The people they hate aren't closed-minded though. They just like freedom of expression and pretty stuff. The woke zombie army are the real closed-minded ones. Time to stop entertaining their BS once and for all
Why do they do this? Because they are insecure about their own looks and they want to use games as a way to change what's "normal" or "standard" for beauty in women. I also wouldn't be surprised if they want to push the idea that women with masculine features are also beautiful on behalf of a certain social group. In other words, they want to condition men to be attracted to women with masculine builds and facial features
It was already exposed that that DEI points are connected to investments from big fish like Blackrock. That’s why these “consultant companies” started to grow like mushrooms after the rain, cause that brings big bucks. Covid hurt gaming industry hard, people bought a lot of video games being locked down. So studios started to hire more people, they needed more money. But it backfired hard, now we see studios closing, thousands of people being fired, millions wasted. That’s why they need this big bucks from investors. Investors want a good DEI score. That’s where those consultants come in. Always follow the money.
It angers me to know that even other black devs in the industry would silence their own so quickly. It makes me wonder if I could ever succeed in the industry if I can’t even trust in the integrity of my own people.
This hits home for me as well. Seeing our own sell one another out for brownie points and a leg up should not be tolorated. Not just for us, but for people of ALL races and creeds.
Because they dont care about anything other them being right. Anything they claim to say about diversity is a lie. They dont give a damn about it. Its their way or no way.
As someone who wanted to go to school to become a video game developer, and as someone who would like his own small studio, this disappoints me. I was already considering not pursuing this career path for other reasons.
@@Xanderxindershin I wanted to become a game dev too, especially one for some of the biggest companies out there. Especially EA, since they were the makers of bangers such as Mirrors Edge, Battlefield, NFS, the Titanfall games, and the Jedi fallen order trilogy of games. But after what we heard from behind the scenes? I went HELL NO.
Atp, we need games to completely go indie. These companies never want to give their customers they want, and expect us to buy their garbage and call us the bad guys if we dont buy their shet.
How you think a developer can afford to go completely indie? And you still going to have variety of characters and stories because not everyone is hive mind and that includes variety of character design
as a black man myself who designs attractive female characters, i realize that all of this talk about diversity in the gaming industry is not genuine at all
of course it not you know how much media Is effect by pointless black person don't get me wrong it just extremely odd when a comic or movie character is white for 15 years then there black some reason which confused me so much I know this old but bat women show that died lol was black and I don't understand y To me company's don't care about you, now and days they trying to aim at a wider opportunity and they don't even care about the actual show and lore and stuff
This is the guy who mocked the silent hill fans and then get mad because his design get rejected probably get what he deserves... still it is sad that good game destroyed because some people inserting politics on a video games rather than makes a good story
Was just about to say, this guy is only upset because it's _his_ designs getting mangled beyond recognition. If it was someone else's, he'd just tell them to shut up and get back in line.
The fact he was outright silenced so blatantly in broad daylight is CRAZY. They validated the entire situation. You're not exaggerating when you say it's cult behavior.
Its kinda scary to even get into the industry right now as the mob can just out right silence you or bully into submission if you are small dev. Gaming crash needs to happen and we need hard reset.
I love how I was a "cringy anti-SJW" for years back between 2013-2022 until this crap hit critical mass and suddenly everything we were saying would happen happened. It's not a hard formulas, when you insert radical individuals into your hobby who TELL YOU they will change your hobby, they will inevitably CHANGE YOUR HOBBY. Movies, books, videogames, anything. The fact that only now, in 2024, people are allowed to DISCUSS this is kinda sad. Would've loved to see this energy back in 2016.
You still are a cringe anti-SJW, considering how on the Critical Drinker After Hours video about Yasuke you claimed that saying he was a retainer (not a Samurai, but a retainer) and that him being under the employ of Nobunaga for 15 months was "obfuscating information" even though it's documented meanwhile your racist projection claiming he was just traded around constantly for his time spent in Japan has no evidence. I guess since Metatron provided evidence for the former and not your desired speculation you probably think he's "gone woke", right?
You still are a cringe anti-SJW, considering how on the Critical Drinker After Hours video about Yasuke you claimed that saying he was a retainer (not a Samurai, but a retainer) and that him being under the employ of Nobunaga for 15 months was "obfuscating information" even though it's documented meanwhile your racist projection claiming he was just traded around constantly for his time spent in Japan has no evidence. I guess since Metatron provided evidence for the former and not your desired speculation you probably think he's "gone w0ke", right?
Kinda smoking out your bum dude. It’s a two way street- you are saying radicals do it and whining about woke but ignoring how right wingers also do that too
he should just release the list of weirdos that were DM ing him with these clear threats hot chicks sell things better, the market has established this for years
@@kingj9664 It's not to downplay Indie. The opposite actually. Most people behind those actually care about the product unlike more mainstream/AAA stuff in general, not just Western. They shouldn't be compared to the crap big companies put out as far as this conversation goes.
