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Bittern, Very Fast Steam Loco - 91.5 MPH. 

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LNER A4 Class 4464 (60019) "Bittern" has been given dispensation to run at 90MPH on the East Coast Main Line on June 29th 2013, in exactly 1 month, to celebrate the 75th Anniversary of Mallard's world speed record, subject to a satisfactory high speed test. This is that test. The weather was perfect - damp, cool, no wind. Bittern left Didcot at 05:23 am and flew through Slough 05:58 at full pelt for an average of 60mph over the 35 miles. The 6.2 mile section between Maidenhead and Slough was completed in 4 minutes, an average of 93MPH. Using film time markers I timed the whole train at 90mph through Taplow where this film was shot.
Edit 15th Jan 2014: I have just found out that official on-board timing had this train clocked at 91.5mph through Taplow. A DVD of the the story of Bitterns modern high speed passenger run can be purchased at www.ovpsteam.co...

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Комментарии : 209   
@loubyloustar
@loubyloustar 2 года назад
This is Gresley A4s at their best. They are easily any railway enthusiasts favorites.
@arthurwellesley1815
@arthurwellesley1815 2 года назад
The A4 locomotives are just magical like this one it looked like bittern just came out of nowhere
@CRUSADER1189
@CRUSADER1189 11 лет назад
Great video, catching the HST coming in the other direction as well. The vintage age and the modern age all rolled into one. The magic of the railways !!
@InterCityExpress125
@InterCityExpress125 11 лет назад
Absolutely fantastic, Bittern doing what she was meant to do, speeding along. Cheers, Andy
@SteamingAroundTheMidlands
@SteamingAroundTheMidlands 11 лет назад
Simply magnificent Jeff. The is nothing quite like seeing steam at speed. Hope everything goes well and there will be even more loco's hitting the 90mph mark. After your footage I am really looking forward to the tours in July up the ECML!! Thanks for sharing. Regards, Sam
@benlaskowski357
@benlaskowski357 3 года назад
I'm American. You're looking at my favorite steam locomotive. First read about it when I was five. I still have the book 36 years later.
@myriaddsystems
@myriaddsystems 4 года назад
Living, breathing elemental. She gets in your blood. Nothing compares....
@pepperthekobold
@pepperthekobold 11 лет назад
Nice bit of footage. Well done to you for getting up early in the morning to catch it for the rest of us!
@MrKnowwun
@MrKnowwun 11 лет назад
Thanks, I bought a camera with an external mic socket to improve the sound choices. Now with a furry wind sock I think I have got the sound about right. Welcome to the channel. Cant always guarantee they will be this good. Its a hit and miss sport!
@barrylewis21
@barrylewis21 10 лет назад
At last. A British express steam engine being allowed to do what it was designed to do, and wasn't she loving it? Nice to see the smoke effects from a fireman having to bend his back for a change, up till now these preservationalists didn't have a clue as to what real express train working was all about in the glorious days of steam. More please and plenty of it.
@gerrard1144
@gerrard1144 4 года назад
Yeah, steam locos at my country are only allowed to go at 40 km/hr. Some even doing 10
@ZeldaTheSwordsman
@ZeldaTheSwordsman 3 года назад
They have a clue, but they rarely get the permission
@mrgrumpyuka
@mrgrumpyuka 11 лет назад
a beautiful sight! , when I saw Bittern in an unrestored state as a kid in the 80's I never thought it would run like that again.
@jamminjim247
@jamminjim247 11 лет назад
What an awesome piece of video, from the crows to the sounds of the locomotive passing and the metallic coach wheel sounds. Also, great timing for the passing train through the steam and haze. Really cool. I'm from the US and we don't get to see this stuff. Its like being able to grab some tech and step back in time. A really nice 2.5 minute interlude in all of our weird chaos. Thank You! Jim.
@richardjoganah1871
@richardjoganah1871 6 лет назад
lovely video of lovely bittern steam train 😊😊😊
@MrKnowwun
@MrKnowwun 11 лет назад
Indeed, it was on the UP (to London) MAIN (fast) line. Which can be a problem for photographers these days, many intermediate stations on the GWR have access to the fast lines restricted, there is no access to the down fast at that station for example.
