Black Swan / Odile Variation - Zakharova, Osipova, Nunez 

I you only knew what a joy it is to be able to watch such wonderful dancers on RU-vid, in the middle of the night, even. When I was younger, I was fortunate to see Baryshnikov and before that Nureyev. We don't get as many of the great European Ballets down here in Australia, although we have given the world some brilliant dancers of our own 😀❤

@Rodney Langston Just curious, but why?

Thank you for your beautiful posts!

Thank you for the videos! I will subscribe.🤩😍

Increibles aberturas y precisión de mivimientos. Bellísimo !!!

her in la bayadere it's like you never want to stop watching

Definitely. She is perfection

Absolutely. I see her as Giselle, it was perfect and she makes her role alive

Yes, her soul is dancing, not only physical body.

Totally agree. Stunning performance.

Osipova’s black swan is a joke

I like that you found the individual characteristics that each brought to playing/dancing this part. What a kind, positive comment. So rare on the internet.

Zahkarova was heavy on the stage floor. You should never be able to hear the steps hitting the floor. That’s a huge no no.

I agree I think I prefer zahkarova for that exact reason it fit the character better.

У Захаровой техническое совершенство и лучшие шпагаты.

Да Руки!

Yes Calypso dream and it was Baryshnikov who picked her beside her other qualities for her arms and hands.

I completely agree

Love her arms but Nina Ananiashvili had the most magical ever IMHO.

@@Christina4758 Let's not forget Ulyana Lopatkina and by all means, Eva Evdokimova.

Some of those extensions she does that twists her torso out of alignment are just awful.

W Deng : perfection no : Zakha is too big for a true teenager as the young Giselle also Aurora ; her excessives extensions more than 180 are not esthetic ( also Sylvie Guillem ) : all RU-vidrs millions and millions write the same thing it's tiresome. .

Absolutely!)

@@alainspiteri502 -- Oh, my! Another "expert"...! Want to see you do it.

@@micky4fun yes , before play Toccata op-92 of Czerny

@@alainspiteri502 Don´t waste your time reading what is for you boring!

Might have flipped Zahkarova and Nunez, but damn straight. No one fucks with the Odile.

@@Sshadowkate yeah, agree. Zahkarova clearly invoked a more sinister presence.

😂😂😂

that's why women should cover up. attention should be earned!

@@captainkielbasa5471 wtf?

I usually yawn while watching Zakharova as I personally think her dancing is reminiscent of a hypermobile' "perfectly technically programmed" robot. But her black swan is truly something else, extremely intriguing to watch her in this role.

@@hejhej4441 not agreed at all, I don't think she is robot because I think no ballerina should be called like that. I prefer to say her technicality is quite strict :) She is an amazing ballerina probably one of the best of our era. Her extentions and technic is unique... All ballerinas are different and beautiful. Btw you are right, she is at her top in this role.

@@beatrixkiddo1279 I know that she is famous for a reason and I know why many people don't agree with me. This was just my personal blunt opinion. Of course, dancers should strive to have as perfect technique they can but personally I care very little for "perfection" in that aspect as long as it looks good and fits the role. I like to think of ballet as an athletically demanding artform first and a sport second. I personally find it quite tiresome to see how this generation of dancers dancers are taught to strive after being able to get their foot to their ear (even if it isn't on time with the music) and to have their legs shaped like an "s" because they strive towards those hyperextensions and banana feet. I'd much rather see a dancers who sacrifice a little technique for artistry, acting and expression both through their face and body, that is what I think makes a prima ballerina stand out from the others. But I understand why technical perfectionism appealing to some, to each their own.

@@hejhej4441 I put my signature under every sentence you say. I also think like you. None of my favorite dancers throughout history have had huge extentions. Asslymuratova, Nureyev, Makarova, Plisetskaya ... (except Sylvie Guillem). For example: Assylmuratova's Nikiya's Death. None has ever been able to present it as well as Altnai. No extention as big as today's ballerinas, but the lines are very clear. Emotions are unique. Extention also comes from just there.. She is the only one. The ability to give the sense of art to the other party is only heartfelt, not the leg extention. Also, just because someone has a large extention does not mean they cannot give emotion. For example Sylvie Guillem. Art perception is based on where a person looks at it. Two issues are a bit tricky. You seem to be diverting the subject a little. :)

@@beatrixkiddo1279 I agree with you. I am also a fan of some ballerinas with high extensions that are very capable of translating their technique into artistry to fit their character, like Sylvie Guillem, so they can definitely coexist. I think that the reason as to why I don't enjoy Zakharova in most roles is because I personally don't feel her, even though I'm being blunt and expressing my personal thoughts. Where I come from we also tend to be very blunt with how we feel about something/someone even if it sounds rude (things like cursewords and insults are also taken way lore lightly than in other cultures, it's even fine for teachers to use them as long as their students have passed a certain age) not that it is an excuse. But just so that you understand that my sole intent isn't to undermine anyone as a dancer, but just to express myself in a way that people around me have expressed themselves since childhood) that pass through my head when watching her, I am not saying that she is an objectively bad dancer. We all have our subjective opinions and this is just mine. But overall I agree with you and I'm glad that you understand where I'm coming from. And yeah, I am diverting the subject haha. I guess this discussion wasn't what you signed up for when you wrote your original comment. But it was still interesting to hear what you had to say (or write).

