Some clarification for the video: (Cold War) It's not a real reboot, but I looped it in as 2019 was the start of a new wave for multiplayer which is where I considered CW's multiplayer to be a reboot, even when it's not storyline wise whatsoever. (MW2019) I know the game was getting a lot of flak before and at launch, it was only after everything settled down that I thought the game was being more well-received. After the release of more COD games did I think they were starting to just follow in the footsteps of MW2019, becoming very similar in feel. (WAW connection) Yes World at War ties into the Black Ops storyline and is made by the same developers, Treyarch. However, the Black Ops series is still separate and generally considered separate when looking at the multiplayers. I am aware of the story ties, this video was specifically targeted at multiplayer and no story connections. The original COD games could be tied in with Modern Warfare as well because of the connection with the Price family. (MW3) Also my wording got messed up talking about nukes and MOABs. The MOAB does not end the game, but does wipe the entire enemy team like the nuke, forgot to correct it in the editing process. Let me know your thoughts on everything about the video and whether you agree
Man the classic MW and BO games had so much more atmosphere than what we get these days. Everything feels so cleaned up now instead of battlefields. It's all so sterile.
There was something in the air when they made MW19. the game is just so smooth despite being slower paced. the way the guns feel, how you move and run. Lightning in a bottle.
too bad the maps, perk balance, weapon balance, spawns, and spec ops were all terrible. Biggest waste of potential because Infinity ward can’t take constructive feedback.
For the first month of the game free for all matches were ending at 14-16 kills with the 725 shotgun campers and the claymores. The balance was absolutely atrocious the first couple months.
Call of duty games used to have a distinct look and feel to them, not so much the case anymore since 2019 onward, only Cold War kinda felt not like modern warfare 2019. Infinity ward games had weapons that were sleek and slim, black ops bulky and rough.
Eh, both devs have gone up and down with weapon models looking bulky and slim tbh. Look at the AK47 for example, the Cod4 and Bo1 versions are slim and clean, the MW2 and MW3 versions and bulky and ugly. Then the ACR from MW2 to MW3 went from bulky to slim. It's hit and miss really. Also yeah the old games had a distinct feel and charm to them we don't get anymore cause every Cod now is on the same base engine, the only thing getting changed is mechanics which they hardly even do that aside from Bo6 with omnimovement, otherwise every Cod since 2019 except Cold War has been on the same exact engine, copy paste copy paste. That's why I kinda like Cold War, it's the only Cod since Bo4 to actually feel different and use a different engine. Something I wish Cod would keep doing and miss about years prior.
@@Nitroh- I would argue the problem isn't just the engine. But it's also the UI. Back then, multiplayer, singleplayer and side modes used to have very distinct UI. Now everything look so clean and standardize. And yeah Cold War rocks. The UI is very minimal to the point that it looks distinguish enough from other COD entries. UI is the only the easiest problem. Art direction, story direction and everything else must iterate as well. I feel like every COD nowadays only change the system but its look always stays consistently bland.
One of my favourite weapons in Black Ops, was the Enfield. Generally bad iron sights, heavy recoil and low mobility; but Jesus fucking Christ in the right circumstances I could dominate with that thing, and I know that saying that makes me sound like a total twat, but... Shut up. Nowadays it's all just a case whatever the game feels like you're allowed to use. I swear, it doesn't matter what I use. Whether it's my own setup, someone else's or however I play; the games feel like they purposefully stop you from getting the same performance as everyone else regardless of the class. Yet Xx_PussySniffer_xX (TTV) can come along, pick up whatever you've been using and suddenly it's a one-shot, cross-map meta weapon.
Cold War definitely felt more like Classic COD compared to all other MW2019 and on games, but yea they all feel much more similar now. Black Ops and MW original trilogy both felt and played different enough that it wasnt too fatiguing to get each game.
Very well said. Your reasons were the exact same as I have. Its a shame to see the Modern Warfare name become a joke in my opinion. Granted I am a Black Ops fan I still love the MW series.
Too bad trickshotting died because too many people felt pressured to make the most insane trickshots so they just started cheating, making everyone just regard any trickshot as cheating.
I think we see it as a competition of the two bc whenever there is two thing that are good at the same thing then we start to get picky on which one is the "real" best one. It was never a competition it was more of a library of of two different series in one company. It's like switching from your pokemon scarlet game to your violet game. They are both fun and have similarities but sometimes you just feeling one game instead of the other some days.
