BIRACIAL VS BLACK: Who Has The Privilege? | STRANGER FRUIT | S1E13 

A lot of people online are saying that race is a phenotype, and not an ancestry. Well, this comment makes it seem like race *is* an ancestry. So, what is race? A phenotype? Or an ancestry? A lot of biracial people phenotypically look only black. Very few look only like their other race, and then there are those of us who look like both. There are also people whose parents are not of a different race from each other, but who look mixed, or even another race. So, what to make of that? Lastly, we know that race used to be decided legally in the United States, so how about that? Most black people (namely dark skin women who are upset, yeah I said it) are saying to get rid of the one-drop rule. Fine. Are you ready for that? Are you ready to give up every single person who isn't either phenotypically unambiguous, or whose ancestry is only African black??? That's a lot more people than you realize. And then what, basically, just the dark-skins are left?? And what are they gonna do. Finally sit around and say: we're all black, hooray! This is bullshit. Mixed people...ARE BLACK! Even if the experience isn't the same.

​@@jays-move8803 Gaslighting and projecting much?😂

@@jays-move8803 I would say “Go AWWF” but you already did. Have a great Mother’s Day weekend

@@jays-move8803 You😂

@@firstladychosen186 lmao

Weird how it never happens huh. They like to use phrases like "divisive" and 'your own people' when having conversations with black people on this topic, which is a subtle way to keep pushing themselves onto black people, a way of reinforcing this idea that they're somehow black when they're not. Basically trying to assert themselves as black without having the conversation

You know they wanna upset massa. Up in the big house.

@@ShaneM420 They better leave us alone cause it's tiring.

Won't happen they'll be quick to disregard them. In fact, some are even angry they're created. It's natural for folks racial or others to want offspring like they're culture and heritage. It's a sad but human experience.

It's not the same kind of battle because that's not what white means. European and white aren't the same. The social construct of the white race comes from a germanic, anglo-saxon context. The concept was made to separate anyone of color and or negro features from the concept of whiteness. There was even a time when italians weren't considered white because of some of their ethnic features and them being darker than other europeans on average

ikr! Biracials are NOT black and society is using them as buffers to not address what monoracials go through! Blacks need to gatekeep their race so you don't have a confusion with counting biracials as Black yet still don't feel represented! Notice how even White passing Biracials do NOT have White people confused about ish lol

biracial means 2 races. hope this helps.

When that's the side that acknowledging more, then that's all u know unless ur parent tells u bout them but if that side of the family treating ur baby funny u probably don't wanna talk abt them anyways so it leaves in a weird space of just acknowledging the side that accepts u more, even if it comes with some bad like some thinking u bougie or better than others because the dominant society holds u in higher regard.

@@TalentedKamarty true because a lot of times biracials are rejected by the white side so they are more closer to the Black side.

Racist.

she was just describing how a 10 year old chooses to embrace his black side. weirdo

It actually does. Black “persona” comes from jazz, soul and hip hop. So yes our swag and our dialect which is AAVE is Founded by guess who? Black people. We made it. It’s us.

Well, it actually does. The same way that liking Reggaeton or Bachata has something to do with you being latin/S.American. Or how liking folklore has something to do with you being scandanavian. Hip hop has roots in the black american culture. Every black person does not like the same genre of music. But there are certain things that were born out of our culture and who's historical origns can be traced right back to black american people. When you define black culture, the origin of hip hop is a part of it. We do not have to deny our own culture, just because we are ashamed of some negativities associated with it. Nobody would have hip hop if it were not for Black Americans. I don't see how the music genre has nothing to do with being black if black Americans literally have everything to do with it's creation AND popularity world-wide.

Yes it does. Hip Hop music was created by African Americans.

For real!!!

My daughters are mixed, Puerto Rican and Trinidadian and 1 thing I make sure they do is embrace every part that makes them who they are, my daughters are equally with both side of her family and she is simply mixed and loves all things Puerto Rican and trini that way when she gets older she can confidently say I embrace all sides that make up who I am, one of the guys here said why can’t I just pick to be black I don’t care about the other parts who make up who I am cause I identify as black and that really made me sad cause he should feel comfortable in embracing all sides of him

@@immealldayeveryday9425 What you are doing is Amazing! Not only are you raising your daughters with pride and love but you are also making sure they will never go through identity issues/crisis. People who grow up with identity issues /confused about who or what they are, are more likely to end up resenting one part or both parts of themselves and its sad. Im half PR too and my other half is BR. All the biracial and generationally mixed people in my family identify as biracial or mixed race and they embrace and love it. Meanwhile the US often act as if biracial is some bad or evil word to go by. Now to make it more "PC" people will say they are a "black biracial" or "biracial black" thats like having a mestizo mexican call themselves a white native american. I dont know what problem americans have with the identity Biracial/Mixed race

That makes me get to my point of Shayvon. She identifies as biracial or multiracial but she is 75% + black. Why is she not saying she is black?

