@@seculair7564 It's funny how you're calling the original post retarded when your reply is retarded in every sense of the definition, and not relevant to the post at all.
Seculair Rape and killing ? dont blame being human for that, your argument is so stupid, killing and rapeing come from bad education, not human impulses, so the girl was right, it is hard to see somebody beeing judge for beeing human.
Maiva La Well you have a choice, if you want to keep your human status, dont go influence on others, if you want to be a robot controlled by others..by all means go be a influencer, in ang cases..i dont follow influencers.
"Sacharine tone of voice" :-)) Great, I never knew how to describe this kind of artificial always smiling attitude enforced in the customer services in the USA.
As a customer service worker myself, it really wasn't. She was acting entitled and holier-than-thou from the second the receptionist said her flight was canceled. The receptionist could have probably been nicer and more helpful but entitled people like that often won't soften up no matter what you do to try to help them. I think she kind of deserved all those bad ratings 😕
@@rosegoldhiips she already book the flight weeks in advance, and had her flights cancel for no reason. Its normal for her to be mad, the receptionist should have called to her supervisor to help Lacie getting a new flight, instead of being a big mouthed pos. You should know your place, your only job literally is to service customer, if you can't do that then quit before you piss another customer
@@rosegoldhiips Excuse me, but if you knew anything about working in hospitality, you'd know that a cancelled flight is a very serious issue and needs to be addressed, and it's the airline's responsibility to rectify said issue in the form of offering an alternative. You don't just reserve that option for elites. So in this situation, they really should have offered Lacie the seat on the next flight regardless of her rating as a means of compensation, or at least contacted her prior to the check-in time to let her know that there were problems so she could have sufficient time to make a backup plan. The attendant should've at least tried to help or refer Lacie to someone who could, but she did nothing, not even allow Lacie to speak to a manager (which Lacie had every reason and right to). So yeah, I don't blame Lacie for getting angry at this point (or as you see it; "entitled and holier-than-thou"). You'd do the same, I guarantee it!
Noslo I don’t know. I don’t know even if chubby is the correct word to say in this case. English is not my mother language. I prefer those arms she has to thin arms.
I liked the overall contrast between future technology and old fashioned cars and clothing. It makes me feel like you're watching Popular Science's take on what the future would look like to them during the 80s
It's an analogy. The soft pastel colors represent the idealistic world that has been created thanks to the ratings emulating a perfect society. If you see the other scenes, when she talked to the truck driver or in the jail, colors are not pastel anymore. It's because the vibrant gray colors represent the reality.
not really sarcasm. she was expressing her sympathy as her understatement while convincing her to accept it. she was like “I’m really sorry I know how badly that sucks for you but unfortunately I can’t help you
@@sultansaad1967it is very much sarcasm because she mimicked Lacie’s body language. Passive aggressive. And it’s not true that she couldn’t do anything. She could rate her 5 stars and ask two other employees to do the same easily. It’s airline’s fault after all.
@@someone8323 nevermind. I just thought she was telling her she understands her and apologizes for the inconvenience but she(Lacey) has no choice but to accept the futility of resolving this issue. if she could’ve helped her then Why didn’t she rate her up tho? I take it back, No sympathy from these people whatsoever
Astral Cosmos Celestial the Third Not a right, no. An absolute necessity. If people had some sense they would get more angry more often, for the right reasons, at the right time, with the right people. Aristotle. "Thumos".
bethany jedd technically this is mirroring our society of how people care way too much about their reputation and the status of how they’re looked upon. Also social media downvotes and up votes play a huge role as well.
I think there has to be a reason for the vote. If strangers start giving each other 5 stars, it could break the system for themselves and others : - Who rates you and who you rate has to be detailed on your profile, therefore you can be downgraded if you vote for someonewith a bad rate or who is even remotely related to someone who has a bad rate (since we sac earlier in the movie that those who dive in the rates are ditched by the ones with upper rates) - you can accidentally vote for someone who has completely opposite tastes as yours (even if there doesn't seem to be much room for differences of tastes in this universe anyway) and ruin the credibility of a social profile you have worked on all your life - and the simple fact that even if you explained why you did it, it's showing empathy, and it's made clear that empathy is tacitely forbidden in this universe, appearances matter more.