Yo I'm ngl but that model that dev suggested really made me think that was a beautiful black cosplayer. I would of never thought it was a character he suggested
These are VIDEO GAMES!!! I don't know why we have to have so much politics regarding the styling of characters. Let us have our gorgeous characters in peace. Damn!
Yup its starting to happem in the anime/manga community as well now, Blackstone bought one of Japans buggest digital manga sellers. They are infecting gaming and manga niche hobbies. Its horrible, the future is looking very bleak. 😔
These people would cry for representation, have a character like sheva alomar, and complain she "too pretty". Like you really are threatened by a fictional character?
Its also possible they realized doing talks on things like "Black Representation in Video Games" doesn't move the discussion forward, increases segregation, and requires an emphasis on race that is counter productive to doing good work.
We gave these people an inch and they're just running miles on us, see what all this inclusion and acting like everyone's opinions matter has done to our games? The need for representation never stops, they will never stop because they're freaking lunatics. Screw representation and make good games.
They're trying to change beauty standards and behaviors. Its super obvious, especially with all the trans nonsense going on, making the female characters look more masculine is supposed to change peoples views on that sort of appearance. Obviously it'll never work because attractive women and characters exist REGARDLESS, plus you can't change what it is people find attractive inherently. Its just the way it is.
They want us to accept trans women appearance as being how a woman should looks like...I don´t care about trans people in real life, really, I just think their choice is beyond stupid, but I don´t care, but I do care that they are destroying all the entertainment industry
Bro had a full sympohony play at the end of the video i thought it had ended and a random muaic video song came on it had me vibing hard af after some (horrifying) facts was just spit 😭 (FYI, the majority of the time im on commentary-esque videos I'm 90% listening to them while the phone is somewhere)
I've only gone on what you've said in the Vid as I don't do Twatter. And I might have missed a Trick ..... but could these Black devs telling him to pipedown be coming fron the same direction you are ..... "Keep ya Head down, get to the top, and THEN make change" ? I'm not black ... but this makes sense to me..... only going on the info you gave me. BTW as a White Tekken player I did find it odd that the only Black Female Character in Tekken 7 was given a Fucking ugly default outfit imo.... she is pretty if you customise her .... but the default is ew imo.
8:37 as the youtuber J THE CONCEPT said, we need to start developing our own games so we won't have to worry about other game directors telling us how we should design our characters
When you champion the death of artistic expression and making something enjoyable for the sake of inclusivity, mock people who vocally don’t like it by labeling them as “gamer gaters”, I don’t feel bad for you when it ends up being your turn. Say whatever you want, I don’t feel bad for him because he wouldn’t feel bad for others in his predicament. He even said “I’m not like those gamergaters, I’m special because “black excellence and beauty”, so he doesn’t get labeled as bad for wanting what most people do as well. He helped make the bed, he can lay his ass off in it. I don’t comment much but damn, the complete hypocrisy and desperation in those tweets are just a bad look. TL’DR Sucks to be him
Me personally I always preferred entertainment of Asian culture. There was clearly nothing special about Western entertainment at all because of stupid and ugly miscellaneous things.
To me idc about gaming politics it’s so fkn annoying everyone complains on both sides but as a black girl myself I’m so tired of them making us look masculine all the time even with apex I love Bangalore she fits that and I have friends and cousins who look like her but example lifeline barely has any outfits that ive seen looking feminine but all her other counterparts who are white or latina have outfits with heels and/or feminine clothing I just want a black girl who’s feminine but can still kick some ass like Harley Quinn or Ada Wong
Wow, it's almost like the thing the guy was rooting for wasn't such a great bunch to be siding with after all. He laid his bed, now he's gotta lie in it with all the shit it came with.
