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Bitcoin and the Blockchain Will Stomp Out Wall Street Fraud 

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Caitlin Long of Symbiont sits down with Reason's Nick Gillespie to discuss how blockchain technology can make the financial system more transparent.
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Bitcoin, the world's first and largest cryptocurrency, and the blockchain, which is its underlying technology, have the potential to change everything from record keeping to the global financial system.
The blockchain is a decentralized database that allows individuals to trade directly without the need for a third-party intermediary. Bitcoin is free-market money that runs on the internet, and it isn't controlled by a political entity or central bank.
It's easy to see bitcoin and the blockchain as logical extensions of the internet, with the potential to shift power from governments to individuals. It's also not clear how a fully decentralized money and public-ledger system are going to be implemented and brought to bear on everyday life.
Reason's Nick Gillespie sat down with Caitlin Long, one of Inc. magazine's "10 business leaders changing the world through tech," a former managing director at Morgan Stanley, and the current president of Symbiont, which is bringing blockchain technology to Wall Street.
Interview edited by Mark McDaniel. Introduction edited by Jim Epstein. Cameras by Jim Epstein and Sarah Siskind.

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@24vand
@24vand 6 лет назад
I think I'm pretty smart but when I see somebody like this lady it's a big reality check. It's amazing what she knows about economics, banking and technology.
@MacAttack001
@MacAttack001 6 лет назад
Incredible video, I am going to have to watch it another couple of times to fully wrap my head around all of the information in it. Thank you!
@johnrabuse3468
@johnrabuse3468 6 лет назад
I paused and rewinded about 60 times... Im good with technology and i fully understand the block chain, but not so much how it will correlate with financial institutions in the future. This was such a great outlook onto how block chains will set a new means for financial systems globally... allowing transparency and almost instantaneous transactions.. Gorgeous interview...
@plasticrock
@plasticrock 6 лет назад
You should watch it at 1.5x. She is so well-informed!
@tusenpapi
@tusenpapi 6 лет назад
Ahem what she said was Blockchain = MOON!
@jimmmyz169
@jimmmyz169 6 лет назад
She is incredible! I wish her and Andreas Antonoupolis sat down with all of these skeptics, including governments and news outlets to really set the record straight and open so many eyes, she is aw inspiring!
@chris15325
@chris15325 6 лет назад
J M what a fantastic idea!
@ronpaulrevered
@ronpaulrevered 6 лет назад
This chick is wicked smaht.
@__-iv6kc
@__-iv6kc 6 лет назад
RonPaul Revered 😂😂😂
@quintessenceSL
@quintessenceSL 6 лет назад
Ya, good to see she isn't simply adding Bitcoin to the buzzword de jour, but clearly lays out the implications of the blockchain to the securities market, and how sketchy the current system is. Certainly will be looking for more by her.
@walperstyle
@walperstyle 6 лет назад
You like apples? I got a number. How bout dem apples.
@StephenDix
@StephenDix 6 лет назад
Why can't people like this be president?
@walperstyle
@walperstyle 6 лет назад
To be president material, you need to be a bitch to the debt controllers.
@js7un165
@js7un165 6 лет назад
I've got to give Reason TV a compliment for doing this interview.
@napusoul
@napusoul 6 лет назад
He cut her off multiple times before she was done explaining specific things. Rude interviewer. A little amateurish.
@patricethomas7703
@patricethomas7703 6 лет назад
David Cabrera that's true. I thought so myself
@khaoticwarchild
@khaoticwarchild 6 лет назад
stfu white knight
@slutmonke
@slutmonke 5 лет назад
Nick is usually an excellent interviewer, but he wasn't cracking jokes here the way he usually does. I think their social dynamic was just strained for some reason. Perhaps because Nick, despite being very well read himself on economics, may have been a bit out of his depth on the finance jargon side of things.
@Tackleqb
@Tackleqb 6 лет назад
Beauty and brains. Love this woman.