I loved this series, but this episode was very hard to watch. Especially at the reality of how quickly someone's life can completely accelerate in a downward slope. Also the fact that sympathy and empathy have been replaced with a very exclusive rating system. Doesn't matter who you are, if you have a bad rating you're SOL
A society like this would function very different from whats shown in this episode. There would be safety measures in place to stop one from having a low ranking so quickly and ruining their life in a day, otherwise everybody would be ruinijg their lives in a day. Maybe they would have ranking insurance etc. Also this system is very similar to religion in our world. Its fake and not real, but it keeps people behaving properly and being good (because they believe they will go to heaven which is not true there is no afterlife.).
TookALevelInBadass today? It’s always been like that, there are shit ton of museums dedicated to the witch hunts, Hell a while back the Christian church covered up a 3 decade pedophile because people blindly trusted them
Respect to Airport Security Guy in this scene. He straight up killed it with the whole “please remove yourself from the airport *immediately*” line, while grinning like that.
I don't understand why she couldn't have just stepped out for like 5 mins and helped some people with their luggage or something. She was a 4.18. It would have taken no time at all to boost her rating and then she'd be on the plane.
Or she could post some more pictures on social media to get her rating up. Theres lots of things she couldve done but the plot needed her to "nosedive"
It was all a blessing in disguise for her. She was so fake and wrapped up in material goals, she ended up being really rude to those who genuinely cared for her (her brother) while craving the approval of a fake school friend who had slept with her boyfriend behind her back. There are a lot of people depressingly like this, everything they do is centred around making a social media post.
@@Sponsi_PL Yes, she was fake. That's literally the plot of the ENTIRE episode is how she pretends to be something she's not the ENTIRE episode to get friends/scores/everyone to like her only to realize none of her so called friends actually cared about her. She was being fake, as was most others in the episode. Her brother was genuine (and had a low score for it) as was the truck driver. People with lower scores were the ones who were real people, whereas the high scoring people were fake.
Kayla N I think the ending was perfect. She didnt have to pretend for anyone anymore as she was aa low as she could be. She was finally free to shout whatever profanities she wished.
I understand your POV, but at the moment in the party when it all crumbled down, I was wanting that to be the moment that she unleashes on the friend about how she really felt about the system. She didn't show balls until jail...and for me I didn't care by then.
Kayla N She talks about the system's reality, shocks ALL of them. That's what the viewer (even me) is expecting, right? For me, it's cliché, and if really happened, none of them would care anyways, they just wanted 4,8+ rating. Well, I liked the ending, it jumped off the expectad, and transitioned well how the protagonist fell from "Oh hello give me 5 stars" to "Fuck the dumb system, Im out and free.". But again that's just my opinion, I think it's interessing talk about two point of views
This scene scares the life out of me... Image China's Social Credit System coming to play in the West? There be more homeless on the streets and turning the west into a third world shit hole because people will be be owned or turned into a NPC.
This episode probably hit the most close to home for me out of any black mirror episode. I think toxic positivity may very well be the most agonising aspect of my daily existence. I find the denial of the normal range of human emotion to make the general difficulty of life substantially more challenging to tolerate. It’s like stubbing my toe on something and being shamed for screaming out in pain over it, but multiplying that over every individual hardship life throws at me.
Wecome to reality! Thats how stupid people live today. Stupid likes and unlikes from social media! Stupid generations brainwashed by multibillion rich people.
I think in a society like that, nobody can argue against it. They expect you to just smile and cooperate, because y'know, need dem points. Pretty messed up
Votes on RU-vid will act the same way in the social credit system. Because it’s You in a test TUBE, being examined, judged, and censored by ghost banning so only the brainwashed will have a vote, and the majority opinion
I think this episode is a good example of how small mistakes or tiny mishaps can snowball and that even good people can fall from grace. To anyone whose had a really bad day that's escalated to a bad years it's probably relatable. This kind of culture doesn't seem very forgiving of imperfections and mistakes.
Honestly it's getting that way. I've had girls turn down dates after they saw my social media profiles and thought I didn't have "enough" social media followers and comments on my posts.
@@joeburreaux7953 lol where's the proof that that's the reason you were rejected? I HIGHLY doubt it. More like your social media showed non-catfish pictures of what you really look like and they didn't measure up to your curated dating profile pictures, OR they spotted some other red flag (no mutual friends so they didn't feel safe meeting up with you, lack of basic info to confirm age, job, etc). One of the two. Sorry bud but in real life people dont care as much about this shit. This isn't anywhere near a black mirror episode.