Last CoD i played was BO2, but I always had a bias for InfinityWard's iterations. The gunplay felt smoother and the net code was usually better (in my experience). But as you pointed out, the maps were more unique - it made every round of dom/search a little different.
Back in these days IW set the trend. COD4 dropped and treyarch followed its lead for WAW. MW2 dropped and BO1 followed it's lead but also corrected many of the major balancing issues MW2 had, although it did introduce some of its own. This only really changed once the original IW crew fell apart and their design philosophy changed, and then 3arc took the lead. Despite this pattern the games still had their own unique feel to them. All the modern cods feel the exact same
Bro 😂 most people only talk about modern warfare & black ops but most of us who played call of duty since cod 1 & 2 people don’t understand how great call of duty 3 & world at war was at the time and zombies in world at war was mind blowing. By the time cod 4 mw came out and mw2 and black ops it only got better till after bo2 everything became a shell of its time I do like ghost and love bo3 & Infinite warfare, bo4 was & is still good, but the latter part of games compared to cod3 and world at war which era would you right have?
The actual guns in BO1 were statistically speaking worse balanced than MW2... There is a very clear hierachy in BO1 while the meta MW2 guns are the best jack of all traits while several others were better specialized and gave it a more Rock-Paper-Scissors sandbox. Perks... Well... yeah, they were both not particularly great... but MW2 was kinda on meth...
The connection is there for sure, but it was the start of a new series and is too different to include here. Just like how the new era of Modern Warfare and Black Ops is crossing over in storylines, people don't connect the two as one singular series.
Seeing modern vs old CoD is so heartbreaking even as a relatively new player, I picked up my first FPS in 2017 and the first CoD (BO3) mid 2018, yet I can feel the nostalgia even though I haven't played any game pre-BO3 (except a few dozens hours on BO2)
The word you should be using for bo4 is “wasted potential”. The development of bo4 was hell and just wasn’t going well for it’s direction. The scrapped campaign based on the QA testers wasn’t fun. The MP was changing the core formula a bit too much and zombies got screwed over as well with unnecessary changes. I obviously should be bringing MP only, but honestly, i feel like the entire game is a mess.
i cant believe how hard the views on this channel fell off. like literally this channel is so great it needs to be more known nvm i just realized this video has so few views because it's new
good vid, agree with a lot said here. i really miss the identity and immersion of those early games. cod4/bo1 prob my favorite from that era. mw2019 was definitely of breath of fresh air in 2019...things were not looking good for cod mp back then but i personally loved wwii and bo4. but it's the catering to wz and stupid decisions by iw (which impacted the following games too) that drove me away from playing as much as i once did. mwiii definitely fixed a lot that i didn't like and bo6 i'm actually kinda excited for. they maybe clunky and frustrating at times but old is still gold and i occasionally go back to them.
What exactly is realistic about modern warfare? Getting shot and miraculously healing? Calling in a tactical nuke after a 50 kill streak? 360 no scope?
That's why I laugh at these new heads saying that CoD needs to go back to their old ways cuz cod's an arcade shooter. 😂 I laugh my ass off because cod wasn't really an arcade shooter until they started manipulating gunfights and trying to get everybody to engage in store/battle pass activities.
and maybe you say "well what are they supposed to do" to keep it fresh? maybe nothing. just leave the masterpiece alone instead of trying to capitalize off it.
I love you. Show me these old clips from Black ops videos it gives me a extalgia brings me back when I was a little kid thank you man. You're a true legend❤❤❤😊
In my opinion I believe black ops had the most best ever maps also kill streak is more easier to get then morden warfare maps because it's harder to get more kill streak on mw maps 😋
MW catered to snipers, those big maps helped line up enemies for snipers and rack up the kill streaks. Black Ops 1 catered much more overall for run'n'gun players, and most maps were conditioned so that you had ample opportunity to keep away from sniper cross hairs. Of course there was some wiggle room to mesh both play styles into both opposing games, but it was definitely harder to no scope etc on Black Ops, and harder to run'n'gun on MW2.
Great video man. Surely it’s even because we were young at that time, I was 15 in 2010 and I enjoyed the golden era of Cod with no worries and thinking only to have fun, I still love them and I have beautiful memories, Cod now could be fun, but with “less personality” than before, but probably old times will never come back even because we’re growing and changing as person.
In my opinion COD BO5CW and MW 2019 would be the last best/great of their series, MW 2 just didnt felt the same for some odd reason AND heard that story was bad and i saw clip for COD BO6 multiplayer and i didnt liked it TBH i sense that all these recent games are rushed.
