Black Metal Without Distortion Is Just Surf Rock 

Yes, yes, yes

So you want to hear black metal.

@@slaythembeforeme yes. I would love to hear black metal covers of the beach boys and the ventures

@@mckeithenmccormick9642 so would I. That sounds amazing.

Finnish band Viikate mix melodic heavy metal with so-called Rautalanka which is a Finnish version of 60s surf rock. Try them out, for example the song 'Kurjat Kurjet'.

​@@jocm99No, he'd be mocking the people who think you have to wait thirty minutes after eating before going in the water.

Christ isn't a bad representation of the spirit.

​@@jocm99why because he live at the beach he can't believe in Christ ? Well goddamn 😂😂😂

Ah yes, the non racist timeline

@rabbitmane9265 no one gives a single fuck about being racist. It's not real anymore. RAAAYCISSSS

That is bs.

​@@donquique1hahahahahahaha

@@donquique1or this thing called joke, have you heard of it?

​@@ToastbrotRaverstraight up a lot of famous bands site the beach boys as an inspiration

​@@donquique1no, it's beach boys

I find that idea feels slightly contradictory, in a way, to his point that black metal songs are literally surfer music without distortion. But on the other hand, he basically made surfer rock covers of black metal songs, so like you said the video still is awesome in its own way

Yeah it's a little contradictory to his point, but enjoyable none the less​@@tytechnics9716

Yeah it helps solidify his point. Unless one cannot understand the guitar playing.. but anyone with decent working ears can tell.

Also seagulls at 1:37

@@ma5ticorei didnt even notice seagulls there, holy shit lmao

Imagine vikings surfing the Scandinavian cold waters

😂😂😂😂

@@joaofranco9751 that's why they be screaming

Underrated comment,@@floris812 xD

Now, after I read it...yes.

I remember reading about how surf rock was super popular when Mick Mars from Motley Crüe first learned to play guitar, and then as soon as he started getting good it became very unpopular and he had to learn new styles of play. It might have influenced his future heavy metal guitar playing style a lot 🤔

Golden Tiki in Vegas regularly has surf rockers play. It's amazing how gifted they are without suffering from carpal tunnel or messing up.

Kurt Cobain was certainly aware of it.

It's bridge between Rock 'n' Roll, Rockabilly - Pop Rock

ooh - check out The Surfrajettes 😁

Are there videos on RU-vid?

​​@@RBB8SFound The aquaholics - Freezin moon

Yes

Id like to hear the surf rock version of Burzum haha Cant even imagine

@t16205 There's a band called "The Burzums" and they do that exclusively. Burzum transfers over very well. I imagine the Bestial Black and War Metal bands wouldn't work that great.

I forget what it was called, but somebody DID make an entire album of this exact thing.

​@@EingefrorenesEisenya probably talking about norwegian reggaeton by nanowar of steel?

jeg faller is so fucking awesome in the surf rock style i would pay to hear it full

@@barb3006 Norwiegen reggaeton ... I am so checking that out

Wow... That's... That's a quite cool comment, not gonna lie.

tell me you've taken hella acid without telling me 🤣🤣 respect my guy ✊🏾

That's quite on the level - so, picture the following : Dunkelheit adapted to a BB's ballad with crazy harmony loops in between the two distinctive parts of the track. Sung by Bruce Johnston backed by Mike Love and Al Jardine, conducted by Brian and Varg. I can almost hear it from here...

Not black metal but Melvins does a fantastic cover of I Get Around called I Fuck Around haha

Yeah, what is it about black metal fans being so large?

I'm envious dude, I always wanted to see him when he was alive. Unfortunately for me whenever he did come to my part of the world (UK) the tickets were way more than I could afford. Though I can completely understand the price being so much, he was touring independently by this time (ie no backing or support from a label) and the expense of all the travel/accommodation and other tour expenses and despite his being an absolute legend, he was pretty much forgotten as far as the music industry was concerned. I wish I could have gone at least one time tho..

I got to see him at a Vans Warped Tour with Sublime when Brad was stil alive.

"I saw him at "the boardwalk" in Sacramento area in 2001!

@@douglasmatheson403 lived in Cali all my life, wish I saw that

Absolutely! One of the best shows I've seen. I saw him 2 or 3 times in small venues. It was real cool. For those that never saw him, it was easy to get a front row "seat" in standing room shows. He played so insanely loud that most people would back away from the stage. Of course you would be deaf for a day or two afterwards!! I can still here his blistering, drenched guitar tone in my head.