@@sadesuarez2954 ye I feel that it comes from a place where they are with one side of their family most of the time instead of both, and that’s why it’s very important for me that my daughters are raised equally with both sides of her families that way this is not an issue, it’s sad that in the states people often pick a side to embrace and it should not be that way cause they should be able to equally embrace all side that make up who they arw

@@immealldayeveryday9425 Yayy!! We need more parents like you.

Biracial man here. I know what you mean. After being called red and light skinned by elders, peers, and family since i was born I found some resolve with just being Black too. Helps save an argument and unnecessary headaches😂

Do black people have to listen to it? Because the problem is biracial folk coop the black experience ie anything Kenya Barris creates

I just hate the dismissal of struggle. Just cause me as a darkskin man go through shit because of my skintone doesn't mean ur experience ain't shit because ur lighter than me. That's ass. That lightskin individual probably got the "U think u too good for us" "U think cause u got good hair n light eyes u special" "U soft ass lightskin nigga, ol Drake ass nigga" a meme like "Lightskin dudes fall like this *elegant fall*" 😂 n some of this is jokes but some of that cuts deep for them n I'd be an asshole to dismiss that or compare trauma. What they experienced mightve had them 2 minutes away from hitting the delete button on themselves like what I experienced mightve had the same impact even tho both r different

@@TalentedKamarty This made my eyes tear. Thank you. ☺

Agreed!

Agreed. I think she is a wonderful mom. I would like to add it's not necessarily the parents who "force" biracial people to pick a side...it tends to be how the world views them that dictates what side they take. Examples such as Megan Markle and Halle Berry. Both biracial however, I remember Halle Berry stating in an interview that she identified as black because she knew that's how the world perceived her.

Thank you, this is the part people keep missing.

​@@chara8231 I understand the point "Biracial people tend to pick a side based on how the world views them." but that does not age well and I really wish Black people would stop saying that. Yes, I understand the saying is true, but it's up to Biracial people to choose their own trajectory. There is nothing wrong with a Biracial person identifying as a Black biracial as long as they understand when it's all said and done they are biracial no matter how melanated they are. I think of Biracials like Drake and it's so embarrassing and disappointing that he thought just because he was melanated he was going to have a melanated son. That lets me know that Drake doesn't view himself as a biracial man despite him having a white mother, sure he we will acknowledge his mother and her culture but because he feels like he is dark enough he does not get take into account his biracial identity and how that will affect his offspring if he procreates with white women. Drake had a whole biracial identity crisis when his white son was born and hip-hop laugh at him about it despite them black manning him his whole career because he looks like someone who gets stopped by the police. It was pathetic that Black women were getting mad at Drake for being attracted to white women when his mother is white. It made zero sense for Black women to hold him to the same standards as they would a Black man. I just feel like when melanated biracial steps out into the scene all logic gets thrown out because they look like could be one of your cousins and that is dangerous. Here is another example, Tamera Morry. She has always been known as the black twin, the black community always referred to her as the black one but she just recently made black women mad for calling her new hair care line a product made for black women. Every black woman in her comments instantly reminded her that day she was biracial and her hair was not black hair but that's what the community has been telling her, her whole life. Acknowledging biracial people as biracial is important. I don't have a problem with biracial Identifying as Black biracial as long as they know at the end of the day they are biracial. When you know who you are you will not be able to let people tell you otherwise. I love biracial women like Zendaya and Mariah Carey. Despite how they are perceived, and the discrimination they face, they never hesitate to let anybody know they are biracial and they don't mind telling black people or white people to fuck off when they feel like they are being pushed inside of a box of being a white woman or a black woman.

​@@chara8231 that's really true in America only

​@@disorientedbutterfly As far as Drake and Common both are problematic to Black women and a waste of time.

stop calling someones blessing a privilege so embarrassing what BP are doing these days

The prejudice you face is a little bit like pretty privilege. Some people will not like you because of your privilege. But overall your privilege far outweigh the prejudice you face.

@@user-Mimi622 Every compares themselves to everyone, even if they are not trying to do it consciously. That is just human nature. And to be be frank, comparison is no always a bad thing. It is by comparing how you are treated as opposed to other people that you can see when you are being discriminated against. Jealousy over someone who is being treated better than you for something you cannot control is tiring yes, but it's a natural feeling. No one likes feeling this way and no one wants to be in this position. So yeah if you're an ugly girl, jealousy over pretty girls is tiring, but it's natural when you've seen countless times how you've been passed up for opportunities that have been given freely to less deserving but prettier girls. Again, no one likes being treated unfairly, and feelings of jealousy and envy are completely normal.

​@@pr1.8ijmk it's so funny because I don't think privilege exists because people hold colours go things

​@@pr1.8ijmkit's like people believe in these things. This is why racism still exists

but yet so talented

Bless you sister ! They are BIRACIAL and that's all right.

I agree here

Beyoncé, Nicki Minaj, Cardi b, Latto, Justine Skye, Zoe Kravitz, Ice Spice, even Ryan Destiny. The list goes on and on. They love to point out biracial people when they're lightskin only.