Crazy how an airline can just cancel her flight without notice or offering alternatives - and then just be like "I'm sorry. And also if you complaint then we'll downrank you"
MasterIrukaPlays If you think he's awesome, you're missing the point of the episode. the airport doesn't notify the women that the flight has been cancelled beforehand, and doesn't offer anything other than a sorry, go fuck yourself, in polite pretense when the customer's flight has been cancelled last minute. that lady is going to miss a wedding she is the maid of honor for. Not only this, but they won't give her a seat on another flight, even though in real life, this would be expected of the airport staff. The airport staff member is being unreasonably pretentious and hostile to the point in which the lady cannot keep up the act anymore and starts to get reasonably frustrated, but because everyone in this dystopian society is fake, her expression of frustration offends them and they rate her down for being honest. The security officer marks her down for intimidation and profanity, even though the flight attendant refused to allow the woman to speak to a supervisor. Which means she doesn't even have the correct rating to get home in a proper car. So basically in other words, the woman booked a flight and got scammed out of her flight. In real life, such disgraceful behavior from a company or a member of customer service would result in a lawsuit. But in this episode, because of the dystopian setting, bureaucracy prevails over pragmatism and shows that human beings in this society are too narcissistic and pretentious to help one another. Her flight could have been fixed, if rating was simply rounded up in emergency situations, but in this episode, people rate eachother down out of spite, and rate each other up for pretentious reasons. The security guard isn't awesome, he is a physical extension of the dystopian setting this episode was based on.
its coming. Agenda 2030 will bring Social Credit Score System (you don't want any Government mandated Flu shot? you will not be able to Fly) Cashless society and ID2020 is just a few of the goodies coming with Agenda 2030
I thought socialism was about getting rid of class society The exception is that in the Chinese system you're rated by the authorities, not ordinary citizens.
Man, Michaela Coel is an awesome actress. She’s so overly polite and uptight here, and you see her characters in Chewing Gum and I May Destroy You and they are so out there. She’s so talented. 😁
I love how people expect you to be polite even when they are screwing you over. The entire conversation becomes about you being impolite and nobody cares that you got screwed over.
Pretty much exactly how abuse and gaslighting works. The abuser just makes your life a hell and you're not allowed to question any of it. Otherwise you become "ungrateful" and "rude".
The way people in the queue are taking the authoritarians side and sneering at her, never able to see how they could be in her place one day. Two years ago I wouldn't have believed it. Now it's Feb 2022, post Covid and the way I have seen people treat others, even fellow family members, I certainly can believe it, in fact I would expect it. People worry about us ending up in some dystopian world without realising we are already in it.
Right, society went exactly back to they way it was but it's only now authoritarian because of "covid", and not like decades of rampant capitalism... When exactly are the vaccines supposed to kick in and start killing people again? I forget. You people genuinely can't handle being wrong and it's so funny 😂
“Due to your ranking....” ugh this is so relatable as a mortgage professional. I sound like a broken record always saying “due to your credit score...”
What I love about this episode is that all these seemingly terrible things that happen to the lead in such quick succession ultimately leads to her freedom from THE one terrible thing which is the rating system.
The scene was meant to have a hint of comedy to it with the flight attendant being so fake nice and smiling threatening security Guard. People are usually really nice or really rude, not this odd middle agro, so why are people in the comments so mad?
This is so scary tbh, its kinda happening right now. You are labeled as a bad person just for not walking around with a smile and being nice to everyone. How about we let people do what they want as long as it's not hurting others physically?
One thing concerns me. When Lacie is at the desk she is 4.183. When she swears the three people behind rank her down. However when security docks her one full ranking point she becomes 3.183. So it means that the three people did not have any effect. Any thoughts on this?
I know you posted this two months ago but I'd like to throw my two cents in. I'm curious that perhaps as a rating system there are probably different ranks of 'civilians' ranking? Businesses and authorities rating might weigh more then other people's?
I noticed that too. My only thought is that it was a mistake on the producers' part. Any downvote would at least knock it down a few hundredths of a point.
Stephen Banks lol this was posted ages ago but it kind of reminds of how police and security are in this world. They are automatically higher than everyone else with police brutality and the little punishments they get. Sentences are much higher for assaulting an officer compared to assaulting another person. It kinda reflects how much power they have.
That was the whole point for security though... I’m guessing in their world any physical/verbal aggression is highly frowned upon so they just hit you where it hurt - your status (for control)
Scary to think that this is happening right now due to all of people has a cellphone and connection in social. Media. We all have bad days and melt downs and cannot help but to outburst sometimes in public. Then someone just record us and post it to internet.