@nicholascrosby6300
@nicholascrosby6300 10 лет назад
The irony of the HST waltzing past in the opposite direction at sublime 125 mph at the end of the clip can't be ignored. . .
@jeremycoombes2594
@jeremycoombes2594 4 года назад
Nicholas Crosby yeah, and you could have said a £50k Cessna flew over them both doing 175mph. What’s your point??? the HST is a boring piece of modern shite.
@nicholascrosby6300
@nicholascrosby6300 4 года назад
Jeremy Coombes HST is hardly modern. The point is that in the 40 years that separate an A4 and a HST we’ve gone from 2 blokes flogging their guts out to get to 126mph once complete with knackered bearings to one bloke sitting in comfort doing 125mph as a regular thing. It’s called progress..
@mitchellhogg4627
@mitchellhogg4627 4 года назад
@@jeremycoombes2594 those are fighting words right there
@redtape241
@redtape241 4 года назад
Meanwhile Jeremy Coombes is being pushed around on an old commode peeing and shitting himself with a comment like that.
@ajf3202
@ajf3202 3 года назад
@@jeremycoombes2594 HSTs saved our railways mate. Have some respect.
@MrKnowwun
@MrKnowwun 11 лет назад
Thats the running gauge - Width of the rails. The loading gauge is the max height and width of the locos and rolling stock, and the UK one is considerably smaller than nearly anywhere else.
@derisleybrittain
@derisleybrittain 3 года назад
Excellent footage ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@giuseppegulino
@giuseppegulino 6 лет назад
bellissimo video complimenti per questo stupendo convoglio con una locomotiva favolosa grazie di cuore un mio caro saluto dalla sicilia giuseppe
@amelierenoncule
@amelierenoncule 4 года назад
Grande ! As youngsters in Ireland, mon ami, we always loved it when the trains passed by at a leisurely rate, as it provided us a great chance to bounce a few ripe tomatoes off some of the pork-pie-faced blokes who stuck their mugs out the window/door openings. Mon Dieu, what fun. ESPECIALLY if they were holding a pint a' bitters that they then dropped! Ho-Ho-Ho!...as Monsieur Santa would say.
@PeakeyFortySix
@PeakeyFortySix 10 лет назад
Another great shot of a rare occasion mate! Very good, cheers Jack
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS
@SMILEVIDEOTRAINS 10 лет назад
A brilliant piece of video. much enjoyed . thanks
@JoshNunnyt
@JoshNunnyt 3 года назад
Very smooth zoom!
@MrKnowwun
@MrKnowwun 3 года назад
Thanks!
@beowulf3075
@beowulf3075 11 лет назад
That's the beauty of the railway, unlike highways where the noise is incessant. I watch SkipW videos on here, mostly filmed in Wyoming, fascinating stuff, but my first love is, what I still call, BR.
@noelist
@noelist 11 лет назад
we are enjoying them along with the other four A4s celebrating 75 years since Mallard became the fastest steam loco in the world (officially), but first we had to clean and repaint them to match our collections condition, of which three are steamable, so rest assured, you will get them back in better condition than they arrived here........
@EssexLocomotiveEnthusiast
@EssexLocomotiveEnthusiast 10 лет назад
excellent shot and great to see that your shot was used on bittern the need for speed.
@kebl0597
@kebl0597 11 лет назад
Brilliant shot there Jeff! That's what an A4 should look like. Saw her steaming gently at Southall on my way into work this morning, so good to see her at full speed from a few hours earlier. Looking forward to the summer now, bet the viewing spots will be a bit busier than you had this morning! Tim
@animaltvi9515
@animaltvi9515 5 лет назад
I was looking at the state of the track in the approach track. No wonder our railways are so slow. Great video tho. Long live steam.
@maxm2317
@maxm2317 7 лет назад
AWESOME! However, I've seen Ross Rowland hit 90 MPH with Chesapeake & Ohio 614 on New Jersey Transit back in the late '90s. Of course, my dad and I rode these trips.
@philforder7958
@philforder7958 5 лет назад
Your timing was perfect... Cheers.