@@genevaxo Be careful who you assume is bi-racial just because of how they look. Beyonce is Black. Both her parents are Black. Just because her mother is Creole does not mean that her mother has a white parent. The percentage of your DNA is irrelevant if all your ancestors you can trace are light skinned, Black Americans.

My current bf is white and as a dark skinned young bw under 21, im always worried my children will turn out like that. my worst fear bc that would mean I didn’t do my job as a parent. I can’t stand when biracial/light skinned blacks say there is no privilege bc of how they look. You may not see it but don’t gaslight the rest of us who can.

@@trxphywaifalt Right and even if they don’t feel that way, still they shouldn’t even say that. To me that’s so disrespectful like what world do they live in. I feel like as long as you tell your kids who they are but also remind them of our ancestors struggles, they’ll be fine. Some people with biracial kids just have them and don’t even talk about black history to them. That’s a big mistake right there.

@@trxphywaifalt But also don't gaslight those of us who are living in our experience, and you don't realistically do the research to understand what we deal with. I don't think I have some powerful and substantial privilege. That hasn't been my life. I think being passing makes my life worse. I am also gay, and that makes it difficult to sus out the value of my so-called light-skinned, or biracial, or white-passing privilege. I certainly think I have it, for example, if I travel abroad to countries that aren't black. But even in Russia, I was being called out for being half black, even vocally once by a stranger when I was walking around outside.

@@jays-move8803 privilege is invisible to those that have it my friend. Privilege is always in juxtaposition to others so while you might not be getting roses thrown at your feet when you want I’d argue that your dark skin counterparts experience things more adversely. Like I don’t feel privileged as a dark skinned black man but I know when traveling abroad I have American privilege my non American friends don’t get

Lmao which privilege. Everyone has a gift. You either choose to see or you dont. I hv seen drop dead gorgeous dark girls literal goddesses but only the girls that see their own beauty enjoy the privileges that come with it. The ones who dont, dont enjoy the beauty. They dont see when men open doors for them. They dont see when recruiters call them back for jobs. They dont see when neighbors marvel at their uncommon beauty. My millionaire brother married a drop dead dark senegalese babe. I cant put how beautiful she is into words. And walks like a goddess. No eyelashes no wigs but she stops everyone on their tracks when she walks into every room. Every single time. I dont believe in this biracial bs.

my thoughts exactly

Never confused honey I have empathy for HUMAN beings which biracial people are. There is nothing confusing about acknowledging EVERYONEs pain yall gotta really grow a heart

@@inikkivalentinex ma'am, you already said on instagram that the only reason we talk about Biracial people is because we feel "threatened" and we victimize ourselves. I've heard everything I needed to hear from you. Be blessed.

​@@inikkivalentinex nah they just need to grow up. The whole "you can't sit here" mindset is childish.

Do you believe biracial people are in the way of the black communities progress? Is that way it’s the number one topic

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I don’t even know why he said that because Huey P Newton, Malcolm X. and Muhammad Ali are Lightskin . It doesn’t get much more harder

@@brothertspoon5899because he wasn’t saying he’s a dark nxgga as in his complexion , dark as in the acts he would commit…some of y’all are the dumbest smart ppl ever

And light skin people talk about there issues and there belittled and shut down. Dark skin women aren’t silenced content creators have built a huge platform (with 100 of thousands sometimes even millions) of followers and subscribers specifically talking about issues that black and dark skin people go through. The truth is light skin people are bullied just as much as dark skin girls

Couldn’t agree with you more

Yes she’s caping because of her personal experience with her sister

@@fan7708 no they are not 😭😭 mixed people are praised for their existence, their features, and everything else and yeah SOMEtimes ppl will have a personal vendetta against them but that’s because at the same time that person is being degraded for their features in contrast to biracial features. Please stop it. The collective experience of mixed identity is positive. Being so disingenuous saying “oh my overall experience of being mixed is bad because I’m being praised for my features :(“

@@WesleyLindsey What does that have to do with them being embraced into the culture?

You said everything I wanted to say PERFECTLY. It’s really indicative that they got a panel full of mixed ppl and ppl with close proximity to mixed ppl and the conversation turned into how tragic being mulatto is and how black people just HATE them… while they were raised and praised by black people, on a black channel, talking to black people. I’m sorry but you’re not gonna convince me that being mixed actually gives you a WORSE experience in the black community. It was even crazy at the very end when the main guy said that in the future most people will be mixed like please relax 😭😭 like we have to cater to their whims. Someone check the data!!

@@WesleyLindsey Even if more biracial people are born. Because of anti blackness in a few generations they will just look like Megan Markle’s kids. That’s something that is not talked about. Lol.

Thank you! Mixed people are litterally forced onto black people against our will BECAUSE OF white people. They threw the rock and hid their hands. It's time mixed people stand up to white people, hold them accountable, and do what's right, which is allow us to rebuild our damaged community.

EXACTLY

Well said!!!

And, why can't they build their own platforms and forums to advocate for their issues i addition to having access to resources in BOTH black AND white communities?!!

This the one.