Technically flawless but I don’t think she portrayed the character as well as Osipova

Bbbbooooooriiiiing

JUST LIKE SYLVIE G!!!

While I normally love Marienela there were a few instances where I felt she just didn't complete a move. Like she was on to the next thing before complete extension. I'm probably not expressing that very well.

Condivido pienamente

🤝🤝🤝

I agree with you. In that aspect Osipova is amazing, she's my all time favourite dancer. But in this role I prefer Evgenia Obraztsova since she has the most unique and multi-dimensional (if that's the right word) interpretation of Odile. I don't enjoy her Odette a lot, but I like how she plays Odile as this character who isn't just pure evil, but evil at the commands of her father whom she is still dependent on. Her acting is astounding in that role and the way she uses the music for dramatic expression also just that.

Да! Осипова очень характерная, артистичная и особо шармантная! В ней, кроме техники есть душа. Душа образа и танца. Но, безусловно, великолепны все! Браво!

@@hejhej4441 I just saw a video of Eugenia Obraztsova, and you’re right, she’s fantastic...

@@hejhej4441 Well, Evgenia Obraztsova who's, of course, a wonderful dancer, is performing in the Bourmeister version of Swan Lake... very different ballet with different music (for this act), totally different choreography and a different vibe. I like that version but it's completely different from what Osipova is dancing. Who says Odile is Rothbart's daughter? She's this supernatural creature he's brought to the palace and, yes, I think she's totally evil, there to humiliate the prince and his parents. There is no nice aspect of her. I do like how Obraztsova is almost at times like a dancing doll, but I kind of think she loses it in the middle of the PDD and, for me, Osipova gives a much more focused performance. Different strokes for...

@@kabardinka1 I’m aware that she’s dancing a very different version. I was just speaking of the role of Odile in general and not this variation specifically. I’m not saying that Odile is Rothbarts daughter, I’m just saying that it is the vibe that Evgenia is giving me (a daddy’s girl who’s been told to be evil and seductive help her summoner and his evil plans) and commend her on such a unique interpretation. Wheter you want Odile to be multi-dimensional or pure evil is simply a matter of preferences. That is why different interpretations and different dancers exist and I still think Osipova is wonderful in this role.

Her swift head movements and tge way she felt the music. Osipova' s turns are amazing as always. With all my respect to zaharova, I don't find her captivating and fluid.

Marianela es maravillosa

Also, beautiful and smoothly executed extensions.

@@LanaW123 нуньес хороша в боях без правил а для балета она деревяшка вот если бы ей роль буратино то она лучшая

Nunez makes me yawn. Svetlana actually looks like a prima ballerina Assoluta! Her lines, extensions, legs, Divine arms and hands I mean she is like an angel and fairy wrapped up in one and perfectly personifies the black and the white swan. Comparison, Nunez looks like a clumsy linebacker. She has good technique, but it's not astonishing is the problem

@bergercookie 👏👏👏

You described it perfectly! 💥

Осипова грациознее

@@barchinbarchin9903 и артистичнее Захаровой.

Захарова высокого роста,а значит тяжёлая.

👎💪

Nunez is kind of hyper, uneasy! There are moments she looks like “fast forwarded” on the video! I have noticed same thing with Gillian Murphy! They dance like they are on cocaine or sort of! The other two are so smooth and fluid! But my vote goes to Osipova!

It's because she s t r e t c h e s the phrases; everything is unpredictable.

You are right. She is the most aligned, placed, and timed. Hyperextension does not mesmerize me.

@@RS-rz9xj agreed!!

Осипова ниразу, не лебедь, Захарова - сама элегантность,...

И не надо больше такого лебедя, на куропатку больше похоже...

@@dogtalk_7775 да, читала, читала комментарии... Наконец, ваш коммент совпадает с моим мнением.

@@user-mr2xc8hf4g Полностью поддерживаю

@@user-mr2xc8hf4g девочки, я с вами

Эй натащья джиги джиги

I preferred her too ... and like you I don't understand anything but I like ballet. Nuñez has a fluidity that hit me a lot ... mesmerizing and powerfull!!!

This!

@@fioredm1143 Fluidity was my thought about Nunez also

Don't figure skaters also learn dome ballet?

Agree! Each moment held and executed perfectly.

I agree.

Да

У нее очень красивые линии

Тоже она больше всех понравилась!

Ага, ворона.

У Захаровой совершенно нет артистического таланта, везде одинаковая - гимнастка в балетной пачке и всегда с одним и тем же выражением лица. Скучная и самовлюблённая!

I was yawning during her performance lol. I couldn’t even finish it because I was so bored

I can barely watch her performance it's boring. Svetlana is the black and white swan.