@2Phast4Rocket
@2Phast4Rocket 6 лет назад
Many of the commentors totally cannot distinguish the block-chain technology and bitcoin. While bitcoin transactions are performed on the block-chain, she is talking about the security market should be managed using block-chain technology just like bitcoin so you know exactly how owns the security when it is bought and sold instead of the too many shenanigans being played on Wall Street where the bad actor can siphon off the top due to the archaic accounting system
@royhemple9990
@royhemple9990 6 лет назад
2Phast4Rocket 4 fuck sake! Learn how to smell or get yourself a spoil chucker
@ricky9826
@ricky9826 6 лет назад
Roy Hemple spoil chucker... lmao
@lowfatportland
@lowfatportland 6 лет назад
Yo Nick. Can you let her finish speaking before you interrupt?!?
@BackToConstitution
@BackToConstitution 6 лет назад
Every time she's saying something that I really want to hear, he interrupts her! So frustrating! Why doesn't he use a pencil and make notes, so he can ask his question, AFTER SHE FINISHES HER SENTENCE?
@himbri4n
@himbri4n 6 лет назад
me too!
@carmela121
@carmela121 6 лет назад
he is so annoying!
@ensignsigma2245
@ensignsigma2245 6 лет назад
Because journalists are controlled opposition. They are the first to crush any attempt to break the chains. They hate freedom!
@davidfarinholt9445
@davidfarinholt9445 6 лет назад
Somebody didn’t do his homework. Very poor interview with a highly interesting lady!
@str8wstcst1
@str8wstcst1 6 лет назад
Completely agree. He's just intimidated how intelligent/positive energy she is and her money is long like train smoke. Caked and breaded up this sister is. Her last name is "Long". :-)
@DRINOMAN
@DRINOMAN 6 лет назад
Caitlyn, your genius is shared amongst the people in Blockchain tech! You’ve got a grip on how things really work and the way you articulate your thoughts is insane. #runForPresident
@chris15325
@chris15325 6 лет назад
Newcomers....You can buy fractions of a bitcoin
@patricethomas7703
@patricethomas7703 6 лет назад
dyjruuu yes tell them!!
@tracyk3567
@tracyk3567 6 лет назад
Brilliant. Thank you for inviting this person to talk with us. I appreciate her time. Well done.
@marrs487
@marrs487 6 лет назад
Caitlin Long for Fed chair!
@soapbxprod
@soapbxprod 5 лет назад
So that she can ABOLISH it
@daveb5041
@daveb5041 6 лет назад
The fraud on wall street is not people stealing money out of your bank account but rather the banks ability to backup their risky securities with the money in your bank account. So the bank keeps and and all profit but on your end you only get the risk and no say if you want your money to be used this way. Thats like a friend borrowing money to go to the casino without you knowing, keeping any money they make but if they loose its your money that pays out.
@marcreagan940
@marcreagan940 6 лет назад
amazing content, subbed. So glad to see a more technical analysis of the space
@patataki_
@patataki_ 6 лет назад
We need to hear more from seasoned, well spoken, credible professionals like Caitlin Long in the space! Thank you for this interview!
@TimothyBates
@TimothyBates 6 лет назад
Possibly your best interview ever! From von Mises to the SEC to the future of money, privacy, trust, institutions, algorithms... She's great, and so honest as well as well read, and, independently thoughtful. Well done!
@zcxvasdfqwer1234
@zcxvasdfqwer1234 6 лет назад
Ok except the fact that the blockchain is taking long and longer to confirm transactions and the exchanges and their websites are not equipped to handle the increasing demand.
@ManlyBeachRunningClub
@ManlyBeachRunningClub 6 лет назад
One of the best interviews on this topic I've ever seen. Caitlin Long explains the status quo and the benefits of Blockchain tech expertly
@dannyjiujitsu
@dannyjiujitsu 5 лет назад
This lady is so likable. Some ppl just have the natural charm. Combined with intellect. Love the knowledge. Thank you.
@succeedinfinance9344
@succeedinfinance9344 4 года назад
Caitlin Long is great. She is writing a history in the future financial system. What they have achieved in Wyoming is a Big breakthrough.
@raceprophet369
@raceprophet369 6 лет назад
so after 16 yrs of being in the "financial business" she figured out that the FED was at the center of things?......what a f'n genius this lady is ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@DanJohnsonAffordableAviation
@DanJohnsonAffordableAviation 2 года назад
Another great Nick Gillespie interview. Great choice of subject; Kaitlyn presents wonderfully well and steadily flashes her lovely smile. It was both educational and pleasant. Keep up all the great work at Reason.