I've traveled the word. And dark skinned people are treated far worse in every culture I've seen than their light-skinned counterparts. So, I'm sorry but I don't feel sorry for light-skinned people on any level about any thing really, they might not be accepted by whites but none of us are. However, they are privileged in many other ways for greater than a brown-dark skinned person.

The, "Not black enough," issue is specific to interactions with the black community. Outside of that, biracial people are definitely black enough and experience anti-black discrimination and violence. Daunte Wright.

Also, some Black ppl don’t even feel “Black enough” because of their personality or interests. We need to focus on their experience with not feeling Black enough. If a biracial person doesn’t feel Black enough, its probably because you are not!

Exactly lol.

It always has to be black ppls problem I swear 😂😂😂💀

Its not we are all on our own, we are doing what willi lynch predicted the physcological war fair is real.

There should not be a space needed to create. Just accept people's human beings if you get along.

@@theresahaley2992 Tell that to other races as well 😏

Saying biracial twice makes no sense. Biracial is a description not an identity. It’s mean you have two races and unique to both whether socially or culturally accepted or not

@@brothertspoon5899 Oh really!? LOL 😆 sooo what race are they? FYI, My race is part of my identity.

​@@brothertspoon5899 Every country outside of america has mixed communities, that are (rightfully) categorised separately.

And politics

But who’s in charge of the media? Biracial people?

@@meme-fs1jn not blaming them but when the Black/Puerto Rican brought up at that he lost out on media jobs because he was not perceived as Black enough my mind didn’t immediately see the oversaturation of dark skin folks.

Their beauty is so usual and common now. Nothing special to me

@@Salutations26 I get it. Have you ever wondered if the media has a agenda? Why the over use of biracial people. I see it to . But why? White people know the difference between biracial and black. Why would they choose over and over to use biracial people??

I mean if the Holy Trinity is 3 people in 1, my mom is Black, then I think I’m being pretty generous by identifying as biracial/mixed race. Plus, I have a famous painting of me as Thor crushing ice giants😂

Agree, and also interracial marriages are more prone to violence, drug use, and divorce (per statistics), and so no, we definitely get the WORST of both worlds statistically on the home front. The only "make up" for it is looks, and even that is spinning the wheel (cause not all biracial people are a 10/10 on looks).

I agree.

Looks By Naheemah You are absolutely correct 💯. The woman in the red is promoting a biracial superiority to full Blacks. Be careful what you teach your children.

@@the2ndcoming135 what are you even talking about!!??????????

📌 Point Taken. They are not only hijacking the identity of bw but also light skinned bw/people as well. .They been on that, that's why I never liked the grouping terms where predominately blk people are not solely represented like Poc, malenated to now being used by anybody with the slightest pigment who choose to claim blk by identifying as such. My point, If it's impossible for them to claim negro they ain't blk and if they have to identify as blk they ain't but as their numbers undoubtedly increases due to the self hate of the original blk people, they will in time be given a name to match their growing identity whereas they won't feel entitled to take others who's been here forever.

I agree some lightskinned people need to be on the panel. But people call light biracial lightskinned too sometimes.

Biracial people come in a light skinned and dark skinned variety of hues.

@@MedusasSnakePit Of course but predominately blk is predominately blk

There was a light skinned Black woman on the panel, but her mother is biracial and her father is Black.

thank you for explaining. Learned something new

The "eve gene" is just another excuse for black women to claim that anyone can have blonde hair and blue eyes so they dont have have to embrace their natural kinky hair and ethnic features. It's deep rooted self hatred. It's ridiculous.

Exactly so called Eve gene🧬, and the celebration of the concept, is only giving praise to the historical sexual violation that white men have been doing onto melanated women on all continents! Still most people have no idea what "Racial BLANQUEAMIENTO" is 🤦🏿‍♂️

I’m not a doctor but even I know what she said didn’t sound accurate. Thank you for clarifying

thank you. i agree

Exactly

This is an EXCEPTION, not the rule. In general, Biracial people look Biracial.

Still biracial and speak about your own experiences in your own spaces

Your last sentence is sooo true!

I miss her, she was my favorite 🙏🏾🤎

This what people cant seem to understand: being put on a pedestal simply for looking a certain way is UNCOMFORTABLE and RACIST. Black men thinking that putting down Black women is some kind of complement to biracial women is DISGUSTING and RACIST not to mention divisive. I think Black mens internalized self hatred needs to be addressed because as a biracial woman, their "preferences" are toxic and harmful. Being put on a pedestal at the expense of your identity and community does not feel good. Biracial people are not blind to how we are being used to fuel anti-blackness in our own community and it hurts.

Girl what😂 go ahead and log out for me. I pray for this next generation of this is your mindset. “They need a category of their own” why shouldn’t they embrace the two cultures that they apart? How is it a privilege to be apart of two cultures when neither embraces you?

This sounds so bitter, how do you hear about someone being bullied and come up with this?!?! Its HUMAN beings job to accept other HUMANS

@@fan7708she never said that mixed folk shouldn’t embrace both sides. she said they should ALSO look to their white side and hold them to the same standard. often and like most of the people on this panel stated “they aren’t concerned with white people” but expect black people to be loving and accepting without question and it’s a clear double standard.