I find the beauty comes from the sublime clash between the moving melodies and the harshness and aggressiveness of presentation. The anguish/hatred pushes the beauty of BM's melodic sensibilities even further through the juxtaposition. While fun and interesting, I don't get any of the original's beauty from these experiments. Dedicated pop and rock does clean melody better; imo knowing the original music makes this clean version sound toothless and pointless! To each their own though. You'd probably enjoy The Botanist if you don't know 'em.

facts, very passionate, atmospheric and dramatic

and that's why Blackened Shoegaze/blackgaze exist

I like the distortion and growls but also the clean and the harmonies. And extra credit for all of it together.

Growls and Black Metal vocals can be extremely beautiful imo.

This also seems like something Tarantino would do in general. He’s synonymous for turning iconic songs on their head while having a COMPLETELY different meaning and sound to them

@@bronzin1445 What if it's not a movie but bi-monthly curated box of snacks

@@bronzin1445 Pulp fiction begins with Misirlou and ends with Surfrider. Dick Dale and (a cover of) the Ventures. Those two acts, that’s basically the bookends of surf instro. Oh and it’s perfect because it sets the tone and then reaffirms the tone of the movie. This movie is like a surf music record.

Why you say it like that 😂

for Robert Rodriguez movies with vampires and Danny Trejo

Seriously though!

Woah

no that's too powerful

Isn't one of the key aspects of power metal the use of major modes, though?

NOOOOOOOO

Exactly. The drum rhythm isnt The same

We need surf rock with metal drums!!!!

They always do

@@grantog123 Not exactly the same, but Blind Guardian recorded a cover of Surfin USA where the song gets more metal as it goes on, especially with the drums.

Wet Lungs.

sleep terror : El Insomne. instrumental surf rock fused with tech death

@@TheNaarcoleptik check out the song Bloom by Between the Buried and Me. Not quite what you described but it is essentially progressive metalcore surf rock lol

Pretty sure Ghost already did.

Ghost isn't black metal lmao

No. I am the night

uninentionally racist

@@xXZekrotXx It took me a minute to realize what you were talking about and I'm weeping in hysterics now XD

I believe the correct term is metalheads of colour.

I'm a metalhead and I feel so confused! How can something that sounds so badass and dark suddenly sound like a typical beach movie!?! 😆

I was about to comment this! I agree

Nice, thank you

Dude those guys are incredible! I totally agree!

awesome, first recommended band in this comment section that actually feels similar enough

also, gulag tunes

ok, but your description has to be in voice over by Werner Herzog.

Or it's the musical equivalent of Dead Island

@@UnYin99LOL!!!

Hahahaha! I’m in.

Check out "The Burzums" and "The Darkthrones"

​@@dayotobiusayou a hero

Just do it yourself, it's not hard to play this with spring reverb and light overdrive

Except do covers of songs I actually recognize. I thought I listened to a vide variety of everything but I couldn't ID tune in this video.

​@@Psythik you're saying that like we know the music you recognize, lol

Tony Iommi said it through : Without Hank Marvin of the Shadows his style wouldn't have been the same !! F.B.I. was the song clip that changed Sabbath history

Screaming Jay Hawkins?

Link Wray started the distortion sound but taking a pencil and poking holes though his amp. He was the link (pun intended) from surf to punk. Alsoz the only instrumental band from radio is 'Rumble'

@@el_spicerbeasto ?? The Shadows were on radio with the hit FBI ... in surf adjacent rock & roll ala Ventures

Blues guys like Wolf and Muddy were cranking tubes to distortion as part of the Chicago sound from the late 50s too. It was just that they didnt use a chugging rhythm guitar behind it to get it over as an itegral part of the sound.

Dick Dale Tribal Thunder

surf wax america fits the bill to an extent

Ghoul

Agent Orange

Listen to Anthrax's cover of the song "Pipeline", found on the "Attack of the Killer B's" album

That’s called The Munsters

You should listen to The Cramps

Reminds me of Ghost - Zombie Queen

Scooby doo music

The minors and diminished runs lend an air of uncertainty and peril that comes with surfing that makes it seem so appropriate.

Ya habibi! Why do I only about it now? Thanks...

Part of Hajj consists of throwing rocks at a wall that represents the Devil. That seems pretty metal to me! There are also some Arabic metal bands I believe

@@sylph8005 Which is pretty ironic because Black Metal is often synonymous with the devil...

@@madkhaliqfarhan Sure, but the way I see it, metal can be just as much about fighting the Devil as it can be worshipping him, as long as you make it as brutal as possible. Like Doom, you know? He fights demons, but it's in the goriest way possible in the most grotesque environments, and his slaying goes without a lick of holiness, as he doesn't use any sacred arts to fight the infernal and he kills angels too. I feel like that aesthetic and modus operandi can be applied to metal music and presentation too. I know they fight dragons and stuff in power metal at least. Not to mention there's the classic metal band Motley Crue, who have "Shout At the Devil"

@@sylph8005 not exactly metal but i have seen some arabian hardcore punk bands around. most of them are pretty political though.

@@farseer666 Man, lots of metal-heads don't like black metal.