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 11 лет назад
Well, your dedication was well rewarded. Quite superb shot.
@MarshSteamVideosTM
@MarshSteamVideosTM 11 лет назад
Jeff great catch and well done on getting up at such a ungodly hour, but you were rewarded well !! And what a sight. Regards Liam
@SpeedToTheWest
@SpeedToTheWest 11 лет назад
You're a very lucky man Jeff, brilliant shot! If only there was an early enough train from Swindon, I would have been out for it too, either that or pull an all nighter. I'll have to try and get out for one of the runs on the ECML!
@HughFromAlice
@HughFromAlice 11 лет назад
Great capture there Jeff! I think that a lot of people who love steam engines will watch this vid,. ...And you gotta give to those magnificent A4s... she was just cruising.…FAVED☁☁☁☁☁⁘⁙⁙……Hᴜɢʜ….TU…..ツ
@MrKnowwun
@MrKnowwun 11 лет назад
I am a tired man! I was really surprised I was the only one there. It was known that would be the fast spot and it gives great views down the line, and the rising sun was in the right direction. There was one early morning commuter on the slow up platform and he didn't even look up from his paper!
@althejazz
@althejazz 11 лет назад
Wonderful, and on the down relief too.
@nablicman
@nablicman 10 лет назад
Verry impressive indeed (for a Deltic predecessor) but I have to say Mr kineticdeath you obviously havent seen a deltic at full chat at over 100 mph there's nothing like it.90mph is good but will we ever see a A4 at its proper speed of100mph on the main line that would be a sight to behold. Enyway nice vid there mate.
@bluemomo65
@bluemomo65 5 лет назад
Very nice! I pushed like 👍👍👍 Greetings from Tokyo Japan :-)
@Colin21454
@Colin21454 7 лет назад
Great piece of capturing, well done mate
@greateastern6870
@greateastern6870 9 лет назад
It would be great to see something like this again.
@Thej611
@Thej611 9 лет назад
Holy crap!!! I didn't know they still allowed steamers to go that fast. And it's hard to believe she's 76 years old!
@MrKnowwun
@MrKnowwun 9 лет назад
Justin Newhall Not normally allowed to go that fast - normally limited to 75 mph, but hey It was a for a special reason I know I wont be around to film it do it again in 25 years time!
@falcons1988
@falcons1988 9 лет назад
MrKnowwun you never know.... you might be around... :s
@allan5919
@allan5919 11 лет назад
Excellent video and well done on getting out so early to capture it.
@Fowler7F
@Fowler7F 11 лет назад
Loved the hst coming out the smoke at the end.
@oldigger7060
@oldigger7060 10 лет назад
Great video. Thanks for sharing your experience with us. However, I believe that the Bittern was of the same class of steam locomotive as the Mallard, which set an all time speed record of 125 mph in 1938. If so, then the Bittern wasn't going flat out!
@Rosie6857
@Rosie6857 9 лет назад
oldigger Mallard was going downhill (1 in 200) and with a lighter train (240 tons). Also, it was being absolutely slaughtered and had to come off the train at Peterborough with a knackered inside big-end. Probably a knackered fireman too.
@oldigger7060
@oldigger7060 9 лет назад
Rosie6857 Heh heh, I agree with your comment re. the fireman! Poor bugger would have slaughtered the first pint!