@JasonParthum
@JasonParthum 6 лет назад
Jeffery Tucker did a pretty good job refuting accusations that bitcoin violates the Regression Theorem, but (with all due respect; I'm a big fan of his) there is a more thorough -- and certainly simpler -- refutation: The 'bits' comprising bitcoin are the commodity with prior use value. It's really that simple. I think the reason most people don't immediately recognize this is because there is little to no mention of 'coins' in the Regression Theorem. Hence, people generally conflate 'gold' (in its raw form, a commodity) with 'gold coins' (minted currency). I don't know why Mises would have omitted this step, but minting is an absolutely critical characteristic in the adoption of any currency. Gold (or silver, copper, etc.) has *never* been widely used as a currency without first being minted (authenticated and accounted for). Contrasting bit _coins_ with gold in its _raw form_ creates a false dichotomy resulting in the Regression Theorem *not* being applied because we *stop* regressing at the 'coin' stage of bitcoin. In the proper context, the same argument could be made that gold _coins_ violate the Regression Theorem.
@carsonwentz8301
@carsonwentz8301 6 лет назад
Everything fails the "regression theorem". Because "intrinsic value" does not exist. How much was oil worth before engines/fire?
@JasonParthum
@JasonParthum 6 лет назад
The Regression Theorem doesn't cite Intrinsic Value, it simply illustrates that _some_ prior commodity (direct use) value exists before any item becomes adopted as a medium of exchange (currency). Mises has repeatedly debunked the Theory of Intrinsic Value (which also happens to be the premise of Karl Marx's Labor Theory of Value).
@LibertarianRF
@LibertarianRF 6 лет назад
Jason Parthum Well isn't the minting part just inferred within the logic structure of using gold as money in modern times?
@JasonParthum
@JasonParthum 6 лет назад
That's my best guess as to why Mises didn't elaborate on minting at the time. But he did devote a great deal of writing to much simpler and less significant aspects gold's adoption as currency, so I'm really not sure. Maybe he was trying to keep the scope very specific to Menger's work (which would then raise the question; Why didn't Menger address minting)? But in (more) modern times, the importance of minting seems to have been all but forgotten. The overwhelming majority of pundits on the subject conflate gold coinage (currency) with raw gold (commodity) as though the two are indistinguishable. In the same breath they'll cite gold's historic industrial uses (often deemed 'intrinsic value") and gold's history of being currency (which is obviously due primarily to the act of coining, not the material that was coined) as though minting is irrelevant. I think those who don't perceive this additional step in the regression automatically assume that a regression only requires one step. IE: With gold they see; "currency
@JasonParthum
@JasonParthum 6 лет назад
...to Mises' credit though, he did address it in other writings: “To a naive observer, money made out of precious metal was 'sound money' because the piece of precious metal was an 'intrinsically' valuable object, while paper money was 'bad money' because its value was only 'artificial'. But even the layman who holds this opinion accepts the money in the course of business transactions, not for the sake of its industrial use-value, but for the sake of its objective exchange-value, which depends largely upon its monetary employment. He values a gold coin not merely for the sake of its industrial use-value, say because of the possibility of using it as jewellery (sic), but chiefly on account of its monetary utility. But, of course, to do something, and to render an account to oneself of what one does and why one does it, are quite different things.” - Ludwig von Mises, The Theory of Money and Credit
@BobbyGiggz
@BobbyGiggz 6 лет назад
Interesting. @34.00 you mention that there's no need for intermediaries to run the payment thru their balance sheets and take a cut. But you accept that intermediaries can add value. If they don't take a cut, then what's the incentive to offer the intermediary service? As I understand it, blockchain tech will drastically reduce intermediary fees, but there will STILL be fees to pay, albeit a very small one.
@PeterSosinski
@PeterSosinski 6 лет назад
Wow! Well spoken and articulated.
@gustercc
@gustercc 6 лет назад
She's dressed nicely, has good hair, and uses lots of words I don't understand. Have a "thumbs up"!
@MoneyStrategiesSOULutions
@MoneyStrategiesSOULutions 6 лет назад
richard martinez Haha ;)
@banzobeans
@banzobeans 6 лет назад
Watch it again! and again!