MW2019 was the cod that brought back all the original cod players. I know because I was one of them. I didn’t touch cod from 2013 all the way until 2020 when I bought MW2019. It’s the goat and always will be. Your opinion does not matter.
@@navyvet05 Your opinion is the one that doesn't matter little bro. MW2019 is easily the worst CoD of all time in terms of 6v6 core MP and if it weren't for the game's animations and Warzone's release, people would have buried that game into the ground. It had easily the worst maps of any CoD before and after it, it had horrible weapon balance with guns like the 725 plaguing lobbies (especially at launch), low TTK so scrubs could camp corners and get free kills, extremely loud footsteps so anyone who dared to move around would be exposed to half the players on the map, a dysfunctional minimap, perma-Ghost so you could camp more effectively, insta-kill claymores, doors, the introduction of EOMM and more. So whether it "brought back all the original cod players" or not is completely irrelevant because that doesn't change the fact that it was a garbage game catering to the worst players of the franchise. If something like that drew you guys back in, congrats, you should be very aware where you belong. This game was dogshit outside of SnD and Gunfight.
@@LimdDrake The original comment made very valid points about the game and the dude comes up and basically tells him "I like the game, your opinion doesn't matter". The way I talked to him was very appropriate. And for your information, I am in fact an adult. Not that this would invalidate anything I wrote, but whatever.
everyone knows the real talent that made cod left after 2009, so everything after was just corpo bootleg yearly trash. feel bad for people raised on that shit, poor jo jo rabbits raised on trash thinking its good with nothing to compare it too.
This video is flawed because you instead compared series rather than the developers of those series. Even after the Infinity Ward split and Sledgehammer of MW3. The developers made MW3, to Ghost to Infinite Warfare a certain way. IW focused on fast time to kill, maps that aren’t three lanes, and their art style was more “realistic” compared to the “colorful” Treyarch games, especially post BO2. IW also focused more on gun fights, while Treyarch liked score streaks. This determined map design and game modes, for example the face off mode of MW3 and Black Ops games having more open space than IW games. For art style, just look at Terminal MW2 to MW3 or Favela MW2 to Ghost. Bright colors MW2 while the rest had monotone look. IW changed their art philosophy a lot, including keeping a theme among maps. MW3 was during WW3, so all the maps are destroyed. Ghost (especially vanilla maps) and I.W. keep a military setting, while in comparison, BO2 made maps in skate parks, Hollywood, paintball, etc. Ghost DLC addressed common complaints and they made maps more colorful and less military focused. I.W also had a space military “realistic” feel compared to the BO3 approach of making maps in diverse settings. These are some fundamental differences between the developers and how the developers change over time, either from within the studio or from community pushback. Consumers like the bright colors of Cod4, MW2, BO1-3, AW than WAW, MW3, Ghost, and I.W. The DLC of a game will tell you how the community originally received the game, Ghost is the perfect example. Instead of “military building” or something map, it’s now Micheal Meyers, Predator, Pirate, etc maps. TLDR: IW likes their military setting, fast time to kill, and experimental map designs, while Treyarch is more experimental with their setting, likes a fair time to kill, and likes a structured three lane map design. As someone who haven’t played COD since 2016, this is what I remember about the developers and game design. It’s not Black Ops compared to Modern Warfare, it’s InfinityWard compared to Treyarch.
@@krono5el that’s an important distinction to make and one I noted. It makes more sense to compare BO1-BO3 to MW3, Ghost, and IW honestly, and treat Cod4 and MW2 as the old Infinity Ward to their game’s developed after in comparison.
as someone who hundreds of days on black ops 1, i absolutely love black ops 3 and if it wasnt for nostalgia, i would consider it to be the best call of duty ever made.
MW3 & BO2 will always be peak for me. Both being topping the refinements of their respective series, with a great balance & unique styles & art direction which I think is also one of the main missing factors that make post-mw2019 feel so samey & generic.
There is no games today because games are supposed to be fun cod isn’t fun any more unless you are a very average player. They will milk you until the cod community says enough we want passion brought into our games once again.
Treyarch has ALWAYS been better than infinity ward. The reason MW2 was so chaotic and MW3 was so much more balanced is because IW had to check out what Treyarch was doing with BO1
the real cod devs that made cod, cod2, cod4, and mw2 left after 2009 and went to go make titanfall. no talent was left after 2009 and why all those cods after were so bootleg.
@@bryce34725 literally the only cod that got the whole classic community back even before covid. literally the best cod of all time beside cod4 and mw2.