@gemmalouisa1
@gemmalouisa1 9 лет назад
Rosie6857 the damage was worse than just the big end . the middle cylinder casting was knocked out of true . it was never repaired properly ,as it would have involved fitting a completely new front end and chopping the frames and welding a new section . silver fox, flying fox and mallard were the locos used on the high speed runs . all suffered middle cylinder damage and none of them were locos of choice for the best services subsequently.Doncaster were not happy about mallard being the choice for preservation ,as she was reckoned a poor example .golden fleece or lord Farringdon would have been preferable
@DeCasoU1
@DeCasoU1 8 лет назад
+David Blethyn Which is why Mallard produced 2450edbhp @ 80mph whilst climbing Stoke hauling 415 tons on the 2:00pm down from Kings Cross some 25 years after setting the speed record. More recently while being operated by the National Railway Museum the locomotive was judged by those working on it as being capable of anything asked of it. No. 14 was always a magnificent performer particularly when in the hands of Ted Hailstone. Prior to December 1947 only one incidence of welding repairs on A4s was found to be necessary. Overheating of middle big ends on three cylinder locomotives occurred when cushioning steam was insufficient. Usually caused by the regulator being closed when running at high speed
@gemmalouisa1
@gemmalouisa1 8 лет назад
+DeCasoU1 I cant comment on the run you quote , simply because I don't know of it .but hailstone was an engineman extraordinaire. your comment regarding overheating of the middle big end is not correct . expansion of the conjugated valve gear resulted in the MBE doing too large a proportion of the work. regulators were not closed running at high speed as that would cut off the oil supply to the cyls. the regulator was always left cracked slightly open . 14 was an indifferent engine with few runs of real worth to its credit . the NRM would always rather use a duchess (6229) in preference to any other engine . in daily use the Royal Scots put more TE on the rail than anything out of Doncaster(but they were not as quick) one duchess is worth two A4s anyday
@AceEngineeringWorks
@AceEngineeringWorks 10 лет назад
Amazing visual feast, nice to see the fireman working too. ;-) I was talking to the young fireman on Bittern at the NRM for Mallard 75, apparently she still has dispensation for another 90 mph run. I'd like to see that when it comes.
@MarshSteamVideosTM
@MarshSteamVideosTM 10 лет назад
It's a invite only train for V.I.P. And it was kept hush hush. Just been told the trip has actually went ahead on the 7th March a few weeks ago, with Bittern going York to London.
@JPSteamMediaTM
@JPSteamMediaTM 10 лет назад
Hi Jeff, bittern need for speed just came through the door, saw this clip on the DVD, just thought I'd say congrats :) Jack.
@MrKnowwun
@MrKnowwun 10 лет назад
thanks - was used on two commercial cds.
@Karadauk
@Karadauk 10 лет назад
Brings back a few memories but obviously the maintenance is too good. The A4's always used to exhibit the Gresley triple beat in the exhaust.
@MandoMohan
@MandoMohan 10 лет назад
Just beautiful. I love your work.
@michigandon
@michigandon 11 лет назад
Oh, I do hope to...one of these days. 60 MPH is very impressive for a heritage line (tourist line is what us Yanks call them). I know the Illinois Railroad Museum can get up to 50 on their track. I was grateful for the opportunity to view the Ike and the D.O,C, in person, although its been quite a while since I've gotten the chance to see either.
@vernontansleytansley2147
@vernontansleytansley2147 11 лет назад
Kenneth J. Cook became CME of the Eastern Region in 1951 and he fitted the de Glehn type of big end which cured the problem with the inside big- end bearing and he also applied Swindon practice of white metal bearing and lubrication which proved equally successful curing the problem. In an address to the Institute of Mechanical Engineers he showed a pair of marine type bearing brasses that showed no more than 0.004 inch of wear after running 50,000 miles. (THE GRESLEY PACIFICS .(2). O.S. Nock )
@andyedkins1984
@andyedkins1984 11 лет назад
Great piece of footage and thanks for sharing. Regards Andy
@DeCasoU1
@DeCasoU1 11 лет назад
Take a look at any preserved Gresley locomotive. No de Glehn big end in sight. The "marine type bearing brasses" gives the game away. Cook's work was to illustrate the superiority of a modern machined surface c/w a traditional hand scrapped bearing. The detail of the thin white metal bearing layer and associated oil feeder pads was taken from de Glehn practice as used by the GW and tested out in conjunction with optical alignment on the NE. The marine big-end strap had been strengthened pre WW2
@LuigiLuigi8989
@LuigiLuigi8989 10 лет назад
The shock-wave from the pass! WHAM!
@BritishTrainVideos
@BritishTrainVideos 11 лет назад
Super, absolutley superb!
@CBeaumontHIGTFY
@CBeaumontHIGTFY 11 лет назад
Thank you, I clearly had my direction of travel muddled up. Thought the steamer would be going away from London, but I am clearly wrong.
@hurleyfunbags
@hurleyfunbags 11 лет назад
Great shot!