@sos3565
@sos3565 6 лет назад
That is how people fall in love. You dont understand what she say but still listen ^^
@petermeissnitzer662
@petermeissnitzer662 6 лет назад
FIAT currency is in massive deflation mode just a piece of paper that is worth less and less daily , BITCOIN on the other hand has REAL value , to make just 1 BITCOIN it costs over 1000 US dollars to make .
@matts3729
@matts3729 6 лет назад
Deflation makes a currency more valuable relative to the goods it is used to buy.
@Wodepaya
@Wodepaya 6 лет назад
Very focus interview ,
@noname-mq2lu
@noname-mq2lu 6 лет назад
Thank YOU
@WiriHeremaia
@WiriHeremaia 6 лет назад
Very intelligent conversation Caitlin is on to it
@taylorlparrish
@taylorlparrish 6 лет назад
Can anyone tell me what she said at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="129">2:09</a>, "something" daily mail?
@nickrussia
@nickrussia 6 лет назад
taylorlparrish wondering the same 😎
@AmrishKelkar
@AmrishKelkar 5 лет назад
She said "Mises daily mail". Generally referring to the mises website , i take it --> mises.org/library/mises-daily-articles
@chancenicely2417
@chancenicely2417 6 лет назад
oh wow this is SOOOOOO GREAT! Says eveything so clearly and so easy to understand. Definitely something to share with the family
@fredjohnson6513
@fredjohnson6513 6 лет назад
My Aha moment! Thanks for the in-depth explanation as I too believed the security and bond market was not sufficiently monitored and controlled and was 'distorting' the true value of these instruments thus adding to the risk factor as well as being a fraud !
@jester5922
@jester5922 6 лет назад
excellent interview!
@Automat1kkk
@Automat1kkk 6 лет назад
Thank you ✌🏼
@myagood3942
@myagood3942 6 лет назад
If I pay my Discover bill today... It will get paid today... come one bitcoin. PUSH THROUGH BABY
@jmvmike
@jmvmike 6 лет назад
I really appreciate the great information y’all.
@soapbxprod
@soapbxprod 5 лет назад
Human Action. Asset allocation. Malinvestment. Joe Salerno. Tom Woods. Robert Murphy. Anarchocapitalism. END THE FED.
@BTCeProtocol
@BTCeProtocol 6 лет назад
Wow. This person needs to be heard!!!!!!!!!!
@danswim11
@danswim11 6 лет назад
brilliant
@rwess
@rwess 6 лет назад
Brilliant Lady! Great knowledge, insight, and integrity.
@eddiesanders2719
@eddiesanders2719 6 лет назад
Brilliant lady, on the right path. Thank you for this presentation!
@Hitngan
@Hitngan 6 лет назад
Most excellent
@wonburgandy2443
@wonburgandy2443 6 лет назад
She is great.
@flash5230
@flash5230 6 лет назад
She understands finance, accounting systems, and the blockchain, very well. She Rocks!
@origirox
@origirox 6 лет назад
Well done Ms. Long!!
@gordiasgordian925
@gordiasgordian925 6 лет назад
I wasn't familiar with the Dole Food case...
@Shalashaska315
@Shalashaska315 6 лет назад
Hearing "Austrian School" on Reason. I'm suprised. I'm glad, just suprised. Austrian economics should be embraced by the more mainstream libertarians and the LP.
@christianlibertarian5488
@christianlibertarian5488 6 лет назад
I agree. For some reason, Libertarians are obsessing on gold, rather that the Austrian economics that would make a gold standard seem reasonable. Personally, a well run fiat currency like the US dollar, or the Swiss franc, are just fine with me.
@petermeissnitzer662
@petermeissnitzer662 6 лет назад
All this shows is that Bitcoin actually has real value , it costs over 1000 US dollars to produce 1 Bitcoin unlike Fiat currency which is just a piece of paper , so the real BUBBLE is fiat currency, Bitcoin is the future , mark my words .
@incognitotorpedo42
@incognitotorpedo42 6 лет назад
Bitcoin is just bits on computers. It doesn't matter that people spent money on electricity and mining hardware. That money is gone. It's not like bitcoin is "backed" by it. Bitcoin is volatile AF. You want your currency bouncing around like crazy? That's nuts.