​@@farseer666 And let me guess, Black Metal is the only real metal? What @MichaelHill-sg8ks said. lol

​@@MichaelHill-sg8ks I may not be a metalhead, but I like metal (heavy, thrash, power metal etc.) ...and I don't hate black metal, but i don't prefer them.

Need a band name? How about The Aluminum Waves?

it reminds me of some goth music. listen to midnight creature by lebanon hanover it has those surf rock drums

Can’t wait for an Iron Horse tribute 😊

There are bluegrass versions of Offspring songs?! I need to check these out immediately.

​@@avenger8957 It's in a series of cover albums called Pickin On The Offspring. If you're the right age it's peak nostalgia.

@@Karl_MarksmanDude, Picking On is so great. Their Metallica stuff actually made me enjoy the later Metallica albums

@@abnormalitiesinreality6649they make better music than some of the original songs they cover

Congratulations! You (re-)invented horror-surf.

That's a fantastic name for a band.

Weren’t you guys on a compilation with daikiju?

gotta save it for the stinky

Sounds like queens of stone age

It ties well with the horror movies from the 50s aesthetic

Sounds a lot like coffin wheels

There's a documentary called Metal Evolution. In one of the episode's the host talks a little about surf rock and its roots in the metal music. He also mentions how people living in the 60's meant that surf music had a little aggresive and somewhat sinister sound. Im not sure if Mayhem adapted tremolo picking because it was easy to play, or because of the aggresive sound. The only thing i know is that Mayhem were more artists and pioneers of a new movement, than they were great musicians. Correct me if im wrong.

Munster’s theme

Hawaiian hunger hahahaha XD

Blood Fire Surf is 🔥🏄🔥

Bathery - A Fine Day To Surf

De Mysteriis Dom Hawaianas

Sun of the Surfs Bane🤣🤦‍♂️freakn genius!!!

He was certainly an influence just can’t give him majority credit with so many others.

​@@maskcollector6949🤓

have to wonder who influenced him though

@@Chicanery_Artifice That would be Eastern European and West Asian folk traditions, Dale being the son of a Lebanese father and Polish-Belarusian mother. Misirlou, his most famous track, is a prime example, being a cover of a Greek/Ottoman folk song.

@@Existential_Tempest I remember that a version of Miserlou was performed at the closing ceremony of the Athens Olympics. The performance was definitely influenced by Dale's version, so it was almost as if the song came full circle.

The Dead Milkmen had many songs with a solid beach vibe like "Beach Party Vietnam" and "Blood Orgy of the Atomic Fern", etc. Most of the "Eat Your Paisley" album was basically punk surf.

This has nothing to do with your comment jjjjjjaa.

i have yet to meet a guitarist who isn't an absolute Beach Boys fanboy or fangirl. most listeners will say the Beatles were the most significant rock band in history, but actual rock/metal/punk musicians will usually point to the Beach Boys as the most significant. of course then you get iggy pop, who claims it was the Shaggs, and... well.. yanno...

You also catch it halfway through Viking Guitar's _Trail Dust and Turtle Wax._

Didn't Jello Biafra cite Dick Dale as a major inpiration for the DKs?

It sounds like post punk

Surf already sounds mysterious and dangerous, it’s the soundtrack to every dive bar in grind house movies.

@@fronkmanthey2399yeah that was the magic of "Holiday in Cambodia"

@@fronkmanthey2399 and also every 60s spy movie/TV show!

I feel like the chord progression is what’s doing it This sounds like a surfing Scoobie Doo villain theme or something

Man, I'm a big fan of Viikate since 2000s. IMHO, most of the Finnish-speaking bands (Verjnuarmu, Ruoska, Turmion Kätilöt, Kotiteollisuus, Kivimetsän Druidi etc.) are amazing.

Thank you for the tip👍🏼 sounds greate

thanks, it was terrible

thankyou !!!

@@jackthomas3842 I will. Thanks!

Search for Original trve kvlt surf music

I experienced a similar situation as I found out that Joey's drumming is Jazz based

@@mckay86 its almost like musicians will take techniques from any genre aslong as they work eh

there are a few puzzle pieces in play here, the one the video is mainly pointing out that the guitar riffs are very similar between surf rock and black metal. - the big thing a lot of non musicians seem to be missing here though is also the drums were changed as well. and its because of the change of the drums that your actually feeling the change in Genre.

Dracula surfing a wave with his SPF 150+ sunscreen on

si suenan a ese tema musical jajaja

You mean metal is surf rock. Surf rock came first.

@@Discrimination_is_not_a_right No. I do not mean that at all. I mean that Surf Rock is form of Metal. Metal was named by Sandy Perlman in 1966. It has existed since the creation of the world.

@@Discrimination_is_not_a_right Discrimination is a moral duty.