@trainmaniacstudios8216
@trainmaniacstudios8216 8 лет назад
1:57 SONIC BOOM!!!!!!
@TrainsDirectVictoria
@TrainsDirectVictoria 3 года назад
????????????????
@mohammadaslam1010
@mohammadaslam1010 2 года назад
Amazing beating the speed of normal ele tric train
@michigandon
@michigandon 11 лет назад
I'm happy to see them back on their home turf, even if it is for just a brief period.
@MrKnowwun
@MrKnowwun 11 лет назад
yes it is the passing of the front of the loco to the passing of the rear of the last coach.
@henriquebolzan1267
@henriquebolzan1267 3 года назад
literally Spencer in every thomas episode:
@NoName-pi4sb
@NoName-pi4sb 11 лет назад
brilliant and very high speed!
@madaboutsteam70013
@madaboutsteam70013 11 лет назад
I cant wait for the tours now!! Great vid, mk1's at speed sound fantastic!
@MrKnowwun
@MrKnowwun 11 лет назад
BTW if you like the sound aspect, this is possibly the best one I have made in that respect .ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ca7OWEzgtdQ.html
@brandondavis-white3352
@brandondavis-white3352 11 лет назад
Great Vid & Catch.I am going to see her on the 29th of june.
@87pbooth
@87pbooth 11 лет назад
4ft 8 1/2'' was and still is the average width between (then) cart and (now) car wheels, hence that being the gauge of the track so freight could be transferred easily
@brandondavis-white3352
@brandondavis-white3352 11 лет назад
Awesome Catch and footage.I am going to she her on the 27 July at Kings Cross
@MrKnowwun
@MrKnowwun 11 лет назад
To answer fully, lets look at the lines available here. Left to right they are "Down fast" "Up fast" "down relief" and "up relief" Bittern is on the "up fast" None of these lines are classed as "reversible" so are signalled one direction only. You have been mislead by a fundamental difference in UK and US railways lines, in the UK the signals are to THE LEFT of the driver. So the green signal you see on the gantry is for the "Down Relief" line, not the "up fast" that bittern is on.
@viewfromear
@viewfromear 4 года назад
You really see the stoking here - those black puffs ever few seconds. Not usually that visible.
@MrKnowwun
@MrKnowwun 4 года назад
yep you can really tell the fireman is bending his back
@railfanprk
@railfanprk 6 лет назад
amazing zoom boss
@monarchist100
@monarchist100 11 лет назад
We've got a very rich steam scene. Over 120 steam lines in the country. D.O.C. and D.D.E. have been subjected to a first class cosmetic restoration. Also why not visit our railway- The East Lancashire Railway? We always try our best to keep engines running to the best standard possible, and we have permission to test steam at 60mph. Hope you enjoy your visit wherever you go!
@MrKnowwun
@MrKnowwun 11 лет назад
you're right, nothing howls quite like a Mk1 at speed.
@MrKnowwun
@MrKnowwun 11 лет назад
it was so exiting I nearly wee'd myself.
@MrKnowwun
@MrKnowwun 11 лет назад
Ran out of reply space! Note as the train passed and I panned round, the signal at the end of the platform, on our left, is now red. Hope that explains it
@stevedoubleu99B
@stevedoubleu99B 7 лет назад
Bloody hell....I blinked and missed it!!!
@MrKnowwun
@MrKnowwun 11 лет назад
yes, its the 05:36 London Paddington to Cheltenham Spa HST.
@MrKnowwun
@MrKnowwun 11 лет назад
so many great flies probably! And the odd bird.
@streamleazefishhouse
@streamleazefishhouse 9 лет назад
To be fair you wouldn't want to stay at Didcot any longer than that train was there for :P
@bmwnasher
@bmwnasher 9 лет назад
75MPH max allowed usually for this loco, and her boiler certificate run out Jan 2015.
@davidantoniocamposbarros7528
@davidantoniocamposbarros7528 3 года назад
This was an exception,probably Because of the Great Gathering event
@CBeaumontHIGTFY
@CBeaumontHIGTFY 11 лет назад
Was that HST in the other direction in service?? It wasn't the sleeper train, that would have gone through by then. Based on the time, a stock move seems likely, but I wonder. --- Brilliant shot of the steam locomotive. I'm surprised it didn't have more coaches than that, for an empty test.