@cybler
@cybler 6 лет назад
Caitlin should run for president!
@martinbenz8275
@martinbenz8275 6 лет назад
THIS IS SO HELPFUL
@Gorflaxsack
@Gorflaxsack 6 лет назад
Fantastic video.
@joshuabrown7815
@joshuabrown7815 6 лет назад
im confuzzled
@tbay1959
@tbay1959 6 лет назад
The one thing she is wrong about is that raising the interest rates will create more money which is more debt and devalues all existing currency which causes inflation. The Fed needs to be eliminated. End of story.
@leo959
@leo959 6 лет назад
As long as currency exists there will always be evil, but bitcoin is by a long leap forward to avoiding evil corporations and their proxy wars.
@dbiswas
@dbiswas 6 лет назад
She is not only beautiful but very smart too. Loved her explanation.
@_example
@_example 6 лет назад
Cameras are way too close to their faces for this interview. Side note, what an incredible woman.
@frankinfantino9490
@frankinfantino9490 6 лет назад
Both smart and beautiful... the perfect woman
@petermeissnitzer662
@petermeissnitzer662 6 лет назад
Fiat currency is in a BUBBLE NOT CRYPTOCURRENCY .
@MrTacons
@MrTacons 6 лет назад
Ms. Long mentions something called something like Meeche's Daily Mail, does anyone know what she is referring to?
@williammckeever1284
@williammckeever1284 6 лет назад
banks make more money off of debtors than savers. period! also the overly indebted pay fees and savers pay servicing fees...
@shadfurman
@shadfurman 6 лет назад
Why would any libertarian or Austrian economist argue against competition in money? Gold isn't valuable because its physical, its valuable because the demand outpaces the supply and costs of production. Gold as a physical asset makes global exchanges difficult, requiring digitization before it can be used as currency competitively en mass. Cryptocurrecies are valuable because/when the demand outpaces the supply and the costs of production. Bitcoin is already digitized, but also lacks the potential disaster security of a physical asset. Neither currency is fully competitive with the other, in a free market, having both, as well as other currencies, is ideal. Blockchain, more than just cryptocurrencies, is an incredibly exciting technology. It has the power to topple government corruption. I believe it will be the core technology of the internet in a decade.
@WanderingNC
@WanderingNC 6 лет назад
She is definitely sharp as a tack and on her game. Very informative!
@SouthParkJeff
@SouthParkJeff 6 лет назад
Great Job nick an interview i actually learned something from.
@dennislitson8651
@dennislitson8651 6 лет назад
Very smart women and well spoken. Just couldn't stand the interviewers interruptions!
@boulevarda.aladetoyinbo4773
@boulevarda.aladetoyinbo4773 5 лет назад
If people don't know who owns what regarding the stocks and bonds business, how'd we allocate these resources then?
@rogermarnoch767
@rogermarnoch767 6 лет назад
Great video
@silverstake88
@silverstake88 6 лет назад
Fabulous interview!
@slutmonke
@slutmonke 5 лет назад
Good god she is ridiculously well read/spoken. I wish I were the sort of person who puts in the effort to reach her level. Being smart only gets you so high without insane amounts of hard work that she's clearly put into learning.
@donaldharvey763
@donaldharvey763 6 лет назад
Savers should be properly compensated for the risk or more fairly but 4 present verses 39 and 90 present in treat rates are out by a fair old whack
@fredjohnson6513
@fredjohnson6513 6 лет назад
What is your take on derivatives having a tendency to push new markets (Ie, Bitcoin) to a boom then bust cycle in 3 -5 years?
@rwess
@rwess 6 лет назад
Watched it a second time: shocking! (the Dole story, the DTCC, Cede, rehypothecation, naked shorts, etc.) Given the current Bitcoin price I'm sure, and glad, that she has left her former contemporaries at Morgan in the dust. - High time for fundamental change in the financial system!
@dadroxxrp5944
@dadroxxrp5944 6 лет назад
Terrific interview and analysis - hope we can create an honest system for all.
@sunshine_burn7208
@sunshine_burn7208 6 лет назад
Great interviewee. Brilliant.