​@@NEnigma777completely agree with you. I have no idea how people can even compare Nunez to Svetlana or even Osipova. Svetlana is the black and the white swan she looks like a magical fairy Angel ballerina. Simply Divine The Best of the Best of the best

И самые длинные

У Захаровой руки лучше,красивее. У Лопаткиноц через чур уж длинные,непропорционально.

Инна, а вы видели руки Плисецкой?????? Умирающего лебедя посмотрите в ее исполнении!!!!!!!!

@@user-ii5sd9pt8g В Плисецкой много экспрессии, в Лопаткиной есть всё, она чудо!

@@helibergen9985 зато какие "мягкие"

А мне больше всего Захарова понравилась.

Гимнастка отличная!

@@janaselle8063 она не гимнастка,она балерина!А вы профан!🤣🤣🤣

@@user-bz1ny7yf7e 🤣🤣🤣

Осипова прекрасней всех

Скучная эта Захарова, машет длинющими ручищами и выражение лица без всякого выражения, техника отличная, так гимнастки работают, а для балерины этого мало...

​@@Aft296это вы Волочкову в молодости описали 😂 Захарова все же осмысленно танцует

​@@Aft296 Почти везде коза длинноногая. Здесь хороша

Для меня тоже Захарова лучшая..

Очень точно подметили - каждая вносит свое, они прекрасны, глаз не оторвать... Спасибо автору - есть возможность увидеть многогранность образа Одили ( у нас в Одессе был радиоканал Гармония мира - и час классической музыки - вечером, после работы, слушала на кухне рассказ о либретто Лебединое озеро - и плакала... Удивительная история, а музыка Чайковского - это как бесконечность Вселенной....)

Да ну, последняя тумбоподобна, не гнется. И кушать надо меньше

Нуньез технична, но тяжеловата и старовата ! Нет легкости в танце как у Осиповой , и пластичности как у Захаровой ! Не русская балерина, не русская школа!

@@user-jc4sn7up3q,русская школа у Захаровой? Захарова перевелась на последний курс АРБ...до этого училась в Киеве

@@user-gw1qw1nj3z Но ведь в Киеве изначально преподавали ученики Вагановой, а она символ русской школы балета

like light whipped cream has the consistency of butter

У Нуньес не та школа, это очень видно, сразу бросается в глаза. Нет такой отточенности поз, хотя очень технична, но где- то не так руки, стопы чуть-чуть. Захарова идеальна, а удлиненные линии тела перетекают друг в друга, очень красивые, лебедь . Она и Лопаткина для меня идеальные балерины.

Same here

Agreed.

Право Чудо! :D

I love your observation, and you put it perfectly.

d j. Absolutely agree!!!

Each dancer displays her unique talents beautifully. Svetlana uses her lovely hands and arms to manipulate the Prince. Her technique is also amazing. Osipova uses her power to convey a strong black swan, while Nela displays great attention to detail and wonderful musicality. Each has her own gifts to give an adoring audience. Great video and much thanks, C 💝💝💝

Yes, she use her sensuality and great technical skills to perfection. 💝

Svetlana, always Svetlana! For me, always the best.

@@cynthiafletcher9845 really true 👌👌👌

@@arwaelhendy6426 Thank you for your reply. I agree with your comments. Svetlana always delivers a memorable performance. C💝

Да, и мне показалось, что роль проживает только она.

Легче и выразительнее остальных

смотрела бы бесконечно. .. великолепна. .

У Осиповой очень отточенная техника, она филигранна. Но Захарова мне понравилась больше здесь.

@@user-dq5qg8pe5v Для меня в Осиповой главное даже не ее феноменальная техника, а глубокий драматический талант. Это то , что в первую очередь отличало таких гениальных балерин, как, например, Плисецкая и Уланова .

@@user-qc5rw7ut3m Ну только с Плисецкой не сравнивайте пожалуйста. Плисецкой нет подобных!

As always

szme answer that William deng

Захарова,лучший лебедь!

@@user-fb9bx9du2y Лучший Белый лебедь, а Черный только Наталья.

@@user-fb9bx9du2y лучший лебедь- Лопаткина!

Лучший лебедь Плисецкая!!!

Неплохо.короткие кривоватые ножульки.индоуточка-плясунья

Нет, Осипова не так сложена, как Захарова и как раз эстетическое впечатление теряется.

да мне кажется, она везде лучшая

​@@messirvoland9244 Нет.

To me she seems a bit like she has no strength. Idk if you are a professional ballet dancer but her technique is good but not on osipovas or nunezs level. And that she operated her feet makes it seem fake and that is not REAL beauty to me. Just saying

She's beyond text-book perfect!

@@cris7730 I don't think so

@@chaali9961 Thanks so much for that update, Joel. Your personal opinion is not relevant at all. People just have different tastes.

@@cris7730 who asked you?

Thank you 🥰

Having watched Osipova in several ballets; I find her interpretation is mostly the same; she also has a fast virtuousity; which is not the same thing as interpreting and emoting different characters, and drawing the audience into the story. Svetlana and are both Nela are great actors, and very compelling.