All I'm going to say is when it comes to the minor in Call of Duty Cold War and Black Ops 6 definitely has the better movement Modern Warfare 19 is when I started to dislike how it felt other than war zone and then NW2 made it worse and then NW3 doesn't feel near as good as Black Ops 6 I'm going to NW3 cuz it's free on Game Pass it makes MW3 feel like a dog s*** f****** game it's like all you morons forget how fast people were able to move in the 2007 2009 and 2011 Modern Warfare including Black Ops 2010 in Black Ops 2 2012 and then once again Black Ops 3 have the best futuristic movement it made Sledge hammers Advanced Warfare feel slow and clunky and it made infinite warfare's jetbus feel slow and clunky compared to Black Ops 3 which had the best movement of the future shooting cons and then once again most people say the gameplay from Black Ops 4 was better than Vanguard and better than World War II
Something worth mentioning. fast TTK and more chaotic maps dosen't make a game "faster paced" typically faster paced refers to how fast you move around the map and how balanced and engaging gunfights are. fast paced dosen't mean being one framed fast paced means being able to run behind cover and turning on someone. I always see people call MW19 fast paced despite having some of the slowest base movement speed, worst overall map design that ENCOURAGES camping, and incredibly fast TTK, this does NOT increase the pace of the game it decreases it you're encouraged to slow down, not run into a building because you can die quicker. I'd argue black ops 4 and cold war and 3 are the fastest paced COD's to date because you can easily traverse the map if you're at all competent and understand how to manage heals, how well you know the map layout and those kinds of factors. fast ttk =/= fast paced.
While yes it isn't a reboot or considered that, I loop it in there as 2019 was the start of a new era for the multiplayer side of COD. If we were talking storylines with campaign/zombies then I wouldn't have considered it a reboot.
Nice and informative video, I agree with most of it. I think that tech has come so far that everything is incredibly smooth now, which makes it less enjoyable to play. The loopholes in the games and the overall feeling of playing is just completely different now
… Call of duty has ALWAYS been the same = Play for a few minutes and you end up quitting… or try for hours and days THEN end up quitting. It’s a frustrating game because meta and spawns are BS. Followed up by how fast people’s reaction speed are. Yet, people who have 9 to 5 jobs and 1-2 hrs a day to play a game = That’s 10-30 matches worth over a Battlefield mode where you can finish 1 match in 2 hrs.
Black ops 2 is still my favorite cod. Mw2019 i still love (its what got me back into cod / gaming a tiny bit and i built my pc to play mw2019 campaign on mac settings lol). Bo3 is the cod that made me quit gaming for a few years, i played it so much but that game made me the most rage induced ive ever been while gaming. It was addicting but frustrating and it incentiviced very sweaty gameplay. I hated the departure from BO2s casual fun feeling. I didnt really touch any videogames after bo3 until early 2020 during my first / second year of college. Recently i bought cold war on sale and ive been enjoying it a lot for the most part (other than there not being a LOT of players currently since it isnt the main COD). Im excited by what ive seen coming for black ops 6 and it may be the first COD game i get near release in more than a decade.
black ops actually started back in 2008 with WaW. Black ops is a sequal because of the campaign tie in, and also the continuation of the zombies story, with also the game taking place in the 60s and 70s after the events of WaW in the 1940s
Plus black ops just has so much more personality and longevity going for it, with stuff like zombies, which is essentially keeping games like bo1, 2 and 3 still alive. Mw doesn't have any of that.
BO4 Is the last COD that I actually truly enjoyed playing, WW2’s second half was amazing imo as well, too bad launch and the first half of the game was tragic lol
Censorship in COD ruined it, and people are still mad at why the game is the same or worse than ever. Its the voice chat. Remove censorship and everyone will have fun again.
I disagree completely on the “rough time period” or worst era for cod. I do not think it was the jet pack era, and thus supply drops. I got every item in Bo3 for free, as if you completed the events you would get weapon bribes for free. Same with mwr, and their supply drop system was a vast improvement letting players use salvage to buy stuff outright. Didn’t spend a dime on supply drops on either. In today’s era, games are riddled with Sbmm, and most of us on here feel that’s a bad thing. That aside, all the items in the shop are expensive, with no other way to unlock them. There’s nothing to grind for anymore other than the mastery camo. It depletes the game of stuff to do, and it really sucks
IW titles always have much better game sync which for me is the most important part of the game. Why would I play if my gunfights were like a coin flip? Treyarch games unfortunately suffer in this regard... hell the bops disconnect icon is a meme that's how often it occurred