I agree, were all human after all. But some meltdowns truly do show ones heart, and some things people say are just too vile. BUT I don't think this system would ever work, this wouldn't make someone a better person
The irony is that all the RU-vid comments say how horrible this is to do to somebody and yet we are guilty of doing exactly this when we comment on a video showing somebody in a bad light, we don’t understand the context and whether that person is right or wrong their reaction no matter how strong has a whole string of context none of us no anything about. It takes a lot for me to reach boiling point but I certainly have had several of those moments in my life, I couldn’t imagine being judged and rated for those moments where I was simply being a human being dealing with hardship by displaying emotions.
Remember that controversy a few years ago when a woman was arguing with some black kids over a bike, and the internet piled on her, made her out to be a racist and a karen, she lost her job, and it actually turned out she paid for the bike and the black kids really were trying to steal her money?
@IAmTheStig32 Exactly, there are so many videos I see that have been shot and edited in a way to purposely put somebody in a bad light when it’s actually the one recording who is the perpetrator. You see it all the time with recordings of road rage or any video saying “see what this Karen tried to do” when often the women (even though she could’ve dealt with it better) likely had a very good reason to say something but of course idiots on the internet don’t have the capacity to think for themselves so they just pile on the abuse.
This episode is so close to my heart, the way it takes a dig at social media and standings is amusing and scary. I wish I could watch the episode for the first time all over again, it was an impeccable journey.
This reminds me back in early days in college: I was pretending to be something I am not, pretending to like things I actually hate, and when I failed a whole semester, I realized that didn't take me anywhere, I quit college, erased my Facebook friends and adopted a Tyler Durden personality. And things started to look better
Kyle Campbell Dude, this is so interesting. In in that kind of place right now and I just feel like quiting and launching myself to some crazy experiences for the sake of living.
Literally. The World Health Organization is trying to implement biometric I.D. and most countries signed off on it, if something isn't done every citizen will be tracked and monitored and this wouldn't be far off! 😱 Please share to family and friends close to you if you think they'll care, cause I for one do not like the idea! I'm sure you wouldn't either but it's not wide spread knowledge.
you know something funny since the flight attendant was actually allowed to down vote her during work hours if any of these people had any real empathy she could have helped her by giving her a five-star vote the minute they saw she was so close to getting a perfect score for the program so could the people have behind her instead of downvoting her before she got upset they could have helped her.
I don’t think it works like that. Ratings have to be in a certain context, with a certain meaning. Being rated by random customers she did not know would have been seen as sort of « illegal » because they had no justification for it, so it would be breaking the system. The ratings must be « earned » (even if it is by being fake).
Why would they help her? They see her as just a shrieking karen who is holding up *their* flights. Though to any sane outsider, the airport ruined her travel plans and she is perfectly justified in being angry at their frankly pathetic non-attempts to rectify the issue. The rating system promotes bullying behaviour and petty, self-absorbed attitudes in people.
I think she was doing that, because every interaction she made with other people, even if they were mean or she didn't like the service provided she ranked with five stars, she wanted to please everyone helping them reaching something she would like to hace and was expecting some kind respondes for that, some 5 Stars from them. Kind of egoistic and selfcentered, but The most human way if surviving that system
Peter Hotchkin Its different. Rating to a driver doesnt affect you like this scene that need you rating above 4.2 o you cant buy a tickey because the rating. Yes, we use rating but not like this scene.
The part where she’s like “I’ve called security” but there was no visible movement along with her passive aggressive tone is fucking hilarious man😂😂😂😂😂
She didn't ruin her life though. That's the point. All she wanted was a simple life of authenticity and a black man to share it with. She got both. Notice that the flight attendant says that her flight was delayed due to a customer incident on the other end. That was the black guy in detention at her destination city. They were meant to meet each other.
It just science-fiction but you can relate perfectly. You know, today we already have a generation so eager for "the like". And social networks (like YT) that ban you for stupid reasons just like an opinion that are not allowed by current political correctness.
In some ways this isn't really fantasy. I grew up being pressured to smile at all times and never show impatience. It left me very jaded as an adult. My grandfather was a pastor, and had to be upbeat with everyone, but when he got home he became very sour with his family.
The thing I loved about this episode was the ending with her and the random guy each in their own jail cells giving each other a piece of their minds until they collapse in laughter and relief. Demonstrating that only in prison could you be real and not have to worry about what you said ect ect.
Why didn't she just whip her phone out and rank-down the attendant immediately? The lady was asking for it but really got a 5.0 instead, that's infuriating.
The only thing wrong with this scene is that in the future baggage claim will be automated and there will be no human attendants only kiosks or maybe just an app-based interface
The scary part about this show is just how accurate some episodes are to real life. This one being the scariest and closest to what we're seeing now. I mean hell one country already has a social credit score and we basically have a faux one at this point.