@@dashtheautoman Metal came out of London. Zeppelin created it. They're widely acknowledged as the first metal band. And surf rock started in the early sixties. BTW, if you think discrimination is a moral duty, you must be a republican.

Psychobilly

It kinda sounds like Agent Orange, minus the pure clean tone.

Daikaiju!

​@@thewerepyrekingthe band or the sodom song?

Maybe Castlebeat? He's a mixed bag, but definitely some surf rock inspiration.

Same with Transilvanyian Hunger

Yeah

Genius enough to get two of his alleged friends to hate him enough that both of them planned to murder him while one of them did. Fuck around and find out.

Varg Vikernes is not convinced

yea the song is good but i still despise that ego maniac manlet

damn your kid be hella educated knowing genres at that age

Surf Planet

And the vocals, the general attitude and message behind black metal.

Wish pointing out the obvious could be flagged 🙄

I bet you're a blast a parties.

@@divineape Salty

@@bakerboat4572 i get it. because the oceans

❤❤❤

Gotta ride those waves before Satan, bruh...

AHAB entered the chat.

It's neat how that influence informed the music with the minor and diminished runs that lend the feelings of uncertainty and peril which is so appropriate for surfing, and that is now the sound because if how well it fit along with the timing of the musicians. Like if Dick Dale never made his way to the West Coast would 'surf music' sound different?

@@foodank_atr817 Very good question.

The drums also have a little to do with it, in fact probably more so than the lack of distortion. i don't knwo these songs, but I assume they have super fast drums with blast beats.

@@JayTor2112 drums add so much depth, texture, and structure to the sound of the song. Really drives the music

Historically, Dick Dale, the famous surf guitarist, is probably the main inspiration for metal due to his right (or in his case left) hand technique and composition.

Yeah, now you can actually hear the melody!

@@joelwhite2361 Main inspiration for metal, for which subgenres exactly?

Holiday In Cambodia as Surf Rock would give me at least 10 years of my life back...

Fuck, I gotta listen to Dead Kennedys now.

@@rickydo6572 it's not everyone's cup of tea, but aside from the music you gotta pay attention to the lyrics. DK's songs are probably the smartest songs I've heard, you can tell that they were more than a punk band, they were very smart and aware on the events, politics and social environment of that era both in the US and in the rest of the world

@@alanmogliani6944 Yea, their lyrics were some of the best punk lyrics at the time and still today. Well, nowdays they're just a Shadow of their former selves without Jello Biafra.

@@rickydo6572 definitely. I wish they would have just split up and buried the DK name altogether. Keeping the name without the original formation made them fall in the rock and roll cliche of fighting over a name, over a song, over anything like a couple that just got divorced

I mean, being able to sound good either way and provide 2 different vibes by changing distortion and drumming is also a sign of brilliance haha. But I agree, Transylvanian Hunger is the only one that didn't lose any bleakness at all - a testament to how bleak it is even amongst some of the bleakest music out there

Freezing Moon stood unbreakable as well. Seagull noises had to be added for beach ambience, otherwise it would remain as dark as it gets.

I was gonna say, this just goes to show how good darkthrone was

​@@Tyler-zf2gjthe riff was horrible and it being simple and shitty does not make it "cold" or "pure"

Check out The Darkthrones - Californian Hunger lol. This thing is a whole genre.

Don't be a pussy. Listen to pure fucking satanic black metal.

You mean just surf rock

Definitely the coolest for me too

Check out RIPtide then. You know it’s the right song if it’s a skeleton on a surfboard.

right? now I want a band that only does songs like this

I think maybe it's that well written music sounds good no matter what effects you run them through. Just a hypothesis. Kinda want to make a ridiculous pedal chain now. For science.

@@peixe33 This is not a new idea. Search black metal surf rock and you'll find an albums worth of great classic black metal played in this vane.

Beato !

Cuz its kvlt

He's wearing shades though. Gotta be a wee bit of darkness 😎

Oh no! A wild Satanic proselytite appeared! Leviathan, who was cast into the sea and now rules it as the Devil of Envy, would like to have a word with you on the upcoming surfing competition...

Not 0% Satanists.... I'm here!

@@Saetun. Hail!

If somebody says they are a Satanist they are attention seekng retards. If you believed Satan existed then you definitely wouldn't choose to follow him. Grow up, you're so cringe.

It's called harmony.

@@CuriousPassenger Cool.

You play a diminished chord on a piano and it'll sound evil. Just compose with tritones and chromatic notes. It's not that hard.

@@Nightwalk444 Nobody ever said it was hard. He just did it at the right time, with the right knowledge, with the right equipment, with the right people. You know, like all pioneers in history.

@Hooga89 “Pioneer” is a bit much. Not much was new there, unless it’s genius to merely add distortion

try vampire beach babes

Try Messer Chups. You might like them.