I know character designs change but that’s usually in phases and involves the lead designer and the game director (BOTW Link). Such a dramatic shift from start to finish often includes name (Lara Cruz > Lara Croft). To see this dramatic change without the in-between phase or the lead designer’s input feels a bit weird. Obviously to have multiple occasions where your own job is overwritten by a higher up is frustrating, especially as an artist. In the the information age where risk of extremism from reactionaries is high (d☠️ threats and doxing and bullies, oh my!), it’s might be company policy to not vent frustration on Socials (ESPECIALLY Twitter). What else within the game did he work on? Could maybe the artbook alleviate some of this public concern? Could _he_ have received messages from gamergaters of “validation” and got increasingly uncomfortable with the comment thread, realizing most of the people he disagrees with are treating him as their posterboy/new member? Any way you slice the sandwich, its still pretty rank. Imma recommend waiting for more info before treating this as anything more than a guy feeling undercut in his workplace. _There’s already a lot of that going around the industry…_
I'm sick of people saying "it's just a video game", so ? First of all, the gaming industry has an audience of 3.2 billion gamers throughout the world, I don't know about you but it's what I'd call a fairly popular hobby. I'm certainly passionnate about it AND I'm buying these video games, might as well enjoy the game AND what I'm watching while playing. I didn't know that "it's just a video game" completely invalidates how the majority of gamers feel about the industry right now. I mean, WE ARE the audience ffs (you know, the ones BUYING the games), and all we've got these past few years are insults thrown at us in the most condenscending tone ever. Maybe, just maybe, the audience is somewhat right when everywhere you look you can see similar statements. But no, we're idiots who need to grow up. Well generic SJW (dev, DEI consultancy, CEOs etc), I'm not the one insulting my audience because I disagree with you, you are. So let's see what happens when you'll be cancelled in a not so far fetch future now. I'm looking forward to it.
I play Dead By Daylight, and it has the kind of demographics (large LGBT community, sizable amount of women players) that these devs probably want to encourage. Genuinely don't believe game would be profitable if BHVR pursued uglification. Players male and female alike gravitate towards attractive female survivors with flashy or revealing cosmetics (Sable Ward, Feng Min, Kate Denson). Ada Wong in DBD has her iconic "too sexualized for remake" dress from the OG Resident Evil 4 as a default. Survivors that fit a woke aesthetic like Haddie Kaur or Jane Romero (whom I don't mind TBH) aren't picked frequently, and Ellen Ripley or Laurie Strode (both fantastic in their franchises) aren't picked much because their defaults are boring + no cosmetics.
Gonna take a step and blame doves "diversity in gaming campaign", since then it feels like video game characters arent aloud to be to "attractive" or overly sensitive ppl on Twitter are going to cry up and down about realism or that nobody looks like that in real life
"I want diversity, but my way." It is one of the most discriminatory things you could do to a population. You don't make creative decisions for other groups of people.
The solution to the ugly characters in video games problem is to become your own game dev and make your own independent games, or support developers who don't uglify characters.
This is 100% what happened to Cere(?) in the Respawn SW Jedi games. Her concept art as several very nice looking versions, none of which have her with a man's face and buzzcut. And if that wasn't bad enough, they made her bald in the sequel.
I’m confused how did this happen with cere if she looks just like her model same with the rest of the cast? I don’t think this is the case with Jedi survivor games also concept art always look different than what comes out.
I can believe that Del Walker wholly believed that he was doing the right thing by representing his people as beautiful and attractive. The industry however is run by unwell individuals who think pixels and polygons are competition to real people, and that they are doing the right thing by making the pixels and polygons look ugly.
This is what a wise man once called "the unspoken negro code". We have enough people that don't care for black characters in fiction, it doesn't help that some our own are sabotaging us too. This is the reason I focus on creating my own comics and worlds, we can rely on these kinds of industry ppl or others to develop genuineness lovable black representation. Literally make visually appealing cool shit with some depth, all them other agendas kills art
I don't know all the specifics of this but I would argue that some of these designs could be the result of trying to tell a story through a character design such as emphasizing a grizzled warrior that has seen suffering in the world which can be emphasized through a more rough and rugged appearance instead of a focus on beauty and if the character is compelling then her being pretty doesn't mean much. There are a number of examples of pretty female characters in western games like the majority of the Overwatch female characters, Marvel Rivals female characters, Mortal Kombat, etc and I wouldn't say that a characters attractiveness illustrates a good character because even games like Tekken where they have attractive characters like Jozie, Katrina, and Lucky Chloe but aren't favored much due to their bland stories or personality traits that people find annoying while something like Ghost of Tsushima has female characters that don't fit the ideas of beauty like Yuna and Masako but they are still seen as great characters that have layers to them. Visual storytelling I would say means more than if a female character is attractive or not because many attractive female characters in games are forgotten but female characters that have likable personalities, good stories, and cool designs will keep someones attention for decades.
There are plenty of attractive characters that people talk about I could list them but I don’t make this comment long, and what storytelling are they going for here because a lot of the time it’s not about a suffering world it’s them just doing this a lot of the time because their checking boxes of things they want to push or don’t like, I have no problem if the setting and world is supposed to be a bleak one and they have the character looking as rugged but do some more research on this topic and you’ll see these people and companies aren’t doing this for the reason you think.