@@dawnether8407 “Bi racial’s need a category of their own”

@@fan7708 that doesn’t mean that they are excommunicated from the black community 😂 but they have their own unique experiences that are different from the black community and that needs to be acknowledged in their own spaces not brought up only when black people are talking about their own unique struggles

Literally the whole “I’m mixed and didn’t ask for this privilege” is no different than modern day white ppl saying they were born white and didn’t ask for the benefits of white supremacy… as they soak in all the benefits.

I was so thankful she was there! Dr. Donna is always 10 toes down for dark skin people! Thankful for her.

right! it's like comparing a life threatening situation to a minor incovenience. When I was younger, I looked a little more ambiguous so I got the teasing lol... You think you're this or that because of your hair etc. Don't get me wrong; it's harmful. But it's not the same as being seen as a threat or being hunted down because of how you look. And some of these biracial people sound exactly like poor whites when we talk about white privilege. I had to do this and do that to make it. We didn't have this or that. And it's true, and that experience is VALID. But you didn't also have the pressure of navigating an unambiguous black existence on top of that. It's like they are seeking validation for a situation that we've already recognized is valid. Now, move out the way so that we can focus on the real fight lol. Don't talk about an oppression olympics because dark skin people gonna take home the gold every time with that.

@@brittanyholland9540This sounds like you are happy about finally being first at something.

@@AdoraBangles lol that's a weird conclusion to draw from that comment.

I think simply because It's biracial vs black. Not biracial vs white. I wish they also talked about how black men create this hierarchy, causing divide between light skin and dark skin women in the black community.

@@AsèUnderground black ppl are the most welcoming ppl!! So it’s bazaar , while saying they called them selves black and only being apart of the black community. They dnt feel welcome !!! BY WHO ?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@Empress of Life Okay so this is a complicated topic. Part of me has to disagree because I've gone through not being seen or accepted by black people until people meet my mom. (Because a lot of us are very ignorant about genetics and assume I have a white parent. Which I don't but my father is biracial) The other part of me understands exactly what you are saying because historically, the black community is very accommodating to other ethnicities almost to a fault.

@@AsèUnderground I get it my oldest brother is biracial!! He is yt passing !! But he was never not excepted by our community!! He got push back when it came to his yt side !! They definitely abandoned/never claimed him!!

Honestly the light vs dark debate is mad distracting. I think we should focus on how black immigrants are granted more power and media attention than ADOS (African descendents of American slavery). I would like to see the statistics of how many of us who are descendants of slaves in the United States are given economic opportunities in media, politics, education etc and maybe I'm wrong and creating tribalism ?? But why are we not questioning resources from those whose bloodline deserves proper reparations in America?

Like in the D 🇩🇴 Republic .? Black roots, but things there white? Nope prefer as biracial man, as Black. And I raised up, in a non black country. Germany 🇩🇪. We calling ourselves Afro-Germans

It’s also gaslighting for blacks to reject biracial ppl then expect them to 100% claim their blackness. They can’t have their cake and eat it too. How do you expect me to claim the part of me that’s black if y’all don’t consider me as one? Of course I’m not going to represent if they don’t even claim me lol Makes no sense. And it’s common sense that dark skinned black folks experience racism a lot worse. No one is denying that. But to dismiss me and my pain is grimy af.

Nope black is black stop dividing people

@@pr1.8ijmk Definitely divisive and reducing Black political power. If you try to separate Black and mixed into 2 different categories you're going to lose so much Black history.

@@pr1.8ijmk Slippery slope that's being pushed. You might get sisterhood for a while, but you're ultimately going to lose a massive chunk of Black history, accomplishments and achievements if you start saying you want to separate from Mixed Black people. And I'm talking from Slavery era Frederick Douglas to BoB Marley to Louis Farrakhan to Boris Kodjoe and a vast amount of celebrities, entertainers, famous doctors, NAACP leaders and Civil Right activists, HBCU founders and more. I'm sorry, but I'm never going to support this division. You will be dramatically reducing our numbers which will in turn reduce our political power in the country.

Y'all opinions on us...are weird. I'll just say that.

@@jays-move8803 I’m not biracial but I agree with you. generalizations like this are very weird

@@jays-move8803who’s the “y’all” and “us”? What am I? Please tell me the assumption you made based on my comment…

@@larsattackk, Caped Crusader 😂

​@@jays-move8803You need to be specific, because otherwise this just comes off as dismissive and condescending gaslighting.

Seriously it’s so annoying and tone deaf

Most of the participants are tethers that is why.

@Bee R exactly and thank you for fessing up to it too. This video and a lot of the comments are trying to make it seem like the biracial experience is just as bad if not worse than the black one and that is LITERAL colorism gaslighting and erasure.

@Bee R ​ maybe in white spaces however in a good amount of black spaces light skinned ppl are discriminated against & rightfully so but it really depends on the spaces your in. I’m only in black spaces so I get treated in a way that shames me for my light skin & I understand why. It’s definitely a necessary layer of protection however to say the pain from those experiences isn’t that bad is negligent. It might not be your experience but those experiences are painful.