@colincooke6320
@colincooke6320 2 года назад
Yes, but you did on the telephoto which makes it seem much slower
@KINGANDCASTLE
@KINGANDCASTLE 11 лет назад
Nice one but …. How do we know it's not going at 15 mph, and you have speeded it up using Adobe Premier or similar? I can see from triangulating the sun’s position that it’s actually half past four on Tues 13 Feb 1996. And where is the poor deer?
@KG84C
@KG84C 6 лет назад
Once Bittern, twice shy
@terry141186
@terry141186 5 лет назад
If any of the a4s had a fighting chance of beating or getting close to mallards record it's this one. She's in the best condition but there's no way they'd risk damaging her to prove it. Mallard was knackered after her run pretty sure one of her axles shifted in the frame from the heat.
@DeCasoU1
@DeCasoU1 4 года назад
The engine has been inspected fairly recently and it is in need of some skilled attention. It has been in storage for some time and is not likely to return to action for quite some time. The people who are most experienced when it comes to working on this design are rather occupied at the moment.
@KaushikBala333
@KaushikBala333 4 года назад
That is faaast!!!
@JintySteam1
@JintySteam1 11 лет назад
NO WAY :O haha, I'm just kidding XD great footage, its great to see a A4 a really fast speed :) keep up the good work mate, producing train videos. :)
@michigandon
@michigandon 11 лет назад
Quiet early morning with the birds singing....then all hell breaks loose for just a few minutes and then all is quiet again. Methinks I need to take a trip across the pond, for we're not likely to see high speed steam like that in this country again any time soon, I'm afraid. :( I hope that you blokes are also enjoying (and taking good care of!) the Ike and the D.O.C. Not saying you aren't or anything like that, but...
@MrKnowwun
@MrKnowwun 11 лет назад
be interested if you could get confirmation of where on the run those 90mph+ gps readings were obtained
@stumpytrain
@stumpytrain 11 лет назад
Bittern was running on the Up Main.
@espeescotty
@espeescotty 11 лет назад
Man, can someone stick some GoPro's on that baby!? Those cameras could catch so many great things on an engine like that.
@Chris-jx9iz
@Chris-jx9iz 7 лет назад
Great Vid. I take it you'll be out on the 6th Dec for the Christmas Sussex Belle?
@MrKnowwun
@MrKnowwun 11 лет назад
Two early morning commuters on another platform was all, and one of those didn't even look up from his paper.
@atsf3768
@atsf3768 11 лет назад
UK signaling question. In the U.S., the scene similar to what you would find at 1:45 (and several seconds before or after) would not happen under typical circumstances. The block would be occupied and the signal would be red for approaching trains. How is the signalling in this situation different so that it would permit a green signal to an approaching train?
@Minon157
@Minon157 7 лет назад
The train seems slower because some visual illusion and the limitation of our perception, but it was very fast
@espeescotty
@espeescotty 11 лет назад
Yes, no doubt it would catch those too!
@MrKnowwun
@MrKnowwun 11 лет назад
Ta. lets hope the weather is damp just before the runs
@markcf83
@markcf83 4 года назад
A scene now unrecognisable owing to electrification of the GWR.....
@IanPooleTransportHub
@IanPooleTransportHub 11 лет назад
That's not an A4 Pacific, that's a rocket ship!
@kebl0597
@kebl0597 11 лет назад
That would be traditional after an unusually fast A4 run I suppose, especially if they are trying to mimic Mallard!
@Northerner_Transport_Hub
@Northerner_Transport_Hub Год назад
Shame she's in storage at margate now. Probably screwed unless Domion of Canada returns for a period, they may swap locomotives
@alexanderstephenson7103
@alexanderstephenson7103 11 лет назад
Sadly the 1 thing that would make this video on the scale of epic is the smell of a steamer trolling through man i can remember on a par with fresh coffee & bread 4 smells anyhow lucky man 2 see that with few crowds as usual around kudos
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