@@Skye2993 That's true that their are attractive characters that people talk about and is true that their are companies that design these characters for to emphasize a mindset but the many times characters are designed in a way to emphasize their personality, shape language and story such as Marisa from Street Fighter 6 where she has more masculine physic but that is due to her focus on power and her fighting style while it all ties into her personality and her view on strength and I many attractive characters are mostly talked about due to their personalities and stories such as 2B, Bayonetta, Chun Li, Ivy Valentine, Jun Kazama, Ada, etc but many attractive characters that only had their looks as a point of interest were quickly forgotten.
You're naming a lot of eastern games and studios that don't do this as severely as the west. They also don't have the layoffs that the west does.... But both regions like to have their cultures gagged and obedient, it just comes out in different ways. Kleptomaniacs and sociopaths rule the world for very logical reasons.
@@shoukaiser I don't know about that because Netherelm, Blizzard, and even the marvel games division that is working with Marvel Rivals are from the West and don't fall into people's perception of what the West is doing, I would argue that characters Naoe from Assassin's Creed Shadows, Black Cat, many female characters and NPCs from GTA 6, etc. I wouldn't say that the issues that I brought up for Tekken are present throughout the entire roster especially not the entirety of Eastern gaming but my main point was to show evidence of attractive characters not being what gives them value but their character and how much you can be invested in them.
@@kage1573 I thought you were saying before in your first comment that there weren’t any attractive characters that people talked about but seeing you list the ones you did, I know see you what you meant before I had misinterpreted, also don’t forget Lara Croft and Samus from Metroid to add to that list and Harley Quinn.
Just remember these same people would rather have a blue skinned alien instead of any brown skinned character. And he's right. All clack characters are ugly, and it's why I don't buy games anymore.
It's a lot more difficult but indie/solo dev is the way to go going forward. I be damned if i make my female characters (black white, etc) hot and have someone chnage them into gremlins. No thanks. Have fun with your fable mc.
What’s this fascination with making deadshot black? Will smith was the worst version. Also why do black women need to look like old stereotypical racist cartoons? It’s almost as if the dei crowd are the real racists
He said publicly bro. This is your assumption. It's pretty good but he is talking about putting himself in danger of public criticism and maybe losing his job. I don't think you understand. It's pretty obvious they are trying to push the pride initiative. 😮
You might just want to start buying games from the east instead. Games with character designs like Stellar Blade and The First Descendant prove they know what the audience wants
Don’t use this topic as an excuse or opportunity to push your personal convictions about a group, that is no more or less at fault than anyone else regarding this matter. Shame.
@@adercader1 far from an excuse it’s a fact. Name a place that they’re attached to that hasn’t been watered down and or changed for the worse based off of their insecurities and identity crisis and I’ll show you THOUSANDS.
@@luminatedgamingtv Stop with the nonsense. What you say is not a science, a rule or even a fact, “aLpHaBeT mAfIa” people exist in virtually every sector of society in almost every place in the world. From housing to administration, from the service industry to engineering etc. What you are doing is confirming your own biases, and for your own character’s sake, you should work on that.
@@adercader1 and how has it been since the social acceptance of said group? I can only guess you’re part of such group since there seems to be a lack of rational thinking cause it benefits you not to. I wish to never speak to you again.
@@luminatedgamingtv You do know games getting watered down could also apply to the people of the cross mafia as I like to call them. You know the people who say violent video games cause violence or Anime is satanic. Cuz dude it seems like you found a problem with them for a while because before all this gay people've been in stuff wasn't that bad I mean we're midnight or in Apollo from the authority Bad, Is Elton John Ben, Hey do you wanna get real old school a lot of gay people work on the original he-man cartoon and won the voice actors for the original meow back in the dub Pokémon was transgender.
While I don't always agree with you, I enjoy your videos. But, dude, be careful about repeating yourself. I've noticed in this one and other videos as well, you tend to fall into a cycle of saying the same thing over and over, making the same point again and again in the same video -- and not even changing the way you say it. It gets rather irritating to listen to.
5 minutes in, is KOF15 even mentioned? as far as I know Dolores was designed by japanese people, not black. The unrelated background gameplay doesn't help much to tell in the preview if she is mentioned neither
@@Oyi_14 do YOU know what the comment is about? "is KOF15(dolores) even mentioned in this video?" "she was designed by japanese that's why she is beautiful"
I don't mind if a developer or game doesn't have people of colour in it. Especially when it's abroad. That's their choice. Tekken historically represents everyone as well so its not a big deal.
@@MagcargoMan if it's the creators vision. Sometimes I'll watch an anime about a World Martial Arts tournament and they'll only have Japanese characters. If that's what the creator wants to do, that's up to them. If they wanna have it so they represent all nationalities in the tournament, that's also fine.
@@RealMikeHollow Yet if it were say, the other way around, the same tune wouldn't be sung by a lot of the culture wars channels and there'd be at least a dozen videos slamming it.