@Bee R I also am commenting after watching the first video & I haven’t seen this video yet however in black spaces the discrimination is high, which is honestly just social evolution.

The biracial experience IS NOT the Black experience. That is correct!

@@NoName-mc7wd Get a life!!

Yes 👏

No, the Biracial and Black experience is not the same. You don’t know what it’s like to experience being mono racial, so please explain how you’re the authority on being Black? Because White people are racist? That’s doesn’t define Blackness.

@@j.rising7286 And you are an authority on the biracial experience?! Getting up in your feelings thinking you're making some valid point! 😂😂.

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This explains so much of what so many don't have the words for.

This is it!! Like we really are fighting for our lives in these white spaces.

i'm soo glad🙏🏽i always am a little apprehensive to comment or express myself because i don't want to piss anybody off or seem tone deaf but i also keep feeling like a huge part of anti-blackness is being excused under the idea of "its not as bad as mine". I think a lot of biracial people are trying to agree rather than compare but there is a real resistance to this.

This was a discussion that needed to have several series. The guy said "everything is not just black and white" And to me that sums it up. Because to me that is the main issue with the discussion. People think experiences are monolithic. Not every lsbp and biracial has the same experience as each other. Not all dsbp have the same experiences. Colonization did a number on the world and created so much confusion and division. Yet we get in these spaces frequently but don't give others the voice they need to express their own lived truth, we are easily offended etc. We minimize and conclude. We discuss our perspective and decide if we want to accept the other persons. That's not how resolution is made or conflict resolved and understanding is reached. So that makes me question is resolution the goal? This was good but could of been longer. Its okay to not agree. Again, its a lot to unpack. Are we expecting to have all the answers in this generation and it took 400 + yrs to get here? The elephant is White Supremacy and it never enters the chat. Without the key players this convo can have no depth because colorism is a result of racism and lsbp and biracial ppl are not the ones upholding it systematically. There's a missing party.

@@CandyCoated96 whew you said it all right here🎯🎯🎯 your last 3 sentences really hit the nail on the head perfectly! You are absolutely right.

Sucks not being cuddled and told you’re handsome huh?💆🏽‍♂️

without her it would’ve mainly been a panel of mixed people and black people with close proximity to mixed people crying about how tragic it is to be mulatto. (Yawns)

@@WesleyLindsey yes exactly! They’re talking about their personal experiences and it’s like noo!! We’re talking about STRUCTURAL oppression. It’s bigger than you!

@@asiaokao8534 right! Even with their personal experiences you can’t convince me being mixed is harder than being dark skin like pleaseeee, save it.

Y’all are having an oppression olympics. This conversation was purposely not about that

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There is absolutely way more dark skinned representation in wealth and in media than these people would ever be willing to admit. A dude told probably told them they were too dark, or they got passed up at work because they're black but somehow think I'm on the fast-track to CEO 😂 I know one ls, white passable, half black billionaire. The rest are all dark-skinned males. Michael Jordan and Kanye are dark-skinned males. And they are billionaires. 😅

Thank you! You can include some of our most prominent/top actors like Viola Davis, Angela Basset, Denzel. Sidney Poitier was our top Black actor for the longest. Chadwick Bozeman. I have personally seen a lot of darker brown skin professionals in many settings.

Or nah. The one drop rule upholds White racial purity while watering down Blackness until it becomes White. So actually your position helps White Supremacy.

This was the one break my heart thank you for sharing

Wtf are interratial people ?

First of all, describe what you mean? The word space sounds like an actual, physical locale. So, this is what I envision people who think that expect: that we be born into the world of our two parents, grow up, and then leave to create our own world that all biracial people can come into?

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Im making an assumption here, but i think she meant that she didn't consider her her "half" sister. Which I totally understand because when my parents split my father went on to have another daughter, and she is my sister period..

@@waheedanaomi ooooh I thought she meant she didn’t consider her biracial. I get that all my siblings are just my siblings as well even though we have different mothers.

@@waheedanaomi yeah I think she meant half-sister not half-black

That's that tether babble to just pretend stuff doesn't exist.

I said dont consider a HALF SISTER yall really listen to criticize and not understand huh?

Bro who have spaces online for US

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And it’s not like the black community doesn’t also make fun of every other shade of black person too. Darker skinned people get made fun of for their appearance and Ethnically ambiguous people get made fun of that too

Unpopular opinion, the difference in experience is due to the father. Black fathers with mixed children vs white fathers with mixed children. From my experience (im a black woman) white men tend to foster healthier relationships with their mixed children.

You are what your father is

​@@JamesBrooks-hj3dzso I'm white 💀

@@JamesBrooks-hj3dz You sound real smart...so if Jenny's presumed father is a White man she's White, right? Gtfo of here. She's Biracial as she said.

These are the most ignorant words I read for a long time

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@@zhaw4821 The world does treat folks like the reject of the world though. ALL groups have the "keep them over there" attitude. At times it's our own doing but often times it's not.

