could be real continue of their story.
Thought I was going crazy for a minute until i reqound and confirmed you repeated section of the script right after reading it the first time. Lol Guess you accidentally opened a tear to your very recent past.
Subscribed! I just finished up Infinite (I'm late to the party, I know), and I love the Bioshock series. I really enjoyed this video💕 Constructive criticism: Maybe try splitting long videos into parts next time. It seemed like you had some difficulty with the script, repeating and/or mis-speaking words or having random unnatural pauses. Please don't take offense. These are simply my observations and opinions; my advice comes from someone who thoroughly enjoyed your video. Bottom line: Ultimately, the few mistakes paled in comparison to the positives. Your explanation of Elizabeth's story(ies) through the worlds was both entertaining and enlightening😊 I can't wait to watch more of you😁👍
So I don't know what to think about booker. Is he a bad guy? And did Elizabeth kill him because she hated him or did she have to for some other reason?
Def a scumbag, but he did have some redeeming qualities. She killed the first Booker because it was the only way to stop Comstock from existing, the second one though she did because she became sort of deranged and blinded by bloodlust. She herself realized it in the second DLC, that all her plotting to get DeWitt dead was unecessarily cruel and pointless, and that she had been perpetuating the Wheel of Blood.
I really like lore sadly there aren't meanny people whom share this with me I'm happy I found a channel with like minded people keep up with the videos please
The French revolution settled with the Terror before Napoleon did the coup, Vox's revolution never did and would had ended up with Columbia plummeting from the sky. The French revolution was a sh*tshow, but compared to Vox's at least it did have an objective beyond "let's kill all rich people" (in fact it was mostly rich people killing richer people)
"Finally Bringing an End to the Cycle of Violence" I mean I guess. To do so she had to help instigate the start of a civil war that utterly destroyed Rapture and caused the deaths of countless innocents, including a shit ton of children, a good portion of whom were young girls, like Sally, who were turned into little sisters to help Ryan with said war effort. But hey...Sally lived... and the cycle of violence was ended...Until a decade later with the events of Bioshock 2, but Kenny doesn't give a shit about Bioshock 2 so fuck it.
I try to do my best in post-production but it's hard. In my grandpa's house when the heat kicks on, we have loud vents. So that's probably what you're hearing in the background of my videos. I only have a certain time window to try and make videos, usually between midnight-3am, but he has it to where the heat kicks on every ten minutes. So, it gets pretty frustrating after a while. I'm sorry if that made the quality of the video go down. I'll try my best to do better in future videos.
@@TheBioshockHub i love your videos and i was talking about the gameplay during your explaining i keep hearing booker and elizabeth while you explain important stuff
@@RebirthOG I'll try to look for a past broadcast for you. I'll edit this with a link when I find that! Part 1 - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YqX3Dx5_zT0.html Part 2 - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZBbmD8WSICY.html
What I hate the most about infinite is the ending, both for Booker & for Elizabeth in the DLC. You get no choice for a GOOD or BAD ending just "Hey you know how you had a choice to be bad & get a bad ending or vice versa for a good one? Yeah, not here buddy both of them are going bye bye" Got the collection bundle for 10 buck's on sale (PS4) in order to scratch that nostalgia itch (Bio 1 & 2 plus infinite) Only downloaded 1 & 2, infinite aka the black sheep to me can stay in the downloadable application section. Columbia is beautiful but that's about it imo. To each his own.
Gunplay was fun and Elizabeth was a great improvement of the Alyx Vance model for AI companions, but Infinite dragged on a lot. As for the endings, well, BaS's didn't make much sense (I mean, Elizabeth is the best looking 65 year old I've seen, and Booker in his 80's looks a lot better than she does in her 80's) but Infinite did have to end like that, keep in mind it was Booker's choice to die, Elizabeth asked him a coulle of times if that was what he really wanted...
Right no one has to believe me but for anyone that dose care, When i played this back in 2014, what happend to Lizy really upset me to the point where i was a HUGE mess. So to fix this my sister very kindly E-Mailed ken levine to ask if Lizy had really died. And luck have it he asked my sister for our home number and he called us, Long story shot lizy can never really die so somewhere there is a happy ending, where she Lived a Happy life. i forget the way he put it, but he went in to the theory behind it. and it did make sense. So she did live a happy Life. Lived in Paris. Just Lived her life. as we all wanted. So for anyone who cares i just wanted to let you all know.
Are you happier thinking on Elizabeth being in her 50's during the Nazi occupation of France? Really? Her and Booker did have a happy ending, Elizabeth basically made it so every reality where Booker sold her to Comstock didn't come to pass. As for the Paris thing? Europe in the early and mid 20th century wasn't the best place to live, and France was a literal warzone twice.
Wait wait wait, so Infinite put the real ending in DLC!? WFT!? Just like Dead Space 3, jeez! Well at least all of the dlc is included in tge collection, I get a graphics update and dlc!
It puts an end to Columbia's Elizabeth...while breaking a metric ton of other stuff in both Infinite and Bioshock 2. It's fun, and I liked playing Elizabeth a lot, but the game didn't make much sense, starting by the fact that Booker is in his 80's by 1958 and Elizabeth is supposed to be 65.
I enjoyed infinite but I hated the gameplay. It seemed so dumbed down. And I really didnt like burial at sea. 1 or 2. They seemed so lazily made to me.
(Booker I am not gonna let you Kill him) (Elizabeth Really Booker What Are you gonna Do To Stop Me Summoning an Tornado Storm 🌪💦⚡️) (Booker Not a Damn thing that's Why I am Going to Do it For You)
I'm still angry that I didn't get to kill that Fitzroy SOB. I got so mad because she stole my zeppelin, she was no better. I would make a deal with Fink himself to kill her if I had a choice.