@galvestonkayakoutfitters4446
@galvestonkayakoutfitters4446 6 лет назад
Awesome information! Thank you for such a informative and cerebral representation of the advantages of blockchain tech.
@buddythelittletinyrescuedo5114
She's smart and GORGEOUS. I can tell she has a warm heart and honest. I am in LOVE!
@alexbk44
@alexbk44 6 лет назад
Female version of Andreas Antenopolous. Great vid!
@coaster001
@coaster001 6 лет назад
CMKM Diamonds is a good example of Naked Short Selling at it's worst.
@dereks66
@dereks66 6 лет назад
Great interview!
@Thomasfboyle
@Thomasfboyle 6 лет назад
I'm with her^
@darev6780
@darev6780 6 лет назад
how does one actually buy bitcoin ?
@williambranch9413
@williambranch9413 5 лет назад
The question that should have been asked is if the chain would be able to handle the volume of information at the speed required if implemented
@frogger2513
@frogger2513 5 лет назад
William Branch yup. Its called lightning and mass adoption is coming. Or increased block sizes ie segwit
@caitlinlong4081
@caitlinlong4081 3 года назад
Where are you from????
@SlamminGraham
@SlamminGraham 6 лет назад
Her description of our present, canonical marketplace is unbelievably scary.
@frostian
@frostian 6 лет назад
Very interesting. This woman knows what she's talking about.
@hagbard72
@hagbard72 6 лет назад
Audio is weird.
@johnbarrett5229
@johnbarrett5229 6 лет назад
Trust me on this one man, when you interrupt your guest, as you did many times, it only serves to make you look rude and unprofessional. Great guest by the way!! Brilliant, well principled woman!
@zmk666666
@zmk666666 6 лет назад
Very intelligent lady!
@roymaitland
@roymaitland 6 лет назад
How many people will go to jail if they are saying to sell while they are buying!
@donaldharvey763
@donaldharvey763 6 лет назад
And what happens when someone can't pay one ove the less important bill to them who will be paid first
@anonymouscoward9643
@anonymouscoward9643 6 лет назад
@<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="168">2:48</a> she's wrong - the price of borrowing money is not the issue. the issue is: an outside party manipulating the value of the currency (the debt based "federal" reserve notes are not money because they fail the "limited in supply" part of the definition), facilitating the need to borrow currency when the effects of counterfeiting and plunder come home to roost - aka the boom-bust cycle. with sound money, the supply is limited (like bitcoin) so you have a reliable footing on which to build an economy - we have never had that in world history, just close approximations. paper and computer ledgers are not immutable, precious metals are commodities, coins and jewelry can wear out and lose value - the only immutable symbol of energy is crypto-based blockchain technology.
@soapbxprod
@soapbxprod 5 лет назад
VIVA CAITLIN and MISES and ROTHBARD and HAYEK! Triangles forever...
@andriyroma8769
@andriyroma8769 6 лет назад
Smart woman. She clearly has a lot of knowledge
@Devlbaby
@Devlbaby 6 лет назад
In a nutshell the Block-chain provides transparency and accountability through transactional traceability of both goods and services from end to end.
@carlosfortes11
@carlosfortes11 6 лет назад
Great Grand
@cafeta
@cafeta 6 лет назад
Gold > bubbles made out of soap > bitcoins, lol
@criptoportugal
@criptoportugal 6 лет назад
Nice interview ☺️☀️☀️☀️
@mr.melone520
@mr.melone520 6 лет назад
Why does she look soo happy? her eyes are full of joy
@DennisRay99
@DennisRay99 6 лет назад
Saimir. Because she's rich!
@cascade7606
@cascade7606 6 лет назад
She loves what she does
@incognitotorpedo42
@incognitotorpedo42 6 лет назад
Maybe she's nervous. Toward the end of the interview she starts relaxing and the perma-smile fades occasionally.
@warrenluke627
@warrenluke627 4 года назад
The problem with listening to what she has to say is nothing will be don to jail all the people who knowingly on sold stocks and shares, bonds, gold that they did not have, the system is so flawed and corrupt. It sickens me that politicians knowing that this is happening do nothing and that is why the world is so bankrupt today 11/4/2020
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