This right here is it! I can totally understand why darker skin women see black male attention as part of light skin privilege but i think most light skin and biracial people can attest to the kind of attention it really is: projection. Being light skin doesn't mean men actually like you better, it means they are trying to use your social privilege as their own. They don't see light skin women as anything other than a status symbol and i'm soo tired of people swearing up and down that this kind of self hatred ass attention is what all light skin people yearn for. It's soo cringey and embarrassing.

Also, mixed or bi-racial women are not unicorns or sexual objects to fetish. Too many of yall date to make your kids lighter or have lighter eyes. 🙄 There is a Self Hate issue that mixed and bi-racial people see upfront. That's why many don't like the constant questions about ethnicity. Seeing the self-hate up close and personal is heart breaking. I had a male tell me that he didn't date dark skin women. The catch is my mother is chocolate and so are my kids. Had to end that relationship quickly ✋🏾 and I hope more mixed women continue to not entertain such ignorance.

Somehow how I knew this will come down to a blk man even though this is not the topic. We understand after all u are not aborting us enough or the police killing us enough. So nothing strange here

@Ta M not all black men but we can not act like this doesn't happen in our communities. We have to call it out because it is part of the problem.

@@AsèUnderground I agree, so what will you tell your sisters that will not touch anything blk ? Or you still haven't come across them?

I agree 100%. It's so much anger towards the BC for not accepting, but never the same energy towards the WC. That is what confuses me

Idk why she as a darkskin woman was caping so hard for lightskin people. Colorism dosen’t go both ways, period.

Clearly you dot understand the system of white supremacy and those white people behind it 🙄

Your statement about biracial people accepting their white side if BLACK people behaved differently (in your words, “dragged for existing”), is problematic. It is precisely why biracial people are often not trusted in Black circles. Black people have done enough emotional labor and are dying at the hands of direct and systemic white supremacy. We owe biracial and, especially, white people NOTHING.

Treating white ppl like they dangerous girl wtf Is you babbling about they ARE ofc not all but a good majority it isn't blk ppls fault your mixed parents donr acknowledge a certain that's internal work that needs to be done

"we need to stop treating every white person as dangerous." Whose "we" black people or biracial people?

We've always been separate. Several hundred years of Mulatto history spread throughout just the Americas. Let's not even get started with Africa because we will have to go back to King Solomon and Queen Makeda. I wonder what race child that union made 🤔😁

Yap I caught that too😂 sis? and her biracial son are a lost cause

​@@firstladychosen186yup just a waste of time and space.😂😂😂😂

Same!

@@jays-move8803 so I have a few thoughts and I don’t mean any harm when I say them. In regards to Latin people seeming to get a pass on saying the N word, it shouldn’t be happening. I grew up in a predominantly Spanish neighborhood and grew up with them saying it, during that time I was ignorant to the weight of the word and how most Hispanics people don’t really fuck with black people but still wanna say the word. I think more and more black people are waking up to the fact that Hispanic people shouldn’t be saying it either, so I think that’s gonna get better with time. When it comes to black women, I’ll be honest, I think you might just be around the wrong type of black women, I’m also gay and black women are the only demographic that ever made me feel comfortable and made me feel like I don’t have to change to fit in with anyone. I’m not trying to dismiss your feelings with the black women around you, I’m just saying you might have to get exposed to different types of black women because they are not a monolith. And lastly it could be the fact that you switch up that makes it hard for black people around you to embrace you. For me, if I meet someone who is mixed and I see them constantly playing the fence, picking an choosing when they gonna stand with black people and when they not, I’m gonna keep my distance because (in my opinion) those types are not to be trusted. Black people can’t switch to another race to make life easier, and usually mixed people can, and often exercise their ability to do so. If that’s something I see, I’m not bothering with you. It’s not cool to want to claim blackness when it’s beneficial or when we doing some lit shit, but when the going gets tough, you run and hide. How is anyone suppose to trust someone who does that? If you truly wanna be embraced in black spaces, start with being consistent and show that your truly stand with the community.

stop making up reasons to hate those people they are both and they can live in both u sound so jealous of them

@@pr1.8ijmk Are you dumb? where did I express any hate toward them? I clearly gave a critique about how SOME biracial people move and how that can cause harm to the black community. critiques are not hate. and there is nothing to be jealous of, I love being black and having melanin, so it's no jealousy over here. try somebody else

Biracials have every right to pick and chose when they want to be a part of blackness. Why shouldn't they? Who cares about "true solidarity" from black people who do nothing for biracials except pedestalize them and then abandon them when it's time to grab an opportunity where you can claim colorism as the reason for all your problems.

​@@pr1.8ijmkJealous of what? You're begging for my blackness gtfoh😂

They act as if predominately blk people have an either or box to 0000

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I’m Black American and completely agree with you. 💯

I didn't think the one with the biracial sister was dismissive or unprofessional. I, as a biracial person, felt understood and heard finally and I hope it happens more.

Girl bye

Sounds to me like you felt uncomfortable that the woman was talking about a factual issue regarding how certain people are treated. And you wanted this to be an echo chamber so you wouldn't have to feel that way. Well, it's aint and it shouldn't be.

I COMPLETLEY AGREE with you Char A

Exactly.What’s the difference between what he said and Meghan from the podcast who spoke of reverse racism

There would be so much division. Wyt supremacists wouldn't hesitate breaking up the black community.

Amen.. also mixed black people can also experience the dehumanization that comes with racism... I've experienced it

@@naavajo the way people obsess about "how we came out" is just creepy, everyone swears we are all vain and love being put on a pedestal but i think most of us just want people to stop treating us like we chose to come out looking a certain way.

Most ppl still consider mixed ppl to be Black, its just a small group (including myself) who believes that mixed ppl should have their own category. I only see ppl who think like me online. I’ve only met one other person who agrees with me. But this ideology isn’t new. Most countries distinguish mixed ppl from Black ppl, but the U.S. likes to lump them into one category.

I do believe light skin/mixed ppl should open up about their traumas but they always bring it up as a way to delegitimize the experiences of dark skinned Black women. This is seriously counterproductive to progress, especially considering that dsbw suffer from colorism the most and therefore their struggle should be priority in the Black community. Why not save your trauma for your own platforms? Also why not share your grievances with your non-Black relatives? If your Asian relatives are racist to you, why don’t you confront them about it? Don’t you want to be accepted in the Asian community? Of course, they’re not gonna put you on a pedestal like the Black community, but they are part of your heritage

Finally a mature comment. Why do people have such a hard time doing multiple things at the same time. It is definitely possible to acknowledge mixed/light skin people have and benefit from privilege, while also acknowledging their trauma and personal experiences without diminishing or excluding the dark skin experience. This isn't hard to do, empathy goes both ways.

Yes pliz do.

We’ve seen everything they have to say on social media and in their music and in interviews…

A biracial person has two racial identities that are almost equal in percentage (ex. 55% white, 45% Black is biracial in my opinion). A biracial person can have 2 biracial parents as well.

This!

I feel like, yeah, sure, but more along the lines of telling them people may pretend to like you because of the color of your skin. I think the privilege conversation needs to be had only around one thing, wealth. Privileged black people, those who have wealth, should talk to their children about that. As far as social privilege, the ghetto is full of light-skins XD So what exactly is the privilege? I gained privilege because I'm smart and did good in school. I got a degree. Guess what, my dark-skin counterparts who majored in computer science made 6 figures out of school. I made 49k because I majored in humanities (dumb move, I can read books on my own time). In terms of police, I don't see them caring that much about color. Tamir Rice was light-skinned. This whole conversation is a waste of time. Black people need to be lifting each other up, and the biggest divider among black people is nationality and class. Most of this dark-skin business concerns African and Caribbean immigrants who are living in the US anyway. They are the ones who are bringing this up. In the US, we already came up with sexy chocolate and blacker the berry sweeter the juice. There was never a need for this. Colorism is real, especially in like the hip-hop industry, but that has a lot to do with black men feeling inferior and needing women who will make them look like they fit in. I know several dark-skin women. They are all getting plenty of dick. So no issue there. What I think the issue is is blending. Light-skin people can more so blend and seem better assimilated. I don't think we're treated well unless we reach a certain class. Right now, my dark-skinned friend is quite well paid as an attorney. He seems to get treated fairly well, and I doubt a white person would see a light-skinned black man any better. Ambiguity is its own set topic, as is having a parent who isn't black, and the possible privileges that can bring. The individual may not have privileges (yes, rich black men tend to marry white or Asian, and yes, that is for status nine times out of ten, or lifestyle), or they may. You would have to see.

@@jays-move8803 I am thinking less about anecdotal experiences - and more on the sociological findings. Peer-reviewed studies have spoken to the disparities. Even if one doesn't see it in their world - just like one may not see racism in their world - the data reveals the broader patterns.

@@phdgirl2016 exactly

@@phdgirl2016 Yes, on that I do agree. One person's experience doesn't negate the power of broader trends and findings. Those experiences and individuals could be outliers. I still remind people that Tamir Rice was a light-skinned black boy, and that the Buffalo shooter killed a biracial woman. So my conclusion is that those privileges shouldn't be worn as a shield.

The lady said it best. Let me speak for me. I know what I look like neega. You just don’t know what I am🤣

I am a mixed black person who has also felt like I had to fight for my humanity when experiencing racism.. it is not so black and white

You are lying about the privilege and that's why most of us don't see you as black

Do you now understand how annoying it is when biracial people claim to be black and act as spokespersons for the black community?

@@rl.8011 Do you understand how annoying it is for people to try to deny the blackness of biracial individuals? As if their ridiculous opinion matters. It really shows the ignorance of a person. It does not matter if you are biracial i.e. Black and Hispanic, Black and White, Black and Asian, you are a part of the black community and your experience is valid - period.

​@@gabberson13Do you understand how annoying it is for you biracials to be begging black ppl for acceptance but never have this energy for your other side?